Polystyrene Coving ,,,
Arfa Daily
bought some to finish off her bathroom (which mercifully, is now finished
:-) ) but she needed six internal angle pieces. Being the cheapskate that
she is, she only bought one packet of four, trusting that I would just be
able cut the corner angle on the other two. A bit of an experiment on some
low density stuff like this, showed that no matter how sharp the cutting
tool, it was very hard to get a nice cut finish. So I made a hot wire cutter
to do the job, and the finish was perfect, but if you don't have the
knowledge and bits in the junkbox to knock such a thing up, what else would
you use ?
Arfa
Hamish Shufflebotham
"Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Proper plaster coving you can easily cut with a saw?
Kevin
never tried but I would have thought a sharp knife
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Andy Dingley
> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ?
Just snap it by hand until it fits in the bin, then get some decent
plaster stuff.
Arfa Daily
"Kevin" <donte...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, there's always one ...
> never tried but I would have thought a sharp knife
>
> --
> Kevin R
> Reply address works
I tried a sharp craft knife, and it's ok until you get a little way in, then
it sort of stops cutting. hard to describe.
Arfa
Arfa Daily
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Ah. Always TWO then ... Planks ...
Arfa
stuart noble
I've always cut it with an old handsaw, the coarser the better
405 TD Estate
dennis@home
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> I tried a sharp craft knife, and it's ok until you get a little way in,
> then it sort of stops cutting. hard to describe.
I use a a 10" cooks knife, the damn thing is sharp enough to cut glass fibre
insulation without "sawing".
If the wife finds out she may not like it. 8-)
Alang
A sharp knife. You're going to have to use a filler of some kind on
the joint anyway before painting.
Kevin
> "Kevin" <donte...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:3i4Ik.7571$Zs7....@newsfe29.ams2...
>> Hamish Shufflebotham wrote:
>>> "Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0M3Ik.2677$Zl2....@newsfe01.ams2...
>>>> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ? My
>>>> daughter bought some to finish off her bathroom (which mercifully, is
>>>> now finished :-) ) but she needed six internal angle pieces. Being the
>>>> cheapskate that she is, she only bought one packet of four, trusting
>>>> that I would just be able cut the corner angle on the other two. A bit
>>>> of an experiment on some low density stuff like this, showed that no
>>>> matter how sharp the cutting tool, it was very hard to get a nice cut
>>>> finish. So I made a hot wire cutter to do the job, and the finish was
>>>> perfect, but if you don't have the knowledge and bits in the junkbox to
>>>> knock such a thing up, what else would you use ?
>>>>
>>>> Arfa
>>> Proper plaster coving you can easily cut with a saw?
>> well that was helpful
>
> Yeah, there's always one ...
>
Steve Walker
fine handsaw, and wipe some filler into the join where needed (it will be).
I've used paper-covered polystyrene coving and it looks fine when it's
decorated.
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George
You need a knife(Modellers) with a round edge rather than a flat
blade(Stanley) for polystyrene.
Do people still buy that sh*ite?
Plaster type coving is quite cheap compared to the polystyrene rubbish.
Dave Plowman (News)
I wouldn't use it at all. Apart from the problems it can cause in a fire
(poisonous fumes) it always looks what it is even after painting. It's not
as though the plaster stuff costs much more.
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OG
"405 TD Estate" <men...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> How did you make the hot wire saw - I've got some to cut as well...
>
My uncle spent a long weekend experimenting with my dad in developing a
hot-wire saw using his car battery as a 12v source.
He then drove home.
He was on the phone to mum & dad to say that he had just got home safely
when he was quoted as saying "Ah, I've got to go now, the car has just burst
into flames".
Kevin
damaged the battery?
Lobster
> I tried a sharp craft knife, and it's ok until you get a little way in, then
> it sort of stops cutting. hard to describe.
I know what you mean; doesn't the fact that you get a clean leading (ie
visible) edge mean that's OK though?
David
Alang
wrote:
Polystyrene can be put up with wallpaper paste very quickly. Once the
joints are filled and the whole lot painted you cannot tell the
difference. And much easier to remove when the female of the house
decides a change of decor is needed
Dave Plowman (News)
Alang <inv...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> Polystyrene can be put up with wallpaper paste very quickly. Once the
> joints are filled and the whole lot painted you cannot tell the
> difference.
I think you can - the texture still shows through. Although the paper
covered stuff may sort that. Also the fact that it bends to fit is often a
giveaway.
> And much easier to remove when the female of the house
> decides a change of decor is needed
I tend to think of coving as a fixture rather than a wallpaper.
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George
"Alang" <inv...@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
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You can,you never seen peoples thumb&finger indents on it?
And much easier to remove when the female of the house
> decides a change of decor is needed
Id like to think coving was staying as a feature
Alang
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <ruj3f4lnaddg9s2il...@4ax.com>,
> Alang <inv...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
>> Polystyrene can be put up with wallpaper paste very quickly. Once the
>> joints are filled and the whole lot painted you cannot tell the
>> difference.
>
>I think you can - the texture still shows through. Although the paper
>covered stuff may sort that.
I've only used it in one house. S couple of coats of emulsion hid the
texture.
> Also the fact that it bends to fit is often a
>giveaway.
That's why you need to glue it straight and fill the gaps
>
>
>> And much easier to remove when the female of the house
>> decides a change of decor is needed
>
>I tend to think of coving as a fixture rather than a wallpaper.
Only plaster.
I have plaster coving in one room and a polystyrene centre rose. Can't
really tell the difference unless you are 8 foot tall
Alang
wrote:
Not on any I've put up
>
> And much easier to remove when the female of the house
>> decides a change of decor is needed
>
>Id like to think coving was staying as a feature
>
Why do you think so much was ripped out in the 60s?
George
>>
> Why do you think so much was ripped out in the 60s?
Because the builders who ripped them out were numbskulls,take my CH heating
installers for instance...they were going to chase out the fancy victorian
coving in one corner by the gas cupboard not to mention the hall coving as
well, there would have been murder if they had done that and its a good job
I asked where the pipes were going to be positioned before the work
started..
A room looks bare and depressing without some sort of decorative features
Arfa Daily
> Arfa Daily wrote:
>> "Kevin" <donte...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:3i4Ik.7571$Zs7....@newsfe29.ams2...
>>> Hamish Shufflebotham wrote:
>>>> "Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:0M3Ik.2677$Zl2....@newsfe01.ams2...
>>>>> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ? My
>>>>> daughter bought some to finish off her bathroom (which mercifully, is
>>>>> now finished :-) ) but she needed six internal angle pieces. Being
>>>>> the cheapskate that she is, she only bought one packet of four,
>>>>> trusting that I would just be able cut the corner angle on the other
>>>>> two. A bit of an experiment on some low density stuff like this,
>>>>> showed that no matter how sharp the cutting tool, it was very hard to
>>>>> get a nice cut finish. So I made a hot wire cutter to do the job, and
>>>>> the finish was perfect, but if you don't have the knowledge and bits
>>>>> in the junkbox to knock such a thing up, what else would you use ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Arfa
>>>> Proper plaster coving you can easily cut with a saw?
>>> well that was helpful
>>
>> Yeah, there's always one ...
>>
> and your it :-)
That would be "you're" then ...
Grow up, sonny.
Arfa
Arfa Daily
"George" <lo...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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It seems to me that none of the people who are making the negative comments,
have a daughter who has just moved into her first house, and is struggling
to make ends meet. The polystyrene stuff, whilst not being the one of choice
for most of us more discerning types, is cheap, easy to fix - especially in
a bathroom with tiles right up to the ceiling - and suited her just fine.
The hot wire cutter that I made did a near-perfect job of cutting it, such
that filling, other than by the paint which went on it afterwards, was not
required.
Arfa
George
How much did it cost? honest figure.
George
>> comments, have a daughter who has just moved into her first house, and is
>> struggling to make ends meet. The polystyrene stuff, whilst not being the
>> one of choice for most of us more discerning types, is cheap, easy to
>> fix - especially in a bathroom with tiles right up to the ceiling - and
>> suited her just fine. The hot wire cutter that I made did a near-perfect
>> job of cutting it, such that filling, other than by the paint which went
>> on it afterwards, was not required.
>>
>> Arfa
>>
>
> How much did it cost? honest figure.
>
Forget that its dearer than plaster type. :-)
George
"405 TD Estate" <men...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
30 or higher amperage Fuse wire? attached to an non conductive U shaped
former and a 12v battery possibly an alarm typed seald unit?
Attach both ends of the fuse wire to battery.
George
"405 TD Estate" <men...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
:-) neat,why didn't I think of this.
http://club.cycom.co.uk/hotwire/Hot_wire_cutter_for_polystyrene_foam.html
Alang
wrote:
>
>"Alang" <inv...@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>
>>>Id like to think coving was staying as a feature
>>>
>> Why do you think so much was ripped out in the 60s?
>
>Because the builders who ripped them out were numbskulls,
They were often removed because of decorating fashion.
Bucknellisation as it became known
>take my CH heating
>installers for instance...they were going to chase out the fancy victorian
>coving in one corner by the gas cupboard not to mention the hall coving as
>well, there would have been murder if they had done that and its a good job
>I asked where the pipes were going to be positioned before the work
>started..
>
>A room looks bare and depressing without some sort of decorative features
>
I use pictures and change them frequently
Kevin
dennis@home
"George" <lo...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Pictures, calendars, photos, flying geese and plasma TVs are all far better
than coving.
George
"dennis@home" <den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
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Two words Dennis...
Features
Decor
Features = Give character to a home
Decor = shows the taste of the homes occupants.
dennis@home
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Features.. a bit of decor that isn't easy enough to replace.
Steve Walker
> "Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>> It seems to me that none of the people who are making the negative
>> comments, have a daughter who has just moved into her first house,
>> and is struggling to make ends meet. The polystyrene stuff, whilst
>> not being the one of choice for most of us more discerning types, is
>> cheap, easy to fix - especially in a bathroom with tiles right up to
>> the ceiling - and suited her just fine. The hot wire cutter that I
>> made did a near-perfect job of cutting it, such that filling, other
>> than by the paint which went on it afterwards, was not required.
>
> How much did it cost? honest figure.
When I last used it you could do a room for £20-30 with the paper-wrapped
poly stuff. Very cheap & tidy way of sorting out problems with the
wall-ceiling join line.
Dave Plowman (News)
Arfa Daily <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that none of the people who are making the negative
> comments, have a daughter who has just moved into her first house, and
> is struggling to make ends meet.
Yehbut she's got a rich dad. That's what they're for.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Steve Walker <spam...@beeb.net> wrote:
> When I last used it you could do a room for £20-30 with the
> paper-wrapped poly stuff. Very cheap & tidy way of sorting out
> problems with the wall-ceiling join line.
I must admit I've not seen that stuff in use. Polystyrene - to me -
always looks like what it is, due to the texture.
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Owain
>> And much easier to remove when the female of the house
>> decides a change of decor is needed
> Id like to think coving was staying as a feature
Plaster coving ... lasts longer than a marriage.
Somehow I can't see the telly adverts...
Owain
Arfa Daily
"405 TD Estate" <men...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> How did you make the hot wire saw - I've got some to cut as well...
>
I've mailed you direct off-group, using the address you posted this from.
Arfa
George
Nudge,nudge...wink,wink. lol
Why the secrecy?
Frank Erskine
wrote:
Many years ago (when I was but a lad!) I made a hot-wire cutter for
polystrene by making a bit of plywood into roughly the shape of a
fretsaw, attaching a pair of screw terminals between which I stretched
a bit (ca. 5 or 6 inches) of resistance wire from an old electric fire
element. I powered the thing from a 4v winding of an old heater
transformer.
Don't get the wire too hot or the polystyrene will melt too much
around the wire.
--
Frank Erskine
Slider
> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ? My
> daughter bought some to finish off her bathroom (which mercifully, is now
> finished :-) ) but she needed six internal angle pieces. Being the
> cheapskate that she is, she only bought one packet of four, trusting that
> I would just be able cut the corner angle on the other two. A bit of an
> experiment on some low density stuff like this, showed that no matter how
> sharp the cutting tool, it was very hard to get a nice cut finish. So I
> made a hot wire cutter to do the job, and the finish was perfect, but if
> you don't have the knowledge and bits in the junkbox to knock such a thing
> up, what else would you use ?
>
> Arfa
>
I just put 14 linear metres up this weekend. Just cut it with a regular
handsaw, perfect mitre joints. I use a coving jig though as well.
I have used both plaster coving and paper backed polystyrene coving
(covemaster stuff) and once up the poly coving looks identical to plaster.
Plus, I did the whole room in 2.5 hours. Usually use coving adhesive but
this time I tried No-nails ultra. MUCH easier / quicker.
Arfa Daily
No particular reason, George. Just that some aspects of the thread had
generated some derision from certain corners, so I didn't see a lot of point
in opening myself up to a cartload more by describing how I made my sad
little cutter. If anyone else is actually interested, just say, and I will
happily copy the mail that I sent him, to the whole group ...
Arfa
Arfa Daily
"Frank Erskine" <frank....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Yep. Pretty similar. Just brought up to date a little with some more modern
materials.
Arfa
Arfa Daily
"Slider" <sli...@slide.com> wrote in message news:gcv1cl$ovr$1...@aioe.org...
If it's paper covered stuff, then I guess that the hot wire cutter would not
be any good for that. Likewise on using coving adhesive normally, and
likewise this time in her bathroom, using No Nails. We put up about 10m of
the stuff, and under 2 hours on the whole job.
Arfa
dmc
> Steve Walker <spam...@beeb.net> wrote:
>> When I last used it you could do a room for £20-30 with the
>> paper-wrapped poly stuff. Very cheap & tidy way of sorting out
>> problems with the wall-ceiling join line.
>
>I must admit I've not seen that stuff in use. Polystyrene - to me -
>always looks like what it is, due to the texture.
The paper coated stuff from Wickes (and no doubt others) is *excellent*. I've
been completely converted. It seems to be a denser foam than the cheap nasty
polystyrene stuff (I agree - hate the texture of it showing!) and being
paper wrapped it seems to resist bendning a bit as well making it more like
the plaster stuff.
Wickes certainly don't have much of a range though - just two sizes IIRC.
Cut with a breadknife, stick up with no nails (make sure it's the solvent
free variant ;-)). An easy one man job - unlike putting up lengths of plaster
coving IME.
It is a bit more expensive than the plaster stuff I think though.
Darren
George
"dmc" <D.M.C...@ukc.ac.uk> wrote in message news:60...@malfoy.ukc.ac.uk...
Plenty of different coving here...the fancier it is the dearer it gets.
Arfa Daily
Sorry Kevin. My response was un-called for. You caught me at a bad moment on
a not-very-good day ...
:-(
Arfa
George
>
PeterMcC
>>
> Sorry Kevin. My response was un-called for. You caught me at a bad moment
> on a not-very-good day ...
Then may I wish you the best for its improvement.
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please ignore it and accept my apologies.
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Kevin
wind me up :-) but we all have bad days mines next Monday (best friends
funeral)
Arfa Daily
>>
>> Sorry Kevin. My response was un-called for. You caught me at a bad moment
>> on a not-very-good day ...
>>
>> :-(
>>
>> Arfa
> I am too long in the tooth to let usnet (or what ever its called) to wind
> me up :-) but we all have bad days mines next Monday (best friends
> funeral)
>
> --
> Kevin R
> Reply address works
Sorry to hear that. Never good when you're getting old enough for people in
your life to start checking out on you ... My bad day was caused by being
tired having worked every day, and then had to go round to my daughter's
every night to work on her goddammed bathroom. She's like a rottweiller, and
just wouldn't let me have a night off. I can kind of understand it, because
it's the only bathroom she's got, so once the bath and bog were out, she was
a bit stuck ! Still, I too am getting too long in the tooth to be doing with
it, and I was just getting plain ratty. I guess you were just joking about
with your comments, but boy, just at that particular time, it really set
light to me. Worrying really that I was that near the edge. Still, two weeks
from now, I shall be a long long way from here, taking some sun, and it
can't come soon enough ...
Arfa
Arfa Daily
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> "Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:4KHIk.962$qt6...@newsfe28.ams2...
>>>
>> Sorry Kevin. My response was un-called for. You caught me at a bad moment
>> on a not-very-good day ...
>
> Then may I wish you the best for its improvement.
>
>
> --
> PeterMcC
Thanks ! I'm better now ... d;~}
Arfa
Kevin
being pressed, I do it quite often (along with typos, grammar
errors)best of luck with the bathroom ,and sorry if my sense of humour
is not yours :-)
thecat...@aol.com
> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ? My daughter
> bought some to finish off her bathroom (which mercifully, is now finished
> :-) ) but she needed six internal angle pieces. Being the cheapskate that
> she is, she only bought one packet of four, trusting that I would just be
> able cut the corner angle on the other two. A bit of an experiment on some
> low density stuff like this, showed that no matter how sharp the cutting
> tool, it was very hard to get a nice cut finish. So I made a hot wire cutter
> to do the job, and the finish was perfect, but if you don't have the
> knowledge and bits in the junkbox to knock such a thing up, what else would
> you use ?
>
> Arfa
tabb...@gmail.com
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stvl...@googlemail.com
> > What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ?
>
> plaster stuff.
PMSL!
Andy Burns
> Andy Dingley wrote:
>> Arfa Daily wrote:
>>
>>> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ?
>>
>> Just snap it by hand until it fits in the bin, then get some decent
>> plaster stuff.
>
> PMSL!
the paper-faced extruded foam core coving is much easier to install, and
indistinguishable from the plaster coving.
http://screwfix.com/p/supercove/73243
Dave Plowman (News)
you could actually prod it, you'd be hard pressed to tell it from genuine
plaster. Except that it's a relatively easy DIY job to install. Not
exactly cheap, though.
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harry
> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ? My daughter
> bought some to finish off her bathroom (which mercifully, is now finished
> :-) ) but she needed six internal angle pieces. Being the cheapskate that
> she is, she only bought one packet of four, trusting that I would just be
> able cut the corner angle on the other two. A bit of an experiment on some
> low density stuff like this, showed that no matter how sharp the cutting
> tool, it was very hard to get a nice cut finish. So I made a hot wire cutter
> to do the job, and the finish was perfect, but if you don't have the
> knowledge and bits in the junkbox to knock such a thing up, what else would
> you use ?
>
> Arfa
But nothing is as good as hot wire.
Brian Gaff
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Brian Gaff
its not a sane reader we need but a sane portal on that particular system.
Any news portal should make it easy to screen out old posts.
One thing that I was going to ask though, what is the current fire status
of modern polystyrene tiles and coving. I seem to recall that its high melt
temperature made it spread any fire faster and the fumes were dangerous.
I still have a lot of this in my house which has just been cleaned and
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Andrew Mawson
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>In article <ehrhmn...@mid.individual.net>,
> Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> stvl...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
>> > Andy Dingley wrote:
>> >
>> >> Arfa Daily wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> What is the 'usual' way to cut low density polystyrene coving ?
>> >>
>> >> Just snap it by hand until it fits in the bin, then get some decent
>> >> plaster stuff.
>> >
>> > PMSL!
>
>> Regarding the cheap'n'nasty expanded polystyrene stuff, I agree. But
>> the paper-faced extruded foam core coving is much easier to install, and
>> indistinguishable from the plaster coving.
>
>I've got quite a bit of artificial 'ornate' Victorian style coving. Unless
>you could actually prod it, you'd be hard pressed to tell it from genuine
>plaster. Except that it's a relatively easy DIY job to install. Not
>exactly cheap, though.
>
no no as they drip on you in a fire, what's so different about the same
material at the edge of the ceiling?
Andrew
Dave Plowman (News)
> >I've got quite a bit of artificial 'ornate' Victorian style coving.
> >Unless you could actually prod it, you'd be hard pressed to tell it
> >from genuine plaster. Except that it's a relatively easy DIY job to
> >install. Not exactly cheap, though.
> >
> I'm surprised that this stuff has not been banned. Polystyrene tiles are
> a no no as they drip on you in a fire, what's so different about the
> same material at the edge of the ceiling?
polystyrene cheap ceiling tiles are made from. The outer skin is as smooth
as plaster.
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Mike Tomlinson
e_remove_me.mawson.org.uk> escribió:
>I'm surprised that this stuff has not been banned. Polystyrene tiles are a
>no no as they drip on you in a fire, what's so different about the same
>material at the edge of the ceiling?
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