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Automatically opening fridge door that's inside a cupboard.

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Dave

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Nov 4, 2002, 8:03:35 AM11/4/02
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I am getting a new fridge and freezer - seperate items.
I'm planning on making a cupboard for them.
I want to be able to open the appliance door by opening the cupboard door.

I have seen fitted kitchens that have this ability.

Where can i get these 'attachments'?
Anybody done this - experiences?

Regards,

Dave

Raymond

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Nov 4, 2002, 8:06:32 AM11/4/02
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acch...@yahoo.co.uk (Dave) wrote in
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No experience with this but I would assume that all you need to do is
attach (glue?) one to the other, I would however suspect that this could
result in a problem relating to the angle of opening required by the
differing hinges.

Are not the fitted kitchen ones simply one door which has a facade to
match the kitchen?

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steve

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:48:34 AM11/4/02
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"Dave" <acch...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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When you buy the fridge, it will come with the necessary fittings to enable
you to fit a door to it.
The fridge door usually has some guide rails and then you screw the plastic
'rail' to the outer door. The two then slide together when opening and
closing the outer door. The outer door is hinged using the normal standard
kitchen hinges.
Getting the alignment right of both the rails and hinges is IMO the hard
part. I understood the principles involved but didn`t actually attempt the
install myself.

Steve


Christian McArdle

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Nov 4, 2002, 11:07:14 AM11/4/02
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>I am getting a new fridge and freezer - seperate items.
>I'm planning on making a cupboard for them.
>I want to be able to open the appliance door by opening the cupboard door.
>
>I have seen fitted kitchens that have this ability.

You need to buy a special fridge. "Integrated" built in units are different
from free standing ones and have all the mounting points required. Kitchen
manufacturers provide special appliance doors of the correct size for
standard size units.

Christian.


Colin M

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Nov 4, 2002, 11:47:23 AM11/4/02
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On 4 Nov 2002 05:03:35 -0800, acch...@yahoo.co.uk (Dave) assembled

Do you mean you want to buy a normal fridge freezer then modify them
to accomodate kitchen cupboard doors? If so why? Almost all the major
FF manufacturers have "built in" and "built under" products in their
range. These fit into standard kitchen cupboard sizes and then have
the sliding rail gear on the door facia to screw your kitchen doors to
and adjustments so you can arrange for the fridge to be properly
closed just as the exterior door just touches the cabinet edges.

The fridge freezers seem to cost more than stand alone units for some
reason, but they are well worth the extra money if you want the
integrated kitchen look.


Alan Goodman

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Nov 4, 2002, 12:00:20 PM11/4/02
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In article <22c10aaf.02110...@posting.google.com>,
acch...@yahoo.co.uk (Dave) wrote:

There are Fridges and Freezers specifically designed to fit in kitchen
cupboards. These are designated "built in". I have recently replaced an
old built in fridge with a new one so have some limited experience.

a) There are "standard sizes" for these built in appliances.
b) I have seen two types of door fitting:
-b1) The cupboard door is hinged to the carcass and there is a sliding
arrangement so that the appliance door opens when the cupboard door is
opened. (My old fridge)
-b2) The cupboard door is fixed to the appliance door. The cupboard and
appliance door open as one using the appliances hinges. These hinges are
specifically designed to allow opening clearance. (My new fridge) IMHO
this is the better arrangement.
c) In both cases a specifically designed "built in" appliance will be
supplied with the neccesary fittings for you to attach your cupboard
door.
d) If your appliance is not a specifically designated "built in" design
then all bets are off and you are on your own.
e) You will need to ensure that there is enough airflow to the back of
the fridge and/or freezer for the cooling to occur.

regards

Alan
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David Deane

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Nov 4, 2002, 12:06:05 PM11/4/02
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Raymond wrote:
>
> acch...@yahoo.co.uk (Dave) wrote in
> news:22c10aaf.02110...@posting.google.com:
>
> > I am getting a new fridge and freezer - seperate items.
> > I'm planning on making a cupboard for them.
> > I want to be able to open the appliance door by opening the
> > cupboard door.
> >
> > I have seen fitted kitchens that have this ability.
> >
> > Where can i get these 'attachments'?
> > Anybody done this - experiences?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> No experience with this but I would assume that all you need to do is
> attach (glue?) one to the other, I would however suspect that this could
> result in a problem relating to the angle of opening required by the
> differing hinges.
>
> Are not the fitted kitchen ones simply one door which has a facade to
> match the kitchen?


I used to have a combined fridge/freezer built into a cupboard. It
was bought specially for the purpose and came with different doors
and the necessary attachments to allow the cupboard door and the
fridge doors to operate together although hinged at different
places. Basically this was a pin on the fridge doors which operated
in a bit of plastic with a sliding groove which was screwed to the
back of the doors (top and bottom of each).

I have had to replace (after keeping the fridge/freezer going for
about 19 years) the items and have bought a separate fridge and
freezer and placed them in the utility room.

The two problems that I had were that even without a back to the
cupboard there was insufficient ventilation for satisfactory long
term working and I had to replace the compressor twice, and as the
item was a combined unit and the split in the cupboard doors had
been manufactured to suit, I now cannot obtain a direct replacement.

To me it was a nice idea at the time but I was pleased to convert
the cupboard to storing items.

Dave.

Andy Dingley

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Nov 4, 2002, 1:03:09 PM11/4/02
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On 4 Nov 2002 05:03:35 -0800, acch...@yahoo.co.uk (Dave) wrote:

>I am getting a new fridge and freezer - seperate items.
>I'm planning on making a cupboard for them.

You will usually have the bits supplied with the fridge. Not all
fridges are cupboard mountable - there are issues about ventilation
etc. A "normal" fridge mounted in an enclosed space may become
expensive to run, owing to poor airflow over the condenser and
self-heating of its case.

Current fashion in fridges is also to fit thick curved doors - less
than ideal for cupboards.

If you just need the door brackets, then try Isaac Lord.

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