Prices

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Talking of price rises, the cost of fencing and wood generally seems to have
gone up a lot recently.

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[Andrew]

That was last years news Brian. A lot of timber comes from
Russia where export restrictions were already in force after
Putins 2014 invasion of the Crimea, plus some really massive
wildfires in the last couple of years in Siberia.

Andrew

[R D S]

On 09/05/2022 15:24, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

> Talking of price rises, the cost of fencing and wood generally seems to have
> gone up a lot recently.
>

I paid 14 quid for a new handle for a paving maul last week, apparently
a couple of weeks earlier they were 8 quid. Everything is going through
the roof. I might have to start looking after stuff :)

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Well its worse again now. You know I get the feeling that almost anything
happening in the world will be used to increase margins by many of the
larger companies who wholesale to the shops etc. Greedy gannet syndrome?

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[Rod Speed]

Brian Gaff (Sofa) <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote

> Well its worse again now. You know I get the feeling that almost anything
> happening in the world will be used to increase margins by many of the
> larger companies who wholesale to the shops etc.

I doubt it. And if that is true, we will see it in their balance sheets.

> Greedy gannet syndrome?

Doesn't work like that in the real world, it's too competitive for that.

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[JNugent]

Correct.

What I see at Tesco is a plethora of price labels announcing that the
goods are being sold at the same (low) price as at Aldi. This is
something relatively new in the world of UK retail.

[alan_m]

The problem I'm seeing in the local discounters is that they no longer
have stock of the cheaper items or their "own brand" items.

This month, and in many stores, what seems to be in short supply is
detergents - everything from no-name shampoos. no-name washing up
liquids, no-name clothes washing powders and gels etc. All these
usually sell at a half to a third of the price of some of the well
advertised branded products.



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[Rod Speed]

alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote
> JNugent wrote

>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Brian Gaff (Sofa) <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote

>>>> Well its worse again now. You know I get the feeling that almost
>>>> anything happening in the world will be used to increase marginsby
>>>> many of the larger companies who wholesale to the shops etc.

>>> I doubt it. And if that is true, we will see it in their balance
>>> sheets.

>>>> Greedy gannet syndrome?

>>> Doesn't work like that in the real world, it's too competitive for
>>> that.

>> Correct.

>> What I see at Tesco is a plethora of price labels announcing that the
>> goods are being sold at the same (low) price as at Aldi. This is
>> something relatively new in the world of UK retail.

> The problem I'm seeing in the local discounters is that they no longer
> have stock of the cheaper items or their "own brand" items.

Aldi and LIdl both still do and so do our 3 majors.

> This month, and in many stores, what seems to be in short supply is
> detergents - everything from no-name shampoos. no-name washing up
> liquids, no-name clothes washing powders and gels etc. All these
> usually sell at a half to a third of the price of some of the well
> advertised branded products.

That is obviously due to the fact that when there is a shortage
of what is used to make supermarket stuff, it clearly makes
sense for the manufacturers to make the brand name stuff
because their margins are much higher on the brand name stuff.

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

And because with a big increase in the price of stuff in supermarkets,
more are prepared to try the no name stuff to see if it is satisfactory.

[alan_m]

On 15/05/2022 00:49, Rod Speed wrote:

>
>> The problem I'm seeing in the local discounters is that they no longer
>> have stock of the cheaper items or their "own brand" items.
>
> Aldi and LIdl both still do and so do our 3 majors.

I was referring to lidl/aldi/home Bargains/B&M which are the main
discount stores around my way

[alan_m]

On 15/05/2022 00:57, Rod Speed wrote:

> And because with a big increase in the price of stuff in supermarkets,
> more are prepared to try the no name stuff to see if it is satisfactory.

Most of it is more than satisfactory, especially non food items which is
the stuff that seems to be in short supply on their shelves. I do get
the impression that Lidl/Aldi and more busy recently.

[ARW]

Everything has gone up - we cannot hold a quote for more than 4 weeks

[Rod Speed]

alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote

> Rod Speed wrote

>>> The problem I'm seeing in the local discounters is that they no longer
>>> have stock of the cheaper items or their "own brand" items.

>> Aldi and LIdl both still do and so do our 3 majors.

> I was referring to lidl/aldi/home Bargains/B&M which are the main
> discount stores around my way

Only because, like I said, with a shortage of what is used
to make supermarket items, the manufacturers obviously
make the brand name stuff because that has higher margins.

[Rod Speed]

alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote

> Rod Speed wrote

>> And because with a big increase in the price of stuff in supermarkets,
>> more are prepared to try the no name stuff to see if it is satisfactory.

> Most of it is more than satisfactory, especially non food items

And even the food items like sugar, milk, fruit, veg, meat etc.

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[The Natural Philosopher]

I think this is the new normal. We are going to see a step increase in
prices of around 40% and a corresponding reduction in living standards.
That will impact the marginal industries that depend on discretionary
consumer spending.
In short stagflation - higher unemployment, prices and interest rates
and a reduction in living standards.


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[JNugent]

Even though the reported rate of inflation is actually higher [in some
cases, a lot higher] in most EU countries than in the UK?

See:

<https://www.statista.com/statistics/225698/monthly-inflation-rate-in-eu-countries/>

[williamwright]

On 15/05/2022 16:09, JNugent wrote:

>
> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/225698/monthly-inflation-rate-in-eu-countries/>
>

I was trading when inflation was twenty-something percent. It was an
absolute nightmare.

Bill

[lacksey]

On Sun, 15 May 2022 22:45:38 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 15/05/2022 07:25, ARW wrote:
>> On 10/05/2022 13:00, R D S wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2022 15:24, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>> Talking of price rises, the cost of fencing and wood generally seems
>>>> to have
>>>> gone up a lot recently.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I paid 14 quid for a new handle for a paving maul last week,
>>> apparently a couple of weeks earlier they were 8 quid. Everything is
>>> going through the roof. I might have to start looking after stuff :)
>>>
>>>
>> Everything has gone up - we cannot hold a quote for more than 4 weeks
>
> I think this is the new normal. We are going to see a step increase in
> prices of around 40%

Don't believe that, that step claim never happens

> and a corresponding reduction in living standards.

Ditto.

> That will impact the marginal industries that depend on discretionary
> consumer spending.

> In short stagflation -

No chance. That wasn't seen in 2008/9

> higher unemployment,

In fact we are actually seeing record low unemployment.

> prices and interest rates and a reduction in living standards.

That wasn't seen in 2008/9

[Peeler]

[Rod Speed]

williamwright <wrights...@f2s.com> wrote

> JNugent wrote

>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/225698/monthly-inflation-rate-in-eu-countries/>

> I was trading when inflation was twenty-something percent. It was an
> absolute nightmare.

Turkey is currently seeing 70%

Zimbabwe and Venezuela far more than that.

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