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Barry Bucknall: the Father of DIY

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cd

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Nov 23, 2014, 3:55:43 PM11/23/14
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The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
Formica and Evo-Stick?

charles

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Nov 23, 2014, 3:59:26 PM11/23/14
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In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
Barry Bucknall?

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Bod

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Nov 23, 2014, 4:03:18 PM11/23/14
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On 23/11/2014 21:00, charles wrote:
> In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
> cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
>> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>
> Barry Bucknall?
>
I do.

DerbyBorn

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Nov 23, 2014, 4:25:24 PM11/23/14
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Bod <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:cdf0ci...@mid.individual.net:
in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!

soup

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Nov 23, 2014, 4:30:22 PM11/23/14
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On 23/11/2014 20:55, cd wrote:
> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.


Very nearly 100% but it was BucknEll.

Bob Eager

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Nov 23, 2014, 4:30:36 PM11/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:00:01 +0000, charles wrote:

> In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
> cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
>> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>
> Barry Bucknall?

The very one, from the subject line!

My dad hardboarded all our doors...



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soup

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Nov 23, 2014, 4:34:56 PM11/23/14
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On 23/11/2014 21:25, DerbyBorn wrote:

> in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!

Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)

The Medway Handyman

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Nov 23, 2014, 5:02:13 PM11/23/14
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My Dad did that!!!

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On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34:56 PM UTC, soup wrote:
> > in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!
> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)

thus preserving them for a future generation to restore them :-)

Owain

Roger Mills

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Nov 23, 2014, 5:08:18 PM11/23/14
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On 23/11/2014 20:55, cd wrote:
I've heard of him, but I didn't have a telly in those days!

He certainly didn't "start it all" though. I've been doing DIY since
long before that - late 50's I reckon. I suppose he may have made people
more aware of possibilities.
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Nov 23, 2014, 5:09:09 PM11/23/14
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On 23/11/2014 21:34, soup wrote:
Well on the bright side, it actually preserved some decent doors and
prevented them being replaced by eggbox nasties. At least one can pull
the hardboard off.

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Nov 23, 2014, 5:10:07 PM11/23/14
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On 23/11/2014 20:55, cd wrote:
If he is the one with the big yankee driver, then yup - just about.
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Farmer Giles

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Nov 23, 2014, 5:29:37 PM11/23/14
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On 23/11/2014 20:55, cd wrote:
I do, and I think he was a bit before the 70s - 1950s more like - and he
was Barry 'Bucknell'.

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Nov 23, 2014, 5:39:55 PM11/23/14
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cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote

> The bloke that started it all!

Like hell he did.

> I think that was his name. Anyone remember
> Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his
> hardboard, Formica and Evo-Stick?

My parents were doing DIY decades before
that and so were plenty of others as well.

spuorg...@gowanhill.com

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Nov 23, 2014, 6:06:49 PM11/23/14
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On Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:12:04 PM UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
> > My dad hardboarded all our doors...
> Why, FFS?

Panelled doors seen as old-fashioned and dust-collectors.

Owain


EricP

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Nov 23, 2014, 6:22:59 PM11/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:02:10 +0000, The Medway Handyman
<davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>On 23/11/2014 21:34, soup wrote:
>> On 23/11/2014 21:25, DerbyBorn wrote:
>>
>>> in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!
>>
>> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)
>
>My Dad did that!!!

Only because Barry told him to.

Cash

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Nov 23, 2014, 6:53:41 PM11/23/14
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Or us old carpenters to cut our then young teeth, repairing some the errors
that were made by the then budding DiYers - thus earning a few shillings to
add to our beer money pot. Tax free of course!

Ah, nostalgia - that's about the only thing I can do now without some bloody
body joint or other hurting.

Cash


Graham.

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Nov 23, 2014, 7:19:33 PM11/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:06:45 -0800 (PST), spuorg...@gowanhill.com
wrote:
Same with the staicase in lots of houses, including this one.

I pulled off the hardboard, stripped the paint, and replaced the plain
spindles with some inexpensive turned ones.
Applied woodstain, and it really sets off the hall.

And yes, it does collect more dust.



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Bob Eager

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Nov 23, 2014, 7:37:07 PM11/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:12:00 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

> In article <cdf1vo...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
> <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:00:01 +0000, charles wrote:
>>
>> > In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>> >> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>> >> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his
>> >> hardboard,
>> >> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>> >
>> > Barry Bucknall?
>>
>> The very one, from the subject line!
>>
>> My dad hardboarded all our doors...
>
> Why, FFS?

Because Barry did a programme about modernising the look...

Actually, he did the banisters all down the stairs too. Hardboard both
sides!

damdu...@yahoo.co.uk

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Nov 23, 2014, 7:42:38 PM11/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:06:45 -0800 (PST), spuorg...@gowanhill.com
wrote:

In my Grans case a couple were still damaged from debri bashing into
them in the Blitz , the OP mentioned the 70's but Bucknell started
over a decade before then.

G.Harman

Bob Eager

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Nov 23, 2014, 7:50:26 PM11/23/14
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I am pretty sure my dad did ours in the very early 1960s.

Tim Watts

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Nov 23, 2014, 8:29:02 PM11/23/14
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Yes - but easily undone - we had great fund "restoring" our doors.
Hardboard was only panel pinned on and after that we just had to pull
the stops off and re position them.

The hardest bit was dealing with the 1930's "varnish". Turned to toffee
under heat and needed gallons of painstripper. Impossible to sand.

In the end a light sand to key it and overcoat with non-drip gloss
seemed to be the easiest way.


Grimly Curmudgeon

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Nov 23, 2014, 9:24:00 PM11/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 20:55:27 +0000 (UTC), cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:

>Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
>Formica and Evo-Stick?

The man most responsible for tens of thousands of panelled Victorian
doors. Otoh, if he hadn't done that (or rather, inspired (if that's
the word) legions of aspiring DIYers to do that, we'd not have the joy
of finding some ancient doors under hardboard even now.

Andy Cap

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Nov 24, 2014, 1:32:33 AM11/24/14
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On 23/11/14 21:34, soup wrote:
It's called 'fashion' and people act like sheep. It happens all the time.

Andy Cap

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Nov 24, 2014, 1:34:21 AM11/24/14
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On 23/11/14 22:12, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <cdf1vo...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
> <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:00:01 +0000, charles wrote:
>>
>> > In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>> >> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>> >> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his
>> hardboard,
>> >> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>> > > Barry Bucknall?
>>
>> The very one, from the subject line!
>>
>> My dad hardboarded all our doors...
>
> Why, FFS?
>

For the same reason so many people are now choosing to install
free-standing baths. Because lots of people like to follow fashion.

The Medway Handyman

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Nov 24, 2014, 3:09:56 AM11/24/14
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On 23/11/2014 22:12, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <cdf1vo...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
> <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:00:01 +0000, charles wrote:
>>
>> > In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>> >> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>> >> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his
>> hardboard,
>> >> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>> > > Barry Bucknall?
>>
>> The very one, from the subject line!
>>
>> My dad hardboarded all our doors...
>
> Why, FFS?
>
Cos it went with the stone cladding and the muriels :-)

The Medway Handyman

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Nov 24, 2014, 3:10:53 AM11/24/14
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What a bloody silly idea they are.

Bod

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On 23/11/2014 22:12, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <cdf1vo...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
> <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:00:01 +0000, charles wrote:
>>
>> > In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>> >> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>> >> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his
>> hardboard,
>> >> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>> > > Barry Bucknall?
>>
>> The very one, from the subject line!
>>
>> My dad hardboarded all our doors...
>
> Why, FFS?
>
Cos Barry told him to do it ;-)

harryagain

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Nov 24, 2014, 3:28:42 AM11/24/14
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"cd" <c...@noreply.net> wrote in message news:m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me...
> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
> Formica and Evo-Stick?

Wasn't he the one that demonstrated a kitchen waste disposal unit (unheard
of back then) by dropping a glass bottle in?
F***d it up live on air!


harryagain

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Nov 24, 2014, 3:42:39 AM11/24/14
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"soup" <cheezs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23/11/2014 21:25, DerbyBorn wrote:
>
>> in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!
>
> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)

Or likewise the railings on the staircase!


Brian Gaff

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Nov 24, 2014, 3:44:15 AM11/24/14
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Yes I recall him and others. all these round the house jobs on tv is
certainly not a new thing. It was normally on a sunday morning.
Brian

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Tim Lamb

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In message <WLCdne804q5iTe_J...@brightview.co.uk>, Andy Cap
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What comes after engineered wood floor? Possible house rebuild next year
and I'd like to be in front of the trend:-)

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Andy Cap

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>>> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)
>>
>> It's called 'fashion' and people act like sheep. It happens all the time.
>
> What comes after engineered wood floor? Possible house rebuild next year
> and I'd like to be in front of the trend:-)
>

I'm not the one to ask, I'm still using lino ! ;-)

charles

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Nov 24, 2014, 4:20:17 AM11/24/14
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In article <m4ur1e$6r5$2...@dont-email.me>,
indeed. We found both when we moved in here in 1977. Oh, and the beamed
ceiling covered over, too.

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Tim Watts

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Nov 24, 2014, 4:26:42 AM11/24/14
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Rip it up.

Bare floorboards with a rectangle of carpet that stops short of all
sides by 6-12" and does not go into the alcoves.

The boards are either dry and bare, or varnished.

fred

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Nov 24, 2014, 4:34:09 AM11/24/14
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Yes I remember him as well.

Because the programmes were live he had as much material pre-prepared as possible, including setting nails. He told the story about the old dear who went to her timber merchants ans asked for the plywood Barry Bucknell used. When asked for more detail she said the one with the nails in it.

F

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Which is what we had back in the 50s and 60s.

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On 24/11/2014 06:34, Andy Cap wrote:

> For the same reason so many people are now choosing to install
> free-standing baths. Because lots of people like to follow fashion.

The biggest waste of money and space I've seen in years.

Bod

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On 24/11/2014 09:57, F wrote:
> On 24/11/2014 06:34, Andy Cap wrote:
>
>> For the same reason so many people are now choosing to install
>> free-standing baths. Because lots of people like to follow fashion.
>
> The biggest waste of money and space I've seen in years.
>
Handy for storing yer rubber ducks under the bath though.

Nightjar

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Nov 24, 2014, 5:06:00 AM11/24/14
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Aluminium chequer plate, for the industrial look.


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On Monday, November 24, 2014 8:48:45 AM UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
> What comes after engineered wood floor? Possible house rebuild next year
> and I'd like to be in front of the trend:-)

Recycled plastic planks?
http://www.filcris.co.uk/products/boards-and-posts/solid-planks

What footballers' wives have this year, Argos sells next year.

Owain

Capitol

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Nov 24, 2014, 6:02:34 AM11/24/14
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Bucknell was possibly the first TV DIY individual, but
encyclopedias/compendia from the 20s and 30s gave full instructions for
making your own paint, hanging wallpaper, bricklaying, plastering and
tool usage. My father built his mothers first radio from a kit somewhere
around 1930 and most people made many of their own clothes in the late
19th century. DIY was a necessity.

John Rumm

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Which then chips back to black/brown etc...


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Tim Watts

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On 24/11/14 09:55, F wrote:

>> Bare floorboards with a rectangle of carpet that stops short of all
>> sides by 6-12" and does not go into the alcoves.
>>
>> The boards are either dry and bare, or varnished.
>
> Which is what we had back in the 50s and 60s.
>

That was the point ;->

I see floppy 80's hairdos on the teenagers again (half the secondary
school walks past my house of a morning and afternoon).

Flares seem to have gone again, but skinny trousers are back - mostly on
hipsters. Not to mention Grizzly Adams beards.


Hotpants seem to be randomly back (hooray).



Still waiting for beehive hair and some major afros.

What else is there that hasn't been around yet? Horn rimmed glasses -
could be the next hipster thing...

Tim Watts

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Nov 24, 2014, 6:18:03 AM11/24/14
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On 23/11/14 20:55, cd wrote:
> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>

No - the beginning of DIY was when Ug decided a couple of finger
paintings of him standing victorious on a mammoth would look cool in his
cave :)

Then later, DIY was what you did when the roof leaked on your mediaeval
hovel.

Tim Watts

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Nov 24, 2014, 6:19:07 AM11/24/14
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Very practical :)

spuorg...@gowanhill.com

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On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:18:03 AM UTC, Tim Watts wrote:
> No - the beginning of DIY was when Ug decided a couple of finger
> paintings of him standing victorious on a mammoth would look cool in his
> cave :)

Actually it was when Mrs Ug decided she wanted a cave painting like Mrs Og had got.

Owain

Tim Watts

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Nov 24, 2014, 6:38:07 AM11/24/14
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;->

soup

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On 24/11/2014 09:26, Tim Watts wrote:

> Bare floorboards with a rectangle of carpet that stops short of all
> sides by 6-12" and does not go into the alcoves.

> The boards are either dry and bare, or varnished.

No boards visible on our set-up, we had a strip of lino running from
the wall to the edge of the carpet.

I remember sweeping the edge foot or so:lino(hands and knees with a
hand brush and dustpan) on that sort of set-up in the 60s/early70s
(just a sprog not born till '62 so the 50s are a mystery to me).

soup

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On 24/11/2014 11:16, Tim Watts wrote:

>
> What else is there that hasn't been around yet? Horn rimmed glasses -
> could be the next hipster thing...

What, like these?

<
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5jyhgyPTNGo/T7mBt_hwUiI/AAAAAAAACa4/s8m_sYRb7hc/s1600/horn_rimmed_frame.jpg
>

michael adams

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"Capitol" <sp...@wher.eva.co.uk> wrote in message
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A changing pattern of home ownership probably had a big impact on DIY.
All the newly built houses built between the wars probably wouldn't have
need much DIY for decades while all the older stock was probably either
rented out and so not the responsibility of the tenant, or owned by people
who relied on tradesmen. However with the decline in the rented sector
after WWII all that changed.


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Chris J Dixon

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Nov 24, 2014, 7:34:08 AM11/24/14
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A particular office area at work was tarted up for showcase
purposes, and the chosen flooring was vinyl chequer plate. The
noise every time someone moved a chair was amazing.

They really managed to go for form over function, and constructed
a freestanding transparent "whiteboard", as much in evidence on
TV. Nobody managed to read anything written on it, until it was
eventually shunted against a light coloured wall.

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Tim Lamb

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Currently carpet over chipboard.

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Tim Lamb

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Nice with underfloor heating:-)

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Tim Watts

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Nov 24, 2014, 7:45:38 AM11/24/14
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Yes - I have seen those[1]

I was more thinking:

http://hairstyletwist.com/wp-content/uploads/image/img012web.jpg


[1] I work just up from Covent garden so the place is full of
fashionable tourists and hipsters and actory types.

It's weird - first time women started wearing heavy frames again, my
reaction was "ew".

But then you see a lot of attractive women in them and the mental
association seems to change from:

https://dinnerwiththeomnivore.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/mrs-brady.jpg

to

http://lindbergglasses.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Marilyn-Monroe-Oversized-Fashion-Sunglasses-Shades.jpg

Tim Watts

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On 24/11/14 12:34, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> Tim Watts wrote:
>
>> On 24/11/14 10:05, "Nightjar <\"cpb\""@ insert my surname here> wrote:
>
>>> Aluminium chequer plate, for the industrial look.
>
>> Very practical :)
>
> A particular office area at work was tarted up for showcase
> purposes, and the chosen flooring was vinyl chequer plate. The
> noise every time someone moved a chair was amazing.



> They really managed to go for form over function, and constructed
> a freestanding transparent "whiteboard", as much in evidence on
> TV. Nobody managed to read anything written on it, until it was
> eventually shunted against a light coloured wall.


Oh dear...

The worst place I've ever been was an office in a poncy refurbished
under-the-arches place in EC London.

It looked cool.

But you could not hear yourself think let along what the bloke opposite
you was saying - the brick arch ceiling and hard mezzanine floor plus
solid ground floor bounce every little bit of sound around 100 times and
I'm pretty sure the arched ceiling acted like a parabolic reflector!

Tim Watts

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Nov 24, 2014, 7:51:21 AM11/24/14
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How about it "is the UFH" - bolt a big cable at two diagonal corners and
run it from a big transformer at a few volts :)

soup

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On 24/11/2014 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:

> I was more thinking:
>
> http://hairstyletwist.com/wp-content/uploads/image/img012web.jpg

Not tortoishelly enough for me. ;O)

Chris J Dixon

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Yes indeed. The area in question was walled off from the rest of
us by shiny partitions, which made it pretty acoustically lively.

They gave it curved corners, and a partially barriered entry, all
in Perspex. The image this design evoked was such that it was
soon nicknamed "Pissoir"

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/32031816.jpg

The sound leakage to us on neighbouring desks was pretty
irritating, and we got to know key parts of the usual
presentation by heart.

whisky-dave

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On Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:06:49 UTC, spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:12:04 PM UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
> > > My dad hardboarded all our doors...
> > Why, FFS?
>
> Panelled doors seen as old-fashioned and dust-collectors.
>
> Owain

I seem to remmeber as a kid the banistar rails being seeled in behind hardboard too.


Tim Watts

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Yes they were at our house (along with the doors) when I were a lad.

RobertL

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Nov 24, 2014, 9:58:44 AM11/24/14
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On Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:55:43 PM UTC, cd wrote:
> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
> Formica and Evo-Stick?

He died in 2003 at the age of 91

I just remember him on TV.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7235378

Andrew

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Nov 24, 2014, 10:52:44 AM11/24/14
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On 23/11/2014 22:02, The Medway Handyman wrote:
> On 23/11/2014 21:34, soup wrote:
>> On 23/11/2014 21:25, DerbyBorn wrote:
>>
>>> in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!
>>
>> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)
>
> My Dad did that!!!
>
So did mine.

We had a nice pine kitchen table. One weekend the pine top was removed
and replaced with a rectangular piece of new-fangled chipboard, with the
corners chopped off at 45 degrees, then covered with a sheet of red
formica and black edgeing stuck on with evostick.

if the panelled doors (or ornate balistrades) were just panelled in with
hardboord, then they were preserved and protected for future
generations. It was the berks who ripped all the cornicing and features
out who ruined houses.

Barry was interviewed about 10 to 15 years ago on TV and he was still
'at it'. He showed the interviewer his tea-trolley nicely upgraded with
a set of set of big rubber castor wheels that would be more at home on a
hospital trolley.

Andrew

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Nov 24, 2014, 10:55:02 AM11/24/14
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On 24/11/2014 06:32, Andy Cap wrote:
> On 23/11/14 21:34, soup wrote:
>> On 23/11/2014 21:25, DerbyBorn wrote:
>>
>>> in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!
>>
>> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)
>
> It's called 'fashion' and people act like sheep. It happens all the time.
My grand parents started taking in lodgers when he stopped working but
the council made him cover all the doors with asbestos on both sides,
overpainted to look like a smooth door.

Andrew

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Nov 24, 2014, 10:57:06 AM11/24/14
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On 24/11/2014 09:55, F wrote:
> On 24/11/2014 09:26, Tim Watts wrote:
>> On 24/11/14 08:46, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <WLCdne804q5iTe_J...@brightview.co.uk>, Andy Cap
>>> <snruwf...@trashmail.net> writes
>>>> On 23/11/14 21:34, soup wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/2014 21:25, DerbyBorn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!
>>>>>
>>>>> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)
>>>>
>>>> It's called 'fashion' and people act like sheep. It happens all the
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> What comes after engineered wood floor? Possible house rebuild next year
>>> and I'd like to be in front of the trend:-)
>>>
>>
>> Rip it up.
>>
>> Bare floorboards with a rectangle of carpet that stops short of all
>> sides by 6-12" and does not go into the alcoves.
>>
>> The boards are either dry and bare, or varnished.
>
> Which is what we had back in the 50s and 60s.
>
MY dad shellaced all the upstairs floor boards before putting non-fitted
carpets down.

Andrew

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Nov 24, 2014, 11:02:27 AM11/24/14
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On 24/11/2014 00:37, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:12:00 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>> In article <cdf1vo...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
>> <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:00:01 +0000, charles wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>>>>> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>>>>> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his
>>>>> hardboard,
>>>>> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>>>>
>>>> Barry Bucknall?
>>>
>>> The very one, from the subject line!
>>>
>>> My dad hardboarded all our doors...
>>
>> Why, FFS?
>
> Because Barry did a programme about modernising the look...
>
> Actually, he did the banisters all down the stairs too. Hardboard both
> sides!
>
>
>
Could have been a modesty-thing in the 60's as hemlines started at
bum-level.

harryagain

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Nov 24, 2014, 12:28:04 PM11/24/14
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"The Medway Handyman" <davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lJBcw.1100408$AB3.7...@fx07.am4...
> On 23/11/2014 22:12, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <cdf1vo...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
>> <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:00:01 +0000, charles wrote:
>>>
>>> > In article <m4thjv$jqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> > cd <c...@noreply.net> wrote:
>>> >> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
>>> >> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his
>>> hardboard,
>>> >> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>>> > > Barry Bucknall?
>>>
>>> The very one, from the subject line!
>>>
>>> My dad hardboarded all our doors...
>>
>> Why, FFS?
>>
> Cos it went with the stone cladding and the muriels :-)


And a bit later the Artex!


harryagain

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Nov 24, 2014, 12:28:04 PM11/24/14
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"soup" <cheezs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23/11/2014 21:25, DerbyBorn wrote:
>
>> in the days when people learned something from watching DIY on TV!
>
> Like how to ruin paneled doors by covering them in hardboard. ;O)

Here yah go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVnzu0COFU


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Farmer Giles

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Nov 24, 2014, 12:45:11 PM11/24/14
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I suspect that it was a bit more than that. He died almost 12 years ago,
aged 91.

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The Medway Handyman

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Nov 24, 2014, 3:13:03 PM11/24/14
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I once installed a patio awning inside a 'trendy' office. The 2m x 3m
Velux style roof window made it unusable on sunny days.

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Rod Speed

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Nov 24, 2014, 3:32:30 PM11/24/14
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"RobertL" <rober...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Bizarre wearing a tie to do DIY.

j...@mdfs.net

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Nov 24, 2014, 5:33:59 PM11/24/14
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harry wrote:
> And a bit later the Artex!

God, I'm still taking the angle grinder to that stuff in my kitchen.

jgh

spuorg...@gowanhill.com

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Nov 24, 2014, 6:15:40 PM11/24/14
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Hah, I had tongue-and-groove on the ceiling, which I am slowly converting into pipe and cable boxing-in.

Owain


Nightjar

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Nov 24, 2014, 6:48:52 PM11/24/14
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On 24/11/2014 11:16, Tim Watts wrote:
...
> What else is there that hasn't been around yet? Horn rimmed glasses -
> could be the next hipster thing...

I've just ordered some new glasses. According to my optician, the latest
thing are the thick black frames that I last wore in the 1960s.

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Nov 25, 2014, 5:08:53 AM11/25/14
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:03:14 +0000, Capitol <sp...@wher.eva.co.uk>
wrote:


>>.
>
> Bucknell was possibly the first TV DIY individual, but
>encyclopedias/compendia from the 20s and 30s gave full instructions for
>making your own paint, hanging wallpaper, bricklaying, plastering and
>tool usage. My father built his mothers first radio from a kit somewhere
>around 1930 and most people made many of their own clothes in the late
>19th century. DIY was a necessity.

Often those books seemed to be given out as school prizes in the age
when pupils ended school at 14. Both my Father and my FIl had such
books. A plan for a Rabbit Hutch and Pop Pop boat seem to be
compulsory.

G.Harman

newshound

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Nov 25, 2014, 6:15:13 AM11/25/14
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On 23/11/2014 20:55, cd wrote:
> The bloke that started it all! I think that was his name.
> Anyone remember Barry on the telly in the early 70s with his hardboard,
> Formica and Evo-Stick?
>
I'm amazed that no-one seems to have mentioned the big Yankee spiral
ratchet screwdriver (used with pre-drilled pilot and main holes, of
course, so everything went together incredibly quickly and easily).

Now, of course, with decent rechargable drill-drivers and twinstart
screws anyone can put stuff together just as quickly!

newshound

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Nov 25, 2014, 6:16:54 AM11/25/14
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Sorry, I see John mentioned this last night!

Adam Funk

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Nov 25, 2014, 7:30:06 AM11/25/14
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On 2014-11-24, Chris J Dixon wrote:

> Yes indeed. The area in question was walled off from the rest of
> us by shiny partitions, which made it pretty acoustically lively.
>
> They gave it curved corners, and a partially barriered entry, all
> in Perspex. The image this design evoked was such that it was
> soon nicknamed "Pissoir"
>
> http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/32031816.jpg

That looks rather more sophisticated than the traditional French one.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespasienne

(Last time I was in Paris, I tracked down & used the last one
standing, as shown in the photo there. It was in pretty bad shape & I
had to be careful where I stood.)

> The sound leakage to us on neighbouring desks was pretty
> irritating, and we got to know key parts of the usual
> presentation by heart.

Ha ha, you said "leakage".


Tim Watts

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Nov 25, 2014, 8:37:33 AM11/25/14
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On 25/11/14 12:16, Adam Funk wrote:

> Ha ha, you said "leakage".

Thank you Finbarr Funk...

;->


charles

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Nov 25, 2014, 2:42:21 PM11/25/14
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In article <q5SdnXr-nesi-enJ...@brightview.co.uk>,
I still have a small real Yankee screwdriver and a large imitation one. I
used the small one last week. It gets to places a power drill cannot reach.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

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Nov 25, 2014, 4:40:00 PM11/25/14
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:55:22 +0000, F <news@nowhere> wrote:

>> Bare floorboards with a rectangle of carpet that stops short of all
>> sides by 6-12" and does not go into the alcoves.
>>
>> The boards are either dry and bare, or varnished.
>
>Which is what we had back in the 50s and 60s.

Yes, and what made it horrible back then was the un-insulated flooring
and draughts everywhere. If it comes back, at the very least the regs
will ensure some improvement in comfort.
Of course, there will be some slaves to fashion /cheapskates who just
adopt the look and think nothing of the discomfort.

Fitted carpet for me, every time. I remember the shitty carpet squares
of the 50s and 60s and stand aghast at cheapy crappy imitation
polished wood floors, which just look nasty.

Vir Campestris

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Nov 25, 2014, 4:42:30 PM11/25/14
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On 25/11/2014 19:26, charles wrote:
> I still have a small real Yankee screwdriver and a large imitation one. I
> used the small one last week. It gets to places a power drill cannot reach.

I have a full Yankee and a Stanley Handyman. Put a blind up with the
handyman at the weekend, and used the Yankee to assemble some flatpack
at work a few weeks ago (1)

I'll admit I did cheat and use a power drill for most of the screws!

Andy
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Can't possibly have been a good use of the company's money to have a
bunch of engineers building their own desks ;)
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