When did lath and plaster go out of fashion?

Tim+

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Apr 30, 2016, 2:36:12 PM4/30/16

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In general, and perhaps in rural Scotland?

Just taken down a small internal "porch" from my daughter's kitchen.
Clearly not original (flat dates from the turn of the century) and built on
a chipboard floor. Bits of newspaper stuffed in the wall suggest a date of
1981 for its construction but surprised by its L&P construction.

Were there still "old school" builders in the early 80s using L&P or is it
more likely that the floor was replace beneath an existing internal wall?

Tim

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Graham.

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Apr 30, 2016, 2:53:01 PM4/30/16

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Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

I wonder how long it will be before "The turn of the century"
will unequivocally refer to the current century. ;-)

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DerbyBorn

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Apr 30, 2016, 3:08:42 PM4/30/16

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"Graham." <graham...@mail.com> wrote in
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> Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> In general, and perhaps in rural Scotland?
>>
>> Just taken down a small internal "porch" from my daughter's kitchen.
>> Clearly not original (flat dates from the turn of the century) and
>> built on a chipboard floor. Bits of newspaper stuffed in the wall
>> suggest a date of 1981 for its construction but surprised by its L&P
>> construction.
>>
>> Were there still "old school" builders in the early 80s using L&P or
>> is it more likely that the floor was replace beneath an existing
>> internal wall?
>>
>> Tim
>>
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> I wonder how long it will be before "The turn of the century"
> will unequivocally refer to the current century. ;-)
>

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Tricky Dicky

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Apr 30, 2016, 3:21:50 PM4/30/16

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Oldest house we owned was a 1957 semi. It had no studded walls but all the ceilings were plasterboard. So I would say pre 1957 at least.

Richard

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Apr 30, 2016, 3:32:11 PM4/30/16

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On 30/04/2016 19:32, Tim+ wrote:
> In general, and perhaps in rural Scotland?
>
> Just taken down a small internal "porch" from my daughter's kitchen.
> Clearly not original (flat dates from the turn of the century)

So a mere snip of 15 years ago?

> and built on a chipboard floor. Bits of newspaper stuffed in the
> wall suggest a date of 1981 for its construction but surprised by its
> L&P construction.

Its not unknown for lathe a plaster walls to fall down leaving the lathes.

Assuming the lathes are in good condition, or where damaged areas are
repairable it's probably just as easy to plaster, ie base coat etc in
the normal way.

> Were there still "old school" builders in the early 80s using L&P or
> is it more likely that the floor was replace beneath an existing
> internal wall?

No one I know would make a new L&P wall!

Phil L

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Apr 30, 2016, 3:40:03 PM4/30/16

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Tim+ wrote:
> In general, and perhaps in rural Scotland?
>
> Just taken down a small internal "porch" from my daughter's kitchen.
> Clearly not original (flat dates from the turn of the century) and
> built on a chipboard floor. Bits of newspaper stuffed in the wall
> suggest a date of 1981 for its construction but surprised by its L&P
> construction.
>
> Were there still "old school" builders in the early 80s using L&P or
> is it more likely that the floor was replace beneath an existing
> internal wall?

The floor's been replaced. The newspaper was probably stuffed in as part of
a repair in the 80's. Plasterboard has been the norm since the early fifties
and the house I'm in (built in 49) has plasterboard ceilings

The Natural Philosopher

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Apr 30, 2016, 4:30:16 PM4/30/16

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On 30/04/16 20:21, Tricky Dicky wrote:
> Oldest house we owned was a 1957 semi. It had no studded walls but all the ceilings were plasterboard. So I would say pre 1957 at least.
>
> Richard
>

I've not seen lathe an plaster on anything post-war, so before that anyway.

"In the United Kingdom and its colonies, lath and plaster was often used
for interior partition walls and the construction of ceilings, before
the introduction of plasterboard in the 1930s."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lath_and_plaster

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Tim+

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Apr 30, 2016, 4:35:17 PM4/30/16

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Thanks. I've been coming around to that idea as the most probable answer.

Tim

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polygonum

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Apr 30, 2016, 5:44:30 PM4/30/16

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On 30/04/2016 21:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> I've not seen lathe an plaster on anything post-war, so before that anyway.

Plasterboard started in 1888, apparently. In Rochester, Kent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drywall

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Steve Walker

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Apr 30, 2016, 6:59:53 PM4/30/16

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Or we stop "taping" TV programmes.

Dave Plowman (News)

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Apr 30, 2016, 7:46:13 PM4/30/16

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In article <26518306-4233-493e...@googlegroups.com>,

Tricky Dicky <tricky...@sky.com> wrote:
> Oldest house we owned was a 1957 semi. It had no studded walls but all
> the ceilings were plasterboard. So I would say pre 1957 at least.

This house had a deal of war time repairs after bombing. All plasterboard.

Parent's house built new in 1936 in Scotland all lath and plaster.

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Brian Gaff

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May 1, 2016, 3:05:31 AM5/1/16

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One on topic reply. I think there are people out there who can build these
walls and finish them in the old traditional ways, for example where
extensions are built I was surprised about 6 years ago to be shown that the
walls were in fact being finished in the old way in the new part, presumably
to make it all hang together as one unit as things settled. i don't know not
being a plasterer!
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On 30 Apr 2016, DerbyBorn <Some...@Nearhome.com> grunted:

> "Graham." <graham...@mail.com> wrote in
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>> I wonder how long it will be before "The turn of the century"
>> will unequivocally refer to the current century. ;-)
>
> When my wife stops saying "pull the chain"

Nowt wrong with that: we still 'pull the chain' here!:
http://tinyurl.com/ztv6r77 (or
http://www.bathroomspareparts.co.uk/ekmps/shops/ebaths2/images/fluidmaster-
flush-valve-push-button-kit-pro73uk-22409-p.jpg)

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Bob Eager

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May 1, 2016, 5:58:49 AM5/1/16

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Perhaps I should think about:
- chain disappearing into ceiling, with old fashioned triangular metal
'pull' on the bottom
- switch operated by chain, activating an Arduino to play sound effect
of loud 'clank'.
- wireless link to solenoid in low level cistern, to operate the real
flush.