Butter knife..?
Haven`t recently reponded to a survey by Focus DIY by any chance? ;-)
Torx is specifically incompatible with hex keys and a screwdriver will
mince the head, get the proper tool, or a hex drive insert bit for a
couple of quid and save having to drill a high tensile bolt out after.
Cheers
Adam
3.32 GBP Toolstation
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Automotive/Hex+Keys/Folding+Torx+Set+8+Piece/d60/sd3194/p32803
Cheers
Adam
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Michael Chare
notice more and more ... that manufacturers got wise to Joe public having
Torx tools and now often see Torx with a centre hole ... sometimes sold as
security Torx screws.
Don't think Torx are used for security - they are excellent at holding the
screw on the tool and taking high torque.
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Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Depends how tight it is. A well fitting flat blade screwdriver will
sometimes do. But T30 is quite large so probably too tight.
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Tom
Well they are sold as security torx - but you can easily buy bits with a
hole in the middle such as http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p30295
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Robin
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There is a security Torx I'm looking at some now!. Like Torx but with a
hole in the middle. Some might describe that as security.. Some might
not!...
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Tony Sayer
> notice more and more ... that manufacturers got wise to Joe public having
> Torx tools and now often see Torx with a centre hole ... sometimes sold as
> security Torx screws.
And very easily to undo :-
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/96872 - £4.47 for a set of 32 bits, including
Torx with centre holes.
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Mike Clarke
If your short of the bit , lot of times can snap the centre out of the
fastener with a screwdiver.
Cheers
Adam
Some might describe them as a PITA, Panasonic use them on their dome
cameras, I normally change them for crossheads. Not many bad guys
bother unscrewing the cameras, they just smash them.
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Bill
> I bought a Torx set from ebay for
>around a fiver, as others have mentioned you will defiantly need it.
"Hey Torx, I fart in your general direction!", kind of thing?
Oh indeed. Although surely it's the driver which has the hole?
What I meant was that the original Torx weren't intended as security
devices. Unless the starter motor on my SD1 - and seats - are particularly
valuable. ;-) Just a better drive than allen at the same head size.
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> Apparently a need a T30 Torx driver, which I haven't got.
So go to the shop and buy one, then you'll have one.
They're not expensive. Treat yourself and buy a decent interchangeable
hex bit driver and set of bits. T30 is dead common, there will be one
in there.
I think he meant "defiantly use it".
> Torx were designed for automatic insertion machinery on robotic assembly
> lines.
That was sort of my guess. No conspiracy theory here. ;-)
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I reckon there a lot better than Pozidrive, dunno why their not that
more used?..
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Tony Sayer
> I reckon there a lot better than Pozidrive, dunno why their not that
> more used?..
Worldwide, Torx are more common than Pozidrive and have been since
some time in the '90s. Most "Pozi" screws (outside Europe) are
actually Phillips, which combine the worst of Pozi features with some
of those of the cross slot, particularly their weakness when formed in
a cheesemetal screwhead.
The great advantage of Torx is their good performance when the driver
is square-on, as for automated assembly. Their weakness is their
dependency on having the driver square-on, which makes them awkward
for maintenance later. This is something that Pozi and especially the
later improved Pozi, Superdrive?, are particularly good at.
Of course either are far better than something like a Bristol spline,
which only works when screw and driver are made from the best of
materials, in perfect condition. Some far-Eastern screws (Playstation
case?) are now using "Wankel" screws with a rounded triangular socket
in their head. It's a poor design, except for its compatibility with
weak cheesemetal screwheads, as it doesn't load the corners of the
socket..
Wikipedia has had a good article recently, "List of screw drives" or
somesuch. Best read it before some wikifuckwit deletes it as "not
notable" or "original research".