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Harry Bloomfield
May 24, 2013, 6:18:15 AM5/24/13
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I'm struggling to set up an IP camera, a Maginon IP1....
It has both wired LAN socket and wireless. Using the wired I have
managed to configure it, set it to enable the wireless, set it up with
a dedicated IP and set its MAC code to give it WiFi access in the
router.
It works via the wired connection, but I need it to work via WiFi and
it is not showing up in the routers list of attached devices once I
disconnect its LAN connection and try rebooting it.
I'm used to devices which have both WiFi and wired access having two
MAC codes and needing to be allocated an IP for each, but this seems to
only allow the setting of / provide one of each. Is this normal for IP
Cameras?
--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
It has both wired LAN socket and wireless. Using the wired I have
managed to configure it, set it to enable the wireless, set it up with
a dedicated IP and set its MAC code to give it WiFi access in the
router.
It works via the wired connection, but I need it to work via WiFi and
it is not showing up in the routers list of attached devices once I
disconnect its LAN connection and try rebooting it.
I'm used to devices which have both WiFi and wired access having two
MAC codes and needing to be allocated an IP for each, but this seems to
only allow the setting of / provide one of each. Is this normal for IP
Cameras?
--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
Mentalguy2k8
May 24, 2013, 6:45:38 AM5/24/13
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"Harry Bloomfield" <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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the camera compatible with whatever wifi security you have on your router?
Adrian Brentnall
May 24, 2013, 6:45:49 AM5/24/13
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FWIW - I had the same experience with a generic lan/wireless camera from
ebay -
seemed the only way to get it to work 'wirelessly' was to boot it with
the LAN cable connected, then keep the power on & unplug the LAN
(which kind of defeats the object of having it wireless....)
Never did get to the bottom of it - it's intended use was to find out
what was raiding our storage area by the woodpile - turned out to be
magpies rather than rats... - but, having proved that, I've not used it
since..
Not a lot of help, I know - but you're not alone!
Adrian
Harry Bloomfield
May 24, 2013, 7:01:17 AM5/24/13
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Mentalguy2k8 has brought this to us :
Yes it is compatible with the encryption, but I'm testing it with
'none'.
'none'.
Mentalguy2k8
May 24, 2013, 7:04:23 AM5/24/13
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Is the camera wifi IP determined by the camera itself? If so, it may be
requesting an IP address from the router that's "outside" your current
network's IP range, or an IP that's aleady in use.
There's a good article here:
http://www.ipcamerasupplier.com/blog/connect-wireless-ip-camera-to-wireless-router.html
requesting an IP address from the router that's "outside" your current
network's IP range, or an IP that's aleady in use.
There's a good article here:
http://www.ipcamerasupplier.com/blog/connect-wireless-ip-camera-to-wireless-router.html
AlanC
May 24, 2013, 7:32:50 AM5/24/13
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Are you using MAC address filtering on your router? If so, try switching it off.
Harry Bloomfield
May 24, 2013, 10:28:12 AM5/24/13
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Mentalguy2k8 wrote :
The camera can scan and find my wireless access point and I can then
select the AP/ set it to use it, I just cannot see the camera listed in
my connected devices of my router and obviously also cannot use it.
Which was what got me thinking along th lines of it might have a
different IP and MAC for the wireless side.
select the AP/ set it to use it, I just cannot see the camera listed in
my connected devices of my router and obviously also cannot use it.
Which was what got me thinking along th lines of it might have a
different IP and MAC for the wireless side.
Harry Bloomfield
May 24, 2013, 10:42:17 AM5/24/13
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AlanC explained :
Yes I was using MAC filtering and the reason it wasn't able to connect,
was that it was the wrong MAC code entered in the filter. I had entered
the only MAC code reported by the units software, but the wireless side
used a different code. There were no codes on the box, not inside and
none on the camera either, but the wireless code showed up as soon as I
turned access control off.
> Are you using MAC address filtering on your router? If so, try switching it
> off.
I just beat you too it :-)
> off.
Yes I was using MAC filtering and the reason it wasn't able to connect,
was that it was the wrong MAC code entered in the filter. I had entered
the only MAC code reported by the units software, but the wireless side
used a different code. There were no codes on the box, not inside and
none on the camera either, but the wireless code showed up as soon as I
turned access control off.
Dave Liquorice
May 24, 2013, 10:36:49 AM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 11:18:15 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> It has both wired LAN socket and wireless. Using the wired I have
> managed to configure it, set it to enable the wireless, set it up with
> a dedicated IP and set its MAC code to give it WiFi access in the
> router.
My WiFi access point needs several web page buttons pressing and a reboot
> It has both wired LAN socket and wireless. Using the wired I have
> managed to configure it, set it to enable the wireless, set it up with
> a dedicated IP and set its MAC code to give it WiFi access in the
> router.
before it allows a new MAC address access. Before the reboot it lies
about how it is configured...
Why not just use DHCP? At least for testing, you may find once it's been
given an address that address will be effectively static.
> I'm used to devices which have both WiFi and wired access having two
> MAC codes and needing to be allocated an IP for each, but this seems to
> only allow the setting of / provide one of each. Is this normal for IP
> Cameras?
and be happier with different IP address's. Can you interogate your
access point to see what other devices are out there and possibly
discover/check the cameras WiFi MAC address?
--
Cheers
Dave.
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Harry Bloomfield
May 24, 2013, 12:41:56 PM5/24/13
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Jethro_uk used his keyboard to write :
> plugged an address in at the camera end ? Does the router know ? I have
> had weird behaviour when I set an IP address in the client, and the
> router is configured for DHCP.
>
> Have you tried it leaving the camera setup blank, and letting the router
> provide the IP address ?
>
> FWIW I prefer fixing IP addresses to individual machines to be done by
> the router. I suspect some routers have a security wonk which prevents
> them from communicating with devices they haven't issued the IP address
> to.
Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 15:28:12 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>
>> Mentalguy2k8 wrote :
>>> "Harry Bloomfield" <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:mn.c2d17dd57b...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk...
>>>> Mentalguy2k8 has brought this to us :
>>>>> "Harry Bloomfield" <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>> message news:mn.c2a67dd5b4...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk...
>>>>>> I'm struggling to set up an IP camera, a Maginon IP1....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has both wired LAN socket and wireless. Using the wired I have
>>>>>> managed to configure it, set it to enable the wireless, set it up
>>>>>> with a dedicated IP and set its MAC code to give it WiFi access in
>>>>>> the router.
>>>>>>
>
>
>
>> Mentalguy2k8 wrote :
>>> "Harry Bloomfield" <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:mn.c2d17dd57b...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk...
>>>> Mentalguy2k8 has brought this to us :
>>>>> "Harry Bloomfield" <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>> message news:mn.c2a67dd5b4...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk...
>>>>>> I'm struggling to set up an IP camera, a Maginon IP1....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has both wired LAN socket and wireless. Using the wired I have
>>>>>> managed to configure it, set it to enable the wireless, set it up
>>>>>> with a dedicated IP and set its MAC code to give it WiFi access in
>>>>>> the router.
>>>>>>
>
>
>> The camera can scan and find my wireless access point and I can then
>> select the AP/ set it to use it, I just cannot see the camera listed in
>> my connected devices of my router and obviously also cannot use it.
>>
>> Which was what got me thinking along th lines of it might have a
>> different IP and MAC for the wireless side.
>
> You say you have given it a dedicated IP address. How ? Have you simply
>> select the AP/ set it to use it, I just cannot see the camera listed in
>> my connected devices of my router and obviously also cannot use it.
>>
>> Which was what got me thinking along th lines of it might have a
>> different IP and MAC for the wireless side.
>
> plugged an address in at the camera end ? Does the router know ? I have
> had weird behaviour when I set an IP address in the client, and the
> router is configured for DHCP.
>
> Have you tried it leaving the camera setup blank, and letting the router
> provide the IP address ?
>
> FWIW I prefer fixing IP addresses to individual machines to be done by
> the router. I suspect some routers have a security wonk which prevents
> them from communicating with devices they haven't issued the IP address
> to.
Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
Timothy Murphy
May 25, 2013, 8:48:24 AM5/25/13
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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
> was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
Slightly OT, but can anyone recommend a good IP camera?
> Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
> was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
I have two Linksys WVC54GCA's in Italy which work pretty well,
but the quality of the picture could be better.
Actually, I have problems viewing them with a browser
(Firefox or IE) but see the pictures well with VideoLAN/VLC .
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure these cameras have the same MAC address
for WiFi and ethernet.
You set them up by connecting with ethernet,
and then removing the ethernet cable and re-starting the camera.
Interestingly, I had one camera looking out of a window down a street,
and the Carabinieri asked me to remove it,
presumably because a neighbour thought it was spying on them.
This camera has a bright blue light
which I have been unable to turn off.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin
Harry Bloomfield
May 25, 2013, 11:32:28 AM5/25/13
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Timothy Murphy submitted this idea :
> Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
>> was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
>
> Slightly OT, but can anyone recommend a good IP camera?
> I have two Linksys WVC54GCA's in Italy which work pretty well,
> but the quality of the picture could be better.
>
> Actually, I have problems viewing them with a browser
> (Firefox or IE) but see the pictures well with VideoLAN/VLC .
>
> Incidentally, I'm pretty sure these cameras have the same MAC address
> for WiFi and ethernet.
> You set them up by connecting with ethernet,
> and then removing the ethernet cable and re-starting the camera.
>
> Interestingly, I had one camera looking out of a window down a street,
> and the Carabinieri asked me to remove it,
> presumably because a neighbour thought it was spying on them.
> This camera has a bright blue light
> which I have been unable to turn off.
Bluetack something over the light perhaps?
>
>> Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
>> was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
>
> Slightly OT, but can anyone recommend a good IP camera?
> I have two Linksys WVC54GCA's in Italy which work pretty well,
> but the quality of the picture could be better.
>
> Actually, I have problems viewing them with a browser
> (Firefox or IE) but see the pictures well with VideoLAN/VLC .
>
> Incidentally, I'm pretty sure these cameras have the same MAC address
> for WiFi and ethernet.
> You set them up by connecting with ethernet,
> and then removing the ethernet cable and re-starting the camera.
>
> Interestingly, I had one camera looking out of a window down a street,
> and the Carabinieri asked me to remove it,
> presumably because a neighbour thought it was spying on them.
> This camera has a bright blue light
> which I have been unable to turn off.
Harry Bloomfield
May 25, 2013, 11:49:40 AM5/25/13
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Timothy Murphy presented the following explanation :
special offer last week at around ￜ50, but they had a few left which
were reduced to ￜ43. Its 640x480 good enough to recognise those you
know, but not quite good enough for identifying strange faces - for
that you need HD.
When triggered by movement, it can FTP the photos up to a website and
HTTP. Includes a free DDNS service, if it is on a none fixed IP. Rather
strangely, if alarmed and only sometimes - it might send you an email
and all it sends is the direct IP address to the camera, nothing more.
It offers three levels of access via its webpage - full admin, operate
the camera only, or only view the cameras picture. It includes Android
access too. The image system seems quite sensitive, it remains on
usable colour even down to street lighting levels, whereas our other
wired colour camera just shows complete blackness.
It is also supposed to be able to use or be compatible with some other
software, but I have not yet explored that.
> Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
>> was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
>
> Slightly OT, but can anyone recommend a good IP camera?
> I have two Linksys WVC54GCA's in Italy which work pretty well,
> but the quality of the picture could be better.
The one I bought seems not too bad so far for a cheapy - Aldi on
>
>> Thanks, all sorted now - it did have a separate MAC for the wifi and it
>> was my routers MAC filtering preventing it connecting.
>
> Slightly OT, but can anyone recommend a good IP camera?
> I have two Linksys WVC54GCA's in Italy which work pretty well,
> but the quality of the picture could be better.
special offer last week at around ￜ50, but they had a few left which
were reduced to ￜ43. Its 640x480 good enough to recognise those you
know, but not quite good enough for identifying strange faces - for
that you need HD.
When triggered by movement, it can FTP the photos up to a website and
HTTP. Includes a free DDNS service, if it is on a none fixed IP. Rather
strangely, if alarmed and only sometimes - it might send you an email
and all it sends is the direct IP address to the camera, nothing more.
It offers three levels of access via its webpage - full admin, operate
the camera only, or only view the cameras picture. It includes Android
access too. The image system seems quite sensitive, it remains on
usable colour even down to street lighting levels, whereas our other
wired colour camera just shows complete blackness.
It is also supposed to be able to use or be compatible with some other
software, but I have not yet explored that.
Timothy Murphy
May 25, 2013, 1:39:13 PM5/25/13
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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>> Interestingly, I had one camera looking out of a window down a street,
>> and the Carabinieri asked me to remove it,
>> presumably because a neighbour thought it was spying on them.
>> This camera has a bright blue light
>> which I have been unable to turn off.
>
> Bluetack something over the light perhaps?
I did try something like that,
>> Interestingly, I had one camera looking out of a window down a street,
>> and the Carabinieri asked me to remove it,
>> presumably because a neighbour thought it was spying on them.
>> This camera has a bright blue light
>> which I have been unable to turn off.
>
> Bluetack something over the light perhaps?
but the light was surprisingly intense,
and shone (slightly) through or around whatever I tried.
In any case, the camera itself would have been visible
if one knew where to look,
so I decided discretion was the better part of valour,
and moved the 2 cameras to other windows in the house,
which don't look out on neighbours.
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