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Black and Decker Workmate - still with dangerously sharp edges?
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MM
Mar 1, 2011, 6:36:35 AM3/1/11
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I've had my B&D workmate for nigh on 25 years and it has given
marvellous service. However, it ain't the safest thing to have around.
I was reminded the other day when I brushed past it in the garage and
ripped open my trousers on one of the sharp edges. When you carefully
feel around the thing there are sharp edges/corners everywhere. I
can't see how something like that would ever get any elfnsafety seal
of approval nowadays.
marvellous service. However, it ain't the safest thing to have around.
I was reminded the other day when I brushed past it in the garage and
ripped open my trousers on one of the sharp edges. When you carefully
feel around the thing there are sharp edges/corners everywhere. I
can't see how something like that would ever get any elfnsafety seal
of approval nowadays.
Now, my 'mate is getting pretty ropey. The plastic clips that keep the
legs extended have long since broken off, so that it's a PITA getting
the thing to stand on its own four legs. Time for a new 'mate, I
reckon. What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
alternatives?
Oh, and on the drill issue I've found the Argos one at £9.99, same
price as Tesco's (probably same thing with different badge on it), so
that looks like it's sorted.
So now to the Workmate! (By the way, if I hadn't been wearing
trousers, but, say, shorts in the summer, my leg would have been
ripped open instead.)
MM
Chris
Mar 1, 2011, 7:41:28 AM3/1/11
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"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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If it's still more or less OK apart from the clips, get a new set !
Plenty on eBay for around £5 per set of 4
Google for
"Black & Decker Workmate Leg Catch "
Part no. for mine was 374985-49
Chris
Ian & Hilda Dedic
Mar 1, 2011, 8:44:46 AM3/1/11
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> Part no. for mine was 374985-49
>
> Chris
>
>
dedics
MM
Mar 1, 2011, 9:13:23 AM3/1/11
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Ha ha. Actually, the ruddy thing has sharp bits all over it. I really
ought to file down/round off the worst culprits, but then I'd have to
paint over it to prevent rust.
I must say I'm surprised that the catches are available separately, so
I may well look into getting some. I think one of the clips is still
functioning.
MM
SS
Mar 1, 2011, 10:07:29 AM3/1/11
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news:jjvpm6l6sbbi51ctu...@4ax.com...I have had mine must be 34 years and never known any sharp edges.
mind you I have never checked, but it has been used plenty over the years.
mind you I have never checked, but it has been used plenty over the years.
Chris K
Mar 1, 2011, 10:26:18 AM3/1/11
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> news:jjvpm6l6sbbi51ctu...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:44:46 +0000, Ian& Hilda Dedic
>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:44:46 +0000, Ian& Hilda Dedic
Mine is about the same age but they were a cast alloy construction then
and the unfolding mechanism for the legs was different. Much better and
lighter IMHO.
Chris K
hugh
Mar 1, 2011, 1:11:19 PM3/1/11
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In message <_Y7bp.92100$ts7....@newsfe14.ams2>, SS
<none...@blueyonder.co.uk> writesLikewise. The OP could perhaps get some flexible plastic u-channel and
stick it on the offending edges.
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stick it on the offending edges.
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DavidM
Mar 1, 2011, 1:55:50 PM3/1/11
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The old B&D cast alloy ones were very good, had mine for years and it
didn't get treated gently! Finally one of the legs snapped when I
dropped a heavy tree trunk on it (don't ask) so my son bought me a new
one for christmas - one of the B&D pressed steel things.
Absolutely hopless, not very rigid, the tops wobble about on their
fixings, and seem made of cardboard - a lump has already broken off.
As for standing on it - NO WAY (I used to on the old one).
Old Git
Mar 1, 2011, 3:09:54 PM3/1/11
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Spares for most Workmates here.
http://www.mtmc.co.uk/Spare-Parts/Black--Decker-Spare-Parts/Indoor/Workmates,-Vice,-Jobbers,-Ladders/Workmates__c-p-0-0-240-241-12705023-12705065-12705214.aspx
Watch for wrap
The Medway Handyman
Mar 1, 2011, 3:30:51 PM3/1/11
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On 01/03/2011 11:36, MM wrote:
> I've had my B&D workmate for nigh on 25 years and it has given
> marvellous service. However, it ain't the safest thing to have around.
> I was reminded the other day when I brushed past it in the garage and
> ripped open my trousers on one of the sharp edges. When you carefully
> feel around the thing there are sharp edges/corners everywhere. I
> can't see how something like that would ever get any elfnsafety seal
> of approval nowadays.
>
> Now, my 'mate is getting pretty ropey. The plastic clips that keep the
> legs extended have long since broken off, so that it's a PITA getting
> the thing to stand on its own four legs. Time for a new 'mate, I
> reckon. What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
> alternatives?
> I've had my B&D workmate for nigh on 25 years and it has given
> marvellous service. However, it ain't the safest thing to have around.
> I was reminded the other day when I brushed past it in the garage and
> ripped open my trousers on one of the sharp edges. When you carefully
> feel around the thing there are sharp edges/corners everywhere. I
> can't see how something like that would ever get any elfnsafety seal
> of approval nowadays.
>
> Now, my 'mate is getting pretty ropey. The plastic clips that keep the
> legs extended have long since broken off, so that it's a PITA getting
> the thing to stand on its own four legs. Time for a new 'mate, I
> reckon. What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
> alternatives?
Draper Magnum 850. Streets ahead.
http://www.alltoolsdirect.co.uk/draper-expert-850-magnum-compact-workbench-88906-1203-p.asp
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Ericp
Mar 1, 2011, 4:33:48 PM3/1/11
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:55:50 +0000, DavidM
<davidm_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<davidm_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>The old B&D cast alloy ones were very good, had mine for years and it
>didn't get treated gently! Finally one of the legs snapped when I
>dropped a heavy tree trunk on it (don't ask) so my son bought me a new
>one for christmas - one of the B&D pressed steel things.
>
>Absolutely hopless, not very rigid, the tops wobble about on their
>fixings, and seem made of cardboard - a lump has already broken off.
>As for standing on it - NO WAY (I used to on the old one).
Yes I still use my cast one regularly. Only problem so far is the feet
wore out. A set of feet from an old bath provided a replacement, even
the threads on the stems matched.
Bill
Mar 1, 2011, 6:19:07 PM3/1/11
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In message <k5mpm6lsli0j7bifs...@4ax.com>, MM
<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better alternatives?
<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better alternatives?
My very old cast Workmate is still great. Well worn, but does the job.
My 2ish year old Wickes branded cheapo version is utterly, utterly
dreadful.
Close the jaws and they rise up and push the object of their affections
out, the metalwork bends and sways.
Wickes is writ large on the front, presumably as a warning to keep well
clear.
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Richard Russell
Mar 1, 2011, 6:32:32 PM3/1/11
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:30:51 -0000, The Medway Handyman
<davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
<davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Draper Magnum 850. Streets ahead.
>
> http://www.alltoolsdirect.co.uk/draper-expert-850-magnum-compact-workbench-88906-1203-p.asp
Pity you didn't follow your own link: "This item has been discontinued..."
Richard.
http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/
The Medway Handyman
Mar 1, 2011, 7:21:37 PM3/1/11
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MM
Mar 2, 2011, 3:26:30 AM3/2/11
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That looks very flimsy. It must wobble all over the place. At least
the Workmate is utterly stable, once I've coaxed all four legs out.
They're like unruly puppies.
MM
The Medway Handyman
Mar 2, 2011, 3:34:44 AM3/2/11
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Far from flimsy, built like a brick outhouse. Doesn't wobble at all.
Dave Plowman (News)
Mar 1, 2011, 6:50:33 PM3/1/11
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In article <nn8e6Tdr...@itsound.demon.co.uk>,
Bill <Billa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My very old cast Workmate is still great. Well worn, but does the job.
Bill <Billa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My very old cast Workmate is still great. Well worn, but does the job.
> My 2ish year old Wickes branded cheapo version is utterly, utterly
> dreadful.
My original Workmate - mostly ally - cost a great deal. The Wicks one
probably much less in cash terms even before inflation is taken into
account.
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Baz
Mar 2, 2011, 7:53:29 AM3/2/11
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Roger Mills
Mar 2, 2011, 8:42:47 AM3/2/11
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On 01/03/2011 11:36, MM wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Now, my 'mate is getting pretty ropey. The plastic clips that keep the
> legs extended have long since broken off, so that it's a PITA getting
> the thing to stand on its own four legs. Time for a new 'mate, I
> reckon. What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
> alternatives?
>
>
Dunno - but don't be tempted to buy the Screwfix-branded jobbie that's > legs extended have long since broken off, so that it's a PITA getting
> the thing to stand on its own four legs. Time for a new 'mate, I
> reckon. What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
> alternatives?
>
>
on offer at the moment - they're complete crap, despite some of the
positive reviews on the SF site!
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Matty F
Mar 3, 2011, 2:50:48 AM3/3/11
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On Mar 2, 12:36 am, MM <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
> alternatives?
My workmate is still going OK.
ButI have something that I like better. My neighbour put it out in the
rubbish and there's no name on it so I don't know what it is. It's all
steel. It's about the same size as half a Workmate. There's a singe
winder and movable jaw on the end, and a fixed jaw that can be moved
to clamp up to 600mm. Both jaws can swivel and hold irregular shaped
objects. Perhaps somebody knows what it is.
The Medway Handyman
Mar 5, 2011, 12:01:34 PM3/5/11
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Matty F
Mar 21, 2011, 6:17:06 PM3/21/11
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On Mar 6, 5:01 am, The Medway Handyman <davidl...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
> On 03/03/2011 07:50, Matty F wrote:
>
> > On Mar 2, 12:36 am, MM<kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
> >> alternatives?
>
> > My workmate is still going OK.
> > ButI have something that I like better. My neighbour put it out in the
> > rubbish and there's no name on it so I don't know what it is. It's all
> > steel. It's about the same size as half a Workmate. There's a singe
> > winder and movable jaw on the end, and a fixed jaw that can be moved
> > to clamp up to 600mm. Both jaws can swivel and hold irregular shaped
> > objects. Perhaps somebody knows what it is.
>
> One of these?
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?rlz=1T4GZEV_enGB413GB414&q=t...
wrote:
> On 03/03/2011 07:50, Matty F wrote:
>
> > On Mar 2, 12:36 am, MM<kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> What are recent Workmates like? Are there any better
> >> alternatives?
>
> > My workmate is still going OK.
> > ButI have something that I like better. My neighbour put it out in the
> > rubbish and there's no name on it so I don't know what it is. It's all
> > steel. It's about the same size as half a Workmate. There's a singe
> > winder and movable jaw on the end, and a fixed jaw that can be moved
> > to clamp up to 600mm. Both jaws can swivel and hold irregular shaped
> > objects. Perhaps somebody knows what it is.
>
> One of these?
>
Mine is the same general design, but it's all metal. The middle clamp
can be removed so the platform can be used like a saw horse with
nothing sticking up.e.g.to put a door on.
jgharston
Mar 21, 2011, 6:27:14 PM3/21/11
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MM wrote:
> >http://www.alltoolsdirect.co.uk/draper-expert-850-magnum-compact-work...
> That looks very flimsy. It must wobble all over the place.
> >http://www.alltoolsdirect.co.uk/draper-expert-850-magnum-compact-work...
> That looks very flimsy. It must wobble all over the place.
Have they never heard of the principle of levers? I'd be scared
putting
any force on the edge of one of those with it essentially balanced
on a pivot.
JGH
The Medway Handyman
Mar 21, 2011, 8:16:19 PM3/21/11
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????
The thing is built like a brick sh*thouse. Its rated at 200kg!
MM
May 31, 2020, 6:00:53 AM5/31/20
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A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
ecker?
ecker?
Adrian
May 31, 2020, 6:17:27 AM5/31/20
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<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
Adrian
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>A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>ecker?
The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
>ecker?
Adrian
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May 31, 2020, 6:40:07 AM5/31/20
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In article <pXGMiTKl...@ffoil.org.uk>,
more cast ally.
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Adrian <d...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
> In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> >ecker?
> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
Still got my original with cast ally frame. Although earlier ones had even
> In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> >ecker?
> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
more cast ally.
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Dave Plowman (News)
May 31, 2020, 6:52:08 AM5/31/20
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In article <58793ab...@davenoise.co.uk>,
ally coloured.
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Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <pXGMiTKl...@ffoil.org.uk>,
> Adrian <d...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
> > In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
> > <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> > >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> > >ecker?
> > The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
> Still got my original with cast ally frame. Although earlier ones had
> even more cast ally.
It's a mixture of plain ally and blue painted steel. First ones were all
> In article <pXGMiTKl...@ffoil.org.uk>,
> Adrian <d...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
> > In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
> > <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> > >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> > >ecker?
> > The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
> Still got my original with cast ally frame. Although earlier ones had
> even more cast ally.
ally coloured.
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Tricky Dicky
May 31, 2020, 7:05:17 AM5/31/20
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The B&D workmate is certainly not an item that has improved over time. Compared to my original one the present one is a lot flimsier and full of sharp edges, I only use it these days in desperation.
Richard
Richard
charles
May 31, 2020, 7:16:43 AM5/31/20
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> In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> >ecker?
> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
and they had decent ply tops. I've still got mine - I hope.
> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> >ecker?
> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
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Dave Plowman (News)
May 31, 2020, 8:24:46 AM5/31/20
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In article <c10f6bf0-dedd-43c9...@googlegroups.com>,
The original was pretty expensive. Current ones pretty cheap.
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Tim+
May 31, 2020, 8:38:38 AM5/31/20
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MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> ecker?
>
It took you nine years to spot that reply to your post in 2011?
> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> ecker?
>
Tim
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michael adams
May 31, 2020, 9:26:45 AM5/31/20
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All the rest was sheet steel painted blue.
Hickman's original design the Mk 1 had a flat piece of ply as a base.
One sold today on eBay for £395
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk1-Workmate-Made-for-Black-Decker-by-Mate-Tools-Ltd-Vintage-1968-Ron-Hickman-/353085859198
To me that looks in mint condition, and looks a bargain at that price
for tool collectors. As he wasn't selling them in large quantities at
that stage. But mostly to tradesmen who will have knocked them about.
The listing is incorrect. They weren't made for Black and Decker. At that stage
Hickman sold them himself.
When Black and Decker bought him out around 1973 they redesigned the base
with four folding legs, and made the top thinner around 1" birch ply with
holes to take bench pegs as on full size workbenches. This was the Mk II.
Later versions the Mk III onwards with hollow steel frames are lighter,
allegedly, even stronger.
But all still incorporate Hickman's original innovatons, Foldng down when
not in use,and the vice top.
michael adams
...
>A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> ecker?
The first two versions had two alloy H frames.
> ecker?
All the rest was sheet steel painted blue.
Hickman's original design the Mk 1 had a flat piece of ply as a base.
One sold today on eBay for £395
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk1-Workmate-Made-for-Black-Decker-by-Mate-Tools-Ltd-Vintage-1968-Ron-Hickman-/353085859198
To me that looks in mint condition, and looks a bargain at that price
for tool collectors. As he wasn't selling them in large quantities at
that stage. But mostly to tradesmen who will have knocked them about.
The listing is incorrect. They weren't made for Black and Decker. At that stage
Hickman sold them himself.
When Black and Decker bought him out around 1973 they redesigned the base
with four folding legs, and made the top thinner around 1" birch ply with
holes to take bench pegs as on full size workbenches. This was the Mk II.
Later versions the Mk III onwards with hollow steel frames are lighter,
allegedly, even stronger.
But all still incorporate Hickman's original innovatons, Foldng down when
not in use,and the vice top.
michael adams
...
michael adams
May 31, 2020, 9:41:59 AM5/31/20
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"michael adams" <mjad...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:rb0baj$5kg$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> "MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com...
>>A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>> ecker?
>
> The first two versions had two alloy H frames.
>
> All the rest was sheet steel painted blue.
>
> Hickman's original design the Mk 1 had a flat piece of ply as a base.
>
> One sold today on eBay for £395
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk1-Workmate-Made-for-Black-Decker-by-Mate-Tools-Ltd-Vintage-1968-Ron-Hickman-/353085859198
>
> To me that looks in mint condition, and looks a bargain at that price
> for tool collectors. As he wasn't selling them in large quantities at
> that stage. But mostly to tradesmen who will have knocked them about.
>
> The listing is incorrect. They weren't made for Black and Decker. At that stage
> Hickman sold them himself.
There is something wrong here somewhere.
> "MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com...
>>A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>> ecker?
>
> The first two versions had two alloy H frames.
>
> All the rest was sheet steel painted blue.
>
> Hickman's original design the Mk 1 had a flat piece of ply as a base.
>
> One sold today on eBay for £395
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk1-Workmate-Made-for-Black-Decker-by-Mate-Tools-Ltd-Vintage-1968-Ron-Hickman-/353085859198
>
> To me that looks in mint condition, and looks a bargain at that price
> for tool collectors. As he wasn't selling them in large quantities at
> that stage. But mostly to tradesmen who will have knocked them about.
>
> The listing is incorrect. They weren't made for Black and Decker. At that stage
> Hickman sold them himself.
A close examination of one of those photos shows "Black and Decker" in red,
on the label on the front of the top. Supposedly on a 1968 model.
And yet on the Workmate Wiki page it claims
<quote>
He had his first breakthrough in 1968, after convincing a DIY magazine to let him
exhibit at the Ideal
Home Exhibition in London, which enabled him to sell 1,800 units that year.[2]
</quote>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_%26_Decker_Workmate
Itself a quote from
https://toolsfirst.com/workmate-workbench-history/
The thick plottens
charles
May 31, 2020, 9:50:32 AM5/31/20
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In article <rb0baj$5kg$1...@dont-email.me>, michael adams
like doors. But I didn't reaise it was B&D then. I'm not sure their name
was on it.
<mjad...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> "MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com...
> >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> > ecker?
> The first two versions had two alloy H frames.
> All the rest was sheet steel painted blue.
> Hickman's original design the Mk 1 had a flat piece of ply as a base.
> One sold today on eBay for £395
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk1-Workmate-Made-for-Black-Decker-by-Mate-Tools-Ltd-Vintage-1968-Ron-Hickman-/353085859198
> To me that looks in mint condition, and looks a bargain at that price for
> tool collectors. As he wasn't selling them in large quantities at that
> stage. But mostly to tradesmen who will have knocked them about.
> The listing is incorrect. They weren't made for Black and Decker. At that
> stage Hickman sold them himself.
> When Black and Decker bought him out around 1973 they redesigned the base
> with four folding legs, and made the top thinner around 1" birch ply with
> holes to take bench pegs as on full size workbenches. This was the Mk II.
That's my version. I've even got some extension arms to hold bigger things
> "MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com...
> >A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> > ecker?
> The first two versions had two alloy H frames.
> All the rest was sheet steel painted blue.
> Hickman's original design the Mk 1 had a flat piece of ply as a base.
> One sold today on eBay for £395
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk1-Workmate-Made-for-Black-Decker-by-Mate-Tools-Ltd-Vintage-1968-Ron-Hickman-/353085859198
> To me that looks in mint condition, and looks a bargain at that price for
> tool collectors. As he wasn't selling them in large quantities at that
> stage. But mostly to tradesmen who will have knocked them about.
> The listing is incorrect. They weren't made for Black and Decker. At that
> stage Hickman sold them himself.
> When Black and Decker bought him out around 1973 they redesigned the base
> with four folding legs, and made the top thinner around 1" birch ply with
> holes to take bench pegs as on full size workbenches. This was the Mk II.
like doors. But I didn't reaise it was B&D then. I'm not sure their name
was on it.
michael adams
May 31, 2020, 10:05:44 AM5/31/20
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eBay a while back, and they work fine.
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May 31, 2020, 10:24:40 AM5/31/20
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> That's my version. I've even got some extension arms to hold bigger things
> like doors. But I didn't reaise it was B&D then. I'm not sure their name
> was on it.
Having just checked on mine. When its upright, "Workmate" is on the
> like doors. But I didn't reaise it was B&D then. I'm not sure their name
> was on it.
front of the front frame and is what you see immediately. Looking
through to the back frame that has "Black and Decker" on it. And
that's the same from both directions.
So both frames have "Workmate" on the outside, and "Black and Decker"
on the inside. On mine anyway. I'm not sure of the position when
it's folded.
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charles
May 31, 2020, 10:38:56 AM5/31/20
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In article <rb0en5$q05$1...@dont-email.me>, michael adams
Just looked. Mine is the same, but I've never noticed the B&D name before,
just seen "Workmate".
just seen "Workmate".
mechanic
May 31, 2020, 1:41:32 PM5/31/20
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:03:58 +0100, charles wrote:
> In article <pXGMiTKl...@ffoil.org.uk>,
> Adrian <d...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
>> In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
>> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>>>ecker?
>
>> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
>
> and they had decent ply tops. I've still got mine - I hope.
So have I, but one of the feet got lost during a move and I've been
> In article <pXGMiTKl...@ffoil.org.uk>,
> Adrian <d...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
>> In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
>> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>>>ecker?
>
>> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
>
> and they had decent ply tops. I've still got mine - I hope.
unable to find a replacement - usual eBay sources no use. Resting on
a handy offcut of approx the right thickness is so diy!
alan_m
May 31, 2020, 2:04:38 PM5/31/20
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On 31/05/2020 11:00, MM wrote:
> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> ecker?
>
The originals were cast iron - I have one.
> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
> ecker?
>
It was only later that the legs became angle iron.
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May 31, 2020, 2:10:10 PM5/31/20
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On 31/05/2020 19:04, alan_m wrote:
> On 31/05/2020 11:00, MM wrote:
>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>> ecker?
>>
>
> The originals were cast iron - I have one.
> It was only later that the legs became angle iron.
>
>
Correction
> On 31/05/2020 11:00, MM wrote:
>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>> ecker?
>>
>
> The originals were cast iron - I have one.
> It was only later that the legs became angle iron.
>
>
Just checking mine which is 30+ years old - it part cast and part
pressed steel but substantially more sold than what is now sold as a
workmate.
Murmansk
May 31, 2020, 2:30:28 PM5/31/20
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My brother, who is now 63, got a Workmate for his 18th birthday soon after they came out I think
It was made of square section tubular steel in blue and rather heavy but it was a lovely thing. I've done a Google image search and not been able to find a picture of one like he had/has.
It was probably too well made to be economic to continue making it
It was made of square section tubular steel in blue and rather heavy but it was a lovely thing. I've done a Google image search and not been able to find a picture of one like he had/has.
It was probably too well made to be economic to continue making it
Bob Eager
May 31, 2020, 2:54:39 PM5/31/20
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 19:10:07 +0100, alan_m wrote:
> On 31/05/2020 19:04, alan_m wrote:
>> On 31/05/2020 11:00, MM wrote:
>>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black &
>>> D ecker?
>>>
>>>
>> The originals were cast iron - I have one.
>> It was only later that the legs became angle iron.
>>
>>
>>
> Correction Just checking mine which is 30+ years old - it part cast and
> part pressed steel but substantially more sold than what is now sold as
> a workmate.
Think that's the same as mine - bought in 1981.
> On 31/05/2020 19:04, alan_m wrote:
>> On 31/05/2020 11:00, MM wrote:
>>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black &
>>> D ecker?
>>>
>>>
>> The originals were cast iron - I have one.
>> It was only later that the legs became angle iron.
>>
>>
>>
> Correction Just checking mine which is 30+ years old - it part cast and
> part pressed steel but substantially more sold than what is now sold as
> a workmate.
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>
> So have I, but one of the feet got lost during a move and I've been
> unable to find a replacement - usual eBay sources no use.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=drill+stand&_sop=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR4.TRC2.A0.H0.Xworkmate++feet.TRS0&_nkw=workmate++feet&_sacat=0
> So have I, but one of the feet got lost during a move and I've been
> unable to find a replacement - usual eBay sources no use.
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newshound
May 31, 2020, 3:59:30 PM5/31/20
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On 31/05/2020 11:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <pXGMiTKl...@ffoil.org.uk>,
> Adrian <d...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
>> In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
>> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>>> ecker?
>
>> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
>
> Still got my original with cast ally frame. Although earlier ones had even
> more cast ally.
>
I had one, but cracked it by dropping a metro engine/gearbox unit on it.
> In article <pXGMiTKl...@ffoil.org.uk>,
> Adrian <d...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
>> In message <6c3b12c9-cfde-4e8d...@googlegroups.com>, MM
>> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & D
>>> ecker?
>
>> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
>
> Still got my original with cast ally frame. Although earlier ones had even
> more cast ally.
>
It did a great job of shock absorbing, though, no damage at all to the
car bits.
alan_m
May 31, 2020, 5:02:45 PM5/31/20
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Andy Burns
May 31, 2020, 8:22:47 PM5/31/20
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Adrian wrote:
> MM writes
> MM writes
>
>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & Decker?
>
> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
My neighbour has one ...
>> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & Decker?
>
> The original Workmate had cast alloy frames. B&D bought them out.
Brian Gaff (Sofa)
Jun 1, 2020, 4:43:46 AM6/1/20
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Some of those I saw looked like cast ally, but the edges were not deburred.
I used to have a steel one, weighed a tone and you could so easily trap a
pinky in the two catches either side. It had extra legs for added height,
and those were some kind of cast alloy.
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I used to have a steel one, weighed a tone and you could so easily trap a
pinky in the two catches either side. It had extra legs for added height,
and those were some kind of cast alloy.
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(325); I see there are some of these complete models on eBay but
collect only! Even the one on offer for a tenner would involve a 250
mile there and 250 back before breaking it for parts.
michael adams
Jun 1, 2020, 9:29:30 AM6/1/20
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> On Sun, 31 May 2020 20:40:01 +0100, michael adams wrote:
>
>> "mechanic" <mech...@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:68l1atl9dabx$.dlg@example1357.net...
>>>
>>> So have I, but one of the feet got lost during a move and I've been
>>> unable to find a replacement - usual eBay sources no use.
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=drill+stand&_sop=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR4.TRC2.A0.H0.Xworkmate++feet.TRS0&_nkw=workmate++feet&_sacat=0
>>
>> michael adams
>>
>> ...
>
> Unfortunately that source doesn't list feet for the model I have
> (325);
Sorry, my mistake. That model has got two piece, strut type legs which
>
>> "mechanic" <mech...@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:68l1atl9dabx$.dlg@example1357.net...
>>>
>>> So have I, but one of the feet got lost during a move and I've been
>>> unable to find a replacement - usual eBay sources no use.
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=drill+stand&_sop=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR4.TRC2.A0.H0.Xworkmate++feet.TRS0&_nkw=workmate++feet&_sacat=0
>>
>> michael adams
>>
>> ...
>
> Unfortunately that source doesn't list feet for the model I have
> (325);
I wasn't even aware existed. Whereas subsequent models like mine had
one piece legs, pressed out of sheet steel, and I never even checked
the model number when buying replacement feet.
> I see there are some of these complete models on eBay but
> collect only! Even the one on offer for a tenner would involve a 250
> mile there and 250 back before breaking it for parts.
feet I suppose. They come off easily enough. Although as they'd then
be left with a workmate without any feet that they'd still need to
get rid of, the offer would need to take that into account I'd
imagine.
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Phil Addison
Jun 1, 2020, 1:15:30 PM6/1/20
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:00:51 -0700 (PDT), in uk.d-i-y MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & Decker?
I still have mine bought 1975 or 76 for around £25-£30 and is in frequent use. It's an all cast ally frame with galvanised pressed steel step, and sturdy ply jaws-cum-benchtop, and looks much firmer than the modern pressed steel and plastic version.
> A cast alloy Workmate? Never heard of one. Are you sure it's a Black & Decker?
Two of the cast ally H-crossbars are moulded both sides, one with "Black & Decker", the other with "WORKMATE, and the cast ally crossbar of the height extension legs with "Dual-Height Professional" on the rear face only (so not noticeable from the working position). The lettering is all topped in blue (anodised?).
The instruction label under the bench jaws says "WM 325 ONLY" referring to opening the extension legs. Anyone know the model number of the single-height version?
Details for enthusiasts...
Height of top - 825mm legs extended, 585mm legs folded.
Worktop made from plywood, believed to be beech.
10 steel-lined stop-peg holes in each half of top.
100mm max parallel jaw opening.
Jaws can open different amounts each side to give a clamp angle up to 8.5 degrees.
Total worktop area 740x346 opened, 740x247 closed.
Worktop thickness 17.6mm (reinforced to double thickness below clamp edges).
Have seen a couple on eBay for £100.
Phil
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by mechanic for which he can't source a spare foot.
The 325 is intermediate between Ron Hickman's first design which had
a wooden base with feet on the corners and thick jaws, and the much
more common 79-001 where all the components apart from the alloy H frames
are made from pressed steel.
What's maybe surprising is that B&D persisted for so long with the all
cast design which presumably was much more expensive to produce than the
pressed steel version.
What's equally surprising, given that all this is relatively recent. is the
lack of any authoritative or definitive history of the Workmate and its
development; either online or in terms of written sources referenced
by the online "histories", so-called. Although presumably checking
sufficient back issues of old DIY and trade magazines would probably
provide all the answers.
I believe the single height version is (nowadays at least) called the
Workmate 1000
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Bob Martin
Jun 2, 2020, 2:29:10 AM6/2/20
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I've made feet for all sorts of things.
Dave Plowman (News)
Jun 2, 2020, 8:58:06 AM6/2/20
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In article <3ImdnYuJKMcln0jD...@brightview.co.uk>,
only. The other with flip up additional ones. To give a choice of working
height.
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michael adams <mjad...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> Sorry, my mistake. That model has got two piece, strut type legs which
> I wasn't even aware existed. Whereas subsequent models like mine had
> one piece legs, pressed out of sheet steel, and I never even checked
> the model number when buying replacement feet.
ISTR there were at least two models available. One with one piece legs
> Sorry, my mistake. That model has got two piece, strut type legs which
> I wasn't even aware existed. Whereas subsequent models like mine had
> one piece legs, pressed out of sheet steel, and I never even checked
> the model number when buying replacement feet.
only. The other with flip up additional ones. To give a choice of working
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Halmyre
Jun 2, 2020, 9:39:20 AM6/2/20
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Think it's a 525
https://picclick.co.uk/Black-and-Decker-Workmate-WM525-202510234029.html
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michael adams
Jun 2, 2020, 2:33:50 PM6/2/20
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <3ImdnYuJKMcln0jD...@brightview.co.uk>,
> michael adams <mjad...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>> Sorry, my mistake. That model has got two piece, strut type legs which
>> I wasn't even aware existed. Whereas subsequent models like mine had
>> one piece legs, pressed out of sheet steel, and I never even checked
>> the model number when buying replacement feet.
>
> ISTR there were at least two models available. One with one piece legs
> only. The other with flip up additional ones. To give a choice of working
> height.
Good point. They still make, or at least did, up until recently a single
> michael adams <mjad...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>> Sorry, my mistake. That model has got two piece, strut type legs which
>> I wasn't even aware existed. Whereas subsequent models like mine had
>> one piece legs, pressed out of sheet steel, and I never even checked
>> the model number when buying replacement feet.
>
> ISTR there were at least two models available. One with one piece legs
> only. The other with flip up additional ones. To give a choice of working
> height.
height model, now called the 1000 I believe. When they started is another
matter.
However they seem to have been largely overlooked.
Looking at them, they lack the large footprint and thus the resulting
stability which was a big feature of the WM. They were, and are
a bit lighter to carry about I suppose; but that lightness might
also be a disadvantage stability wise. You're supposed to rest
your foot on the crossbar I believe
Just as all pictures of the dual height model only ever show
them fully extended, not with the legs folded and resting on
the small feet. At a guess many users only ever used them at the
lower height as a platform to stand on, rather than as
workbench as such..
Having checked the picturesm the all-alloy orignial Mark II 325
already had the extra small feet, which would allow it to used
with the legs folded underneath.
But then... looking at the original Mk1 design with the large wooden
platform underneath, with a small foot on each corner, this is similar
to the mark II but with the feet folded way. So that basically the
Mark II was simply the Mark 1 with a foldable leg added to each
corner, based on a shorter H frame
michael adams
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Jun 3, 2020, 6:24:07 AM6/3/20
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In article <rb6628$8vm$1...@dont-email.me>,
working height when installing the crankshaft. And, of course, very useful
as a hop up. Well worth the extra cost, I'd say.
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michael adams <mjad...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> Just as all pictures of the dual height model only ever show
> them fully extended, not with the legs folded and resting on
> the small feet. At a guess many users only ever used them at the
> lower height as a platform to stand on, rather than as
> workbench as such..
I found the lower height handy on mine. To raise an engine block to a nice
> Just as all pictures of the dual height model only ever show
> them fully extended, not with the legs folded and resting on
> the small feet. At a guess many users only ever used them at the
> lower height as a platform to stand on, rather than as
> workbench as such..
working height when installing the crankshaft. And, of course, very useful
as a hop up. Well worth the extra cost, I'd say.
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Dec 28, 2022, 9:38:53 PM12/28/22
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On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 3:00:31 PM UTC-4, michael adams wrote:
<stuff deleted>
https://h-frame.weebly.com/
I started it in January 2020, focusing on the 79-001, the original U.S. model from 1974-1982. Since then I have expanded it immensely. It has so many features that I'm not going to try to list them all; you can explore. Since I'm in the U.S. it still concentrates on U.S. models, but I have done significant research on UK models as well. For example, try:
Early UK and European Workmates — https://h-frame.weebly.com/uk--european-workmates.html
Mate Tools Ltd.—The Workmate Before Black & Decker — https://h-frame.weebly.com/blog/mate-tools-ron-hickmans-workmate-before-black-decker
Workmate Manufacturing History — https://h-frame.weebly.com/blog/where-was-the-black-decker-workmate-made
More Workmate-related documents than you can imagine, including a few from the UK — https://h-frame.weebly.com/documents.html
<stuff deleted>
> What's equally surprising, given that all this is relatively recent. is the
> lack of any authoritative or definitive history of the Workmate and its
> development;
If there are still some Workmate fans here, you'll be happy to know that my website "H-frame" is the comprehensive Workmate site you're looking for:
> lack of any authoritative or definitive history of the Workmate and its
> development;
https://h-frame.weebly.com/
I started it in January 2020, focusing on the 79-001, the original U.S. model from 1974-1982. Since then I have expanded it immensely. It has so many features that I'm not going to try to list them all; you can explore. Since I'm in the U.S. it still concentrates on U.S. models, but I have done significant research on UK models as well. For example, try:
Early UK and European Workmates — https://h-frame.weebly.com/uk--european-workmates.html
Mate Tools Ltd.—The Workmate Before Black & Decker — https://h-frame.weebly.com/blog/mate-tools-ron-hickmans-workmate-before-black-decker
Workmate Manufacturing History — https://h-frame.weebly.com/blog/where-was-the-black-decker-workmate-made
More Workmate-related documents than you can imagine, including a few from the UK — https://h-frame.weebly.com/documents.html
Brian Gaff
Dec 29, 2022, 5:32:28 AM12/29/22
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I had one for many years, Made of steel except for the four extension legs
with the levelling feet. Its one issue was that the catches under each edge
could cause a trapped bit of skin on a finger as the springs were very
strong when you needed to fold it flat.
Mine was Black and Decker and took some serious abuse and never complained.
It had a lot of paint on its wooden bits when I gave it away, but still
function fine. I used to spray paint front panels etc, and never bothered to
mask the wood. I gave it away as DIY on large scale and soldering was too
dangerous as I lost my sight.
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Workmate Manufacturing History -
with the levelling feet. Its one issue was that the catches under each edge
could cause a trapped bit of skin on a finger as the springs were very
strong when you needed to fold it flat.
Mine was Black and Decker and took some serious abuse and never complained.
It had a lot of paint on its wooden bits when I gave it away, but still
function fine. I used to spray paint front panels etc, and never bothered to
mask the wood. I gave it away as DIY on large scale and soldering was too
dangerous as I lost my sight.
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On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 3:00:31 PM UTC-4, michael adams wrote:
<stuff deleted>
> What's equally surprising, given that all this is relatively recent. is
> the
> lack of any authoritative or definitive history of the Workmate and its
> development;
If there are still some Workmate fans here, you'll be happy to know that my
website "H-frame" is the comprehensive Workmate site you're looking for:
https://h-frame.weebly.com/
I started it in January 2020, focusing on the 79-001, the original U.S.
model from 1974-1982. Since then I have expanded it immensely. It has so
many features that I'm not going to try to list them all; you can explore.
Since I'm in the U.S. it still concentrates on U.S. models, but I have done
significant research on UK models as well. For example, try:
Early UK and European Workmates -
<stuff deleted>
> What's equally surprising, given that all this is relatively recent. is
> the
> lack of any authoritative or definitive history of the Workmate and its
> development;
If there are still some Workmate fans here, you'll be happy to know that my
website "H-frame" is the comprehensive Workmate site you're looking for:
https://h-frame.weebly.com/
I started it in January 2020, focusing on the 79-001, the original U.S.
model from 1974-1982. Since then I have expanded it immensely. It has so
many features that I'm not going to try to list them all; you can explore.
Since I'm in the U.S. it still concentrates on U.S. models, but I have done
significant research on UK models as well. For example, try:
https://h-frame.weebly.com/uk--european-workmates.html
Mate Tools Ltd.-The Workmate Before Black & Decker -
https://h-frame.weebly.com/blog/mate-tools-ron-hickmans-workmate-before-black-decker
Workmate Manufacturing History -
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SteveW
Dec 29, 2022, 6:44:59 AM12/29/22
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On 29/12/2022 10:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I had one for many years, Made of steel except for the four extension legs
> with the levelling feet. Its one issue was that the catches under each edge
> could cause a trapped bit of skin on a finger as the springs were very
> strong when you needed to fold it flat.
> Mine was Black and Decker and took some serious abuse and never complained.
> It had a lot of paint on its wooden bits when I gave it away, but still
> function fine. I used to spray paint front panels etc, and never bothered to
> mask the wood. I gave it away as DIY on large scale and soldering was too
> dangerous as I lost my sight.
I still have a B&D Workmate (inherited from my F-I-L), but it is rarely
> I had one for many years, Made of steel except for the four extension legs
> with the levelling feet. Its one issue was that the catches under each edge
> could cause a trapped bit of skin on a finger as the springs were very
> strong when you needed to fold it flat.
> Mine was Black and Decker and took some serious abuse and never complained.
> It had a lot of paint on its wooden bits when I gave it away, but still
> function fine. I used to spray paint front panels etc, and never bothered to
> mask the wood. I gave it away as DIY on large scale and soldering was too
> dangerous as I lost my sight.
used, as I also have a much cheaper and simpler generic version
(basically a folding A-frame tressle, with a step across one pair of
legs and the guides for the wooden clamping surfaces directly on top).
The cheap version is so much quicker, easier and safer to put up and
down, that that is the one normally used.
Brian Gaff
Dec 30, 2022, 3:36:14 AM12/30/22
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Mine had a step too, and was easy to put up and down as well. Maybe they
over complicated it later on. It was heavy though, being mostly steel, but
that made it all the more stable when in use. I'd certainly not want to hang
it on the workshop wall like you used to see in the adverts, if it fell off
it could do some serious damage!
Brian
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over complicated it later on. It was heavy though, being mostly steel, but
that made it all the more stable when in use. I'd certainly not want to hang
it on the workshop wall like you used to see in the adverts, if it fell off
it could do some serious damage!
Brian
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John Miller
Dec 30, 2022, 7:45:48 PM12/30/22
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On 30/12/2022 08:36, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Mine had a step too, and was easy to put up and down as well. Maybe they
> over complicated it later on. It was heavy though, being mostly steel, but
> that made it all the more stable when in use. I'd certainly not want to hang
> it on the workshop wall like you used to see in the adverts, if it fell off
> it could do some serious damage!
>
> Brian
>
I've got one of the early heavy ones with the step, wouldn't be without
> Mine had a step too, and was easy to put up and down as well. Maybe they
> over complicated it later on. It was heavy though, being mostly steel, but
> that made it all the more stable when in use. I'd certainly not want to hang
> it on the workshop wall like you used to see in the adverts, if it fell off
> it could do some serious damage!
>
> Brian
>
it. Hangs on the wall and has done for the last 40 years or so. Made a
simple wooden bracket which the workmate plywood top slots into and it
has never moved.
alan_m
Dec 31, 2022, 2:42:16 AM12/31/22
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that I could get some spares for it on Ebay (plastic clips that held
the bottom legs in the open position and a long spring that retracted
the lever that allowed the workmate to open up). I did have to order
two packs of the plastic clips as I cracked one when drifting back the
metal pin that held it in place.
charles
Dec 31, 2022, 4:15:11 AM12/31/22
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In article <k1a7ek...@mid.individual.net>,
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alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 31/12/2022 00:45, John Miller wrote:
> > On 30/12/2022 08:36, Brian Gaff wrote:
> >> Mine had a step too, and was easy to put up and down as well. Maybe
> >> they over complicated it later on. It was heavy though, being mostly
> >> steel, but that made it all the more stable when in use. I'd
> >> certainly not want to hang it on the workshop wall like you used to
> >> see in the adverts, if it fell off it could do some serious damage!
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> > I've got one of the early heavy ones with the step, wouldn't be without
> > it. Hangs on the wall and has done for the last 40 years or so. Made a
> > simple wooden bracket which the workmate plywood top slots into and it
> > has never moved.
> I also have one of the early ones and was surprised a few years back
> that I could get some spares for it on Ebay (plastic clips that held
> the bottom legs in the open position
Mine has metal clips, so it's probably older
> On 31/12/2022 00:45, John Miller wrote:
> > On 30/12/2022 08:36, Brian Gaff wrote:
> >> Mine had a step too, and was easy to put up and down as well. Maybe
> >> they over complicated it later on. It was heavy though, being mostly
> >> steel, but that made it all the more stable when in use. I'd
> >> certainly not want to hang it on the workshop wall like you used to
> >> see in the adverts, if it fell off it could do some serious damage!
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> > I've got one of the early heavy ones with the step, wouldn't be without
> > it. Hangs on the wall and has done for the last 40 years or so. Made a
> > simple wooden bracket which the workmate plywood top slots into and it
> > has never moved.
> I also have one of the early ones and was surprised a few years back
> that I could get some spares for it on Ebay (plastic clips that held
> the bottom legs in the open position
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Chris Wolf
Dec 31, 2022, 7:57:09 AM12/31/22
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On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 4:15:11 AM UTC-5, charles wrote:
> Mine has metal clips, so it's probably older
Most of you are probably describing the Workmate model WM625, which has a blue-painted steel frame with a pair of pivoting cast-alloy H-frames in the center that accomplish the folding. It was made from 1975 to 1980, with some available on inventory closeouts into 1981 and 1982. The components used on it changed throughout the production run, with the change from metal to plastic leg clips coming on the WM625 E06. You can see the progression of the WM625 from E01 to E07Z here:
> Mine has metal clips, so it's probably older
https://h-frame.weebly.com/workmate-wm625.html
Its replacement, the very similar WM626, came on the market for Christmas 1979 with the main differentiator being the replacement of the cast alloy H-frames with painted stamped steel matching the rest of the blue frame.
--Chris
Check out H-frame, the site for vintage Black & Decker Workmates
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Andrew Gabriel
Dec 31, 2022, 8:28:21 AM12/31/22
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On 31/05/2020 12:05, Tricky Dicky wrote:
> The B&D workmate is certainly not an item that has improved over time. Compared to my original one the present one is a lot flimsier and full of sharp edges, I only use it these days in desperation.
Haven't looked at recent ones, but the quality of the jaws/vice rapidly
dropped as the product was revised.
My dad has the original cast ally one.
I have one of the early pressed steel ones, still good.
My brother has a newer pressed steel one (albeit quite old now)- jaws
made of ply with the strength of bolsawood.
That reminds me, lost one of the intermediate rubber feet from mine,
which I need to find a replacement.
Andrew
> The B&D workmate is certainly not an item that has improved over time. Compared to my original one the present one is a lot flimsier and full of sharp edges, I only use it these days in desperation.
Haven't looked at recent ones, but the quality of the jaws/vice rapidly
dropped as the product was revised.
My dad has the original cast ally one.
I have one of the early pressed steel ones, still good.
My brother has a newer pressed steel one (albeit quite old now)- jaws
made of ply with the strength of bolsawood.
That reminds me, lost one of the intermediate rubber feet from mine,
which I need to find a replacement.
Andrew
Tim Lamb
Dec 31, 2022, 9:09:52 AM12/31/22
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<and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> writes
At last count, I have 4 of various vintages. One actually purchased, the
remainder from skip diving or gifts from retiring carpenters.
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remainder from skip diving or gifts from retiring carpenters.
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pinnerite
Dec 31, 2022, 1:59:00 PM12/31/22
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I was using it today and will be again tomorrow.
Fantastic value for money.
Alan
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Chris Wolf
Dec 31, 2022, 4:26:25 PM12/31/22
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On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5, pinnerite wrote:
> I thought I was given mine before 1975.
> I was using it today and will be again tomorrow.
> Fantastic value for money.
The two dual-height models that were available in the UK before 1975 were the all-aluminum WM325 and the blue-all-steel WM525.
> I thought I was given mine before 1975.
> I was using it today and will be again tomorrow.
> Fantastic value for money.
https://h-frame.weebly.com/workmate-wm225wm325.html
https://h-frame.weebly.com/workmate-wm525.html
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