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Peter Andrews

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Apr 11, 2010, 7:27:36 AM4/11/10
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"Colin Harper" <colin...@x.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>I removed, for the first time since it was fitted by the electrician, a
>glass
> globe light shade from a light/fan assembly in our conservatory.
>
> The globe is secured by three screws which go through the metal frame and
> protrude into a lipped edge on the globe. As it came off, a rubber seal
> disintegrated into bits. This seal is, I imagine, intended to mitigate
> against the over-tightening of the retaining screws which would otherwise
> impact the glass directly and possibly shatter it.
>
> I didn't know what to do, so replaced it (the seal) with a thick rubber
> band
> before refitting the globe. This worked okay in that the screws rested on
> the
> rubber, not the glass, but in operation there is a very strong rubber
> smell,
> presumably the rubber band doesn't like the heat of the 60W lightbulb!
> What can I use as a replacement? The only thing that came to mind was to
> draw
> a bead of silicone sealer around where the seal goes, but I'm not sure how
> that would stand up to heat either.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Col
>

I confess that I've not seen a globe with a band as you describe - all the
globes I've come across didn't have any protection and I've not broken one
yet. Just be careful when tightening the screws, they don't need to be
tight on the glass simply supporting under the lip. Remove your band and try
it.

Peter


Dave Liquorice

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Apr 11, 2010, 7:22:18 AM4/11/10
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:04:49 +0100, Colin Harper wrote:

> The globe is secured by three screws which go through the metal frame
> and protrude into a lipped edge on the globe. As it came off, a rubber
> seal disintegrated into bits. This seal is, I imagine, intended to
> mitigate against the over-tightening of the retaining screws which would
> otherwise impact the glass directly and possibly shatter it.

Don't do the screws up tight, ensure the globe is free to move. Being
a fan as well it might then rattle or the screws work loose. Fairly
low possibilty of either provided the fan is properly balanced. There
is probably enough thread on the outside to fit a locking nut.

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Donwill

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Apr 11, 2010, 7:35:56 AM4/11/10
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On 11/04/2010 12:04, Colin Harper wrote:
> I removed, for the first time since it was fitted by the electrician, a glass
> globe light shade from a light/fan assembly in our conservatory.
>
> The globe is secured by three screws which go through the metal frame and
> protrude into a lipped edge on the globe. As it came off, a rubber seal
> disintegrated into bits. This seal is, I imagine, intended to mitigate
> against the over-tightening of the retaining screws which would otherwise
> impact the glass directly and possibly shatter it.
>
> I didn't know what to do, so replaced it (the seal) with a thick rubber band
> before refitting the globe. This worked okay in that the screws rested on the
> rubber, not the glass, but in operation there is a very strong rubber smell,
> presumably the rubber band doesn't like the heat of the 60W lightbulb!
> What can I use as a replacement? The only thing that came to mind was to draw
> a bead of silicone sealer around where the seal goes, but I'm not sure how
> that would stand up to heat either.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
I would try a silicone rubber O ring or gasket. Alternatively contact
the distributor.
Don

Steve Walker

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Apr 11, 2010, 7:44:57 AM4/11/10
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A little bit of glass fibre stove rope would provide some padding, if you
know where you can scrounge an inch or two?


Harry Bloomfield

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Apr 11, 2010, 9:55:55 AM4/11/10
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Steve Walker expressed precisely :

Would tap washer do it?

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The Medway Handyman

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Apr 11, 2010, 12:54:46 PM4/11/10
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Colin Harper wrote:
> I removed, for the first time since it was fitted by the electrician,
> a glass globe light shade from a light/fan assembly in our
> conservatory.
>
> The globe is secured by three screws which go through the metal frame
> and protrude into a lipped edge on the globe. As it came off, a
> rubber seal disintegrated into bits. This seal is, I imagine,
> intended to mitigate against the over-tightening of the retaining
> screws which would otherwise impact the glass directly and possibly
> shatter it.
>
> I didn't know what to do, so replaced it (the seal) with a thick
> rubber band before refitting the globe. This worked okay in that the
> screws rested on the rubber, not the glass, but in operation there is
> a very strong rubber smell, presumably the rubber band doesn't like
> the heat of the 60W lightbulb!

I've done exactly the same thing, but without the rubber smell. I wonder if
rubber bands vary somehow?

> What can I use as a replacement? The only thing that came to mind was
> to draw a bead of silicone sealer around where the seal goes, but I'm
> not sure how that would stand up to heat either.

I think silicone is pretty heat resistant.


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John

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Apr 11, 2010, 1:32:33 PM4/11/10
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"The Medway Handyman" <davi...@no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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What about an O Ring under each screw head? This would allow the glass to
expand.


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OG

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Apr 11, 2010, 4:53:04 PM4/11/10
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"Colin Harper" <colin...@x.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>I removed, for the first time since it was fitted by the electrician, a
>glass
> globe light shade from a light/fan assembly in our conservatory.
>
> The globe is secured by three screws which go through the metal frame and
> protrude into a lipped edge on the globe. As it came off, a rubber seal
> disintegrated into bits.

> presumably the rubber band doesn't like the heat of the 60W lightbulb!


> What can I use as a replacement?

20W CFLs wouldn't get so hot.


Dave Liquorice

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Apr 11, 2010, 5:05:03 PM4/11/10
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:53:04 +0100, OG wrote:

>> presumably the rubber band doesn't like the heat of the 60W
lightbulb!
>> What can I use as a replacement?
>
> 20W CFLs wouldn't get so hot.

But don't like being in an effectively sealed space, they might not
run as hot as a 60W incandescant but the heat they do produce does
need to get away. The only CFL that we have fail regulary(*) is the
one in the bathroom globe light fitting...

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SS

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Apr 11, 2010, 6:26:26 PM4/11/10
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"Colin Harper" <colin...@x.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:53:04 +0100, OG wrote
> (in article <82er5...@mid.individual.net>):
> The lighbulb is a little 60W SBC globe thing. I don't know if you can get
> CFLs that small, but I've not found one. BC variants which claim to be
> that
> small wouldn't fit, and I've not found one in SBC anyway. Plus, I like to
> be
> able to see when I turn on a light. Not have to pre-turn it on 20 minutes
> before I actually need to be able to see :-)
>
> --
> Col
>
Silicone sealant is often used when refitting an exhaust to a motorbike so
wouldnt worry about it being heat resistant, another matter if you want to
use it in preference to the other ideas posted.


James Salisbury

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Apr 11, 2010, 6:45:58 PM4/11/10
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Hi,
One tip you may do well to avoid the acetic acid based silicone sealants
as these may eat the copper.. try
http://uk.farnell.com/loctite/1705055/sealant-tempflex-5145-40ml/dp/3072393?Ntt=tempflex
or
http://uk.farnell.com/dow-corning/227109/rtv-silicone-744-white-90ml/dp/521826

Dave

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Apr 12, 2010, 2:39:57 PM4/12/10
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That will be an entirely different silicone. Most can only survive up to
about 220 %C

Dave

Colin Wilson

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Apr 18, 2010, 12:59:49 AM4/18/10
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> The globe is secured by three screws which go through the metal frame and
> protrude into a lipped edge on the globe. As it came off, a rubber seal
> disintegrated into bits.

We had one like it - I think the rubber band was to try to
mitigate the rattling when the fan was in use

Bz

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Mar 12, 2023, 1:45:07 PM3/12/23
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I just took my globes off of my ceiling fan and have the same problem. A small gasket on each that has crumbled.

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Animal

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Mar 12, 2023, 6:07:10 PM3/12/23
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On Sunday, 12 March 2023 at 17:45:07 UTC, Bz wrote:
> I just took my globes off of my ceiling fan and have the same problem. A small gasket on each that has crumbled.

Almost any large enough rubber band will do. Without one they rattle - don't tighten the screws!

Brian Gaff

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Mar 13, 2023, 8:16:26 AM3/13/23
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I wonder how old the original post was?
Anyway, I think before you use elastic bands, make sure they are in good
condition, and if you can put a layer or f something like castor oil on
them, as they will perish faster without it in my experience. Some of these
lamps have a little trough for an O ring to be used, so you may be able to
obtain those if they are a standard size.
Brian

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Jeff Layman

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Mar 13, 2023, 9:02:09 AM3/13/23
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The post was made 11 April 2010

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