Re: Where get cheapest methylated spirits?

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runlikethewind

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Mar 3, 2005, 7:51:57 AM3/3/05

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"pete" <pe...@maildox.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:34:37 GMT, Bill Woods <woo...@emercom.com> wrote:
>
>>I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
>>to buy a couple of litres.
>>
>>At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
>>£1.75 / 500ml.
>
> Next time you or a friend of yours goes to France, get a few 5 litres from
> a
> hypermarket. Only about £3 for the 5 litre container.

Problem!!!

you're not allowed to carry it by Ferry, Eurotunnel or Air!, unless you
swim across with it.

Duncan Wood

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:03:38 AM3/3/05

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:34:37 GMT, Bill Woods <woo...@emercom.com> wrote:

> I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
> to buy a couple of litres.
>
> At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
> £1.75 / 500ml.
>

> I don't see meths listed online at any of the websites for Homebase,
> Focus or B&Q. Do these DIY chains actually stock meths and what do
> they charge?
>
> Or maybe there are cheaper places to buy meths?
>
> ALternatively I am told that ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL (also
> called ISOPROPANOL) is a good cleaner but the only place I have seen
> it is the chemists and they charge handsomely for it! Maybe there is
> a cheapish source for ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL?

I normally pay over £5/litre for IPA & if you don't have adequate
ventilation you get the hangover from hell.
Cheapest place to buy meths is your local decoraters suppliers or copying
suppliers (copying spirit)
http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/b/BIRMETHS/

Steve Antony Williams

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:06:17 AM3/3/05

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"Bill Woods" <woo...@emercom.com> wrote in message
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> I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
> to buy a couple of litres.
>
> At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
> £1.75 / 500ml.

£1.75 doesn't strike me as expensive, and it strikes me as one of those
"much the same price wherever you go" type of things

DrSteveW

Grunff

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:19:52 AM3/3/05

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Duncan Wood wrote:

> I normally pay over £5/litre for IPA

That sounds pretty steep, especially if you use it in any quantity. I
pay ~£6-7 per winchester (2.5l).

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Phil

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:18:32 AM3/3/05

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Petrol is only 80p a litre.....

Ash

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:38:12 AM3/3/05

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"Bill Woods" <woo...@emercom.com> wrote in message
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>I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
> to buy a couple of litres.
>
> At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
> £1.75 / 500ml.
>

> I don't see meths listed online at any of the websites for Homebase,
> Focus or B&Q. Do these DIY chains actually stock meths and what do
> they charge?
>
> Or maybe there are cheaper places to buy meths?
>
> ALternatively I am told that ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL (also
> called ISOPROPANOL) is a good cleaner but the only place I have seen
> it is the chemists and they charge handsomely for it! Maybe there is
> a cheapish source for ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL?

I bought a couple of half litre bottles a couple of weeks ago (use it in
Trangia Stoves). Went first to Boots, they had none in stock. The
independent chemist opposite had it at £1.25 a bottle.

Ash

Mary Fisher

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:38:48 AM3/3/05

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"Bill Woods" <woo...@emercom.com> wrote in message
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>I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
> to buy a couple of litres.

I use soap.

Mary

Duncan Wood

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:43:09 AM3/3/05

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I don't use very much :-) Where do you get yours?

Grunff

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Mar 3, 2005, 8:57:15 AM3/3/05

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Duncan Wood wrote:

> I don't use very much :-) Where do you get yours?

A lab chemicals supplier - they will supply to the public, but you need
to order 4 winchesters at a time (so that's about £30).

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Dale Grimsley

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Mar 3, 2005, 9:05:38 AM3/3/05

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Anyone know a stockist that keeps it in the fridge as it isn't the same at
room temperature

LOL !!!

Dale

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Bob Mannix

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Mar 3, 2005, 9:14:44 AM3/3/05

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"Bill Woods" <woo...@emercom.com> wrote in message
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> I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
> to buy a couple of litres.
>

> At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
> £1.75 / 500ml.
>
> I don't see meths listed online at any of the websites for Homebase,
> Focus or B&Q. Do these DIY chains actually stock meths and what do
> they charge?

Only half an answer I'm afraid - yes they sell it, I bought some in B&Q the
other day (next to the white spirit). I would be very suprised if it was
cheaper than £1.75/500ml though.

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Stuart

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Mar 3, 2005, 9:25:59 AM3/3/05

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:34:37 GMT, Bill Woods <woo...@emercom.com>
wrote:

>I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want

>to buy a couple of litres.
>
>At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
>£1.75 / 500ml.
>
>I don't see meths listed online at any of the websites for Homebase,
>Focus or B&Q. Do these DIY chains actually stock meths and what do
>they charge?
>

>Or maybe there are cheaper places to buy meths?
>
>ALternatively I am told that ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL (also
>called ISOPROPANOL) is a good cleaner but the only place I have seen
>it is the chemists and they charge handsomely for it! Maybe there is
>a cheapish source for ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL?

http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/b/BIRMETHS/
If you buy 5 litres it is £10.89 so thats £1.09 per 500ml but there
will be delivery costs on top unfortunately...
http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/h/HELPDEL/
so your only slightly better off..
Stuart

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use...@isbd.co.uk

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Mar 3, 2005, 10:07:26 AM3/3/05

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Now there's a helpful comment! :-)

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runlikethewind

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Mar 3, 2005, 10:32:06 AM3/3/05

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> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:51:57 GMT, "runlikethewind" <p...@pip.com> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>Problem!!!
>>
>>you're not allowed to carry it by Ferry, Eurotunnel or Air!, unless you
>>swim across with it.
>>
>>

> I brought 20 litres back last month.

Better hope you don't get caught then!!!!

Mary Fisher

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Mar 3, 2005, 10:47:29 AM3/3/05

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Well it's cheaper and safer than meths and very good at cleaning - that's
what it's designed for :-)

Mary
>
> --
> Chris Green

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Mar 3, 2005, 10:56:07 AM3/3/05

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pete wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:34:37 GMT, Bill Woods <woo...@emercom.com>
wrote:
>

> >I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I
want
> >to buy a couple of litres.
> >

> >At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
> >£1.75 / 500ml.
>

> Next time you or a friend of yours goes to France, get a few 5 litres
from a
> hypermarket. Only about £3 for the 5 litre container.

I use thinners when I need a powerful cleaning solvent.

Comes in at under a tenner for 5 litres from a trade paint supplier ..

Cheers

Paul.

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nightjar

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Mar 3, 2005, 1:01:31 PM3/3/05

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> Which current regulation (Act, Chapter etc) are you on about?

The terms and conditions that you accept when you buy a ticket to cross the
channel on any carrier, plus Section 52 of the Air Navigation Order if you
are flying, whether in a private aircraft or on a carrier.

Colin Bignell

Guy King

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Mar 3, 2005, 2:50:26 PM3/3/05

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> > >I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
> > > to buy a couple of litres.
> >
> > I use soap.
> >
> Now there's a helpful comment! :-)

Made me snigger!

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In message <1109855912.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Phil
<philip_b...@yahoo.com> writes

>Petrol is only 80p a litre.....
>

Tastes awful though

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raden

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Mar 3, 2005, 4:49:41 PM3/3/05

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Some party !

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Mark W

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Mar 3, 2005, 5:25:11 PM3/3/05

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>
> In teh sasme veind, anyine know where to get 5l of ACETONE withouit having
> to prove I am a vicar or definitely NOT refiniong cociane or something?

hairdressers' / beauty salons' wholesaler?

Mary Fisher

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Mar 3, 2005, 5:44:45 PM3/3/05

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It appears that what he's on is having the desired effect ...

Mary
>

Roger

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Mar 3, 2005, 5:54:13 PM3/3/05

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> In teh sasme veind, anyine know where to get 5l of ACETONE withouit
> having to prove I am a vicar or definitely NOT refiniong cociane or
> something?

I got a gallon can 25 years ago from Strand Glass but no idea whether it
is still available. Let me know if you find a source. I have some
fibreglass repairs I have to do some time and my can rusted through and
I lost whatever was still in it.

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Owain

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Mar 3, 2005, 6:04:21 PM3/3/05

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raden wrote:
>> Petrol is only 80p a litre.....
> Tastes awful though

One way of enforcing no-smoking in the office loos

Owain

Derek

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Mar 3, 2005, 7:03:27 PM3/3/05

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> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:32:06 GMT, "runlikethewind" <p...@pip.com> wrote:
>
> >

> Which current regulation (Act, Chapter etc) are you on about?

He may be misquoting this from P&O
iii) Unless we give you prior written permission (which shall always be at
our sole discretion), you may not bring with you any firearms or other
weapons of any nature or substances of an explosive or hazardous nature. You
may carry inflammable substances only in limited quantities and in
accordance with our instructions and permission.

Since carriers (that would include me btw) safely move dangerous goods daily
there are regulations to comply with in this case IMDG usually it means the
goods are OK in small quantities in approved and marked containers and with
information as to what to do in case of a spillage
DW

Paul R

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Mar 3, 2005, 7:33:40 PM3/3/05

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I buy my Meths at Wilkinsons (Wilko), and if memory serves me well, it was
£0.99 for 500mL.

Paul R

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The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 3, 2005, 9:59:08 PM3/3/05

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Mark W wrote:

Nope. They tend to use 250mol bottles ONLY.

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 3, 2005, 10:01:24 PM3/3/05

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Roger wrote:

Well I found 500ml here http://www.fibretechgb.co.uk/DefaultHome.htm for
£3.50.which isn't too bad. I'll get some next time I buy carbon fibre...

Rob Morley

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Mar 3, 2005, 10:34:10 PM3/3/05

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In article <110988481...@demeter.uk.clara.net>, "The Natural
Philosopher" A@b.c says...

http://www.resin-supplies.co.uk/Pricelist.htm
or similar?

use...@isbd.co.uk

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Mar 4, 2005, 3:38:35 AM3/4/05

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In uk.d-i-y Mary Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <use...@isbd.co.uk> wrote in message news:38onheF...@individual.net...
> > In uk.d-i-y Mary Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Bill Woods" <woo...@emercom.com> wrote in message
> >> news:960E7FF0E...@130.133.1.4...
> >> >I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
> >> > to buy a couple of litres.
> >>
> >> I use soap.
> >>
> > Now there's a helpful comment! :-)
>
> Well it's cheaper and safer than meths and very good at cleaning - that's
> what it's designed for :-)
>

For some things maybe but there are applications for which some sort of
alcohol is by far the best cleaning agent. I made what I thought
was a reasonable assumption that the OP had a specific cleaning
requirement that needed alcohol and that he wasn't just washing his
hands with it.

--
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Mar 4, 2005, 4:02:06 AM3/4/05

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Soap is a wetting agent and is not a good cleaner and it doesn't kill germs
either.
That is why soap powders have been replaced by detergents as they are far
better at cleaning.

Meths isn't very good at cleaning either, it is a solvent and you have to
keep diluting and then removing the solution.
There are better degreasers (for example) but they are a bit more dangerous
in the wrong hands.

Meths is still useful as antifreeze in the windscreen washers but it can
attack the wiper rubbers.

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 4, 2005, 5:44:48 AM3/4/05

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Rob Morley wrote:

>>In teh sasme veind, anyine know where to get 5l of ACETONE withouit
>>having to prove I am a vicar or definitely NOT refiniong cociane or
>>something?
>>
>
> http://www.resin-supplies.co.uk/Pricelist.htm
> or similar?

MAGIC!!!

Steve Walker

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Mar 4, 2005, 6:58:36 AM3/4/05

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In message <iuVVd.28134$8B3....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"dennis@work" <den...@killspam.kicksass.net> writes

>Meths isn't very good at cleaning either, it is a solvent and you have to
>keep diluting and then removing the solution.
>There are better degreasers (for example) but they are a bit more dangerous
>in the wrong hands.

The useful thing about alcohol-based solvents is that they are miscible
with both water and organic compounds.

--
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Guy King

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Mar 4, 2005, 8:26:35 AM3/4/05

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The message <b+FNjURr...@ntlworld.com>
from raden <ra...@kateda.org> contains these words:

> >Petrol is only 80p a litre.....
> >
> Tastes awful though

Has a better nose than brake-fluid.

Andy Dingley

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Mar 4, 2005, 8:41:17 AM3/4/05

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It was somewhere outside Barstow when Bill Woods <woo...@emercom.com>
wrote:

>I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I want
>to buy a couple of litres.

Anyone got a source for undyed meths without the pyridine ? I'm
using it as a solvent for shellac in french polishing. I can live with
the methanol, but the stench of pyridine is horrible.

Price not really an issue !

At the moment I'm using pure (sic) ethanol, which is a royal pain to
get hold of.

doozer

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Mar 4, 2005, 9:17:12 AM3/4/05

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I would say the best place to source it would probably be dedicated
chemical supplier. Some will show to private individuals but be prepared
to buy a fair amount. You will be able to get everything from MS grade
ethanol (very expensive) to cheap slosh-it-round-glassware grade which
will probably only be denatured with methanol. Even the cheap stuff will
come with a breakdown of it's contents.

Maybe try Sigma Aldrich (www.sigmaaldrich.com).

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Mar 4, 2005, 6:05:47 PM3/4/05

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In fact, routed through Wilkinsons today and it is in fact £1.19 for 500mL.
Paul R

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The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 4, 2005, 8:23:27 PM3/4/05

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Dave Liquorice wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:10:57 GMT, raden wrote:
>
>
>>>Meths is still useful as antifreeze in the windscreen washers
>>
>>But mostly glycol
>
>
> Glycol in the cooling system. Methanol in the washers.
>

I thought it was isopropyl mainly.

basil

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Mar 5, 2005, 2:38:23 AM3/5/05

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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:37:32 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<new...@howhill.com> wrote:

>Methanol in the washers.

That is what monkeys are after when you see them sucking on the washer
nozzles in safari parks. The drivers usualy oblige with a squirt.

tby

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Mar 5, 2005, 5:28:20 AM3/5/05

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> Or maybe there are cheaper places to buy meths?<

Theres a guy here in Oxford who sells The Big Issue and
who has a dog on a string and a hole in his trousers who
always seems to have a lot of it available...............

Clive

Oxford UK

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"Bill Woods" <woo...@emercom.com> wrote in message
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> I use METHYLATED SPIRITS as a cleaner in the home and garage. I
want
> to buy a couple of litres.
>
> At present my local hardware shop sells it for a rather expensive
> £1.75 / 500ml.
>

Dave Liquorice

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Mar 5, 2005, 7:00:34 AM3/5/05

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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:23:27 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>> Glycol in the cooling system. Methanol in the washers.
>
> I thought it was isopropyl mainly.

What ever, it isn't glycol which is the point. I'm not going out to
the garage to look at my container to see what particular alcohol it
has in it...

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 5, 2005, 7:30:40 AM3/5/05

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Dave Liquorice wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:23:27 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>
>>>Glycol in the cooling system. Methanol in the washers.
>>
>>I thought it was isopropyl mainly.
>
>
> What ever, it isn't glycol which is the point. I'm not going out to
> the garage to look at my container to see what particular alcohol it
> has in it...
>

Actually its about the cheapest way to buy ispopropyl alcohol, which is
one of the nicest cleaners aroudn - very unaggressive -for cleaning PC
keytboards and screens etc.

Another Dave

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Mar 5, 2005, 10:37:58 AM3/5/05

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Bill Woods wrote:
>>> In teh sasme veind, anyine know where to get 5l of ACETONE withouit
> having to prove I am a vicar or definitely NOT refiniong cociane or
> something?

I thought you used Ether for refining cocaine.

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Mar 5, 2005, 10:37:28 AM3/5/05

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In article <110988481...@demeter.uk.clara.net>, The Natural Philosopher

<URL:mailto:A@b.c> wrote:
>
> In teh sasme veind, anyine know where to get 5l of ACETONE withouit
> having to prove I am a vicar or definitely NOT refiniong cociane or
> something?

I have just bought the very same from a fibreglass vendor, CFS. Telephone
01209 821028. I have purchased polyester resin too and I have never used
such high quality resin. It flows and wets incredibly well, dries in a
sensible time and isn't sticky when cured. The service and prices are also
excellent in my opinion.

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Mar 5, 2005, 11:23:25 AM3/5/05

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Another Dave wrote:

> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Bill Woods wrote:
>>
>>>> In teh sasme veind, anyine know where to get 5l of ACETONE withouit
>>
>> having to prove I am a vicar or definitely NOT refiniong cociane or
>> something?
>
>
> I thought you used Ether for refining cocaine.
>

Shows how littel I know about it doesn't it.

4square

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Mar 5, 2005, 7:01:59 PM3/5/05

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Most French supermarkets have it in one litre bottles.

raden

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Mar 5, 2005, 8:26:50 PM3/5/05

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In message <1110065397.1...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
4square <cord...@whsmithnet.co.uk> writes

>Most French supermarkets have it in one litre bottles.
>

Vin de table ?

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robkg...@lineone.net

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Mar 6, 2005, 4:06:26 AM3/6/05

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Worth posting this question on this site as they are all wood workers.

http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/

Dave Liquorice

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Mar 6, 2005, 3:29:49 AM3/6/05

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 01:26:50 GMT, raden wrote:

>> Most French supermarkets have it in one litre bottles.
>
> Vin de table ?

Thought that was glycol again... Oh that was Austrian wasn't it? Not
French.

Ian Johnston

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Mar 6, 2005, 4:35:24 AM3/6/05

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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:15:39 UTC, The Natural Philosopher <A@b.c>
wrote:

: In teh sasme veind, anyine know where to get 5l of ACETONE withouit
: having to prove I am a vicar or definitely NOT refiniong cociane or
: something?

Glass fibre suppliers.

Ian

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Mar 6, 2005, 2:16:50 PM3/6/05

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In message <nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@news.howhill.com>, Dave
Liquorice <new...@howhill.com> writes

>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 01:26:50 GMT, raden wrote:
>
>>> Most French supermarkets have it in one litre bottles.
>>
>> Vin de table ?
>
>Thought that was glycol again... Oh that was Austrian wasn't it? Not
>French.
>

It's happened in both France and Italy too AFAIK

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