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Roger Mills

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Aug 26, 2006, 6:34:42 PM8/26/06
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I bought some of this today at a car boot sale for a knock-down price, and
am trying to work out the spec!

It is an expensive-looking track system which takes plug-in spot light
units - each of which consists of a transformer and a holder for a 12v
halogen bulb. The bulbholders say Max 50 watts - but there's no rating on
the transformer bit! The plug-in units appear to be of several different
vintages, and say "Mk 16 LT9008" or "Mk 14 LT8228" or "Mk 14 LT8224".

Are there any proud owners of similar equipment out there who can shed any
light on what these numbers mean? Since the lampholders are integrated with
the transformers it seems likely that the transformers are rated for 50
watts - but I'm not 100% certain.
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UNDIES*@blueyonder.co.uk Tim Morley

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Aug 27, 2006, 5:05:26 AM8/27/06
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"Roger Mills" <watt....@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Owned by Sylvania Lighting (Now SLI-Lighting)

Strangely Lumiance and Concord are now across 2 different ranges (Lumiance,
or Concord:Marlin)
Looking here (http://www.lumiance-lighting.com/) I cannot find the range. So
I assume its an old range. I would try contacting them directly.

Contacts » United Kingdom
Lumiance
For General Information:

Lumiance
Avis Way,
NEWHAVEN,
East Sussex
BN9 0ED

T 0870 2410 802
F 0870 2410 803
lumiance...@sylvania-lighting.com

Roger Mills

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Aug 27, 2006, 3:35:50 PM8/27/06
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

Tim Morley <tim.morley*REMOVE UNDIES*@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>>
>
> Owned by Sylvania Lighting (Now SLI-Lighting)
>
> Strangely Lumiance and Concord are now across 2 different ranges
> (Lumiance, or Concord:Marlin)
> Looking here (http://www.lumiance-lighting.com/) I cannot find the
> range. So I assume its an old range. I would try contacting them
> directly.
> Contacts » United Kingdom
> Lumiance
> For General Information:
>
> Lumiance
> Avis Way,
> NEWHAVEN,
> East Sussex
> BN9 0ED
>
> T 0870 2410 802
> F 0870 2410 803
> lumiance...@sylvania-lighting.com

Thanks - that's useful. There was a leaflet with one of the tracks, giving a
Malmesbury address (and a pre-'ONE-day' phone number!) but I can't find them
in Malmesbury using Directory Enquiries. I'll send an email to the above
address.

Thanks again.

UNDIES*@blueyonder.co.uk Tim Morley

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Aug 27, 2006, 5:48:49 PM8/27/06
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"Roger Mills" <watt....@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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No worries, I recognised the name as my brother works for SLI, (No not the
same "deparment")


Dave Plowman (News)

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Aug 27, 2006, 8:06:25 PM8/27/06
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In article <4lc0jrF...@individual.net>,

Roger Mills <watt....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> It is an expensive-looking track system which takes plug-in spot light
> units - each of which consists of a transformer and a holder for a 12v
> halogen bulb. The bulbholders say Max 50 watts - but there's no rating
> on the transformer bit! The plug-in units appear to be of several
> different vintages, and say "Mk 16 LT9008" or "Mk 14 LT8228" or "Mk 14
> LT8224".

Early halogen bulbs were only 50 watts IIRC.

Rotaflex Concord - if it's the same company - used to sell superbly made
stuff that lasts forever. Probably why they're not around now?

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Andrew Gabriel

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Aug 27, 2006, 8:37:14 PM8/27/06
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In article <4e5d358...@davenoise.co.uk>,

"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> writes:
> Rotaflex Concord - if it's the same company - used to sell superbly made
> stuff that lasts forever. Probably why they're not around now?

Indeed. Somewhere I've got a Rotaflex lighting catalogue from the
1960's, and there's no one making such high quality lighting today.
Merchant Adventurers was another excellent make from that era.
My parents still have some fittings from these companies which
must be 40 years old, and still in the same condition as when
brand new. They certainly weren't cheap at the time though.

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Roger Mills

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Aug 28, 2006, 11:23:27 AM8/28/06
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <4lc0jrF...@individual.net>,
> Roger Mills <watt....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> It is an expensive-looking track system which takes plug-in spot
>> light units - each of which consists of a transformer and a holder
>> for a 12v halogen bulb. The bulbholders say Max 50 watts - but
>> there's no rating on the transformer bit! The plug-in units appear
>> to be of several different vintages, and say "Mk 16 LT9008" or "Mk
>> 14 LT8228" or "Mk 14 LT8224".
>
> Early halogen bulbs were only 50 watts IIRC.
>
> Rotaflex Concord - if it's the same company - used to sell superbly
> made stuff that lasts forever. Probably why they're not around now?

It should be ok to use 50 watt lamps, then? In fact, if the transformers are
electronic, they may not like running at a lower load than this - such as
20W or 35W. I've emailed the company for information - but am not expecting
a reply on a bank holiday!

There's no mention of 'Rotaflex' on the stuff I've got - just 'Lumiance',
'Concord' and 'Spotline'.

In case anyone recognises it, here is a photo of a bit a track plus one of
the integrated transformer/bulb-holder units.
http://www.mills37.plus.com/concord.JPG

Dave Plowman (News)

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Aug 28, 2006, 2:13:34 PM8/28/06
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In article <4lgg3hF...@individual.net>,

Roger Mills <watt....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Early halogen bulbs were only 50 watts IIRC.
> >
> > Rotaflex Concord - if it's the same company - used to sell superbly
> > made stuff that lasts forever. Probably why they're not around now?

> It should be ok to use 50 watt lamps, then? In fact, if the transformers
> are electronic, they may not like running at a lower load than this -
> such as 20W or 35W. I've emailed the company for information - but am
> not expecting a reply on a bank holiday!

Ah - if electronic transformers ignore the 'early halogen bulbs' bit.

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