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Mark Lewis

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Aug 27, 2010, 5:11:27 AM8/27/10
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The spring has broken on one of our internal door handles. Is there
anyone who repairs them?

I can buy a new pair of handles for about 20 quid, but would pay up to
50 to get this one repaired, as new handles will not match the others in
the house and I would need to drill new screw holes. The originals are
c1965 so not much chance of getting exact replacements.

The handle does not appear to be user repairable, it looks like you
would have to remove a retaining metal ring and then replace the
internal spring, presumably a job for a suitably tooled expert. Do they
exist?

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Mark Lewis, North Somerset

1501

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Aug 27, 2010, 5:25:57 AM8/27/10
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Any chance of a photo to explain it better?

Andy Dingley

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Aug 27, 2010, 6:06:27 AM8/27/10
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On 27 Aug, 10:11, Mark Lewis <newsREM...@hbar.co.uk> wrote:
> The spring has broken on one of our internal door handles. Is there
> anyone who repairs them?

I've been known to fix mine, when I wanted to keep the original one.

I've not found a source for replacement springs (the old hairpin sort
OTOH are still around in dusty boxes at the back of ancient hardware
stores), so mine were taken off other handles that were lurking around
in the shed (and cheap handles are cheap). They don't have to be a
perfect fit. Diameter is usually consistent (or near enough), it's the
angle between the end fittings that's crucial.

You might be able to screw the spring into place over the retaining
clip. If the clip has two small holes in the ends, it's quite easy to
remove and replace it neatly - but you'll need a pair of external
circlip pliers. If it doesn't have these, it's probably soft metal
(aluminium isn't unusual) and these are a sod to get off and on
without putting a crimp into the back so they won't re-install. I've
usually replaced these with steel circlips, taken from the same handle
I took the springs off.

The Natural Philosopher

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Aug 27, 2010, 6:15:37 AM8/27/10
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Depending on the exact construction you can make a new spring or pirate
a cheap mechanism for one.

A picture would help.

If its a simple wire spring its a piece of piss to bend wire with a vice
and a pair of pliers...

Mark Lewis

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Aug 27, 2010, 6:44:27 AM8/27/10
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On 27/08/2010 11:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> A picture would help.

For all handle fetishists:

http://hbar.co.uk/pictures/

These are the closest replacements I could find:

http://www.topclasscarpentry.com/product/59355/

Finish is not very good. Can you find any better? Backplate measures
10cm x 4cm.

The Natural Philosopher

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Aug 27, 2010, 7:19:18 AM8/27/10
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Ok. ISTR that sort have a square section spring?
Which means pirating something.

Best bet is to pop the circlip off, dismantle into parts and photo again.


Dave Osborne

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Aug 27, 2010, 7:20:16 AM8/27/10
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You can get them (springs) from your local locksmith or key cutting
place. They may have to get them to order, so there will probably be an
embuggeration charge, so you might want to order a slack handful. They
should be in the order of £1 to £1.50 each. It pays to ring round before
travelling.

NW Keys are (basically) trade only, and they will only deal with joe
public from their retail key-cutting counter in Liverpool, but there's
some photo's on their website:

http://www.nwkeys.co.uk/Portal.aspx?page=29&kwd=spring

As to fitting the new spring, you're on your own ( as would a locksmith
be) to find a way of dismantling/reassembling the handle.

It's worth noting that you can buy latches of various qualities with
different spring strengths, so at a pinch, you may be able to replace
the latch with a stronger one to compensate for the weak/broken handle
(this would be a bodge, obviously) ;-)

dennis@home

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Aug 27, 2010, 8:01:43 AM8/27/10
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"Mark Lewis" <newsR...@hbar.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 27/08/2010 11:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> A picture would help.
>
> For all handle fetishists:
>
> http://hbar.co.uk/pictures/
>
> These are the closest replacements I could find:
>
> http://www.topclasscarpentry.com/product/59355/

Did you get TMH to take those?
You can't see anything of the spring, etc.

Phil

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Aug 27, 2010, 8:55:57 AM8/27/10
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On 27 Aug, 10:11, Mark Lewis <newsREM...@hbar.co.uk> wrote:

Dismantle, remove spring.
Hope its broken near one end.
Re-bend the broken end to resemble the broken off bit.
Re-assemble.

PeterC

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Aug 27, 2010, 9:13:19 AM8/27/10
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It's fuzzy logic, but not as we know it.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

Dave Liquorice

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Aug 27, 2010, 9:19:16 AM8/27/10
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:44:27 +0100, Mark Lewis wrote:

> For all handle fetishists

I *might* have some of those complete with unbroken springs lurking
in the garage removed from old doors. Squirreled away as they are ali
and could be weighed in with all the other scrap bits of
ali/brass/copper etc, when I get the tuit...

I'll have a look later.

--
Cheers
Dave.

John Rumm

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Aug 27, 2010, 1:57:48 PM8/27/10
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On 27/08/2010 10:11, Mark Lewis wrote:

> The spring has broken on one of our internal door handles. Is there
> anyone who repairs them?

If its the traditional open coiled flat spring with a lug on each end,
then you can certainly get them as spares.

> The handle does not appear to be user repairable, it looks like you
> would have to remove a retaining metal ring and then replace the
> internal spring, presumably a job for a suitably tooled expert. Do they
> exist?

The ones I have seen usually have a circlip that retains the spring. A
pair of circlip pliers help to remove the clip, but then its quite easy.


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Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm

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Aug 27, 2010, 2:04:59 PM8/27/10
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On 27/08/2010 12:20, Dave Osborne wrote:
> Mark Lewis wrote:
>> The spring has broken on one of our internal door handles. Is there
>> anyone who repairs them?
>>
>> I can buy a new pair of handles for about 20 quid, but would pay up to
>> 50 to get this one repaired, as new handles will not match the others
>> in the house and I would need to drill new screw holes. The originals
>> are c1965 so not much chance of getting exact replacements.
>>
>> The handle does not appear to be user repairable, it looks like you
>> would have to remove a retaining metal ring and then replace the
>> internal spring, presumably a job for a suitably tooled expert. Do
>> they exist?
>>
>
> You can get them (springs) from your local locksmith or key cutting
> place. They may have to get them to order, so there will probably be an
> embuggeration charge, so you might want to order a slack handful. They
> should be in the order of £1 to £1.50 each. It pays to ring round before
> travelling.

Here are some of the ones I was thinking of:

http://www.thehandleshop.co.uk/shop/9/74/index.htm

John Rumm

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Aug 27, 2010, 2:14:04 PM8/27/10
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On 27/08/2010 10:11, Mark Lewis wrote:
> The spring has broken on one of our internal door handles. Is there
> anyone who repairs them?

more here:

http://www.johnstonestools.co.uk/acatalog/Door_handle_Spirings.html#aB21R

Mike Barnes

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Aug 27, 2010, 6:10:42 PM8/27/10
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Mark Lewis <newsR...@hbar.co.uk>:

>On 27/08/2010 11:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> A picture would help.
>
>For all handle fetishists:
>
>http://hbar.co.uk/pictures/

It's difficult to tell from the photo but I suspect the disc is held in
place by a circlip. A pair of circlip pliers will make the job easy and
need not cost a lot.

--
Mike Barnes

Dave Baker

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Aug 28, 2010, 10:42:24 AM8/28/10
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"Mark Lewis" <newsR...@hbar.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 27/08/2010 11:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> A picture would help.
>
> For all handle fetishists:
>
> http://hbar.co.uk/pictures/

They are almost identical to the handles in my own house. A slightly
different casting internally but the same size, same 3 screw fitment and
similar spring mechanism. I have a redundant pair somewhere that came off an
old door which I might be able to find if you have no luck elsewhere.
--
Dave Baker


harry

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Aug 28, 2010, 12:46:49 PM8/28/10
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On 27 Aug, 10:11, Mark Lewis <newsREM...@hbar.co.uk> wrote:

Most handles are reversible & the metal clip has to come off to
reverse the mechanism. Usually an external circlip. You can buy
circlip pliers at Halfords to do this. Or Screwfix.

Dave Liquorice

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Aug 28, 2010, 3:34:21 PM8/28/10
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:42:24 +0100, Dave Baker wrote:

> They are almost identical to the handles in my own house. A slightly
> different casting internally but the same size, same 3 screw fitment and
> similar spring mechanism.

Had a look at what I have in the garage, close but 4 or 2 screw
fixing. One has a proper circlip the other just a C clip (ie no holes
for circlip plier prongs).

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Cheers
Dave.

Mr. Fix It

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Dec 16, 2013, 3:42:56 PM12/16/13
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Hi Mark,

Changing the spring in a door handle is quite simple provided you buy some circlip pliers (cost £2 to £3 for a cheap pair). Circlip pliers remove the 'metal retaining ring' or circlip. The following website has a good selection of springs

http://www.doorhandlesprings.co.uk/

They also have step by step instructions on how to do it

http://www.doorhandlesprings.co.uk/info/How_to_Fix_a_Door_Handle

Cheers,
Stuart.

ss

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Dec 16, 2013, 4:52:42 PM12/16/13
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5 minute job to change the spring, as previous poster stated a cheap
pair of circlip pliers. As for the springs I took the old broken one
and measured dimensions and scanned it and emailed some companies. I
think I paid around �4 for 4 springs a couple of years back. May also be
available on ebay.

Vir Campestris

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Dec 16, 2013, 4:53:09 PM12/16/13
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On 16/12/2013 20:42, Mr. Fix It wrote:
> On Friday, August 27, 2010 10:11:27 AM UTC+1, Mark Lewis wrote:
>> The spring has broken on one of our internal door handles. Is there
>> anyone who repairs them?
>>
>> I can buy a new pair of handles for about 20 quid, but would pay up to
>> 50 to get this one repaired, as new handles will not match the others in
>> the house and I would need to drill new screw holes. The originals are
>> c1965 so not much chance of getting exact replacements.
>>
>> The handle does not appear to be user repairable, it looks like you
>> would have to remove a retaining metal ring and then replace the
>> internal spring, presumably a job for a suitably tooled expert. Do they
>> exist?
>>
>> --
>> Mark Lewis, North Somerset
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Changing the spring in a door handle is quite simple provided you buy some circlip pliers (cost �2 to �3 for a cheap pair). Circlip pliers remove the 'metal retaining ring' or circlip. The following website has a good selection of springs
>
> http://www.spamspam.co.uk/
>
> They also have step by step instructions on how to do it
>
> http://www.morespam.co.uk>
> Cheers,
> Stuart.
>

That's a bit obvious, Stuart, posting a response to something from 2010.
I think he'll have fixed it by now, and we can spot an advert pretending
to be something else.

Mind, I don't know that it passes "moron in a hurry" status - did you
check with your lawyers?

Andy

Andy Burns

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Dec 17, 2013, 2:37:00 AM12/17/13
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Vir Campestris wrote:

> On 16/12/2013 20:42, Mr. Fix It wrote:
>
>> Changing the spring in a door handle is quite simple provided you
>> buy some circlip pliers (cost �2 to �3 for a cheap pair). Circlip
>> pliers remove the 'metal retaining ring' or circlip. The following
>> website has a good selection of springs
>> http://www.spamspam.co.uk/
>>
>> They also have step by step instructions on how to do it
>> http://www.morespam.co.uk>
>
> That's a bit obvious, Stuart, posting a response to something from 2010.

Meanwhile, if you feel the need to give your dog electric shocks round
the neck, I'm sure Stuart can help there too ...

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Dec 17, 2013, 5:46:02 AM12/17/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:42:56 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Fix It"
<dogcollar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The following website has a good selection of springs
>
>http://www.doorhandlespringsupyourarse.co.uk/

I was going to say, "Fuck off, you spamming git", but that's actually
a useful post.
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