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Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 8:41:25 AM10/9/15
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The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.

Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.

Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
in question.

Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.

As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.

So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
next.

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Chris

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Oct 9, 2015, 8:59:24 AM10/9/15
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On 09/10/2015 13:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>
> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
> occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
> that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
>
> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
> check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
> in question.
>
> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
> They want a copy of the till receipt.
>
> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
> But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
>
> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
> next.
>

How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
give them your card number in the first email?

Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 9:05:44 AM10/9/15
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In article <JSORx.240724$ii6....@fx15.am4>,
They wrote to me initially. So obviously have my name and address. Lidl
will have the name etc on their records - it appears on the receipt, along
with the card number.

As I said, what happens if I didn't have the receipt? Just how many people
keep grocery receipts for weeks?

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charles

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Oct 9, 2015, 9:06:53 AM10/9/15
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In article <JSORx.240724$ii6....@fx15.am4>, Chris
<aniceen...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it doesn't
end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.

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Oct 9, 2015, 9:11:32 AM10/9/15
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>
> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them.

There's plenty online, especially in local groups, of people
who've ignored these demands and simply thrown them away
without any consequences at all.
As its cropped up before, and so presumably is actually
in their letter they can't "fine" anyone. Only the Courts
can do that.

I'm not sure of the legal basis on which people have got away
with ignoring these things, but a few minutes Googling may
provide more information.

This was a first Google hit

" Argue your case and stand your ground if you get a ticket – fewer
than 5 per cent of cases are taken to County Court. If they are,
most are found in the motorist’s favour.



http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2711800/Is-Lidl-s-ten-minute-free-parking-90-fine-overstay-going-far.html


michael adams

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Andy Burns

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Oct 9, 2015, 9:19:51 AM10/9/15
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras

Same with an aldi I used on Monday, a few hours after I'd left I
realised I hadn't punched my reg into the touchscreen, emailed their
head office, told them I could provide a receipt where the timestamp
would match the camera - they were good about it and said they were
confident they could help me successfully appeal the ticket (outsourced
obviously).

Bill Wright

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Oct 9, 2015, 9:24:04 AM10/9/15
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charles wrote:

>> How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
>> give them your card number in the first email?
>
> at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it doesn't
> end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.
>

I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

Bill

Davey

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Oct 9, 2015, 9:35:51 AM10/9/15
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:41:03 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>
> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On
> that occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my
> details. Not that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed
> the system anyway.
>
> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they
> could check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date
> and time in question.
>
> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
> purchase. They want a copy of the till receipt.
>
> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
> warranty. But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the
> same day.
>
> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
> happens next.
>

Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
that there isn't one near us.

Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
the wrong location for my home.

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Bob Minchin

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Oct 9, 2015, 9:36:56 AM10/9/15
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The trick with Parking Eye who operate many ALDI carparks is to make not
response at all. you will get 3 letters and then nothing more.

I have been through this a few months back and sat tight as recommended
and had no comeback. The letters and my till receipt are on the
mantelpiece ready for a fight if they try anything!

The folklore is that if you do respond and then fail to convince them
that they will pursue for the payment but I'm not convinced.
They are universally hated by our local ALDI staff who will bend of
backwards to help provide proof that you are a customer.

They are the scum of the earth using frightening tactics to extort
money. Going through the courts as they suggest costs them far too much
and they don't bother.

Graham.

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:06:13 AM10/9/15
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Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> Wrote in message:
And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

My problem is that I drive a company (leased) car so the DVLA
search returns the leaseing company's details, and they email my
employer who pass the details on to me.
The leasing company charge my employer £20 for doing this, and my
employer in turn deducts this administration fee from my salary.

Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic
Act offence, the admin charge still stands.
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charles

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:16:13 AM10/9/15
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In article <mv8hgm$pjm$1...@dont-email.me>,
Graham. <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> Wrote in message:
> > charles wrote:
> >
> >>> How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
> >>> give them your card number in the first email?
> >>
> >> at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
> >> doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.
> >>
> >
> > I don't use shops that have these parking systems.
> >
> > Bill
> >

> And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
> drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking space.
Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored system, a
parking space is usually available, implying that many of the spaces were
being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop there. Some people
may, on principle stop going there, but others will take their place.

Adrian

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:16:23 AM10/9/15
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:35:48 +0100, Davey wrote:

> Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
> that there isn't one near us.
>
> Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
> the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

Tim Watts

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:24:35 AM10/9/15
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On 09/10/15 14:36, Bob Minchin wrote:

> They are the scum of the earth using frightening tactics to extort
> money. Going through the courts as they suggest costs them far too much
> and they don't bother.

Bit like TVL then...

Scion

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:35:49 AM10/9/15
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Adrian put finger to keyboard:

> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:35:48 +0100, Davey wrote:
>
>> Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
>> that there isn't one near us.
>>
>> Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
>> the wrong location for my home.
>
> I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,

Their cold meats are nice, and where else do you go when the craving for a
tin of herrings in mustard and parsley sauce hits?

> rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
> predictable range,

Some stuff is comparable, some *is* much cheaper.

> and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.

That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559

charles

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:36:38 AM10/9/15
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In article <mv8i7j$52k$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
not my findings round here.

Adrian

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:42:45 AM10/9/15
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 15:37:19 +0100, charles wrote:

>> I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
>> rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
>> predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
>> wuckfits.

> not my findings round here.

My findings haven't varied from Aldidls across at least five countries.
Mind you, the stores themselves were utterly indistinguishable across
those five countries, either.

Adrian

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:46:18 AM10/9/15
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:33:40 +0000, Scion wrote:

>> I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,

> Their cold meats are nice

Last cold meat I bought in one was some Bresaola, in Italy. The packaging
had more flavour.

> and where else do you go when the craving for a tin of herrings in
> mustard and parsley sauce hits?

I can honestly say it never has - although SWMBO's scandi half is rather
partial to dill sill, so the Swedish embassy supplies that portion of her
diet (in glass jars), rather than the German embassy.

>> and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.

> That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559

Aldidl are only paying a relatively small minority of the knuckle-
dragging wuckfits.

News

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Oct 9, 2015, 10:48:41 AM10/9/15
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In message <mv8j84$52s$4...@dont-email.me>, Scion <a...@nospam.invalid>
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>where else do you go when the craving for a
>tin of herrings in mustard and parsley sauce hits?

So far, I've waited 63 years for the first hit :-)
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Oct 9, 2015, 11:33:21 AM10/9/15
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On Friday, 9 October 2015 15:06:13 UTC+1, Graham. wrote:
> Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic
> Act offence, the admin charge still stands

If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

Owain

Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 11:44:34 AM10/9/15
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In article <mv8f5f$teu$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
extremely busy station, with no car park.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 11:54:39 AM10/9/15
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In article <mv8j84$52s$4...@dont-email.me>,
Scion <a...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.

> That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559

I assumed Adrian meant the customers?

In general, Lidl staff seem a happier lot than Tesco. I'd guess because
the company values them more.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 11:54:39 AM10/9/15
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In article <mv8i7j$52k$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Adrian <tooma...@gmail.com> wrote:
Not at Clapham Junction. They use ASDA.

I don't buy fresh food at Lidl. But they are very good for many other
things.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 11:54:39 AM10/9/15
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In article <550fe539...@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
> > drop the scheme as uneconomic.

> is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
> usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
> space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
> system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of the
> spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
> there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
> take their place.

Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of their
others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

I've no complaint about that - merely this company expecting me to provide
the proof I shopped when I said I did, when Lidl obviously already know
this.

Not everyone has the facilities to scan a receipt and email it to them -
and indeed plenty won't have kept a receipt anyway.

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Well their hq appears to be moving from Wimbledon to Tolworth if they get
around to building their Lego monstrosity.
Brian

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alan_m

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Oct 9, 2015, 12:09:00 PM10/9/15
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On 09/10/2015 15:37, charles wrote:

> not my findings round here.
>

The knuckle dragging fuckwits that use my local Lidl/Aldi fill the car
parks with their Chelsea tractors and can be heard to say how
down-market the shop is as they pile their trolleys high.

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Brian-Gaff

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Most of the local hospitals use this sort of system these days, but what
throws a lot of them is blind people with blue badges, as we can turn up in
almost any car, so their cunning plan to ally a car number with a badge
won't work.
Brian

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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>
> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
> occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
> that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
>
> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
> check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
> in question.
>
> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
> They want a copy of the till receipt.
>
> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
> But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
>
> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
> next.

Nothing will and there's no need to respond any further. It's a fairly
fundamental principle of civil litigation that you aren't obliged to do the
other side's homework for them. Just keep the evidence in case they're
stupid enough to make a claim in court but they won't. Their procedure is
likely to fire off a couple of letters to try and flush the really nervous
types out and earn a few quid and give up on anyone else.
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Oct 9, 2015, 1:13:17 PM10/9/15
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On 09/10/2015 13:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?


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Andy Burns

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Oct 9, 2015, 1:17:07 PM10/9/15
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Nightjar <cpb wrote:

> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
>> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
>> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
>> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...
>
> Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
> which is what my local Lidl does?

Because that doesn't stop people parking at lidl while shopping elsewhere?


Adrian

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Oct 9, 2015, 1:21:39 PM10/9/15
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:13:08 +0100, Nightjar <cpb wrote:

>> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
>> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
>> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

> Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
> which is what my local Lidl does?

Probably because even short-term minutes parking near Clapham Junction is
at an expensive premium, and if the store want to provide it free to
their customers, they want to ensure their customers aren't blocked out
of all spaces by non-customers...

Tim Watts

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Oct 9, 2015, 1:26:14 PM10/9/15
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Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).

Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...

[1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

Tim Watts

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Oct 9, 2015, 1:26:18 PM10/9/15
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On 09/10/15 17:06, Brian-Gaff wrote:
> Well their hq appears to be moving from Wimbledon to Tolworth if they get
> around to building their Lego monstrosity.
> Brian
>

Not Tolworth Towers?

I lived in Tolworth - for the first year of my life anyway.

Mr Pounder Esquire

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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>
> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
> occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
> that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
>
> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
> check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
> in question.
>
> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
> They want a copy of the till receipt.
>
> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
> But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
>
> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
> next.
>
I'm not being horrible, but it seems to me that most of these parking
problems happen in the south.
We have never ever had problems parking in supermarket car parks in the
north.
Even if we won £40M we would never move to the south.
See, I've not been horrible.



Phil L

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Oct 9, 2015, 1:36:50 PM10/9/15
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:550fdc7...@davenoise.co.uk...
> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>
> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
> occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
> that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
>
> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
> check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
> in question.
>
> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
> They want a copy of the till receipt.
>
> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
> But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
>
> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
> next.

I've never been to an Aldi or Lidl that has parking charges of any kind,
almost all the ones I know of are shared car parks, Lidl shares with a large
gym chain, Aldi shares with Halfords, Maplins, Iceland and a few poundshops
etc


Adrian

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Oct 9, 2015, 1:38:12 PM10/9/15
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 17:31:38 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:

>> Most of the local hospitals use this sort of system these days, but
>> what throws a lot of them is blind people with blue badges, as we can
>> turn up in almost any car, so their cunning plan to ally a car number
>> with a badge won't work.

> But they can (and do) insist only disabled tax cars are valid ...
> certainly Birmingham Town Hall does ...

Well, since it's unlikely the blind person will be driving, there's not a
great issue with the sighted driver dropping the blind passenger
somewhere convenient, then parking elsewhere, before returning to their
passenger.

A driver with very reduced mobility, otoh, that might be a big issue.

charles

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Oct 9, 2015, 1:46:21 PM10/9/15
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In article <GaudnfsQdooMa4rL...@brightview.co.uk>,
My local Lidl, which takes numbers, allows 1½ hours free parking. This
allows you to go other shops, or the bank, after you have done your Lidl
shopping

Capitol

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Oct 9, 2015, 2:01:16 PM10/9/15
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article<mv8j84$52s$4...@dont-email.me>,
> Scion<a...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging wuckfits.
>>>
>
>> That might improve as they are now paid the living wage.
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34281559
>>
> I assumed Adrian meant the customers?
>
> In general, Lidl staff seem a happier lot than Tesco. I'd guess because
> the company values them more.
>
>
The customers also seem happier!

Capitol

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Oct 9, 2015, 2:02:17 PM10/9/15
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Adrian wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:35:48 +0100, Davey wrote:
>
>
>> Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
>> that there isn't one near us.
>>
>> Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
>> the wrong location for my home.
>>
> I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
> rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
> predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
> wuckfits.
>
Must be your neighborhood!

Capitol

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Oct 9, 2015, 2:06:22 PM10/9/15
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Aldi is just about the only grocer still selling breadcrumbed
Camemberts. Their junk collection is much wider than Lidl.

Fredxxx

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Oct 9, 2015, 2:07:12 PM10/9/15
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That was my thought initially, but this is really defamation and its
consequences.

Aren't we therefore talking of High Court action?

Bob Minchin

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Oct 9, 2015, 2:26:01 PM10/9/15
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That was my thinking about a year ago. Now about 80% of our weekly shop
comes from Aldi and the rest from a fortnightly trip to ASDA and the odd
trip to Costco.

Tim w

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On 09/10/2015 14:11, michael adams wrote:

>
> I'm not sure of the legal basis on which people have got away
> with ignoring these things, .....

Simply this:

If you have some land you can run a private car park, no question. Put a
bloke in a kiosk or a pay and display machine, whatever you like,

BUT you are NOT entitled to issue a fine or a ticket for non-compliance
or failure to pay and you are NOT entitled to clamp either.

So what looks like a parking ticket is actually only an invoice for
inflated charges on the basis that you agreed to a contract when you
parked there because the terms were written up on a sign. But you didn't
read the small print and even if you did unreasonable terms are
unenforceable under consumer legislation.

So it is a scam tolerated by every town council in every town centre in
the land. If you ignore the demands the 'fine' wil be doubled and
doubled until it is in the hundreds and backed up by letters from
solicitors that probably don't even exist, with charges added on so it
can get quite scary. In the end it is all bluster and hollow threats.
they can't enforce it in court.

Tim w

Unknown

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Oct 9, 2015, 2:58:14 PM10/9/15
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Fair enough. In the same town as my Lidl you get the first two hours
free in the town centre car park.

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Tough Guy no. 1265

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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:45:00 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <550fe539...@candehope.me.uk>,
> charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>> > And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
>> > drop the scheme as uneconomic.
>
>> is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
>> usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
>> space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
>> system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of the
>> spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
>> there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
>> take their place.
>
> Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of their
> others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with fucking tickets.

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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <mv8f5f$teu$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> charles wrote:
>
>> >> How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
>> >> give them your card number in the first email?
>> >
>> > at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
>> > doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.
>> >
>
>> I don't use shops that have these parking systems.
>
> It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
> and display a free ticket from a machine.
>
> They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
> extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the council approve a station with no car park?

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"Jethro_uk" <jeth...@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message
news:mv8toj$v80$4...@dont-email.me...
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:11:23 +0100, michael adams wrote:
>
>
>> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:550fdc7...@davenoise.co.uk...
>>> [quoted text muted]
>>
>> There's plenty online, especially in local groups, of people who've
>> ignored these demands and simply thrown them away without any
>> consequences at all.
>
> Dangerous advice, post Beavis. *Probably* what would happen. But the
> courts have allowed it now.

As it happens I wasn't advising the OP to do anything. I was simply making
an observation.

Any advice on offer would have been in the webpage to which I left a link


http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2711800/Is-Lidl-s-ten-minute-free-parking-90-fine-overstay-going-far.html


As to Beavis I'm not aware of any judgement being made,
and in any case with Beavis, there is no disagreement as
to fact.

In this case there most certainly is. It's for the complainant
to prove that the OP hadn't shopped in Lidl at the appropriate
times, not for him to prove that he had.



michael adams

...









charles

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Oct 9, 2015, 4:12:33 PM10/9/15
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In article <op.x5851...@red.lan>,
That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to Heathrow
airport.

Tough Guy no. 1265

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Oct 9, 2015, 4:23:05 PM10/9/15
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No it isn't.

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charles

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In article <op.x589k...@red.lan>, Tough Guy no. 1265 <n...@spam.com>
Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Tough Guy no. 1265

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And everything nearby is equally old is it? When a building is knocked down, a car park should be made if there aren't enough already.

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newshound

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Oct 9, 2015, 4:38:55 PM10/9/15
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Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

Tough Guy no. 1265

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Oct 9, 2015, 4:47:55 PM10/9/15
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All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I don't have parking problems in Scotland.

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charles

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In article <op.x59ap...@red.lan>, Tough Guy no. 1265 <n...@spam.com>
That probably depends where in Scotland.

Tough Guy no. 1265

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Yes there are a couple of horrid places called Glasgow and Edinburgh, but normal people don't live there.

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Graham.

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Defamation? No. Theft maybe!


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Graham.

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Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.

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Fredxxx

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What theft? How have the parking charge company benefited from this theft?

Tough Guy no. 1265

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polygonum

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Oct 9, 2015, 6:18:27 PM10/9/15
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On 09/10/2015 18:13, Nightjar <cpb wrote:
> On 09/10/2015 13:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
>> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
>> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...
>
> Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
> which is what my local Lidl does?
>
>
Which fails as a technique if they miss you going out. They might then
see a going-in one day and a going-out the next - and assume an
overnight+ stay.

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Bill Wright

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Oct 9, 2015, 7:25:12 PM10/9/15
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <mv8f5f$teu$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> charles wrote:
>
>>>> How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did you
>>>> give them your card number in the first email?
>>> at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
>>> doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.
>>>
>
>> I don't use shops that have these parking systems.
>
> It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
> and display a free ticket from a machine.
>
> They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
> extremely busy station, with no car park.
>
The best idea is to not use shops in places like that.

Bill

Bill Wright

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Oct 9, 2015, 7:27:20 PM10/9/15
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Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

> All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
> don't have parking problems in Scotland.
>

It's other people who live close to me, not me who lives close to them.

Bill

Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 7:37:03 PM10/9/15
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In article <mv8t2t$vuu$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Adrian <tooma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:13:08 +0100, Nightjar <cpb wrote:

> >> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
> >> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
> >> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

> > Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
> > which is what my local Lidl does?

> Probably because even short-term minutes parking near Clapham Junction
> is at an expensive premium, and if the store want to provide it free to
> their customers, they want to ensure their customers aren't blocked out
> of all spaces by non-customers...

Yes - there is a Boots next door with no car park. The ASDA - where you
you don't need a purchase to park - is rather further away.

Other Lidl car parks in the area don't seem to have any restrictions at
all - apart from the usual signs.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 7:47:09 PM10/9/15
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In article <550ff858...@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > Because that doesn't stop people parking at lidl while shopping
> > elsewhere?

> My local Lidl, which takes numbers, allows 1½ hours free parking. This
> allows you to go other shops, or the bank, after you have done your Lidl
> shopping

You're allowed 90 minutes at this Lidl too - but you do have to make a
purchase to get the parking validated. According to the letter I got, I
was only there for 25 minutes.

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Oct 9, 2015, 7:47:09 PM10/9/15
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In article <0LOdnedTi5JHuIXL...@brightview.co.uk>,
newshound <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote:
> Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
> (Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
> more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
> have a car left it at home with the wife.

And the wife drove in those days?

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Oct 9, 2015, 7:47:09 PM10/9/15
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In article <op.x5850...@red.lan>,
Tough Guy no. 1265 <n...@spam.com> wrote:
> Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
> large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
> park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
> fucking tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Oct 9, 2015, 7:53:52 PM10/9/15
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In article <55100bf6...@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
> > don't have parking problems in Scotland.

> That probably depends where in Scotland.

Certainly does. He's never obviously been to a city there.

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In article <op.x5851...@red.lan>,
Tough Guy no. 1265 <n...@spam.com> wrote:
> > They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
> > extremely busy station, with no car park.

> Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
> council approve a station with no car park?

It was built before cars were invented. Next point?

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"Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> wrote in message
news:mv8tep$cgf$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:550fdc7...@davenoise.co.uk...
>> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
>> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
>> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>>
>> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
>> occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
>> that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system
>> anyway.
>>
>> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
>> check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
>> in question.
>>
>> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
>> They want a copy of the till receipt.
>>
>> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
>> But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
>>
>> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
>> next.

> I'm not being horrible,

You were spawned horrible, that's why you were
strangled at spawning time but your 'parents' are
so inbred that they couldn’t even manage to get
that right because they were so blotto at the time.

> but it seems to me that most of these parking problems happen in the
> south.
> We have never ever had problems parking in supermarket car parks in the
> north.

Because you lot can't afford cars, stupid.

> Even if we won £40M we would never move to the south.

Because you would be summarily executed
if you were stupid enough to try that.

> See, I've not been horrible.

You were spawned horrible, that's why you were
strangled at spawning time but your 'parents' are
so inbred that they couldn’t even manage to get
that right because they were so blotto at the time.


Rod Speed

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Fredxxx <fre...@nospam.com> wrote
> spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote
>> Graham. wrote

>>> Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or
>>> Road Traffic Act offence, the admin charge still stands

>> If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should
>> counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly
>> due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

> That was my thought initially, but this is
> really defamation and its consequences.

No its not, any more than receiving a speed camera fine is.

They can't even demand that you tell them who
was driving the car in the Lidl car park situation.

> Aren't we therefore talking of High Court action?

Nope, just ignore anything they send you and see them
realise that their bluff has been called and give up.

Rod Speed

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Oct 9, 2015, 11:48:43 PM10/9/15
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Capitol <sp...@whereva.uk> wrote

> Aldi is just about the only grocer still
> selling breadcrumbed Camemberts.

Bloody hell. Can't imagine why for the life of me.

They don't even stock chutney routinely here.

> Their junk collection is much wider than Lidl.

Rod Speed

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"Bob Minchin" <bob.minc...@YOURHATntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:mv90nr$pvm$1...@dont-email.me...
> Tim Watts wrote:
>> On 09/10/15 15:37, charles wrote:
>>> In article <mv8i7j$52k$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>> Adrian <tooma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:35:48 +0100, Davey wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
>>>>> that there isn't one near us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
>>>>> the wrong location for my home.
>>>
>>>> I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
>>>> rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
>>>> predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
>>>> wuckfits.
>>>
>>> not my findings round here.
>>>
>>
>> Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
>> right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).
>>
>> Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
>> expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...
>>
>> [1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

> That was my thinking about a year ago. Now about 80% of our weekly shop
> comes from Aldi and the rest from a fortnightly trip to ASDA and the odd
> trip to Costco.

What don’t you get from Aldi and is that because you don’t like
Aldi's offering on that, the price or because its not stocked ?

Rod Speed

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:op.x5850...@red.lan...
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:45:00 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <550fe539...@candehope.me.uk>,
>> charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>>> > And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
>>> > drop the scheme as uneconomic.
>>
>>> is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
>>> usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
>>> space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
>>> system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of the
>>> spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
>>> there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
>>> take their place.
>>
>> Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of their
>> others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.
>
> Supermarkets should have adequate parking.

Easier said than done in some places.

> They should be sited on large areas of ground.

Tends to a bit of a shortage of those in some places
where some are silly enough to want to live and shop.

> If they don't, they can fuck off.

Off got sick of being fucked.

> I want to park my car, go shopping, then go home.

And I use supermarkets where I can do that.

Tad radical I know.

> I will not mess about with fucking tickets.

I might well do if there is no alternative
and I want to use that supermarket because
what they have on offer is better than in
the supermarket that does use tickets,
particularly if when not having tickets
you can't find anywhere to park.


Rod Speed

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:op.x5851...@red.lan...
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <mv8f5f$teu$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> charles wrote:
>>
>>> >> How do they link your car registration with your payment card? Did
>>> >> you
>>> >> give them your card number in the first email?
>>> >
>>> > at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
>>> > doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase does.
>>> >
>>
>>> I don't use shops that have these parking systems.
>>
>> It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have to get
>> and display a free ticket from a machine.
>>
>> They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
>> extremely busy station, with no car park.

> Then the station should build themselves a car park.

Easier said than done with some stations.

> Why did the council approve a station with no car park?

Presumably it was approved in the days before many had cars.


Rod Speed

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:op.x5892...@red.lan...
Irrelevant.

> When a building is knocked down, a car park should be made if there aren't
> enough already.

Pity about who owns that building and the land
its on and why the knocked the building down
and what they replaced it with.

Rod Speed

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:op.x59ap...@red.lan...
But you do have a hell of a problem getting
and keeping a well paid job or even one
that you would be happy to do for free.


Rod Speed

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"Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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You don't necessarily have much choice with operations like Aldi.

alan_m

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Oct 10, 2015, 2:48:21 AM10/10/15
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On 09/10/2015 20:06, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

> Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
> large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
> park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
> fucking tickets.
>


Rather than NEEDING a car to go to an out of town supermarket ALdi/Lidl
seem to be mainly targeting sites where people actually live and where
people can walk to shop.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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>
>In article <0LOdnedTi5JHuIXL...@brightview.co.uk>,
> newshound <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote:
>> Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
>> (Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
>> more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
>> have a car left it at home with the wife.
>
>And the wife drove in those days?

No. She stayed at home with the car and did woman's work.

MM

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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:59:18 +0100, Chris
<aniceen...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 09/10/2015 13:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
>> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
>> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>>
>> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
>> occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
>> that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system anyway.
>>
>> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
>> check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
>> in question.
>>
>> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
>> They want a copy of the till receipt.
>>
>> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
>> But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
>>
>> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
>> next.
>>
>
>How do they link your car registration with your payment card?

Nowadays, EVERYthing's linked, EVERYthing's discoverable.

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Brian-Gaff

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Oct 10, 2015, 3:24:17 AM10/10/15
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Talking about terms and conditions, does anyone actually read them on
anything these days.
I had this very silly thought the other day that if I wanted to run a car
park I'd put in the terms, all patrons parking here have to disrobe before
entering the shop as the s staff need a good laugh.
:-)

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"Phil L" <neverc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
>> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
>> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.
>>
>> Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
>> occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details. Not
>> that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system
>> anyway.
>>
>> Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
>> check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and time
>> in question.
>>
>> Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a purchase.
>> They want a copy of the till receipt.
>>
>> As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a warranty.
>> But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.
>>
>> So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what happens
>> next.
>
> I've never been to an Aldi or Lidl that has parking charges of any kind,
> almost all the ones I know of are shared car parks, Lidl shares with a
> large gym chain, Aldi shares with Halfords, Maplins, Iceland and a few
> poundshops etc
>


Andy Burns

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Oct 10, 2015, 3:32:33 AM10/10/15
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polygonum wrote:

> Nightjar <cpb wrote:
>
>> Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out
>
> Which fails as a technique if they miss you going out.

The local Sainsbury's have never failed in that way.


charles

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Oct 10, 2015, 3:47:49 AM10/10/15
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In article <5510197...@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <55100bf6...@candehope.me.uk>,
> charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > > All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
> > > don't have parking problems in Scotland.

> > That probably depends where in Scotland.

> Certainly does. He's never obviously been to a city there.

Indeed. try parking near Waverley Station

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Richard

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Oct 10, 2015, 3:48:33 AM10/10/15
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"Capitol" wrote in message
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>
>Adrian wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:35:48 +0100, Davey wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first reason is
>>> that there isn't one near us.
>>>
>>> Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it returned
>>> the wrong location for my home.
>>>
>> I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually mediocre,
>> rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
>> predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
>> wuckfits.
>>
> Must be your neighborhood!

Nah. He walked into a hall of mirrors once and the experience has scarred
him for life.

Rod Speed

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Oct 10, 2015, 3:52:29 AM10/10/15
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alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote
> Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote

>> Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should
>> be sited on large areas of ground. If they don't, they can
>> fuck off. I want to park my car, go shopping, then go
>> home. I will not mess about with fucking tickets.

> Rather than NEEDING a car to go to an out of town supermarket ALdi/Lidl
> seem to be mainly targeting sites where people actually live and where
> people can walk to shop.

They don't do that here. Most of them do need a car to be able to get to.

I can't think of any of ours that you can walk to.

Adrian

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Oct 10, 2015, 3:52:49 AM10/10/15
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 00:44:32 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

>> Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
>> large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
>> park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
>> fucking tickets.

> Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.

Or, indeed, the centre of any major city anywhere worldwide.

Adrian

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Oct 10, 2015, 3:54:49 AM10/10/15
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 19:07:43 +0100, Capitol wrote:

> Aldi is just about the only grocer still selling breadcrumbed
> Camemberts.

Are you incapable of egg-dipping then breadcrumbing your own camembert?

Alternatively, just take an unbreadcrumbed camembert, unwrap it then put
it back in the box - and put the box in the oven. Take the lid off, and
dip crusty bread in. Even better than deep-fried breadcrumbed.

ARW

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:06:13 AM10/10/15
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"Tough Guy no. 1265" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 22:58:45 +0100, Graham. <m...@privicy.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound
>> <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/10/2015 21:25, charles wrote:
>>>> In article <op.x589k...@red.lan>, Tough Guy no. 1265
>>>> <n...@spam.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:11:19 +0100, charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> In article <op.x5851...@red.lan>, Tough Guy no. 1265
>>>>>> <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
>>>>>>> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <mv8f5f$teu$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Bill Wright
>>>>>>>> <bi...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> charles wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you give them your card number in the first email?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase
>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't use shops that have these parking systems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get and display a free ticket from a machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
>>>>>>>> an extremely busy station, with no car park.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
>>>>>>> council approve a station with no car park?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
>>>>>> Heathrow airport.
>>>>
>>>>> No it isn't.
>>>>
>>>> Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town
>>>> &
>>>> Country planning did not exist - it is very similar
>>>>
>>> Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter station
>>> (Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was seldom
>>> more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
>>> have a car left it at home with the wife.
>>
>> Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXzqAC_7Vxg
>

Blocked. But this one isn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVer2e3TX6s



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ARW

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:10:57 AM10/10/15
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"Tim Watts" <tw_u...@dionic.net> wrote in message
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> On 09/10/15 14:36, Bob Minchin wrote:
>
>> They are the scum of the earth using frightening tactics to extort
>> money. Going through the courts as they suggest costs them far too much
>> and they don't bother.
>
> Bit like TVL then...


They say they will be visiting me on the Thurday:-)

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Tim Watts

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:22:43 AM10/10/15
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Posting a video?

Rod Speed

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:30:52 AM10/10/15
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Richard <smit...@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote
>> newshound <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote

>>> Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
>>> station (Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but
>>> it was seldom more than half full. Most of those commuters who
>>> were lucky enough to have a car left it at home with the wife.

>> And the wife drove in those days?

> No. She stayed at home with the car and did woman's work.

So why didn't he park the car at the station ?

And my mum drove the car in the 50s.

Even Liz drove a truck in the 40s and could fix basic problems too.

Rod Speed

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:43:03 AM10/10/15
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MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> Chris <aniceen...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
Nope. Tell me what my mobile phone number is.

Tell me what my care number plate is.

Tell me what the last transaction on my card was.

Rod Speed

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:45:22 AM10/10/15
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Brian-Gaff <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote

> Talking about terms and conditions, does anyone actually read them on
> anything these days.

A few of the most anal do.

> I had this very silly thought the other day that if I wanted to run a car
> park I'd put in the terms, all patrons parking here have to disrobe before
> entering the shop as the s staff need a good laugh.
> :-)

Bet if you did that, it would be noticed pretty quickly.

Capitol

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:46:49 AM10/10/15
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article<op.x5850...@red.lan>,
> Tough Guy no. 1265<n...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
>> large areas of ground. If they don't, they can fuck off. I want to
>> park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
>> fucking tickets.
>>
> Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.
>
>
Why would anyone want to from choice?

Capitol

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:50:10 AM10/10/15
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article<op.x5851...@red.lan>,
> Tough Guy no. 1265<n...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>> They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside an
>>> extremely busy station, with no car park.
>>>
>
>> Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
>> council approve a station with no car park?
>>
> It was built before cars were invented. Next point?
>
>
Why haven't they built a car park?

Bob Minchin

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Oct 10, 2015, 4:51:04 AM10/10/15
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It is a mix of offering and stock Rod. We prefer unsliced bread and Aldi
don't stock that. I am diabetic so we buy diet cold drinks and Aldi are
often sold out.
Prices are better or equal to those of ASDA.
Wine quality at Aldi is excellent but stock levels are variable which
leads me to stock up when I see a favourite in stock, which depletes the
stock for the next customer of course!

Rod Speed

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Nope.
Better than his.

Bob Eager

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Oct 10, 2015, 5:11:53 AM10/10/15
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Strange sometimes. Dumpton Park (near Broadstairs) is a commuter station.
Not as busy as it used to be, perhaps, but the car park is tiny (about 8
spaces). Yet there used to be a load of spare land nearby, which was used
for a small housing estate.

Now you have to drive through the housing estate to get to the car park.

Unknown

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Oct 10, 2015, 5:15:10 AM10/10/15
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On 09/10/2015 23:18, polygonum wrote:
> On 09/10/2015 18:13, Nightjar <cpb wrote:
>> On 09/10/2015 13:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>>> The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
>>> recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
>>> Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...
>>
>> Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
>> which is what my local Lidl does?
>>
>>
> Which fails as a technique if they miss you going out. They might then
> see a going-in one day and a going-out the next - and assume an
> overnight+ stay.
>

That would require a failure of both the outgoing capture on the first
day and the incoming capture on the second, which would be a very low
probability event.

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Rod Speed

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Because a lot more happens there than anywhere else.

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