You don’t find the likes of these in London

[Spike]

Wake up, Khan, stop the agenda-loaded hounding drivers and concentrate on
things providing facilities like this:

<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Metro#/media/File%3AWarsaw_07-13_img37_Plac_Wilsona_metro.jpg>

[Safe]

--
Spike

[Tim Streater]

On 14 Feb 2024 at 16:37:55 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
<ottavio2006...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Even those dirty and lazy Italians have better metros:
> http://www.girlfromnaples.com/new-blog/2018/4/23/underground-napoli-the-metro

So we should rip out the functioning Underground system that we already have,
and replace it wih another. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

--
Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.

Terry Pratchett

[Spike]

Tim Streater <t...@streater.me.uk> wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2024 at 16:37:55 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
> <ottavio2006...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Am 14/02/2024 um 16:07 schrieb Spike:
>>> Wake up, Khan, stop the agenda-loaded hounding drivers and concentrate on
>>> things providing facilities like this:
>>>
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Metro#/media/File%3AWarsaw_07-13_img37_Plac_Wilsona_metro.jpg>
>>>
>>> [Safe]
>>>
>>
>> Even those dirty and lazy Italians have better metros:
>> http://www.girlfromnaples.com/new-blog/2018/4/23/underground-napoli-the-metro

> So we should rip out the functioning Underground system that we already have,
> and replace it wih another. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

Have you ever commuted on LU?

--
Spike

[The Natural Philosopher]

Not since around 1974 and it was shit then.

More diseases in the Tube than Porton Down. And parasites. People
crawling with lice and fleas, miserable morons crawling from a shit flat
to a shit job...no thanks.
--
Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice.
– Will Durant

[Tim Streater]

Nearly 60 years ago, yes. My route was Southfields <-> Earls Court <-> South
Ken.

--
First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your oppressors. - George Orwell

[Spike]

Tim Streater <t...@streater.me.uk> wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2024 at 19:03:13 GMT, "Spike" <aero....@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tim Streater <t...@streater.me.uk> wrote:
>>> On 14 Feb 2024 at 16:37:55 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"
>>> <ottavio2006...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 14/02/2024 um 16:07 schrieb Spike:
>>>>> Wake up, Khan, stop the agenda-loaded hounding drivers and concentrate on
>>>>> things providing facilities like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Metro#/media/File%3AWarsaw_07-13_img37_Plac_Wilsona_metro.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> [Safe]
>>>>
>>>> Even those dirty and lazy Italians have better metros:
>>>> http://www.girlfromnaples.com/new-blog/2018/4/23/underground-napoli-the-metro

>>> So we should rip out the functioning Underground system that we already have,
>>> and replace it wih another. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

>> Have you ever commuted on LU?

> Nearly 60 years ago, yes. My route was Southfields <-> Earls Court <-> South
> Ken.

So you’ll be familiar with how grubby and run-down most of it is.

--
Spike

[Smolley]

Daily in 1956, from Hounslow East to Hammersmith. Annual season ticket was
£4.17/6.

[Smolley]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:06:40 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Fucking hell. You're as good as dead.

Probably soon, but I grew up in the best period, plenty of good jobs, easy
to buy a house, no overcrowding at hospitals. Car insurance £36 for Ford
Zodiak mk2. We had 5 local cinemas, Trolley Buses and Greenline routes.

[Smolley]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:05:52 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Fucking hell. I wasn't even born 60 years ago and this dinosaur Tim is
> teaching me life lessons!

You clearly need it.

[Smolley]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 11:38:29 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Do you do skype lessons from your care home? Do you know what day it is
> today?

You are demonstrating one of the classic signs of low self esteem and low
self worth. You should be able to get free treatment for it on the NHS.

[Fredxx]

It all went downhill after 1973.

[Tim Streater]

On 15 Feb 2024 at 10:05:52 GMT, "Ottavio Caruso"

<ottavio2006...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Am 15/02/2024 um 09:21 schrieb Spike:

> Fucking hell. I wasn't even born 60 years ago and this dinosaur Tim is
> teaching me life lessons!

Yes, today may be your lucky day in tat you finally understand your
fundamental need to wise up.

Oh, and the expression is "doddering old fossil", not "dinosaur" IF you don't
mind.

--
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they are poor.

Peter Thompson

[Tim Streater]

Certainly a lot of it could do with a lick of paint and better track
maintenance so the trains don't sound like the they're running over broken
rails.

Still, back then you were lucky to have two carriages which were no-smoking,
whereas today ...

And some of the rolling stock dated back to the 1920s/1930s. And while there's
still ancient stock, quite a lot is modern and even air-conditioned, AIUI.

It would be even better with driverless trains.

--
Socialism: For people who lack the charisma to be train spotters.

Ann Sheridan

[Brian]

Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Am 14/02/2024 um 16:07 schrieb Spike:

> Even those dirty and lazy Italians have better metros:
> http://www.girlfromnaples.com/new-blog/2018/4/23/underground-napoli-the-metro
>
>

While the Paris system isn’t especially attractive, it is cheap, clean, and
efficient.

Public transport in Luxembourg - even parking at train stations- is free,
except First Class. Spotlessly clean, efficient, …..

[JNugent]

I didn't know that.

Luxembourg's other attractive characteristic is that it has the lowest
fuel taxes in western Europe. So much so that there is little point in
there being any petrol stations in adjacent countries which are too near
the border.

[R Souls]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:00:22 +0000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.invalid>
wrote:

Especially so from 1979 when the ghastly Thatcher took the reins.

[R Souls]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 11:36:18 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
<ottavio2006...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yet your generation fucked it up.

Not really. It was the Nasty Party under Thatcher's direction.

[R Souls]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:05:52 +0000, Ottavio Caruso

<ottavio2006...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Am 15/02/2024 um 09:21 schrieb Spike:

>Fucking hell. I wasn't even born 60 years ago and this dinosaur Tim is
>teaching me life lessons!

Blimey, so young! Didn't you know you need to be a geriatric gammon to
post here?

[Joe]

On 15 Feb 2024 13:20:20 GMT

Which the Victoria Line could have had for the last half-century.

--
Joe

[Smolley]

.......and he mail train has always had.

[JNugent]

On 16/02/2024 03:21, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> The price of a coffee in Luxembourg enough to pay back for the free
> transport. I was there in 1985. No freebies then.

The price of public transport in Italy means nothing to me. I have only
ever been there by car: Calais - Charleroi - Luxembourg (|refill at Aire
de Kapellen) - Metz - Nancy - Strasbourg - Freiburg - Basel - St
Gotthard tunnel - Chiasso - Como - Milan - Parma - La Spezia - Pisa - Rome.

Good place for an overnight stop: Bad Krozingen.

[Andrew]

On 15/02/2024 10:35, Smolley wrote:

No effective treatment for cancer or a whole range of other
conditions. More than 50% of the population smoked, so if you
didn't then after spending all day in a workplace surrounded by
people who did, then travelling home on the tube/train/bus
was equally smoky. Arrive home smelling like a dirty ashtray.

Yuk. Those days are gone. Good Riddance.

Average life of a Ford anything, away from the dry eastern
counties, was about 7 years tops before the chassis legs of
the monocoque rotted away.