Where can I buy rubber cleaner/conditioner?
Mark Payne
years ago I was given a 2 fluid oz. bottle of TEAC rubber cleaner
conditioner, I believe that it was quite expensive. The contents list
says that it contains aromatic hydrocarbons, antioxidant and no alcohol.
I have always used it to clean pinch rollers but lately have found that
it's brilliant for removing the glaze on the rubber rollers of some
paper handling machinery that I use for work. Of course now it's running
out :-(
Any alternatives welcomed.
Thanks in advance
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Dave Plowman
Mark Payne <ma...@goNOwestSPAM.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Does anybody know where I can buy rubber cleaner/conditioner? About 7
> years ago I was given a 2 fluid oz. bottle of TEAC rubber cleaner
> conditioner, I believe that it was quite expensive. The contents list
> says that it contains aromatic hydrocarbons, antioxidant and no alcohol.
How about a mouse cleaner?
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Dave Goulbourne
>
> Does anybody know where I can buy rubber cleaner/conditioner? About 7
> years ago I was given a 2 fluid oz. bottle of TEAC rubber cleaner
> conditioner, I believe that it was quite expensive. The contents list
> says that it contains aromatic hydrocarbons, antioxidant and no alcohol.
>
> it's brilliant for removing the glaze on the rubber rollers of some
> paper handling machinery that I use for work. Of course now it's running
> out :-(
>
> Any alternatives welcomed.
>
Isopropryl Alcohol - it's the trade standard cleaner for videos etc.
I've used cellulose thinners to clean car tyres - makes them look
better than tyre paint.
Silicone spray has been suggested but that's OK as long as it's for
'decorative' purposes. (and silicone should not be used near car
paintwork. It will create little 'birds eyes' in the paint should any
paint repairs be required at any future time! This includes WD40, and
yes, silicone car polish too)
HTH
Dave
Steve Holden
Mark Payne <ma...@goNOwestSPAM.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Does anybody know where I can buy rubber cleaner/conditioner?
Dilute washing-up liquid (always used for this very purpose on
expensive 16-track recorder at the recording studio I used to work
at)? Cheap and cheerful.
Would not recommend propanol* as it'll probably rot/dissolve the rubber
(qv Dave's post - sorry, Deja's behind my other news-server!) - but
fine for all the metal bits, heads included.
[*isopropyl alcohol - AIUI, a solvent for the binder which holds the
useful magnetic bit to the plastic transport tape]
Got flamed over lint (of all things!) last time I opened my mouth about
head-cleaning etc last time on .diy - so mum's the word, eh? :-)
And remember, kids, make sure your buds are lint-free before swabbing!
HTH,
Steve
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Peter Parry
<de...@coordinated.co.uk> wrote:
>Would not recommend propanol* as it'll probably rot/dissolve the rubber
>(qv Dave's post - sorry, Deja's behind my other news-server!) - but
>fine for all the metal bits, heads included.
I don't think Isopropyl alcohol has any deleterious effect upon
rubber (certainly I've never seen any). It is the major (only)
constituent of the various "safety solvents" used on tape mechanisms,
printer cleaners etc.
Washing up liquid contains salt and can be corrosive if it seeps into
crevices, bearings etc where it can't evaporate reasonably quickly.
A safer alternative is photographic rinse aid used in quite strong
concentrations.
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Dave Plowman
Steve Holden <de...@coordinated.co.uk> wrote:
> Dilute washing-up liquid (always used for this very purpose on
> expensive 16-track recorder at the recording studio I used to work
> at)? Cheap and cheerful.
Good grief. I've seen just about everything used on a multi-track,
including nose grease, but never washing up liquid. Wouldn't have thought
the salt in it would do the bearings any good.
Tony Williams
Peter Parry <pe...@wppltd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't think Isopropyl alcohol has any deleterious effect upon
> rubber (certainly I've never seen any). It is the major (only)
> constituent of the various "safety solvents" used on tape mechanisms,
> printer cleaners etc.
I worked at Ampex, (studio recorders), and
isopropyl was the only cleaning fluid allowed
anywhere near a tape transport mechanism.
--
Tony Williams.
Steve Holden
>
> In article <MR3T1FAR...@gowest.demon.co.uk>,
> Mark Payne <ma...@goNOwestSPAM.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > Does anybody know where I can buy rubber cleaner/conditioner?
> > I have always used it to clean pinch rollers
> > Any alternatives welcomed.
>
> head-cleaning etc last time on .diy - so mum's the word, eh? :-)
Perhaps I shouldn't have bothered this time, either... ;-)
Dave Plowman wrote:
>
> In article <7vnc41$bdc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Steve Holden <de...@coordinated.co.uk> wrote:
> > Dilute washing-up liquid (always used for this very purpose on
> > expensive 16-track recorder at the recording studio I used to work
> > at)? Cheap and cheerful.
>
> Good grief. I've seen just about everything used on a multi-track,
> including nose grease, but never washing up liquid. Wouldn't have thought
> the salt in it would do the bearings any good.
Peter Parry wrote:
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 18:56:03 GMT, Steve Holden
> <de...@coordinated.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I don't think Isopropyl alcohol has any deleterious effect upon
> rubber (certainly I've never seen any). It is the major (only)
> constituent of the various "safety solvents" used on tape mechanisms,
> printer cleaners etc.
>
> Washing up liquid contains salt and can be corrosive if it seeps into
> crevices, bearings etc where it can't evaporate reasonably quickly.
> A safer alternative is photographic rinse aid used in quite strong
> concentrations.
As I said, this was what was used by experienced sound engineers on the
advice of the suppliers of their 16 track. If this was bad advice to
pass on, my sincerest apologies - and I will rethink how I clean my own
decks...
However, I didn't say dunk the thing in a washing up bowl, just to use a
dilute soln on the surface of the actual rubber rollers only (when they
go "glassy" - not every time you do the washing up!) - but NOT on
anything else, and certainly not used in such quantities as to drip it
inside - this is being applied in very small quantities with a
(lint-free) cotton bud, after all.
And I was specifically told to avoid using the solvent on the rubber
bits as it would rot them - just on the metal/plastic parts in the tape
transport path. Do you not find that if you apply the isopropyl to the
rubbers, your bud ends up a tad too black? Just me then...
Anyway, I'll get my coat :-)
Steve
Paul Mc Cann
says...
> In article <7vnc41$bdc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Steve Holden <de...@coordinated.co.uk> wrote:
> > Dilute washing-up liquid (always used for this very purpose on
> > expensive 16-track recorder at the recording studio I used to work
> > at)? Cheap and cheerful.
>
> Good grief. I've seen just about everything used on a multi-track,
> including nose grease, but never washing up liquid. Wouldn't have thought
> the salt in it would do the bearings any good.
>
>
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unfortunate in their affairs.They get victory, sometimes, but they never
get good will, which would be of more use to them."
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Pamela Hughes
Mark Payne wrote:
>
> Does anybody know where I can buy rubber cleaner/conditioner? About 7
> years ago I was given a 2 fluid oz. bottle of TEAC rubber cleaner
> conditioner, I believe that it was quite expensive. The contents list
> says that it contains aromatic hydrocarbons, antioxidant and no alcohol.
>
> I have always used it to clean pinch rollers but lately have found that
> it's brilliant for removing the glaze on the rubber rollers of some
> paper handling machinery that I use for work. Of course now it's running
> out :-(
Teac/Tascam RC-1 and RC-2 are still available and also come in
their recorder care kit. Think it is basically green dye in
xylene or something like that (most petrolium distillates dry and
crack rubber so if you think you find something that might work,
smell it... the old raid bug spray in the brown glass bottles
smelled exactly the same so they must have used the stuff as a
solvent for the poison. Have to see if I can figure out what it
is... they probably buy the stuff for a buck a gallon from a
chemical supply house). Most head cleaners are either isopropyl
alcohol (anhydrous) or 1,1,1 trichlorethane (don't get this stuff
on your hands as it will dry out your skin real fast... it is also
used on printers and typewriters as it cuts the ink like nothing
else.... IBM techs use it on everything from motors to tape heads)
Dave Plowman
When I worked as a tape op, I wouldn't have wasted that on the machine.;-)
Nigel Orr
wrote:
>chemical supply house). Most head cleaners are either isopropyl
>alcohol (anhydrous) or 1,1,1 trichlorethane
Isn't the latter prohibited by some international convention or
something? It rings a bell as being formerly the solvent in Tipp-Ex
and the like, but I thought it was no longer sold.
As another data point, I've always used isopropyl, and never had any
reported problems. Rubber does age and perish eventually, but if
isopropyl does accelerate it, it can't be by much.
Maybe some rubbers are more sensitive to it than others- I've
generally dealt with pro audio recorders, and some hi-fi items.
Nigel
Mark Payne
>years ago I was given a 2 fluid oz. bottle of TEAC rubber cleaner
with distilled water (50/50)to clean tape heads, pinch rollers, guide
paths etc. I used to work in a radio studio and we had a range of
equipment in there, some seriously old and some new (well new then, it
was 1980) and nothing seemed to suffer from the isopropyl alcohol.
The TEAC cleaner does leave a lot of black on the cleaning cloth (not
used on tape decks) but does make the machine work without stopping or
jamming for a reasonable period of time. For your interest it is a
folder/inserter that folds A4 paper and stuffs it into an envelope, then
seals the envelope. I've tried a couple of different things but the TEAC
cleaner seems to work best so far. Paper handling seems to be a black
art anyway unless you're the Royal Mail and can afford to spend a
quarter of a million or more on each machine. Sorry to go off topic.
I'll definitely try some of the suggestions posted here.
Thanks once again. Sorry about the spam guard!!
sam...@telus.net
Andy Burns
> I have had my Teac rubber cleaner/conditioner since the 80's only to
> run out now that I use it for my pinball machine rubbers. That stuff
> works extremely well. I often wonder what it is because while it is
> a pretty blue colour it sure stinks like some harsh petroleum product
> such as paint thinner.
for Teac RC-1
http://www.plccenter.co.uk/Buy/CAIG%20LABS/RBR100L25C
http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.179/.f
meow...@care2.com
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Andy Burns
> Carbon tetrachloride works well if you still have any, but is truly
> toxic, use with real care.
> Alcohol works
Thought that was supposed to dry and crack rubber?
Dave Liquorice
>> For your interest it is a folder/inserter that folds A4 paper and
>> stuffs it into an envelope, then seals the envelope. I've tried a
>> couple of different things but the TEAC cleaner seems to work best so
>> far.
that real typewriters have behind the paper.
--
Cheers
Dave.
Owain
> > >Does anybody know where I can buy rubber cleaner/conditioner?
Owain
meow...@care2.com
Andy Burns
> On Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:14:35 PM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> meow...@care2.com wrote:
>
>>> Carbon tetrachloride works
>
> nasty:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tetrachloride
What do I have a stash of is Trichoroethane ... though we did use carbon
tet in electronics hobby at school for switch cleaning.
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tracks with. Alongside the liquid mercury to play with as it had such
fascinating properties.
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> Does anybody know where I can buy rubber cleaner/conditioner? About 7
> years ago I was given a 2 fluid oz. bottle of TEAC rubber cleaner
> says that it contains aromatic hydrocarbons, antioxidant and no alcohol.
>
> I have always used it to clean pinch rollers but lately have found that
> it's brilliant for removing the glaze on the rubber rollers of some
> paper handling machinery that I use for work. Of course now it's running
> out :-(
>
>
I remember buying some of this
http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/specials/misc/all/S03
some time ago for that purpose, and it worked brilliantly until the laser printer died of an unrelated problem.
Although they're a US company there seemed to be no problem with shipping at that time.
As some other posters have mentioned the cloth did seem to be quite black after the application, and I was never sure whether that was all dirt or whether it actually took just a fraction off the surface. I've never tried it on pinch rollers!