Jelly crimps

rbel

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Dec 14, 2013, 1:09:29 PM12/14/13

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TLC are now stocking these
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Telephones_and_Accessories_Index/Jelly_Crimp/index.html#Jelly_Crimp

I have used them on recent phone/broadband wiring and found them to be
very quick to fit - Openreach have been using them for a while.

It is a shame that they are not available to take larger diameters.
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Graham.

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Dec 14, 2013, 2:16:50 PM12/14/13

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I think Openreach were using them before they were called Openreach.

For larger wires there is 3M Scotchlok.

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rbel

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Dec 14, 2013, 2:23:08 PM12/14/13

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I thought that the 3M Scotchlok were for very similar sized wire to
the non-branded items available from TLC. I was thinking of something
to replace 1.5mm standard crimps.
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John Rumm

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Dec 14, 2013, 2:45:53 PM12/14/13

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http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA102.html

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rbel

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Dec 14, 2013, 5:12:55 PM12/14/13

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:45:53 +0000, John Rumm
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:

>On 14/12/2013 19:23, rbel wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:16:50 +0000, Graham. <no...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:09:29 +0000, rbel wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> TLC are now stocking these
>>>> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Telephones_and_Accessories_Index/Jelly_Crimp/index.html#Jelly_Crimp
>>>>
>>>> I have used them on recent phone/broadband wiring and found them to be
>>>> very quick to fit - Openreach have been using them for a while.
>>>>
>>>> It is a shame that they are not available to take larger diameters.
>>>
>>> I think Openreach were using them before they were called Openreach.
>>>
>>> For larger wires there is 3M Scotchlok.
>>
>> I thought that the 3M Scotchlok were for very similar sized wire to
>> the non-branded items available from TLC. I was thinking of something
>> to replace 1.5mm standard crimps.
>
>
>http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA102.html

Thanks John. I have been using Wago 222 and 224 for some time but
didn't realise they did a smaller version.
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Dave Liquorice

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Dec 14, 2013, 5:23:11 PM12/14/13

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:45:53 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

>> I thought that the 3M Scotchlok were for very similar sized wire
to
>> the non-branded items available from TLC. I was thinking of
something
>> to replace 1.5mm standard crimps.
>
> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA102.html

No jell fill, if that is important to the OP. They work well enough
but I'm never really convinced there is enough contact area to carry
16A or more...

What I find curious about the TLC info on the jelly beans (which are
IDC not crimp) is the "Use Times: >100". Is there a hole to push the
button and IDC blades back out? I've always thought of jelly beans as
single use.

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rbel

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Dec 15, 2013, 5:44:05 AM12/15/13

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:09:29 +0000, rbel wrote:

>

It seems as though they do
http://www.3mdirect.co.uk/c-1441-scotchlok-electrical-connectors.aspx

- apparently for professional use only :)
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rbel

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Dec 15, 2013, 6:00:51 AM12/15/13

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There is a small hole that is part of the button assembly but, having
depressed the button there appears to be no way to lever the blades up
again (have just managed to bend one of SWMBO's sewing needles trying
it).
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Dave Liquorice

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Dec 15, 2013, 8:29:47 AM12/15/13

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On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:00:51 +0000, rbel wrote:

>> What I find curious about the TLC info on the jelly beans (which
are
>> IDC not crimp) is the "Use Times: >100". Is there a hole to push
the
>> button and IDC blades back out? I've always thought of jelly beans
as
>> single use.
>
> There is a small hole that is part of the button assembly but, having
> depressed the button there appears to be no way to lever the blades up
> again

Nothing on the reverse side to push through? I don't have any
examples to examine without taking the cover off the BT cable joint
across the road... As they are jell filled wouldn't the jell squidge
through any holes when you squeezed the button in to make the joint?
I guess the proper tool could have a pin to block any such holes.

> (have just managed to bend one of SWMBO's sewing needles trying it).

Yipes, that would be an instant hung drawn and quatered offence in
this household.

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Rick Hughes

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Dec 15, 2013, 2:43:03 PM12/15/13

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They were in use by BT before they hived off Open Reach ... may have
even been used by Post Office.

Yendor

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Dec 15, 2013, 2:52:07 PM12/15/13

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Turn the crimp 90 degrees and press with the crimp pliers, they pop out
again. I doubt they would be reusable up to 100 times though.
I only reuse if I am running low, they are that cheap its not worth
getting the gel all over your hands/tools

GMM

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Dec 15, 2013, 4:19:21 PM12/15/13

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On 14/12/2013 19:45, John Rumm wrote:
> On 14/12/2013 19:23, rbel wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:16:50 +0000, Graham. <no...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:09:29 +0000, rbel wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> TLC are now stocking these
>>>> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Telephones_and_Accessories_Index/Jelly_Crimp/index.html#Jelly_Crimp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have used them on recent phone/broadband wiring and found them to be
>>>> very quick to fit - Openreach have been using them for a while.
>>>>
>>>> It is a shame that they are not available to take larger diameters.
>>>
>>> I think Openreach were using them before they were called Openreach.
>>>
>>> For larger wires there is 3M Scotchlok.
>>
>> I thought that the 3M Scotchlok were for very similar sized wire to
>> the non-branded items available from TLC. I was thinking of something
>> to replace 1.5mm standard crimps.
>
>
> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA102.html
>
>

On that topic, I noticed the otehr day in their 'new products' mailing
that Screwfix are now selling 'Ideal' connectors, which look a bit like
some of the Wago range. Dunno if they're any good/better but I guess
it's worth knowing tehre are options...

Mike Tomlinson

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Dec 15, 2013, 4:44:26 PM12/15/13

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En el art�culo <i72ra9ho550igd23m...@4ax.com>, rbel
<?@?.?> escribi�:

>There is a small hole that is part of the button assembly

Are you sure that's not just for the jelly to squeeze out of as the
thing is crimped?

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rbel

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Dec 15, 2013, 6:02:44 PM12/15/13

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I have just tried this with snipe nose pliers and the top flies out
and, in my case, disappeared into the depths of my tool box.

Thanks for the tip.
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