Storage Heater Settings Clarification
Tony Lees
couple of questions:
1) There is a dial with the following instructions written as follows:
No boost - 1 ROOM
Early boost - 9 TEMP
Late boost - 2 BOOST
Without a manual, what am I supposed to do? Are we talking all manual
or is there some inbuilt timer?
2) At the moment the power is straight off the main meter. I've asked
the landlord to put in Economy 7. Will this automatically switch off
outside of Economy 7 hours? If so, what happens if the heaters run
out of juice and I want to put some more in?
tia
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TonyL
tim
"Tony Lees" <nos...@datarev.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I've just encountered storage heaters for the first time. Just a
> couple of questions:
>
> 1) There is a dial with the following instructions written as follows:
>
> No boost - 1 ROOM
> Early boost - 9 TEMP
> Late boost - 2 BOOST
Can't work out what you mean by the above but there's usually 2 controls:
The input one which simply controls a thermostat which turns the input off
when the SH has heated up to the required temp.
The higher the setting the more juice you'll use but the sooner it will get
cold.
This will 'click' as you turn it past the current temp as thermostats
normally do (assuming the SH has been on that is!)
An output (or boost). usually the higher the number the sooner the boost.
This is linked via a bimetalic strip to a 'flap' which opens when the
internal temp
has cooled somewhat (to let what remains of the heat out quicker).
Turning this should give a much larger 'clunk' as the flap opens and closes
and you should be able to feel the difference in heat output from the vents.
This will probably have no effect if the SH is very warm or very cold as the
BM strip will already be at one end of it's range.
If you live a normal lifestyle - returning home after 17:00 and going to bed
after
22:00 you'll want the boost set to minimum. Setting the boost at a high
level
is for when the SHs are used for office heating.
> Without a manual, what am I supposed to do? Are we talking all manual
> or is there some inbuilt timer?
>
> 2) At the moment the power is straight off the main meter. I've asked
> the landlord to put in Economy 7. Will this automatically switch off
> outside of Economy 7 hours?
If connected correctly yes. BTW the landlord can't put in Economy7
only the leccy board can change the meter and they shouldn't connect
the circuits if they don't look correct.
> If so, what happens if the heaters run
> out of juice and I want to put some more in?
You're stuffed <g>. You can get SHs with an extra daytime element but
presumably you're not putting new ones in. You need alternative heating
for these periods. However, the more modern timers are more flexible
with their timing. Mine's set to 22:30 to 00:30 and 02:30 to 07:30. Gives
a much more satisfactorey result and allows the extra heating after 10:30
to be at cheap rate.
HTH
Tim
Peter
tim wrote:
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> The input one which simply controls a thermostat which turns the input off
> when the SH has heated up to the required temp.
> The higher the setting the more juice you'll use but the sooner it will get
> cold.
> This will 'click' as you turn it past the current temp as thermostats
> normally do (assuming the SH has been on that is!)
Think of this control as how much heat energy you want to store in the
bricks, (the temp is related to the amount of heat energy). Therefore
if it is colder outside you might want to up this, don't worry about
storing too much heat for a day or two, it's not really wasted if you
use it right.
> An output (or boost). usually the higher the number the sooner the boost.
> This is linked via a bimetalic strip to a 'flap' which opens when the
> internal temp
> has cooled somewhat (to let what remains of the heat out quicker).
> Turning this should give a much larger 'clunk' as the flap opens and closes
> and you should be able to feel the difference in heat output from the vents.
> This will probably have no effect if the SH is very warm or very cold as the
> BM strip will already be at one end of it's range.
This 'flap' opens on to the center of the bricks in the SH. When the
flap is closed (output set to 1) the SH will still radiate heat to the
room. This is intended to be the main source of heat. If you find it
colder in the evening you can open up the flap to release heat from the
core. The remaining Heat energy in the core means less electricy need
during the next charging period.
Leaving the output high will relase the core heat energy more quickly
leaving none for the evening (or afternoon!) [1]
The thing to control is to make sure that you have enought stored energy
to keep the room warm with the output set to low
> If you live a normal lifestyle - returning home after 17:00 and going to bed
> after
> 22:00 you'll want the boost set to minimum. Setting the boost at a high
> level
> is for when the SHs are used for office heating.
Or boost to a mid setting. Yess if you need it to heat during the day
only then the above holds more.
> > Without a manual, what am I supposed to do? Are we talking all manual
> > or is there some inbuilt timer?
> >
> > 2) At the moment the power is straight off the main meter. I've asked
> > the landlord to put in Economy 7. Will this automatically switch off
> > outside of Economy 7 hours?
>
> If connected correctly yes. BTW the landlord can't put in Economy7
> only the leccy board can change the meter and they shouldn't connect
> the circuits if they don't look correct.
If you have E7 set up in your flat / house then you can connect the
heaters to the consumer unit connected to the timeswitch contacts (there
are a couple of different ways of setting up E7)
>
> > If so, what happens if the heaters run
> > out of juice and I want to put some more in?
>
> You're stuffed <g>.
:-)
But taking what I've said and some experimenting this should happen less
often.
I've got a fan heater which I can use to supliment in the colder
weathers
Peter
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[1] Very counter intuitive which is partially why SH have a poor opnion,
there far too dificult to get working well, I've often said that there
needs to be a PHD in Controling Storage Heaters.
Tony Lees
>
>"Tony Lees" <nos...@datarev.nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:3a6c6453...@news.u-net.net...
>> I've just encountered storage heaters for the first time. Just a
>> couple of questions:
>>
>> 1) There is a dial with the following instructions written as follows:
>>
>> No boost - 1 ROOM
>> Early boost - 9 TEMP
>> Late boost - 2 BOOST
>
>Can't work out what you mean by the above but there's usually 2 controls:
>
>The input one which simply controls a thermostat which turns the input off
>when the SH has heated up to the required temp.
That was the control I did understand so I didn't include it here.
>The higher the setting the more juice you'll use but the sooner it will get
>cold.
>This will 'click' as you turn it past the current temp as thermostats
>normally do (assuming the SH has been on that is!)
>
>An output (or boost). usually the higher the number the sooner the boost.
>This is linked via a bimetalic strip to a 'flap' which opens when the
>internal temp
>has cooled somewhat (to let what remains of the heat out quicker).
Ah, so there is some automation.
>Turning this should give a much larger 'clunk' as the flap opens and closes
>and you should be able to feel the difference in heat output from the vents.
>This will probably have no effect if the SH is very warm or very cold as the
>BM strip will already be at one end of it's range.
>
Yes, I can see a flap move when I turn the dial.
>If you live a normal lifestyle - returning home after 17:00 and going to bed
>after
>22:00 you'll want the boost set to minimum. Setting the boost at a high
>level
>is for when the SHs are used for office heating.
>
I'm in an office.
>> Without a manual, what am I supposed to do? Are we talking all manual
>> or is there some inbuilt timer?
>>
>> 2) At the moment the power is straight off the main meter. I've asked
>> the landlord to put in Economy 7. Will this automatically switch off
>> outside of Economy 7 hours?
>
>If connected correctly yes. BTW the landlord can't put in Economy7
>only the leccy board can change the meter and they shouldn't connect
>the circuits if they don't look correct.
>
I mean, I've asked the landlord to arrange Economy 7.
I think I'm getting the hang of it.
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TonyL
Tony Lees
>
>[1] Very counter intuitive which is partially why SH have a poor opnion,
>there far too dificult to get working well, I've often said that there
>needs to be a PHD in Controling Storage Heaters.
I see what you mean. Work out how much you think you will need next
day. If it is colder than you thought, open the flap and run out too
soon.
Forget you've opened the flap, and you'll run out anyway.
Leave the setting as it is and if you are lucky the bi-metallic strip
will gradual open the flap releasing the dwindling amount of heat to
keep the room warm.
Ensure you don't run out by feeding it full blast overnight and then
swelter the next day if it is warmer than you thought.
Have I got the hang of it now?
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TonyL
Peter Parry
Lees) wrote:
>Have I got the hang of it now?
That's about it :-).
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Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/
Peter
Tony Lees wrote:
>
> Peter <y2k...@spamfree.iname.com> wrote:
> >
> >[1] Very counter intuitive which is partially why SH have a poor opnion,
> >there far too dificult to get working well, I've often said that there
> >needs to be a PHD in Controling Storage Heaters.
>
> I see what you mean. Work out how much you think you will need next
> day. If it is colder than you thought, open the flap and run out too
> soon.
Been there done that.
> Forget you've opened the flap, and you'll run out anyway.
And that...
> Leave the setting as it is and if you are lucky the bi-metallic strip
> will gradual open the flap releasing the dwindling amount of heat to
> keep the room warm.
I think my BiMetallic strip was triped out.
> Ensure you don't run out by feeding it full blast overnight and then
> swelter the next day if it is warmer than you thought.
I've also left the flap open and woke up sweltering mid night :-(
>
> Have I got the hang of it now?
You may think you do....
Good Luck!
John Innes
Going to the extremes will certainly result in this kind of behaviour,
I have my SR's set to 4 on the input and 3 on the output just now, the
house is fine and warm (24c) and doesn't overheat, neither do the
radiators go cold (I could probably do with turning down the input a
bit)
If its really chilly I use a small fan heater to top things up
briefly.
John
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