Low price table saw
ph
B&Q are selling the Rexon BT2500 for £99, this saw is listed on the Rexon
web site at £309.
PH.
Andy Dingley
>B&Q are selling the Rexon BT2500 for £99, this saw is listed on the Rexon
>web site at £309.
That looks like a 200 quid saw, so £99 is a bargain. Is there a B&Q
web page anywhere ? I tried diy.com but couldn't find table saws
anywhere.
Rexon don't have a web site, they have a Flash cartoon with no
clickthrough. 8-(
Lenny Brown
Just like to say ive just bought one of these 3 weeks ago for 149 quid
Im discusted they have dropped the price so soon after my buying one
Ive seen and used a few lowend priced table saws and in my opinion
This saw is worth every penny of the 149 quid I paid ... does anyone
know if i have any comeback...
lenny
Frank
and get your money back, then buy another one at a cheaper price
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Dennis
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> B&Q are selling the Rexon BT2500 for £99, this saw is listed on the Rexon
> web site at £309.
DKS
'Rotozip Mate' kit at Homebase for £129 (some £30 cheaper than their normal
price). My next stop was B&Q where they had the same item on sale for £99.
I shot back to Homebase claiming that a late gift had arrived of a Rotozip
and I didn't need two. They refunded my money.
Whilst I think Homebase provided good service in refunding without question,
if they hadn't been so over priced in the first place, they would have
retained the sale. I remembered then that B&Q have always had a better range
of tools than Homebase and usually 10-20% cheaper too.
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Andy Hall
wrote:
If it's B&Q, they only do price matching for 14 days.
However, they also do a no questions asked return for up to 30 days.
Therefore, all you need to do is take the saw back, obtain a refund
and buy again at the lower price.
Al Reynolds
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> I must own up to doing something similar. At the New Year Sales I bought a
> 'Rotozip Mate' kit at Homebase for £129 (some £30 cheaper than their
normal
> price). My next stop was B&Q where they had the same item on sale for £99.
>
> I shot back to Homebase claiming that a late gift had arrived of a Rotozip
> and I didn't need two. They refunded my money.
>
> Whilst I think Homebase provided good service in refunding without
question,
> if they hadn't been so over priced in the first place, they would have
> retained the sale. I remembered then that B&Q have always had a better
range
> of tools than Homebase and usually 10-20% cheaper too.
I had a friend who, while Homebase were
still doing Reward points for Air Miles, would
operate the following system:
(1) Buy overpriced power tool in Homebase,
collecting lots of reward points (and therefore
Air Miles) on the purchase.
(2) Go along to B&Q Warehouse next door
and find out the (invariably) cheaper price.
(3) Go back to Homebase and ask them to price
match the B&Q price.
(4) Homebase then refund the full original value
(but don't take back the reward points) and charge
the reduced value (sometimes with an extra 10% off)
as well as allocating a new lot of reward points
(and therefore Air Miles).
Thus my friend ends up with a power tool at B&Q
price (or sometimes less) and roughly double the
normal allocation of Air Miles!
In case you're wondering about the value of collecting
reward points for air miles, during the time Sainsbury's
and Homebase were operating the scheme, my friend
managed to travel to Canada twice and Grand Cayman
three times on the strength of the air miles from them!
ph
Take it back, tell them it is no good for what you want to do with it, then
buy a new one with your refund.
ph
ph
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Always know a bargain when it jumps up and bites you on the ass
mike
> clickthrough. 8-(
There's a menu across the top.
Lenny Brown
Took mine back this morning said it sounds like the bearings were
going they refunded me 149quid bought a new one and some legs (29 quid
) still enden up 20 quid better off
thanks that man..
Lenny
Laurie Rose
I asked Rexon. They replied::
"If your machine is a BT2500A it is a Soft Start Brush motor. BT2500AE
is a Brush motor."
Are induction motors that much more expensive to manufacture?
Andy Dingley
>> Rexon don't have a web site, they have a Flash cartoon with no
>> clickthrough. 8-(
>
>Try http://www.rexon.co.uk/
Only works if you have Flash, you can't bookmark it, and you can't
describe a URL to the relevant page. Piss-poor web design (but
that's a topic for another newsgroup)
Andy Dingley
>Are induction motors that much more expensive to manufacture?
Yes. The maximum torque / weight ratio is much better for brush
motors, so there are some fundamental cost-of-materials reasons why
they're always going to be cheaper than induction.
Soft start brush motors are a good idea on domestic grade kit. They
avoid the worst of the brush motor, the _enormous_ bang on startup,
and that type of kit probably isn't going to get enough use to see
serious brush or commutator wear.
I have the very similar Axminster BTS10, which makes a truly
terrifying noise on startup, but otherwise works pretty well (fence
accuracy could be better). I stockpiled a spare set of brushes while
they're still easily available, and I think these will keep it running
for the useful working life of the saw. Anything worth replacing it by
would cost me at least 5 times as much, so I'm pretty satisfied with
it overall.
The cheapest TS with an induction motor (AFAIK) is the Record. I know
two peole with these, both of whom complain loudly about their other
aspects.
Peter Ashby
Andy Dingley <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote:
>
> The cheapest TS with an induction motor (AFAIK) is the Record. I know
> two peole with these, both of whom complain loudly about their other
> aspects.
Which are? I'm thinking of persuading SWMBO to let me have one. I'm
looking at the basic Elektra-Beckum since it has the option of a sliding
table etc. I'm basically after reasonable accuracy at not too much money.
Peter
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stuart noble
Lenny Brown wrote in message ...
>Took mine back this morning said it sounds like the bearings were
>going they refunded me 149quid bought a new one and some legs (29 quid
>) still enden up 20 quid better off
So how good is this saw? I'd put up with the noise of the brush motor in
exchange for the lightness. If the fence doesn't move, or can be prevented
from doing so easily with a clamp from the back, then it sounds a useful
piece of kit. Presumably it's belt driven? I have a flipover site saw but,
at 35kgs, it's hardly portable.
ph
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the money I find it quite a good saw, rips through 3/4 ply all day long. in
fact for £99 I may just buy a couple as spares.
PH
Mike Dodd
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Ah, good. The Saw I've just bought is supposed to be that loud then ! Scared
the begeebies out of me first time. (did see the Rexon, even asked about it
in here, decided to go for the performance-pro one [whatever] for the larger
bed and the stand - wonder how much that'll cost in 3 weeks time)
Andy Dingley
<p.r....@MAPS.dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
[defects of the Record table saw]
>Which are?
Well one of them posts here, so I'll let him answer.
The other just doesn't reckon much to its fence rigidity. Now this is
always going to be an early thing to suffer on any cheap table saw,
but it's pretty important if you're making furniture.
The supplied own-brand blade on the Axminster also seems to leave a
better cut than the Record.
Dennis
>
> For £99 you are not going to get an induction motor.
> Always know a bargain when it jumps up and bites you on the ass
Trouble with brush motors - it takes 10 mins to settle the nerves for a cut,
during which time the saw has relocated itself :)
Screwloose are doing an induction one for 160 squids, vol 68 page 294
Den.
mike
opening the frame in a new window (if you have Flash in the first
place...)
http://www.rexon.co.uk/table2.htm
Andrew Vevers
Went for a look last night. It looks a pretty good machine for the price.
However the legs and extra side supports to the table top are optional
extras which will cost another £29 for each kit, so all in it'll be £160.
This is still quite reasonable if it does the job.
My concern is whether the cross cutting fence is sturdy enough to get really
accurate 90 degree cuts.
Andrew Vevers
Chris Melluish
> If it's B&Q, they only do price matching for 14 days.
>
> However, they also do a no questions asked return for up to 30 days.
>
Really?. I bought a B&Q 320W Kompact drill/driver a month or so ago for £19
something because my cordless screwdriver and drill weren't up to the job I
was doing. I found it useless for screwdriving - I was using 4in number 12s
and it just sat there emitting sparks and a nasty burning smell. I took it
back next day and accused it of being gutless. They argued - saying it was
not meant for screwdriving, it was a drill. I did eventually get a refund
but I was surprised how difficult it was.
--
Chris Melluish
Thos
for £289, they are ex demo but in first class condition. I spent a lot of
time researching saws and being on a budget from SHMBO made this decision.
This saw has an induction motor and is almost whisper quiet.
Havant made much sawdust yet, but when I can sort out my garage and get rid
of my daughters surplus furniture I'll get started.
I am happy with it so far though, have a look at their web site
http://www.elektra-beckum.com/com/english/elektra-beckum/
also have a look at the Record site, a very honest discussion group that put
me off buying a Record!!!!!!!
http://www.recordpower.co.uk/tisql/default.asp
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Rob
Make yourself a cross cutting sledge and use the rip fence.
The mitre fence seems a bit sloppy in the guide slot but no more than
any other sub £300 saw.
I bought one last night, but haven't had a chance to play with it yet.
Couldn't see any quality difference between that and the £300 'Pro' own
brand table saw in B&Q. It's doesn't seem like a precision tool, but I
couldn't get much of a hand held circular saw for that money.
Marcel Jansen
<din...@codesmiths.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:15:13 +0000, Peter Ashby
><p.r....@MAPS.dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>[defects of the Record table saw]
>
>>Which are?
>
>Well one of them posts here, so I'll let him answer.
[ Defects of the record saw as opposed to to induction
saws in general ]
Yeah, that's me.
pro: quiet, easy blade change, no obvious runout or wobble on blade
con: top not flat, mitre slots crap, blade wasn't parrallel
off-factory, quality of the screws is a joke.
It's usable with a decent blade and crosscut sled and it did cut
2" beech without complaining.
>The other just doesn't reckon much to its fence rigidity. Now this is
>always going to be an early thing to suffer on any cheap table saw,
>but it's pretty important if you're making furniture.
When it's an important cut I clamp the fence.
The slightly bigger Record RSTS 12 was recently mentioned on
uk_woodworking: one good experience, one bad.
Marcel
Andy Hall
With faulty product I've tended to do even better. A couple of years
back I bought a B&D Scorpion saw which proved to be a piece of junk -
it jammed repeatedly. I returned it and accepted another. This too
was faulty (overheated). I took that back, asked for a refund and was
offered a third saw which I declined. I could see that the returns
counter person was going to try to force the issue so I simply asked
to see the manager. He duly arrived and I asked for a refund and
some compensation fo rmy inconvenience. The refund happened, plus
£20 of store credit. Sensible fellow. They lost very little because
they would send the saw back to the manufacturer, and spent £20 on
securing a happy customer. I make it a rule never to get into a
debate with the counter staff but always ask for the manager if it
looks as though there will be any disagreement. That way the manager
can make a decision in the customer's favour without being seen not
to back his staff.
Peter Ashby
"Thos" <twa...@qblueyqonderq.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks for the response guys, this is much more valuable in many ways to
mag. reviews.
> Have just bought the TKHS 315 E/P from Pyatt Woodworking in Staffordshire
> for £289, they are ex demo but in first class condition. I spent a lot of
> time researching saws and being on a budget from SHMBO made this decision.
> This saw has an induction motor and is almost whisper quiet.
> Havant made much sawdust yet, but when I can sort out my garage and get rid
> of my daughters surplus furniture I'll get started.
> I am happy with it so far though, have a look at their web site
>
> http://www.elektra-beckum.com/com/english/elektra-beckum/
Do you have contact details for Pyatt? This one was interesting but I'm
still inclined towards the PK200 on the basis of it being expandable
both in terms of extensions but also a sliding table. I liked the
ability to retract the riving knife as well, much easier than removing
it. I would like to stretcht to the full package straight off but I
suspect I will have to buy the basic saw and persuade SWMBO by the
results that the others are needed. A few wobbly cuts in sheet material
with the circular saw should unlock the sliding table for eg. ;-)
> also have a look at the Record site, a very honest discussion group that put
> me off buying a Record!!!!!!!
> http://www.recordpower.co.uk/tisql/default.asp
>
Hmm, I think I see what you mean. I was intrigued by the new Record
range (mainly the price) so I might drop in there occasionally to
monitor things like the bandsaws.
Thos
which is described as "professional" not sure about the PK 200 It wont hurt
to try him>
Good Luck!!!news:p.r.ashby-804A2...@dux.dundee.ac.uk...
Mike Dodd
??? Sorry, can't hear you, used my table saw last night, ears still ringing.
Regards.
Peter Ashby
"Mike Dodd" <mike...@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> : Are brush motors really that noisy?
>
> ??? Sorry, can't hear you, used my table saw last night, ears still ringing.
You mean you neglected to spend as much again on ear protection? I SAID:
YOU MEAN.....
PETER
Andy Dingley
<p.r....@MAPS.dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
>You mean you neglected to spend as much again on ear protection? I
I had ear protection. Then it was so damned cold that when I went to
put them on, the headband snapped clean through.
Peter Ashby
I know what you mean, I winced the last time I put mine on. I feared my
ears would fall off, the ear protectors were so cold. Then at the
weekend it was so warm I actually did a glue up out in the garage.
Peter
John Hewitt
Peter, what is a sliding table? and what does it do in addition to a
fence and a miter??
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:15:13 +0000, Peter Ashby
<p.r....@MAPS.dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
>Which are? I'm thinking of persuading SWMBO to let me have one. I'm
>looking at the basic Elektra-Beckum since it has the option of a sliding
>table etc. I'm basically after reasonable accuracy at not too much money.
>
>Peter
>
>--
>Peter Ashby
>Wellcome Trust Biocentre
>University of Dundee, Scotland
>Reverse the Spam and remove to email me.
Email address omitted contra Spam.
John Hewitt, Malaga.