Strange WiFi SSID

[Spike]

In the last day or two a new network has appeared on my computer’s WiFi
list.

It has the name of
(quote)
Living Room Display.C0EB.ync,
(unquote).

Google is not being my friend in determining what this might relate to, the
style being somewhat unusual. Yes, there is a comma after ync.

Does anyone on the group have any suggestions as to what might be using
this SSID?

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Spike

[Andy Burns]

Spike wrote:

> It has the name of
> (quote)
> Living Room Display.C0EB.ync,
> (unquote).

Looks like a google home device (nest speaker/clock/display hub) that
has lost its connection to the router's SSID and reverted to its own
SSID ready for pairing ... could be from a neighbour, rather than yours?

[Spike]

It’s definitely not mine! Signal strength suggests a close neighbour.

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Spike

[John Rumm]

See if you can get your router or wireless access point to show you the
mac address of the device.

Then you can look up the device manufacturer here:

https://macvendors.com/
or
http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/




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[Spike]

John Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:
> On 12/02/2023 12:28, Spike wrote:
>>
>> In the last day or two a new network has appeared on my computer’s WiFi
>> list.
>>
>> It has the name of
>> (quote)
>> Living Room Display.C0EB.ync,
>> (unquote).
>>
>> Google is not being my friend in determining what this might relate to, the
>> style being somewhat unusual. Yes, there is a comma after ync.
>>
>> Does anyone on the group have any suggestions as to what might be using
>> this SSID?
>
> See if you can get your router or wireless access point to show you the
> mac address of the device.
>
> Then you can look up the device manufacturer here:
>
> https://macvendors.com/
> or
> http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/

The MAC address is showing on both sites as ‘Unknown’ :-(

--
Spike

[Jack Harry Teesdale]

Perhaps it's a Smart meter display in a neighbouring property?

[Spike]

One of our neighbours said something about getting a smart meter, it could
well be them.

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Spike

[John Rumm]

On 12/02/2023 13:55, Spike wrote:

There are some other sites:

https://www.macvendorlookup.com/
https://macaddress.io/

(try just the first three groups of digits - that usually IDs the maker)

[SH]

what about devices that deliberately change their MAC address repeatedly
in an attenpt to defeat trackers?

(I'm looking specifically at iDevices and Android devices :-) )

(it causes no end of trouble for me when I set up a MAC address Allow
list and block lists.... particularly when there is an update to the
device's OS.)

[Spike]

Thanks, but it just shows up as ‘no vendor’ or ‘unknown’. I’m beginning to
think it’s an anti tracker address, as suggested by SH (for which, thanks).

The neighbour concerned has a WiFi address of VMnnnnnnn and what seems to
be a subset of that that shows up as VMnnnnnnn_EXT.

The former, presumably the main network, has been missing ever since the
mystery broadcaster appeared, but now there are no WiFi SSIDs being
broadcast at all.

I suspect that for whatever reason the main network has gone down, and now
the other parts of the network have given up looking for it.

The only reason I discovered all this is that I’ve just put in a new
router, and saw the WiFi networks when getting things set up.

--
Spike

[Spike]

Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:

<snipped for brevity>

> Thanks, but it just shows up as ‘no vendor’ or ‘unknown’. I’m beginning to
> think it’s an anti tracker address, as suggested by SH (for which, thanks).
>
> The neighbour concerned has a WiFi address of VMnnnnnnn and what seems to
> be a subset of that that shows up as VMnnnnnnn_EXT.
>
> The former, presumably the main network, has been missing ever since the
> mystery broadcaster appeared, but now there are no WiFi SSIDs being
> broadcast at all.
>
> I suspect that for whatever reason the main network has gone down, and now
> the other parts of the network have given up looking for it.
>
> The only reason I discovered all this is that I’ve just put in a new
> router, and saw the WiFi networks when getting things set up.

Update:

The mystery SSID started broadcasting again, and I had time to open up the
‘information’ link and turn off Private WiFi address, getting the true MAC
address, which the links suggested show it belongs to Apple Inc.


--
Spike

[Michael Chare]

On 12/02/2023 12:28, Spike wrote:
>

You may be able to learn more by running software such as Acrylic on a
Windows device with Wifi hardware. It will show you the MAC addresses of
any wifi SSISs.


--
Michael Chare

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 12/02/2023 22:34, Spike wrote:
> Update:
>
> The mystery SSID started broadcasting again, and I had time to open up the
> ‘information’ link and turn off Private WiFi address, getting the true MAC
> address, which the links suggested show it belongs to Apple Inc.
>

Who else?

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[Spike]

The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/02/2023 22:34, Spike wrote:
>> Update:
>>
>> The mystery SSID started broadcasting again, and I had time to open up the
>> ‘information’ link and turn off Private WiFi address, getting the true MAC
>> address, which the links suggested show it belongs to Apple Inc.
>>
> Who else?

:-)

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Spike

[Brian Gaff]

You may need to actually ask them, in case they are not aware of what is
going on.

I had this careful with a blink Doorbell setting up its own wifi the other
day.
Weird.
Brian

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[Brian Gaff]

Well, I see no wifi activity from mine, its supposed to be using bluetooth.

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> You may need to actually ask them, in case they are not aware of what is
> going on.
>
> I had this careful with a blink Doorbell setting up its own wifi the other
> day.

My printer transmits its own SSID, presumably to allow new computers to
search for printers and then configure the PC to use that printer on the
normal wifi. And it does so all the time, not just for a few minutes when it
is put in "discovery mode".

[SH]

>>
>> (try just the first three groups of digits - that usually IDs the maker)
>
> Thanks, but it just shows up as ‘no vendor’ or ‘unknown’. I’m beginning to
> think it’s an anti tracker address, as suggested by SH (for which, thanks).
>
> The neighbour concerned has a WiFi address of VMnnnnnnn and what seems to
> be a subset of that that shows up as VMnnnnnnn_EXT.

Thats a virgin media router as they all have a default SSID of VMnnnnnn
until you change it.

[Brian]

Given the ‘display’ detail in your earlier post (Sittingroom display?),
plus the new Apple information, my guess would be they are using something
like Apple AirPlay, either the real thing or a compatible system.

For those unfamiliar with Airplay - and I’m not an expert on the detail- it
allows video etc to be set from an Apple device (usually a phone / iPad ),
typically to a TV via Wi-Fi. I’ve never had need of it myself so that is
about the limit of my knowledge.

If you have an iPhone, you could see if it detects any Airplay compatible
devices nearby.

[Brian]

That was my thought, until Spike mentioned Apple.

I wondered if, perhaps, one of his devices had updated / reset and was
sending two SSIDs ( not unknown) or it could be a neighbour doing the same.


Even (some) smart plugs have a mode when they set up a “weak” local network
you connect to, enter the details of your secure, real, network, and it
stores them for future use. I don’t recall seeing a smart plug ever
transmitting it’s own network again- unless put into the mode- but I had an
access point which seemed to have a mind of its own and would transmit the
SSID I set up plus the default one from time to time. You could connect to
it, with the pw for ‘my’ SSID. ??? A replacement did the same.

[Spike]

That sounds quite plausible. Like you, I’m unfamiliar with Airplay, so
wouldn’t know what it might send out as it’s ‘set up’ network, although we
do have devices here (not Apple) that have used temporary ‘set up’
networks.

I can’t detect anything other than than the usual SSIDs, plus the strange
one originally mentioned.

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Spike

[Andy Burns]

Spike wrote:

> I can’t detect anything other than than the usual SSIDs, plus the strange
> one originally mentioned.

The real question is why are you bothered by it?

[Spike]

I was setting up a new router’s WiFi, and saw an SSID of a style I’d never
seen before, and wondered what it might relate to.

It seems like no-one on the group really knows either, but if you don’t
ask, you don’t get.

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Spike

[The Natural Philosopher]

Oh I think its pretty clear its some bass ackwards Apple gadget.
Airplay sounds plausible.

I thought its was TwoBlooth, bot it might well be FEE WEE.

Sister has one. dial into film on an I-pad and it comes up on t'tellybox

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