How to raggle a brick wall?
mark....@totalise.co.uk
for a shower.
What is the best method to cut the raggle?
I tried a bolster and hammer, but think I'm likley to knock the wall
down using this method!
Mark.
Cicero
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Hire or buy a 'wall chaser' like this:
Alternatively cut two parallel grooves with an ordinary angle grinder and
chisel out the waste between the grooves. Be prepared for a lot of dust
whichever method you use.
Cic.
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mark....@totalise.co.uk
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:39:21 -0700, mark.hannah wrote:
> > I'd like to raggle the brick wall in my bathroom to accept a 15mm pipe for
> > a shower.
> > What is the best method to cut the raggle?
>
> > I tried a bolster and hammer, but think I'm likley to knock the wall down
> > using this method!
>
> > Mark.
>
> ==================================
> Hire or buy a 'wall chaser' like this:
>
>
> Alternatively cut two parallel grooves with an ordinary angle grinder and
> chisel out the waste between the grooves. Be prepared for a lot of dust
> whichever method you use.
>
> Cic.
>
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Wow - that's some machine!
I think I'll use my angle grinder - what type of disc would you
recommed for the job?
Mark
Cicero
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Diamond - quicker than standard abrasive and slightly less dust although
I don't think you'll really notice!
mark....@totalise.co.uk
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Many thanks!
John Rumm
> I'd like to raggle the brick wall in my bathroom to accept a 15mm pipe
> for a shower.
> What is the best method to cut the raggle?
Oh, now there is a term I had not heard before ;-) I guess you mean how
do you cut a chase...
> I tried a bolster and hammer, but think I'm likley to knock the wall
> down using this method!
It will work, but is 'kin hard work if the bricks are hard. Wall chaser
or SDS are your best bets. Detail covered here:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Wall_chaser
If you are going to try the angle grinder approach then read the
warnings about dust and take note! You can reduce the dust created a
little by having an assistant position a vacuum nozzle just under the
cutting disc for you as you work.
Failing that, the wall chaser that Cicero linked to (its the model I
use) will make practically no dust at all if hooked up to a decent vacuum.
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Cicero
> mark....@totalise.co.uk wrote:
>
>> I'd like to raggle the brick wall in my bathroom to accept a 15mm pipe
>> for a shower.
>> What is the best method to cut the raggle?
>
> Oh, now there is a term I had not heard before ;-) I guess you mean how do
> you cut a chase...
>
>
<snipped>
Given the context I thought it ('raggle') was a strange corruption of
'rebate / rabbet' but clearly not:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=raggle&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB
You learn something new every day and forget as much too!
Cic.
John Rumm
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:11:27 +0100, John Rumm wrote:
>
>> mark....@totalise.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to raggle the brick wall in my bathroom to accept a 15mm pipe
>>> for a shower.
>>> What is the best method to cut the raggle?
>> Oh, now there is a term I had not heard before ;-) I guess you mean how do
>> you cut a chase...
>>
>>
> <snipped>
>
> Given the context I thought it ('raggle') was a strange corruption of
> 'rebate / rabbet' but clearly not:
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=raggle&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB
yup, fair enough...
> You learn something new every day and forget as much too!
or worse, forget more!
Andy Dingley
> I'd like to raggle the brick wall in my bathroom to accept a 15mm pipe
> for a shower.
> What is the best method to cut the raggle?
You cut raggles with an angle grinder and a normal stone cutting disk.
Diamond disks are too narrow to get the lead in easily.
This isn't a raggle though, if it's big enough to put a pipe in --
that's a chase. Raggles are narrow slots, as used for flashing.
When cutting chases in these days of power tools, the question isn't
how to cut it (that's now easy) but how to cut it with the least
flying dust. For that reason, if you're working in a house that's
already decorated, it's worth hiring a twin-disk chaser with a built
in dust hood. You can do the job in minutes with an angle grinder, but
you'll spend hours clearing up afterwards.
Andrew Mawson
"Andy Dingley" <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
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Is that when the lady of the house looses her raggle ?
AWEM
robgraham
'Raggle' appears to be Scots, though the Scottish Dictionary gives its
roots as medieval English. The most likely looking source is the
Latin 'regula' for a straight line.
I have heard the word but not for a long time.
Rob
ARWadsworth
"John Rumm" <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote in message
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> mark....@totalise.co.uk wrote:
>
>> I'd like to raggle the brick wall in my bathroom to accept a 15mm pipe
>> for a shower.
>> What is the best method to cut the raggle?
>
> Oh, now there is a term I had not heard before ;-) I guess you mean how do
> you cut a chase...
>
>> I tried a bolster and hammer, but think I'm likley to knock the wall
>> down using this method!
>
> It will work, but is 'kin hard work if the bricks are hard. Wall chaser or
> SDS are your best bets. Detail covered here:
>
> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Wall_chaser
>
> If you are going to try the angle grinder approach then read the warnings
> about dust and take note! You can reduce the dust created a little by
> having an assistant position a vacuum nozzle just under the cutting disc
> for you as you work.
>
> Failing that, the wall chaser that Cicero linked to (its the model I use)
> will make practically no dust at all if hooked up to a decent vacuum.
What vacuum John? I find the Henry does not like fine dust. I know it only
take a minute to bang the filter clean. Am I expecting too much of the
vacuum?
Adam
John Rumm
> What vacuum John? I find the Henry does not like fine dust. I know it
> only take a minute to bang the filter clean. Am I expecting too much of
> the vacuum?
Anything with a filter or bag will hate plaster dust - new gypsum
plaster being worse than old lime stuff.
I usually use either a pre-filter cyclone on a ordinary shop vac (a
henry would be ok here), but even that clogs in time due to the finest
stuff getting through my (none to sophisticated cyclone):
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Vacuum_Cleaners#Cyclone
For a quick job I use my Dyson. In the case of my old DC01 it is better
with the HEPA filter removed - some dust will get through but not much.
My DC14 however will capture pretty well anything without noticeable
filter clogging.
If doing it day in and day out then perhaps one of the cyclone
collectors as used by chimney sweeps would work quite well.
Peter Ashby
Well mine did complain about the dust when I had to sand the walls of
the hallway recently. But since my doing it was her idea and prior to
beginning to strip the wallpaper I did warn her much work might be
required to get a paintable surface. As time moved on though her
patience did wear thin...
Peter
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chris French
Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
>mark....@totalise.co.uk wrote:
>
>> I'd like to raggle the brick wall in my bathroom to accept a 15mm pipe
>> for a shower.
>> What is the best method to cut the raggle?
>
>Oh, now there is a term I had not heard before ;-) I guess you mean how
>do you cut a chase...
>
>> I tried a bolster and hammer, but think I'm likley to knock the wall
>> down using this method!
>
>It will work, but is 'kin hard work if the bricks are hard. Wall chaser
>or SDS are your best bets. Detail covered here:
>
>http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Wall_chaser
>
>If you are going to try the angle grinder approach then read the
>warnings about dust and take note! You can reduce the dust created a
>little by having an assistant position a vacuum nozzle just under the
>cutting disc for you as you work.
>
Yup, BTDTGTTS as well, it creates an amazing amount of dust - or rather
once it's all trapped in a room as opposed to being allowed to blow away
you notice how much there is.- I could hardly see where I was cutting.
I'd not do it again.
I'd either get a chaser, or use the SDS depending on the size of the
job.
>
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Chris French
mark....@totalise.co.uk
wrote:
> In message <46768485$0$8714$ed261...@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, John
> Rumm <see.my.signat...@nowhere.null> writes
>
> - Show quoted text -
Used the angle grinder with a diamond disc - did the job a treat -
created a lot of dust - we had to evacuate the house at one point and
watch it billowing out of the windows and doors.
And I get to repeat the fun again soon because it turns out now that
the chase/raggle may well be in the wrong position.
:-(
Mark.
kenny wilson
use scutching chisel it has teeth to let u cut the brick in smaller parts cost
small chisel £4 large chisel £6 hope that helps that is what iam using just
now
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> replying to Cicero, kenny wilson wrote:
> use scutching chisel it has teeth to let u cut the brick in smaller parts cost
> small chisel £4 large chisel £6 hope that helps that is what iam using just
> now
>
waiting for, numpty.
Tim
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> kenny wilson <caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote:
> > use scutching chisel it has teeth to let u cut the brick in smaller parts cost
> > small chisel £4 large chisel £6 hope that helps that is what iam using just
> > now
> >
>
> Brilliant! 9 years later I'm sure that the info that Cicero has been
> waiting for, numpty.
NT
Andy Burns
> Tim+ wrote:
>
>> kenny wilson wrote:
>>
>>> use scutching chisel it has teeth to let u cut the brick in
>>> smaller parts cost small chisel £4 large chisel £6 hope that
>> Brilliant! 9 years later I'm sure that the info that Cicero has been
>> waiting for, numpty.
>
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