Transporting glass
Rick Hughes
W/end project ... just bought a large greenhouse ... will be dismantling it,
and transporting 35 miles.
Glass is horticultural glass 3mm thick ... which makes it easily broken.
I have a trailer so all Aluminum bars & fittings, doors, windows etc., can
go in that ... however trying to figure out best way to transport 50+ panes
of glass ... each 28" x 28"
Assuming putting them in trailer will result in lots of broken glass by time
I get home !
Will be using a 4x4 to tow trailer, so I could lay glass flat in back of
that, if so is it best to lay glass on glass ... or put a sheet of newspaper
between each pane ? ........ or any other suggestions.?
The Natural Philosopher
> Anybody ever moved large quantities of glass ?
>
Yes, I broke a lot of it.
Dont ask me!
Phil L
It has to be stood up, laying it flat is definately out of the question.
Stack against one of the seats on the 4x4, the enire stack should be no more
than a foot in depth.
Lay them on a sheet, then overwrap the bottom corners so that they don't
slide about, also, jam a sheet between them and something solid, like the
front seat and/or the doors.
Obviously no passengers and drive like there's a newborn baby in the car and
they'll make it OK, trust me I've moved tonnes of glass of all shapes and
sizes over the years without a single fatality
--
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H. Neary
Flat, glass on glass sounds o/k but glass doesn't flex too well and
any stress will be transmitted directly to the sheet above.
commercial carriers seem to prefer the upright mode. I would go for
this. Edge down on a flat surface covered with a thin layer of
cardboard. All panes in contact as vertical as possible and make sure
that the sides are firmly enclosed in something lined with cadboard or
similar.
Another approach would be to just ensure that all but one pane was
loaded onto the trailer unbroken. Climb into the drivers seat with the
remaining pane and support it between chin and dashboard for the
journey home.......................
HN
Tabby
*Always* move it upright on edge. Forces and vibration during
transport are both mainly downward, and if laid horizontal the forces
are multiplied by all the pieces on top of it.
NT
Rick Hughes
"Tabby" <meow...@care2.com> wrote in message
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On edge it is then .... what I might do it have a thick piece of cardboard
down first the stack them on edge on this, then put a cargo strap around the
lot with protection padding on sides.
If you hear a lot of tinkling sounds followed by loud swearing coming form
S.Wales area on Sunday ... probably best to keep clear.
Rick Hughes
"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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I won't then :-)
harry
You need to clean the glass and stack it on it's edge with nothing
trapped between the panes. You need lots of cushion/old carpets etc
to wedge it so it can't flop about and put several layers of carpet
on the floor where you sack it. Drive slowly and avoid hard cornering/
heavy braking.
Wear gloves, the edges are pretty sharp.
Tim Lamb
<86afab27-c969-471f...@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Tabby <meow...@care2.com> writes
Yes.
The worst possible method is stacked flat with a bit of grit/brass nail
etc. trapped part way up the heap.
regards
--
Tim Lamb
Norman Billingham
"harry" <harol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Kevlar gloves from e.g. Screwfix are excellent for handling glass as they
are highly cut resistant (though not as good in puncture resistance)
Harry Bloomfield
> Anybody ever moved large quantities of glass ?
>
> W/end project ... just bought a large greenhouse ... will be dismantling it,
> and transporting 35 miles.
>
> Glass is horticultural glass 3mm thick ... which makes it easily broken.
>
Very fragile, very brittle.
I would suggest vertical, so each pane only carries its own weight, but
all sat on several layers of thick blanket and cardboard to provide
some cushioning. Of course make sure they cannot possibly fall over and
I would suggest they be leaned forward rather than back - its easier to
be gentle with acceleration than sometimes the braking.
--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
Lobster
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> Anybody ever moved large quantities of glass ?
>
> W/end project ... just bought a large greenhouse ... will be dismantling
> it, and transporting 35 miles.
>
> Glass is horticultural glass 3mm thick ... which makes it easily broken.
>
> I have a trailer so all Aluminum bars & fittings, doors, windows etc., can
There'll be a hell of a lot more bouncing around in the trailer than in the
vehicle, and it would be far safer not to use the trailer.... dunno how much
you'd fit in the car at one go, so it could take several trips :(
David
Dave Liquorice
> On edge it is then .... what I might do it have a thick piece of
> cardboard down first the stack them on edge on this,
I'd also put separators between each pane, it will have bits of grit
and muck on it. Bits of thin card folded around the edge a few inches
in from each corner on alternate panes.
> then put a cargo strap around the lot with protection padding on sides.
But not very tight...
28" x 28" x 3mm sounds horribly fragile to me. I wonder how many will
survive the dismantling of the greenhouse? With corroded clips etc...
--
Cheers
Dave.
Andy Dingley
Yes, two greenhouses. One was brand new and came well packed, the
other was a refurb job, that we transported in the packing materials
of the first.
Glass travelled in a couple of wooden crates. These were made for the
job, greenhouse pane sized, but were only simple nail-ups from pallet
timber and you could make them yourself quite easily. Panes within
this were stacked vertically, with corrugated carboard between each
pane.
Didn't lose a pane in transport (OTOH dismantling was a bit of a
triage). Packing did take ages, but it seemed to do the job.
If it's aluminium, make sure you don't twist anything when carrying
big assembled panels around. Easily done, very hard to remedy.
stuart noble
Best to stack them upright,leaning 10 degs or so against one side of the
vehicle with chipboard or ply behind them and under them. How you stop
the pile moving depends on the vehicle layout, but they must be *firmly*
wedged against the opposite side somehow. Lengths of wood rather than
cushions.
Ideally you need a wooden frame lashed to the side of the vehicle that
you can tie a rope to, but I doubt you'll have any convenient fixing points.
Jules Richardson
> Rick Hughes wrote:
>> Anybody ever moved large quantities of glass ?
>>
>>
> Yes, I broke a lot of it.
It's a bit like Lego though. Just buy some glue and reassemble at the far
end.
(last time I moved lots of glass it all made it home OK - then I dropped
a couple of sheets getting them out of the truck. Duh. Thankfully this
was all stuff that "might come in handy one day" so it wasn't a big deal)
cheers
Jules
Andy Champ
>
> You need to clean the glass and stack it on it's edge with nothing
> trapped between the panes.
If you stack them when clean and wet they'll stick together.
Andy
dennis@home
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I have never seen glass transported lying down by any glass manufacturer.
I expect its the wrong thing to do.
Rick Hughes
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>
> W/end project ... just bought a large greenhouse ... will be dismantling
> it, and transporting 35 miles.
>
Update - job went well ... although estimate of 50 panes was a tad out ...
there were 116 of them !
All driven home without a single one breaking .......thanks for the tips.
Now have to create a base ... thought I had given up mixing concrete for
ever, looks like a 1.3 cu m of mix is going to be needed.
Invisible Man
Well done. I understand that glass is a supercooled liquid but that
given enough time it starts solidifying. Handled correctly fairly new
glass is not too bad. Once it gets 50 years old it is far more brittle.
Skipweasel
says...
> Well done. I understand that glass is a supercooled liquid but that
> given enough time it starts solidifying.
>
Common misconception, that one. It's a solid - just an amorphous one in
which the atoms didn't have time to find a regular alignment.
--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.
Man at B&Q
<harry.m1...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Rick Hughes formulated on Friday :
>
> > Anybody ever moved large quantities of glass ?
>
> > W/end project ... just bought a large greenhouse ... will be dismantling it,
> > and transporting 35 miles.
>
> > Glass is horticultural glass 3mm thick ... which makes it easily broken.
>
> Very fragile, very brittle.
Even more so if it's old.
We twice moved a wodden sectional g/house with the glass left in the
frame sections. Once in a tiny bedford refridgerated van (had to give
the van a good clean afterwards before taking back to the caterers,
another time the removal men took it for us. Quite succesful both
times.
MBQ