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Roger Mills

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Jan 25, 2015, 5:38:01 AM1/25/15
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Lidl have some security lights on offer tomorrow - and also some
separate "motion sensors" for 4 quid each
http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?action=showDetail&id=20234&ar=3

Has anyone bought one of these before, or would anyone care to hazard a
guess as to what they *actually* are?

I have an outside light whose PIR sensor has become very temperamental.
Since it is detachable, I'm wondering whether I can replace it with one
of these Lidl sensors.

The Lidl description calls it a "motion sensor". Taken at face value,
that would switch on whenever it detected motion - regardless of the
ambient lighting conditions. But the description also suggests that it
is designed to switch lights on - as opposed (say) to triggering a
burglar alarm. So, assuming that no-one would want to turn on a 1200w
halogen lamp in broad daylight, my hunch is that the light would only
come on when it was dark. But it doesn't *say* that. It says that you
can adjust how long the light stays on when triggered, but it doesn't
say that you can adjust the threshold lighting level - like many do.

Any informed comments?
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Robin

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Jan 25, 2015, 6:41:51 AM1/25/15
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I'm going tomorrow to see if they are in stock on the basis of
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powerfix-Motion-Halogen-Indoors-Outdoor/dp/B00B5KPZQ8
which shows adjustment for light level and time. But being Lidl there
may well be several varieties.


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mike

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Jan 25, 2015, 7:25:50 AM1/25/15
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Dennis@home

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Jan 25, 2015, 9:03:18 AM1/25/15
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I bought some of the last lot and they look the same.
If so they have three adjustments, sensitivity, time and lux.
You can set them to switch the relay on between daylight and dark.

fred

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Jan 25, 2015, 9:51:29 AM1/25/15
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In article <6d1af256-5409-43cd...@googlegroups.com>, mike
<mike...@yahoo.com> writes
>>
>> The Lidl description calls it a "motion sensor". Taken at face value,
>> that would switch on whenever it detected motion - regardless of the
>> ambient lighting conditions. But the description also suggests that it
>> is designed to switch lights on - as opposed (say) to triggering a
>> burglar alarm. So, assuming that no-one would want to turn on a 1200w
>> halogen lamp in broad daylight, my hunch is that the light would only
>> come on when it was dark. But it doesn't *say* that. It says that you
>> can adjust how long the light stays on when triggered, but it doesn't
>> say that you can adjust the threshold lighting level - like many do.
>>
>> Any informed comments?
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Roger
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>This any use?
>
>http://www.lidl-service.com/static/101772513/102673_EN_FI_SV_NL.pdf
>
These appear to be the same as a couple I have in stock here (bought as
a punt).

Well made, fully adjustable, easy wiring, relay based so no minimum load
and as the data sheet shows, adjustable for sens, ambient and duration.

I have tested them and found them fine but in the end got a v good deal
on some low col temp eterna ones with built in sensors so fitted them
instead as there was no high level re-wiring reqd (long ladders on a
difficult install).

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Brian Gaff

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Jan 25, 2015, 11:58:09 AM1/25/15
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I'd have thought the two were separate sensors. One is dictated by light,
the other I imagine works on infra red radiation passing across domains in a
sensor.
Brian

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Brian Gaff

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Jan 25, 2015, 12:02:46 PM1/25/15
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Actually, I had a temperamental pir made by altai. I simply popped out the
slightly off white filter over the sensor, and it worked fine so as I had a
spare one that had completely died, I borrowed its filter and it worked. No
idea to this day what on earth was different about the filter, unless it was
scratched and this confused the domain crossing or something but they are
hardly precision instruments are they, looking like a tiny tin can with so
wires and a window in the top.

Brian

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Bob Minchin

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Jan 25, 2015, 12:25:17 PM1/25/15
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I bought some last time round to replace a pir on a floodlight that had
filled with water.

I had a light level sensor, a pir sensitivity control and an on timer.

Worked perfectly (and still is).

ss

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Jan 25, 2015, 12:25:30 PM1/25/15
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On 25/01/2015 16:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I'd have thought the two were separate sensors. One is dictated by light,
> the other I imagine works on infra red radiation passing across domains in a
> sensor.
> Brian
>
Are these ok to use with LED floods?

Tim+

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Jan 25, 2015, 1:06:28 PM1/25/15
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If only someone had posted a link to the ad so that you could find the
information yourself! ;-)

Tim

ss

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Jan 25, 2015, 1:37:19 PM1/25/15
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Oooops I read low energy bulbs and missed the LED part hence the
question. :-( Apologies.

Roger Mills

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Jan 25, 2015, 2:56:21 PM1/25/15
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On 25/01/2015 12:25, mike wrote:
> On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 10:38:01 AM UTC, Roger Mills wrote:
>> Lidl have some security lights on offer tomorrow - and also some
>> separate "motion sensors" for 4 quid each
>> http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?action=showDetail&id=20234&ar=3
>>
>> Has anyone bought one of these before, or would anyone care to hazard a
>> guess as to what they *actually* are?
>>
>> I have an outside light whose PIR sensor has become very temperamental.
>> Since it is detachable, I'm wondering whether I can replace it with one
>> of these Lidl sensors.
>>
>> The Lidl description calls it a "motion sensor". Taken at face value,
>> that would switch on whenever it detected motion - regardless of the
>> ambient lighting conditions. But the description also suggests that it
>> is designed to switch lights on - as opposed (say) to triggering a
>> burglar alarm. So, assuming that no-one would want to turn on a 1200w
>> halogen lamp in broad daylight, my hunch is that the light would only
>> come on when it was dark. But it doesn't *say* that. It says that you
>> can adjust how long the light stays on when triggered, but it doesn't
>> say that you can adjust the threshold lighting level - like many do.
>>
>> Any informed comments?

>
>
Yes, lots - thanks! I guessed they were like the sensors on one of their
complete lamps which I have - but they didn't *say* so, and only
mentioned adjustment for time.

Roger Mills

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Jan 25, 2015, 2:57:20 PM1/25/15
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On 25/01/2015 18:06, Tim+ wrote:
Have you read the complete thread - including my OP?
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