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Barry Dean

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:18:19 AM2/14/02
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I have just had to remove the toilet to rip up some rotten floor boards
and replace them.

Now putting the toilet back has been a nightmare! I don't do plumbing!

I replaced the old pan connector with a new one, which has a small leak.

Question is, what could I use to make it water tight? It seems to fit OK
in all the right places, but the part of the connector that goes into
the soil pipe is leaking.

Should I just have it all out again and try to better fit the connector,
and if so is there any suitable sealant that would gurantee I don't get
a leak when it goes back together?

Jon

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:31:01 AM2/14/02
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"Barry Dean" <B.V....@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Try using some Plumbers Mait, available from B&Q, etc. It's a putty like
susbtance.

Jon

Grunff

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:30:40 PM2/14/02
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"Barry Dean" <B.V....@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> I have just had to remove the toilet to rip up some rotten floor boards
> and replace them.
>
> Now putting the toilet back has been a nightmare! I don't do plumbing!
>
> I replaced the old pan connector with a new one, which has a small leak.
>
> Question is, what could I use to make it water tight? It seems to fit OK
> in all the right places, but the part of the connector that goes into
> the soil pipe is leaking.


What is your soil pipe made of? The ribbed connectors very seldom leak, they
are on the whole very good

I'd pull out the connector and inspect the inside of you pipe for deep
scratches or bumps.


Grunff


Paul Worsley

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Feb 14, 2002, 3:01:06 PM2/14/02
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"Grunff" <gru...@ixxa.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Barry Dean" <B.V....@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:B.V.Dean-C3ED68...@newstrial.btopenworld.com...
> > I have just had to remove the toilet to rip up some rotten floor boards
> > and replace them.
> >
> > Now putting the toilet back has been a nightmare! I don't do plumbing!
> >
> > I replaced the old pan connector with a new one, which has a small leak.
> >
> > Question is, what could I use to make it water tight? It seems to fit OK
> > in all the right places, but the part of the connector that goes into
> > the soil pipe is leaking.

Are you putting the pan connector straight into standard pipe, or into what
was a pipe connector? if so you need an off cut off pipe in the fitting.

The best pan connectors are the Multiquick range. Some of the stuff in the
sheds is ....

If you want an easy fix, plumbers mait is not the answer, good quality
silicone (Corning 785) works - just clean out & dry the gap (an idea is to
remove some water from the pan - a quick push with a bog brush), then fill
with silicone.

Paul
(ex plumber)


Dave Liquorice

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Feb 14, 2002, 6:10:01 PM2/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:31:01 -0000, Jon wrote:

> Try using some Plumbers Mait, available from B&Q, etc. It's a putty
> like susbtance.

Not a good suggestion. It dries out and becomes brittle. The slight
movement of the pan is enough to create cracks which eventually leak.

Go for the quality silicone, if no obvious pipe damge can be found.

--
Cheers new...@howhill.com
Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email.

Barry Dean

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Feb 15, 2002, 8:51:54 AM2/15/02
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In article <B.V.Dean-C3ED68...@newstrial.btopenworld.com>,
Barry Dean <B.V....@btopenworld.com> wrote:

Fixed it. I had it all to bits, again! I have refitted the pan connector
much tighter and deeper into the soil pipe, which is very old ceramic
with a rough inner surface as it used to have an old toilet plumbed in
by being cemented into the pipe.

Plumbers Mait around the joint and careful positioning of the toilet and
cistern so they sit naturally and are not being stressed and hey presto
no leak.

Now I have the cold water inlet to fix :-(, all this fitting and
un-fitting has broken the seal. I now have to get a sealed joint for the
pipe. It is copper, joined to the plastic cistern inlet with a bent
plastic tap connector with brass nut. It seemed to have some waxed
hesian affair with some compound that had set into a elastic kind of
rubber, like mastic goes when it dries. I guess a small rubber sealing
ring should do the trick.

Dave Liquorice

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Feb 15, 2002, 5:04:03 PM2/15/02
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:51:54 +0000 (UTC), Barry Dean wrote:

> It is copper, joined to the plastic cistern inlet with a bent
> plastic tap connector with brass nut. It seemed to have some waxed
> hesian affair with some compound that had set into a elastic kind of
> rubber, like mastic goes when it dries. I guess a small rubber
> sealing ring should do the trick.

Glad you got the bottom end sorted out.

For the tap connector all you should need is a new fibre washer. Clean
all that crap off, pay particular attention to the inlet pipe end and
the seat on the tap connector, fit the fibre washer and tighten a good
finger tight plus 1/2 turn to 1 turn with a spanner.

Olav Marjasoo

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Feb 16, 2002, 7:26:43 AM2/16/02
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:04:03 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<new...@howhill.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:51:54 +0000 (UTC), Barry Dean wrote:
>
>> It is copper, joined to the plastic cistern inlet with a bent
>> plastic tap connector with brass nut. It seemed to have some waxed
>> hesian affair with some compound that had set into a elastic kind of
>> rubber, like mastic goes when it dries. I guess a small rubber
>> sealing ring should do the trick.
>
>Glad you got the bottom end sorted out.

He He..


>
>For the tap connector all you should need is a new fibre washer. Clean
>all that crap off

Eh? How did that get into the water side :-))


, pay particular attention to the inlet pipe end and
>the seat on the tap connector, fit the fibre washer and tighten a good
>finger tight plus 1/2 turn to 1 turn with a spanner.
>
>--
>Cheers new...@howhill.com
>Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email.

Dave. Further to your earlier posting. You may be thinking of Boss
White as hardening and cracking. Plumbers Mait is a "Permanent" mastic
--
Olav Marjasoo
Overlooking the Clyde, West Coast of Scotland

Dave Liquorice

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Feb 16, 2002, 3:52:53 PM2/16/02
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:26:43 GMT, Olav Marjasoo wrote:

>> Glad you got the bottom end sorted out.
>
> He He..

>> Clean all that crap off


>
> Eh? How did that get into the water side :-))

Oh dear did I really type that? Comes of posting when your just going
down with the "Winter Sickness Disease". Made a call on the Big White
Telephone about 1400 this afternoon. B-)

> Dave. Further to your earlier posting. You may be thinking of Boss
> White as hardening and cracking. Plumbers Mait is a "Permanent"
> mastic

Quite possibly, I avoid jointing compounds if at all possible. Is
Plumbers Mait suitable for potable water supplies? Boss White, Linseed
Putty etc aren't.

Stefek Zaba

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Feb 16, 2002, 4:30:13 PM2/16/02
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In uk.d-i-y, Dave Liquorice (new...@howhill.com) wrote:

> Oh dear did I really type that? Comes of posting when your just going
> down with the "Winter Sickness Disease". Made a call on the Big White
> Telephone about 1400 this afternoon. B-)

Thanks for that, Dave - information we *really* needed ;-)

But since you brought it up - did Rolf reply?

Stefek

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