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Stephen Cole
Sep 12, 2019, 3:09:09 AM9/12/19
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Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
bricks?
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should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
bricks?
--
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www.twitter.com/ukradioamateur
tim...
Sep 12, 2019, 3:51:19 AM9/12/19
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"Stephen Cole" <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote in message
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> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
> bricks?
Um, let me think?
> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
> bricks?
NO
tim
Brian Reay
Sep 12, 2019, 4:16:52 AM9/12/19
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Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and have
actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be subject 0
IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so currently in
place isn’t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that. (Fortunately,
there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more the £1m) £1m per
child would be more reasonable.
Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
and give it to the NHS.
No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the
first case, help the masses and don’t reward the lazy in the second case.
Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need to have
bought a property- will scream it is unfair.
Stephen Cole
Sep 12, 2019, 4:52:39 AM9/12/19
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acquaintance told him about what my inheritance is going to look like. He’s
got the green-eyed monster, big time. Poor Old Brian.
newshound
Sep 12, 2019, 5:45:00 AM9/12/19
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want to pass it on as an asset, fair enough. If you have bought it in
the hope of gains far in excess of inflation, then (arguably) you are
behaving like a charicature of the robber baron capitalist. Even more so
if you have multiple "buy to lets" with the same expectation.
And that's one of the things that IHT and CGT are after.
Call me an old cynic, but I sometimes suspect that the "simple working
class lad made good" who shouts about IHT is a bit more of a capitalist
than they claim to be.
I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
had levers that they could use.
Brian Reay
Sep 12, 2019, 6:08:15 AM9/12/19
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saved, invested in property etc.
>
> And that's one of the things that IHT and CGT are after.
>
> Call me an old cynic, but I sometimes suspect that the "simple working
> class lad made good" who shouts about IHT is a bit more of a capitalist
> than they claim to be.
>
his/her money on?
It is the Socialists who have an issue with people who have worked hard,
been prudent etc.
> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
> had levers that they could use.
>
Those who are want to succeed and are willing to graft etc can. Those who
are lazy sit back and moan, making excuses, expecting handouts.
tabb...@gmail.com
Sep 12, 2019, 6:19:22 AM9/12/19
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tabb...@gmail.com
Sep 12, 2019, 6:23:09 AM9/12/19
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The government shows near zero comprehension of the rental sector and should thus keep out of it until perhaps one day it does understand it.
NT
Roger Hayter
Sep 12, 2019, 8:15:24 AM9/12/19
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owners, chimney sweeps, brothel keepers, bookmakers, mill owners, and,
more recently, medicinal cannabis growers. The usual answer is that on
the contrary they understand it only too well.
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tabb...@gmail.com
Sep 12, 2019, 9:58:17 AM9/12/19
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On Thursday, 12 September 2019 13:15:24 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
> <tabbypurr> wrote:
> > > I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
> > > decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
> > > housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
> > > that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
> > > and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
> > > developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
> > > had levers that they could use.
> >
> > At the risk of pointing out the obvious, there are no robber barons.
> > Robbers in this society are usually welfare recipients.
> >
> > The government shows near zero comprehension of the rental sector and
> > should thus keep out of it until perhaps one day it does understand it.
> >
> >
> > NT
>
> That, of course, is the historical complaint of mine owners, plantation
> owners, chimney sweeps, brothel keepers, bookmakers, mill owners, and,
> more recently, medicinal cannabis growers. The usual answer is that on
> the contrary they understand it only too well.
That is ever the government's answer. Reality is in this case they don't.
> > > I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
> > > decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
> > > housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
> > > that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
> > > and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
> > > developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
> > > had levers that they could use.
> >
> > At the risk of pointing out the obvious, there are no robber barons.
> > Robbers in this society are usually welfare recipients.
> >
> > The government shows near zero comprehension of the rental sector and
> > should thus keep out of it until perhaps one day it does understand it.
> >
> >
> > NT
>
> That, of course, is the historical complaint of mine owners, plantation
> owners, chimney sweeps, brothel keepers, bookmakers, mill owners, and,
> more recently, medicinal cannabis growers. The usual answer is that on
> the contrary they understand it only too well.
Dave Plowman (News)
Sep 12, 2019, 11:43:00 AM9/12/19
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In article <qlcuth$7la$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
Do you think the offspring who work hard in a vital but not well paid job
- like say a nurse or policeman or even in the armed services - should be
penalised because they don't get paid enough to buy property?
Or are you still on a different planet to most of us?
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Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and
> have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be
> subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so
> currently in place isn‘t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that.
> (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more
> the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable.
> Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> and give it to the NHS.
Interesting. The sins of the children visited on the parents.
> Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and
> have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be
> subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so
> currently in place isn‘t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that.
> (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more
> the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable.
> Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> and give it to the NHS.
Do you think the offspring who work hard in a vital but not well paid job
- like say a nurse or policeman or even in the armed services - should be
penalised because they don't get paid enough to buy property?
Or are you still on a different planet to most of us?
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Rod Speed
Sep 12, 2019, 12:02:49 PM9/12/19
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Stephen Cole <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote
> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth
> or should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber
> baron class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing
> bubble and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value
> of a pile of bricks?
He's much more likely to have the state grab the lot and turn
everyone into council housing tenants with no compensation.
And nothing done with land value tax would do that last of yours anyway.
> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth
> or should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber
> baron class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing
> bubble and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value
> of a pile of bricks?
everyone into council housing tenants with no compensation.
And nothing done with land value tax would do that last of yours anyway.
Rod Speed
Sep 12, 2019, 12:30:07 PM9/12/19
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<tabb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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the
USA in the 19th century etc.
> Robbers in this society are usually welfare recipients.
> The government shows near zero comprehension of the rental sector
society
with no even reasonably decent approach which works well for everyone.
> and should thus keep out of it until perhaps one day it does understand
> it.
mm0fmf
Sep 12, 2019, 1:07:26 PM9/12/19
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Brian Gaff
Sep 12, 2019, 1:26:31 PM9/12/19
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The problem is I have a long garden, and if I'm going to be stung, then I'll
sell it and there will be huge density increases everywhere.
Brian
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sell it and there will be huge density increases everywhere.
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Sep 12, 2019, 2:18:48 PM9/12/19
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Peeler
Sep 12, 2019, 2:32:55 PM9/12/19
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02:29??? Do you have NO shame AT ALL, you senile pest?
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02:29??? Do you have NO shame AT ALL, you senile pest?
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Sep 12, 2019, 4:37:33 PM9/12/19
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Sep 12, 2019, 5:06:18 PM9/12/19
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tabb...@gmail.com
Sep 12, 2019, 6:02:03 PM9/12/19
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On Thursday, 12 September 2019 17:30:07 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
> <tabbypurr> wrote in message
> > Robbers in this society are usually welfare recipients.
>
> That too.
>
> > The government shows near zero comprehension of the rental sector
>
> Its more that that’s where there is a real conflict between two sectors of
> society
> with no even reasonably decent approach which works well for everyone.
That is an issue. But it's a fairly well recognised one.
Look at the post-grenfell recommendations to see they're just visiting this planet.
> > and should thus keep out of it until perhaps one day it does understand
> > it.
>
> Not even possible to understand it.
Of course it is. Maybe not for you.
NT
> <tabbypurr> wrote in message
> news:c9787e91-ef44-4e63...@googlegroups.com...
> > On Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:45:00 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
> >> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
> >> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
> >> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
> >> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
> >> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
> >> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
> >> had levers that they could use.
>
> > At the risk of pointing out the obvious, there are no robber barons.
>
> That’s bullshit. There is a reason some got stinking rich, particularly in
> the
> USA in the 19th century etc.
lol
> > On Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:45:00 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
> >> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
> >> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
> >> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
> >> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
> >> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
> >> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
> >> had levers that they could use.
>
> > At the risk of pointing out the obvious, there are no robber barons.
>
> That’s bullshit. There is a reason some got stinking rich, particularly in
> the
> USA in the 19th century etc.
> > Robbers in this society are usually welfare recipients.
>
> That too.
>
> > The government shows near zero comprehension of the rental sector
>
> Its more that that’s where there is a real conflict between two sectors of
> society
> with no even reasonably decent approach which works well for everyone.
Look at the post-grenfell recommendations to see they're just visiting this planet.
> > and should thus keep out of it until perhaps one day it does understand
> > it.
>
> Not even possible to understand it.
NT
Rod Speed
Sep 12, 2019, 7:34:12 PM9/12/19
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<tabb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thursday, 12 September 2019 17:30:07 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
>> <tabbypurr> wrote in message
>> news:c9787e91-ef44-4e63...@googlegroups.com...
>> > On Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:45:00 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
>
>
>> >> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
>> >> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes
>> >> council
>> >> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
>> >> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising
>> >> prosperity
>> >> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not)
>> >> blame
>> >> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
>> >> had levers that they could use.
>>
>> > At the risk of pointing out the obvious, there are no robber barons.
>>
>> That’s bullshit. There is a reason some got stinking rich, particularly
>> in
>> the USA in the 19th century etc.
> lol
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>> <tabbypurr> wrote in message
>> news:c9787e91-ef44-4e63...@googlegroups.com...
>> > On Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:45:00 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
>
>
>> >> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
>> >> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes
>> >> council
>> >> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
>> >> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising
>> >> prosperity
>> >> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not)
>> >> blame
>> >> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
>> >> had levers that they could use.
>>
>> > At the risk of pointing out the obvious, there are no robber barons.
>>
>> That’s bullshit. There is a reason some got stinking rich, particularly
>> in
>> the USA in the 19th century etc.
> lol
>>> Robbers in this society are usually welfare recipients.
>> That too.
>>> The government shows near zero comprehension of the rental sector
>> Its more that that’s where there is a real conflict between
>> two sectors of society with no even reasonably decent
>> approach which works well for everyone.
> That is an issue. But it's a fairly well recognised one.
no solution to that problem that works well for everyone.
> Look at the post-grenfell recommendations
> to see they're just visiting this planet.
That’s radically different to rent control, council housing
and what rights tenants have with regards to not being
kicked out of the place they are renting when a landlord
decides that they can get more rent if they do that etc.
We can't even decide whether it makes any sense to allow
landlords to be selective about whether they allow pets or not.
>>> and should thus keep out of it until
>>> perhaps one day it does understand it.
>> Not even possible to understand it.
> Of course it is.
harry
Sep 13, 2019, 2:27:26 AM9/13/19
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On Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:45:00 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
Bliar started it off. (Importing votes)
harry
Sep 13, 2019, 2:30:42 AM9/13/19
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harry
Sep 13, 2019, 2:32:38 AM9/13/19
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On Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:43:00 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <qlcuth$7la$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> > Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and
> > have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be
> > subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so
> > currently in place isn‘t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that.
> > (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more
> > the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable.
>
> > Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> > for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> > and give it to the NHS.
>
> Interesting. The sins of the children visited on the parents.
>
> Do you think the offspring who work hard in a vital but not well paid job
> - like say a nurse or policeman or even in the armed services - should be
> penalised because they don't get paid enough to buy property?
>
> Or are you still on a different planet to most of us?
>
> --
Your usual shit-fer-brains.
> In article <qlcuth$7la$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> > Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and
> > have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be
> > subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so
> > currently in place isn‘t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that.
> > (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more
> > the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable.
>
> > Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> > for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> > and give it to the NHS.
>
> Interesting. The sins of the children visited on the parents.
>
> Do you think the offspring who work hard in a vital but not well paid job
> - like say a nurse or policeman or even in the armed services - should be
> penalised because they don't get paid enough to buy property?
>
> Or are you still on a different planet to most of us?
>
> --
The reason for high house prices is migration.
They're all living somewhere. ie, cheap housing that would normally go to first time buyers.
Peeler
Sep 13, 2019, 3:44:10 AM9/13/19
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:34:02 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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Rod Speed
Sep 13, 2019, 4:14:22 AM9/13/19
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Rod Speed
Sep 13, 2019, 4:16:34 AM9/13/19
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Doesn’t explain why some places with fuck all migration like Japan have high
house prices,. stupid.
house prices,. stupid.
Chris Green
Sep 13, 2019, 5:16:04 AM9/13/19
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Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
>
> Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> and give it to the NHS.
>
So how do you decide whether someone has spent their life "sitting
>
> Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> and give it to the NHS.
>
around waiting for another hand out..." or has been productive? It's
not particularly easy and one man's 'lazy git' is another man's 'hard
worker' (... 'hard work' doesn't necessarily mean earning lots of
money).
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Peeler
Sep 13, 2019, 5:30:17 AM9/13/19
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:14:09 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>>> Rob the disabled eh. Hmm.
>>
>> How can you rob someone who has nothing?
>
> Buy giving them fuck all in the way of benefits, stupid.
Rod the disabled, opens his senile troll gob!
>>
>> How can you rob someone who has nothing?
>
> Buy giving them fuck all in the way of benefits, stupid.
Peeler
Sep 13, 2019, 5:36:30 AM9/13/19
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:16:21 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
or without migration, cantankerous senile idiot!
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>> Your usual shit-fer-brains.
>> The reason for high house prices is migration.
>> They're all living somewhere. ie, cheap housing that would normally go to
>> first time buyers.
>
> Doesn’t explain why some places with fuck all migration like Japan have high
> house prices,. stupid.
That's only in Tokyo, and ALL capitals have high house prises, whether with
>> The reason for high house prices is migration.
>> They're all living somewhere. ie, cheap housing that would normally go to
>> first time buyers.
>
> Doesn’t explain why some places with fuck all migration like Japan have high
> house prices,. stupid.
or without migration, cantankerous senile idiot!
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Stephen Cole
Sep 13, 2019, 11:34:05 AM9/13/19
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Rambo <Ra...@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
> On 12 Sep 2019 08:52:35 GMT, Stephen Cole
> <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> acquaintance told him about what my inheritance is going to look like. He’s
>> got the green-eyed monster, big time. Poor Old Brian.
>
> TBH I'd hand any inheritance back in return for my parents.
>
Folk like Brian measure a person’s worth in pounds, shillings, and pence.
It’s a very bleak worldview and I genuinely pity him.
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> On 12 Sep 2019 08:52:35 GMT, Stephen Cole
> <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
>>> tim... <tims_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Stephen Cole" <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gtu98i...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
>>>>> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
>>>>> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
>>>>> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
>>>>> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
>>>>> bricks?
>>>>
>>>> Um, let me think?
>>>>
>>>> NO
>>>>
>>>> tim
>>>>
>>>
>>> He’d do better to reform IHT.
>>>
>> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
>>> tim... <tims_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Stephen Cole" <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gtu98i...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
>>>>> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
>>>>> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
>>>>> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
>>>>> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
>>>>> bricks?
>>>>
>>>> Um, let me think?
>>>>
>>>> NO
>>>>
>>>> tim
>>>>
>>>
>>> He’d do better to reform IHT.
>>>
>>> Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and have
>>> actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be subject 0
>>> IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so currently in
>>> place isn’t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that. (Fortunately,
>>> there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more the £1m) £1m per
>>> child would be more reasonable.
>>>
>>> actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be subject 0
>>> IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so currently in
>>> place isn’t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that. (Fortunately,
>>> there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more the £1m) £1m per
>>> child would be more reasonable.
>>>
>>> Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
>>> for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
>>> and give it to the NHS.
>>>
>>> for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
>>> and give it to the NHS.
>>>
>>> No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the
>>> first case, help the masses and don’t reward the lazy in the second case.
>>> Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need to have
>>> bought a property- will scream it is unfair.
>>
>> Clearly, Brian’s still deep in that funk he fell into after our mutual
>>> first case, help the masses and don’t reward the lazy in the second case.
>>> Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need to have
>>> bought a property- will scream it is unfair.
>>
>> acquaintance told him about what my inheritance is going to look like. He’s
>> got the green-eyed monster, big time. Poor Old Brian.
>
> TBH I'd hand any inheritance back in return for my parents.
>
Folk like Brian measure a person’s worth in pounds, shillings, and pence.
It’s a very bleak worldview and I genuinely pity him.
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Stephen Cole
Sep 13, 2019, 11:34:06 AM9/13/19
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newshound <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote:
Right To Buy for private tenants. Labour are looking into it, so fingers
crossed.
> I'm not entirely sure about that. If you buy a house to live in, and
> want to pass it on as an asset, fair enough. If you have bought it in
> the hope of gains far in excess of inflation, then (arguably) you are
> behaving like a charicature of the robber baron capitalist. Even more so
> if you have multiple "buy to lets" with the same expectation.
>
> And that's one of the things that IHT and CGT are after.
>
> Call me an old cynic, but I sometimes suspect that the "simple working
> class lad made good" who shouts about IHT is a bit more of a capitalist
> than they claim to be.
>
> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
> had levers that they could use.
One way of tipping the balance back in favour of the common man would be
> want to pass it on as an asset, fair enough. If you have bought it in
> the hope of gains far in excess of inflation, then (arguably) you are
> behaving like a charicature of the robber baron capitalist. Even more so
> if you have multiple "buy to lets" with the same expectation.
>
> And that's one of the things that IHT and CGT are after.
>
> Call me an old cynic, but I sometimes suspect that the "simple working
> class lad made good" who shouts about IHT is a bit more of a capitalist
> than they claim to be.
>
> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
> had levers that they could use.
Right To Buy for private tenants. Labour are looking into it, so fingers
crossed.
Stephen Cole
Sep 13, 2019, 11:34:06 AM9/13/19
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> saved, invested in property etc.
>
>
>>
>> And that's one of the things that IHT and CGT are after.
>>
>> Call me an old cynic, but I sometimes suspect that the "simple working
>> class lad made good" who shouts about IHT is a bit more of a capitalist
>> than they claim to be.
>>
>
> Why is there a problem with someone who has made good wanting to pass
>
>>
>> And that's one of the things that IHT and CGT are after.
>>
>> Call me an old cynic, but I sometimes suspect that the "simple working
>> class lad made good" who shouts about IHT is a bit more of a capitalist
>> than they claim to be.
>>
>
> his/her money on?
>
> It is the Socialists who have an issue with people who have worked hard,
> been prudent etc.
>
>
>> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
>> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
>> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
>> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
>> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
>> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
>> had levers that they could use.
>>
>
> Excuses, excuses, excuses.
>
>> I think the *real* problem is that government economic policy over the
>> decades has largely encouraged the housing bubble. This includes council
>> housing selloff and easing buy to let rules. The underlying problem is
>> that we have not been building enough houses to match rising prosperity
>> and (the reasonably) rising expectations. You might (or might not) blame
>> developers with their land banks but overall, governments have always
>> had levers that they could use.
>>
>
>
> Those who are want to succeed and are willing to graft etc can. Those who
> are lazy sit back and moan, making excuses, expecting handouts.
>
You’re having a good time living on your wife’s pension though, Brian, eh?
whisky-dave
Sep 13, 2019, 11:51:43 AM9/13/19
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On Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:43:00 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <qlcuth$7la$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> > Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and
> > have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be
> > subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so
> > currently in place isn‘t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that.
> > (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more
> > the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable.
>
> > Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> > for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> > and give it to the NHS.
>
> Interesting. The sins of the children visited on the parents.
>
> Do you think the offspring who work hard in a vital but not well paid job
> - like say a nurse or policeman or even in the armed services - should be
> penalised because they don't get paid enough to buy property?
Why don't they get paid enough ?
> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> > Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and
> > have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be
> > subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so
> > currently in place isn‘t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that.
> > (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more
> > the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable.
>
> > Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> > for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> > and give it to the NHS.
>
> Interesting. The sins of the children visited on the parents.
>
> Do you think the offspring who work hard in a vital but not well paid job
> - like say a nurse or policeman or even in the armed services - should be
> penalised because they don't get paid enough to buy property?
Rod Speed
Sep 13, 2019, 12:08:12 PM9/13/19
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"whisky-dave" <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Peeler
Sep 13, 2019, 12:55:34 PM9/13/19
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:08:02 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
senile sleepless trolling asshole who gets up EVERY NIGHT between 1 and 4
am, just so he has someone to talk to on Usenet!
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
> Because that’s the way things have ended up in some places like London.
You'd better worry how things have ended up for YOU in YOUR place, you
senile sleepless trolling asshole who gets up EVERY NIGHT between 1 and 4
am, just so he has someone to talk to on Usenet!
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harry
Sep 13, 2019, 1:12:17 PM9/13/19
to
On Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:09:09 UTC+1, Stephen Cole wrote:
> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
> bricks?
Land value tax. would take years to implement. Who knows who owns what and the value of it is?
> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
> bricks?
harry
Sep 13, 2019, 1:14:09 PM9/13/19
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tabb...@gmail.com
Sep 13, 2019, 2:21:36 PM9/13/19
to
Anyway disabled people often don't have nothing.
RJH
Sep 13, 2019, 3:27:28 PM9/13/19
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On 12/09/2019 09:16, Brian Reay wrote:
> tim... <tims_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Stephen Cole" <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote in message
>> news:gtu98i...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
>>> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
>>> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
>>> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
>>> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
>>> bricks?
>>
>> Um, let me think?
>>
>> NO
>>
>> tim
>>
>
> He’d do better to reform IHT.
>
Well, abolish IHT, introduce LVT . . .
> tim... <tims_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Stephen Cole" <use...@stephenthomascole.com> wrote in message
>> news:gtu98i...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or
>>> should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron
>>> class’ hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control
>>> legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble
>>> and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of
>>> bricks?
>>
>> Um, let me think?
>>
>> NO
>>
>> tim
>>
>
> He’d do better to reform IHT.
>
> Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and have
> actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be subject 0
> IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so currently in
> place isn’t really high enough, it is easy to exceed that. (Fortunately,
> there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more the £1m) £1m per
> child would be more reasonable.
>
> Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting
> for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100%
> and give it to the NHS.
>
around waiting for hand-outs' out of choice.
> No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the
> first case, help the masses and don’t reward the lazy in the second case.
> Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need to have
> bought a property- will scream it is unfair.
>
ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite
nasty ways over the next 30 years.
I had the 'opportunity' to take in some daytime TV for a couple of weeks
recently. Apart from the obviously fleecing nature of the corporations
behind it all, quite nice to see the variety of equity release products
being pushed.
If the government isn't going to do anything, spend it or give it away
while you can.
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Fredxx
Sep 13, 2019, 5:32:03 PM9/13/19
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On 13/09/2019 16:34, Stephen Cole wrote:
<snip>
> Folk like Brian measure a person’s worth in pounds, shillings, and pence.
> It’s a very bleak worldview and I genuinely pity him.
I take it you're a bankrupt.
<snip>
> Folk like Brian measure a person’s worth in pounds, shillings, and pence.
> It’s a very bleak worldview and I genuinely pity him.
Rod Speed
Sep 13, 2019, 7:35:45 PM9/13/19
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"RJH" <patch...@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:qlgqiq$1s8o$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
picking and dealing with fat bergs in sewers and
choose to put their hands out for the dole instead.
And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>> No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the
>> first case, help the masses and don’t reward the lazy in the second
>> to have bought a property- will scream it is unfair.
> It's now pretty well established that the combination of property
> ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite nasty
> ways over the next 30 years.
That hasn’t been established at all, just claimed, a different matter
> It's now pretty well established that the combination of property
> ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite nasty
> ways over the next 30 years.
entirely.
> I had the 'opportunity' to take in some daytime TV for a couple of weeks
> recently. Apart from the obviously fleecing nature of the corporations
> behind it all, quite nice to see the variety of equity release products
> being pushed.
> If the government isn't going to do anything, spend it or give it away
> while you can.
Spike
Sep 14, 2019, 3:39:42 AM9/14/19
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money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
millionaires. It’s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
--
Spike
Joe
Sep 14, 2019, 4:17:23 AM9/14/19
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:35:34 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>
Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago,
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>
thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in
large towns and cities. It's also a lot more difficult if you have
school-age children.
Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it
isn't for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage, which
most jobs now are.
--
Joe
Joe
Sep 14, 2019, 4:24:45 AM9/14/19
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:39:41 +0000
Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
> millionaires.
Not much to boast about these days. Many quite grotty parts of the world
Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
> millionaires.
have an area of expensive housing, fully occupied.
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Joe
Peeler
Sep 14, 2019, 4:26:48 AM9/14/19
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:35:34 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
trolling piece of Ozzie shit!
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
> That’s bullshit. Plenty wont do some jobs like fruit
> picking and dealing with fat bergs in sewers and
> choose to put their hands out for the dole instead.
>
> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
You are not in the UK, so you don't know how things are there, you senile
> picking and dealing with fat bergs in sewers and
> choose to put their hands out for the dole instead.
>
> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
trolling piece of Ozzie shit!
Brian Reay
Sep 14, 2019, 5:11:31 AM9/14/19
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Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to
live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to
them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-)
Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq
Sep 14, 2019, 5:58:37 AM9/14/19
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I suppose they donate it all then?
AB
Dave Plowman (News)
Sep 14, 2019, 6:54:55 AM9/14/19
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In article <qlgqiq$1s8o$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
press.
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RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:
> > Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around
> > waiting for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax
> > it at 100% and give it to the NHS.
> >
> You have a very cynical view of people. Very, very, few people 'sit
> around waiting for hand-outs' out of choice.
But they do if your main source of information is the right wing gutter
> > Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around
> > waiting for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax
> > it at 100% and give it to the NHS.
> >
> You have a very cynical view of people. Very, very, few people 'sit
> around waiting for hand-outs' out of choice.
press.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Sep 14, 2019, 6:54:56 AM9/14/19
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In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
horrid living in the sticks.
--
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Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
> millionaires. It壮 a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
horrid living in the sticks.
--
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Dave Plowman (News)
Sep 14, 2019, 6:54:56 AM9/14/19
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In article <qliarp$aqr$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
socialist. Who inherited very little from my life long Tory parents. ;-)
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Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to
> live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to
> them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-)
Does make one wonder how I'm a millionaire after being a life long
> Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to
> live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to
> them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-)
socialist. Who inherited very little from my life long Tory parents. ;-)
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Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq
Sep 14, 2019, 7:11:06 AM9/14/19
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>> millionaires. It壮 a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
>
>That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>horrid living in the sticks.
Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>> millionaires. It壮 a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
>
>That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>horrid living in the sticks.
can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
live hand to mouth.
It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
AB
Brian Reay
Sep 14, 2019, 7:20:55 AM9/14/19
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Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <qliarp$aqr$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
>> Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to
>> live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to
>> them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-)
>
> Does make one wonder how I'm a millionaire after being a life long
> socialist. Who inherited very little from my life long Tory parents. ;-)
>
Caught one !
> Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
>> Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to
>> live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to
>> them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-)
>
> Does make one wonder how I'm a millionaire after being a life long
> socialist. Who inherited very little from my life long Tory parents. ;-)
>
Brian Reay
Sep 14, 2019, 7:20:56 AM9/14/19
to
Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq <blenk...@mail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>> millionaires. It‘s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>
>> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>> horrid living in the sticks.
>
> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
> live hand to mouth.
>
> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
>
> AB
>
ROTFL
>> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>> horrid living in the sticks.
>
> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
> live hand to mouth.
>
> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
>
> AB
>
Do you think those who want to tear down ‘the system’ know or care about
the difference?
They just want any easy life.
Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq
Sep 14, 2019, 7:28:26 AM9/14/19
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay <no...@m.com>
wrote:
>Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq <blenk...@mail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
>> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>>> millionaires. It?s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
Is there some reason why it should not be an aim?
I certainly want an easy life, sadly it does not yet appear to be
around the corner.
"Tearing down the system" sounds a trifle difficult.
AB
wrote:
>Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq <blenk...@mail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
>> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>>
>>> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>>> horrid living in the sticks.
>>
>> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
>> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
>> live hand to mouth.
>>
>> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
>> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
>> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
>>
>> AB
>>
>
>ROTFL
>
>Do you think those who want to tear down ‘the system’ know or care about
>the difference?
>
>They just want any easy life.
>
Everyone wants an easy life.
>>> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>>> horrid living in the sticks.
>>
>> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
>> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
>> live hand to mouth.
>>
>> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
>> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
>> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
>>
>> AB
>>
>
>ROTFL
>
>Do you think those who want to tear down ‘the system’ know or care about
>the difference?
>
>They just want any easy life.
>
Is there some reason why it should not be an aim?
I certainly want an easy life, sadly it does not yet appear to be
around the corner.
"Tearing down the system" sounds a trifle difficult.
AB
Dave Plowman (News)
Sep 14, 2019, 10:09:47 AM9/14/19
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In article <qliiel$1bp7$2...@gioia.aioe.org>,
--
*I yell because I care
Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> > It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> > millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> > the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
> >
> > AB
> >
> ROTFL
> Do you think those who want to tear down the system‘ know or care about
> the difference?
> They just want any easy life.
You've just described the average Brexiteer.
> > It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> > millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> > the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
> >
> > AB
> >
> ROTFL
> Do you think those who want to tear down the system‘ know or care about
> the difference?
> They just want any easy life.
--
*I yell because I care
Rod Speed
Sep 14, 2019, 10:25:41 AM9/14/19
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Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote
> thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying
> to most housing in large towns and cities.
None of that involved when you are renting.
> It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children.
That's bullshit too. Same as forty years ago.
> Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid
> job, it isn't for anything less and particularly for around
> minimum wage, which most jobs now are.
That's bullshit too.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
> Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago,
BULLSHIT when you are renting.
>> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
> Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago,
> thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying
> to most housing in large towns and cities.
> It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children.
> Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid
> job, it isn't for anything less and particularly for around
> minimum wage, which most jobs now are.
Rod Speed
Sep 14, 2019, 10:43:48 AM9/14/19
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" <blenk...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:sdipnep8toa549ul8...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>> millionaires. It's a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>
>>That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>>horrid living in the sticks.
>
> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
> live hand to mouth.
>
> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
The don't support the whole lot and never did.
>>That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>>horrid living in the sticks.
>
> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
> live hand to mouth.
>
> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
Rod Speed
Sep 14, 2019, 10:48:52 AM9/14/19
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" <blenk...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:pfjpnellvsu3iiiag...@4ax.com...
more interesting life working at a decent job.
> Is there some reason why it should not be an aim?
> I certainly want an easy life,
> sadly it does not yet appear to be around the corner.
Jim GM4DHJ ...
Sep 14, 2019, 11:25:21 AM9/14/19
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Peeler
Sep 14, 2019, 11:36:21 AM9/14/19
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:48:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
00:48??? LOL So I was right, you didn't stay up until that time, you ALREADY
got out of bed, AGAIN, to continue with your insipid trolling without too
long a break! LMAO
--
Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot:
"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?"
MID: <g4ihla...@mid.individual.net>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH trolling senile Ozzietard's latest trollshit>
00:48??? LOL So I was right, you didn't stay up until that time, you ALREADY
got out of bed, AGAIN, to continue with your insipid trolling without too
long a break! LMAO
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Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot:
"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?"
MID: <g4ihla...@mid.individual.net>
Peeler
Sep 14, 2019, 11:41:23 AM9/14/19
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:43:34 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
millionaires who can't do ANYTHING with all their money other than troll on
Usenet? YEAR after YEAR? I do remember you told us repeatedly that you got
"money to burn"! LOL
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
> The don't support the whole lot and never did.
Hey, senile Rodent, aren't you yet another one of those MANY senile Usenet
millionaires who can't do ANYTHING with all their money other than troll on
Usenet? YEAR after YEAR? I do remember you told us repeatedly that you got
"money to burn"! LOL
Peeler
Sep 14, 2019, 11:42:41 AM9/14/19
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:25:26 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
00:25 am in Australia? Now THAT's a new record, even for you trolling piece
of senile Australian shit! LOL
--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43...@85.214.115.223>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH trollshit>
00:25 am in Australia? Now THAT's a new record, even for you trolling piece
of senile Australian shit! LOL
--
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"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43...@85.214.115.223>
Brian Reay
Sep 14, 2019, 11:57:10 AM9/14/19
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callsign you missed out on.
I'm no issue with those who inherit, good luck to them. It is hypocrites
I've a problem with- Socialists who hold their hand out expecting
someone to fill it with money.
Roger Hayter
Sep 14, 2019, 12:00:25 PM9/14/19
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than working in a factory or being on the dole.
--
Roger Hayter
Bill Wright
Sep 14, 2019, 12:28:11 PM9/14/19
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On 14/09/2019 11:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>> millionaires. It‘s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>
> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
> horrid living in the sticks.
>
Lots and lots of people are millionaires if you include the values of
> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
> horrid living in the sticks.
>
their property.
Bill
RJH
Sep 14, 2019, 1:04:21 PM9/14/19
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large part due to housing . . .
> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>
>>> No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working,
>>> the first case, help the masses and don’t reward the lazy in the
>>> second case.Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember
>>> you need to have bought a property- will scream it is unfair.
>
>> It's now pretty well established that the combination of property
>> ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite
>> nasty ways over the next 30 years.
>
> That hasn’t been established at all, just claimed, a different matter
> entirely.
>
>> I had the 'opportunity' to take in some daytime TV for a couple of
>> weeks recently. Apart from the obviously fleecing nature of the
>> corporations behind it all, quite nice to see the variety of equity
>> release products being pushed.
>
>> If the government isn't going to do anything, spend it or give it away
>> while you can.
>
> Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.
--
Cheers, Rob
RJH
Sep 14, 2019, 1:17:25 PM9/14/19
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On 14/09/2019 15:25, Rod Speed wrote:
> Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>
>> Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago,
>
> BULLSHIT when you are renting.
Only 36% rent, and about half of those are in social housing. You are
> Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>
>> Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago,
>
> BULLSHIT when you are renting.
more likely to be 'workless' than in work if you own outright than
privately rent.
Workless: Mortgage 1.3%, own outright 13.1%, private rent 9.7%,
council/HA 26.7%
>> thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in
>> large towns and cities.
>
> None of that involved when you are renting.
>> It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children.
>
> That's bullshit too. Same as forty years ago.
>> Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it
>> isn't for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage,
>> which most jobs now are.
>
> That's bullshit too.
possibility of you providing an ounce of reasoning?
--
Cheers, Rob
Rod Speed
Sep 14, 2019, 6:05:03 PM9/14/19
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"Roger Hayter" <ro...@hayter.org> wrote in message
news:1odwkho.8zbnzqopu8owN%ro...@hayter.org...
spending your time doing what you prefer to do like fishing etc.
Rod Speed
Sep 14, 2019, 6:15:49 PM9/14/19
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RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:qlj6ih$6c1$2...@gioia.aioe.org...
> And that is in large part due to housing . . .
Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.
Mate of mine who ended up here used to drive a small mini bus
that was used to pick up the fruit pickers that did the work on his
dads operation in the 50s.
>> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>>
>>>> No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the
>>>> first case, help the masses and don’t reward the lazy in the second
>>>> case.Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need
>>>> to have bought a property- will scream it is unfair.
>>
>>> It's now pretty well established that the combination of property
>>> ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite
>>> nasty ways over the next 30 years.
>>
>> That hasn’t been established at all, just claimed, a different matter
>> entirely.
>>
>
> Claimed and evidenced.
> Have a look at the work of Danny Dorling for example.
Rod Speed
Sep 14, 2019, 6:23:23 PM9/14/19
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news:qlj7b1$bf5$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
> and about half of those are in social housing. You are more likely to be
> 'workless' than in work if you own outright than privately rent.
Fuck all of those who choose not to work
own the property they are living in.
> Workless: Mortgage 1.3%, own outright 13.1%,
Like I said, fuck all.
> private rent 9.7%, council/HA 26.7%
Those numbers don’t total 100%
>>> thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in large
>>> towns and cities.
>>
>> None of that involved when you are renting.
>>> It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children.
>>
>> That's bullshit too. Same as forty years ago.
>>> Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it isn't
>>> for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage, which most
>>> jobs now are.
>>
>> That's bullshit too.
>
> Transactions costs are notoriously high in the UK.
Waffle. It doesn’t cost that much to move when renting.
> Is there any possibility of you providing an ounce of reasoning?
That’s flagrantly dishonest.
> On 14/09/2019 15:25, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>>
>>> Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago,
>>
>> BULLSHIT when you are renting.
> Only 36% rent,
A FAR higher percentage who are receiving the dole instead of working do.
>> Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>> And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too.
>>
>>> Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago,
>>
>> BULLSHIT when you are renting.
> Only 36% rent,
> and about half of those are in social housing. You are more likely to be
> 'workless' than in work if you own outright than privately rent.
own the property they are living in.
> Workless: Mortgage 1.3%, own outright 13.1%,
> private rent 9.7%, council/HA 26.7%
>>> thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in large
>>> towns and cities.
>>
>> None of that involved when you are renting.
>>> It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children.
>>
>> That's bullshit too. Same as forty years ago.
>>> Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it isn't
>>> for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage, which most
>>> jobs now are.
>>
>> That's bullshit too.
>
> Transactions costs are notoriously high in the UK.
> Is there any possibility of you providing an ounce of reasoning?
Peeler
Sep 14, 2019, 6:33:44 PM9/14/19
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:04:51 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Fuck off from normally evolved humans' ngs, you trolling piece of Ozzie
shit!
--
MrTu...@down.the.farm about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID: <ps10v9$uo2$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH senile Ozzietard's latest trollshit>
Fuck off from normally evolved humans' ngs, you trolling piece of Ozzie
shit!
--
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"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID: <ps10v9$uo2$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
Peeler
Sep 14, 2019, 6:34:47 PM9/14/19
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:23:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
That's flagrant trolling on your part again, you trolling piece of senile
Ozzie shit!
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
> That’s flagrantly dishonest.
That's flagrant trolling on your part again, you trolling piece of senile
Ozzie shit!
Peeler
Sep 14, 2019, 6:36:24 PM9/14/19
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:15:39 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
abnormal trolling you 85-year-old trolling senile pest!
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
> Have a look at what actually happens over the next 30 years.,
He should have a look at your website from 2007 that was dedicated to your
abnormal trolling you 85-year-old trolling senile pest!
JNugent
Sep 14, 2019, 6:41:58 PM9/14/19
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On 14/09/2019 12:11, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>> millionaires. It‘s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
>>> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
>>
>> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>> horrid living in the sticks.
>
> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
> live hand to mouth.
>
> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
>
> AB
In your context, what does "effectively" mean?
>> That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
>> horrid living in the sticks.
>
> Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others
> can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to
> live hand to mouth.
>
> It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making
> millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while
> the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored.
>
> AB
It seems to mean "not at all, but I feel like saying so".
Dave Plowman (News)
Sep 14, 2019, 7:11:56 PM9/14/19
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In article <qlj4eo$1si7$3...@gioia.aioe.org>,
--
*Letting a cat out of the bag is easier than putting it back in *
Bill Wright <wrights...@f2s.com> wrote:
> On 14/09/2019 11:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> > In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
> >> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
> >> millionaires. It尽 a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him.
> On 14/09/2019 11:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> > In article <gu3jpq...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >> Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's
> >> money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from
> >
> > That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
> > horrid living in the sticks.
> >
> Lots and lots of people are millionaires if you include the values of
> their property.
How else would you calculate it, Bill?
> > That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be
> > horrid living in the sticks.
> >
> Lots and lots of people are millionaires if you include the values of
> their property.
--
*Letting a cat out of the bag is easier than putting it back in *
Dave Plowman (News)
Sep 14, 2019, 7:11:57 PM9/14/19
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In article <qlj2ki$1lmg$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
--
*'ome is where you 'ang your @ *
Brian Reay <no...@m.com> wrote:
> It is hypocrites
> I've a problem with- Socialists who hold their hand out expecting
> someone to fill it with money.
It's OK anyone else to do it, then?
> It is hypocrites
> I've a problem with- Socialists who hold their hand out expecting
> someone to fill it with money.
--
*'ome is where you 'ang your @ *
The Natural Philosopher
Sep 15, 2019, 4:06:52 AM9/15/19
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> It seems to mean "not at all, but I feel like saying so".
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.
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