Is AIOE news server working for anyone?

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 7:58:12 AM4/14/21

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Stopped working for me at just before 18.00 hrs 13th April 2021.....
(Thunderbird checks for new posts at minute intervals....)

I have now switched to Eternal September.....

Andrew

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Apr 14, 2021, 8:16:40 AM4/14/21

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It had a hissy fit over the weekend for me too. Ok now.

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 8:24:34 AM4/14/21

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not for me still..... the newsgroup lists are not synchronising...

Are you using newsfeed.aioe.org or news.aioe.org or nntp.aioe.org?

Dave Plowman (News)

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Apr 14, 2021, 8:31:13 AM4/14/21

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In article <s56lch$qig$2...@dont-email.me>,

I use both here. If one isn't working, the other one likely is. And my
Newsreader will look for duplication, and not download any.

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Andrew

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Apr 14, 2021, 8:31:35 AM4/14/21

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news://nntp.aioe.org:119/uk.d-i-y

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 8:43:52 AM4/14/21

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I get connection to server nntp.aioe.org timed out.

I have done the ping test in CMD prompt and I get

C:\Windows\system32>ping nntp.aioe.org

Pinging nntp.aioe.org [46.165.242.75] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 46.165.242.75: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=54
Reply from 46.165.242.75: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=54
Reply from 46.165.242.75: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=54
Reply from 46.165.242.75: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 46.165.242.75:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 23ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 23ms

C:\Windows\system32>

Andy Burns

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Apr 14, 2021, 9:49:10 AM4/14/21

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SH wrote:

> Stopped working for me at just before 18.00 hrs 13th April 2021.....

newest message on aioe for me at 13:05 today

Andy Burns

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Apr 14, 2021, 9:50:58 AM4/14/21

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SH wrote:

> On 14/04/2021 13:31, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> Are you using newsfeed.aioe.org or news.aioe.org or nntp.aioe.org?
> >> news://nntp.aioe.org:119/uk.d-i-y

using nntp.aioe.org
port 563 here

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 9:59:31 AM4/14/21

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the mystery deepens.....

the AIOE websites are not responding either....

www.aioe.org

results in "Hmmm cant reach this page"

www.aioe.org took too long to respond.....

Is the website working for anyone else?

S.

Andy Burns

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Apr 14, 2021, 10:02:58 AM4/14/21

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SH wrote:

> www.aioe.org took too long to respond.....
> Is the website working for anyone else?

yep.

routing issue with your isp? I'm on plusnet

temporary blacklisted by aioe for overuse?

using a VPN by accident?

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 11:15:16 AM4/14/21

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I am on symmetric 500 Mbit/s fibre to the home on vodafone gigafast.....

Only my moby uses a VPN back to mu own VPN server.

Ping works though, the page doesn't load.

I use AIOE for reading news and don't write replies very often so
certainly not overuse.

S.

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 11:20:18 AM4/14/21

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just done a tracert....

C:\Windows\system32>tracert www.aioe.org

Tracing route to www.aioe.org [46.165.242.91]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms (my static ip)
3 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 63.130.104.198
4 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms ae11-100-xcr1.hex.cw.net [195.89.96.1]
5 8 ms 12 ms 9 ms ldn-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.61.190]
6 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms ldn-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net
[62.115.122.188]
7 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms prs-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net
[62.115.135.25]
8 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net
[62.115.123.12]
9 24 ms 22 ms 22 ms ffm-b1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.125.75]
10 22 ms 25 ms 22 ms
leaseweb-ic150711-ffm-b1.ip.twelve99-cust.net [195.12.255.250]
11 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms po-1.ce04.fra-10.de.leaseweb.net
[217.20.127.13]
12 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms gioia.aioe.org [46.165.242.91]

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\system32>

So there is a clear path with no long delays anywhere......

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 11:25:47 AM4/14/21

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Also done a set of nslookups with different DNS'es like googles and
cloudflares as well as my own DNS....

They all return the same IP for news.aioe.org (in case their IP addy had
changed and the DNSes around world needed to update)

C:\Windows\system32>nslookup news.aioe.org
Server: raspberrypi.lan
Address: 192.168.0.29

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.aioe.org
Address: 46.165.242.91

C:\Windows\system32>nslookup news.aioe.org 8.8.8.8
Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.aioe.org
Address: 46.165.242.91

C:\Windows\system32>nslookup news.aioe.org 8.8.4.4
Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.4.4

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.aioe.org
Address: 46.165.242.91

C:\Windows\system32>nslookup news.aioe.org 1.1.1.1
Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.aioe.org
Address: 46.165.242.91

C:\Windows\system32>nslookup news.aioe.org 1.0.0.1
Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.aioe.org
Address: 46.165.242.91

C:\Windows\system32>

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 11:35:18 AM4/14/21

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and before anyone asks, I've restarted my DNS server too :-)

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 11:51:04 AM4/14/21

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Well I found my answer:

My static IP has been blocked temporarily due to

Connection time exceeded 90000 seconds in 86400 seconds

How is that even possible to have a connection time greater than 86400
seconds?

Brian Gaff

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Apr 14, 2021, 12:00:35 PM4/14/21

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Well its my back up so if you see this then yes, but be aware too many posts
in a certain time tends to blacklist you for some time.
Brian

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SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 12:05:36 PM4/14/21

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On 14/04/2021 17:00, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Well its my back up so if you see this then yes, but be aware too many posts
> in a certain time tends to blacklist you for some time.
> Brian
>

Ironically, I set up a Win 10 virtual machine and also a VPN.

I was then able to go to www.aioe.org's website.

There is a list of "banned IP's and my static IP was listed in there :-(

The "ban" expires in about 1 hr 15 mins so I should be back on AIOE
before too long.....

Martin Brown

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Apr 14, 2021, 3:22:10 PM4/14/21

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On 14/04/2021 13:24, SH wrote:

The last of those. I didn't notice it being down yesterday either.

I did have a glitch about a month ago much like describe though.

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Martin Brown

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Apr 14, 2021, 3:24:26 PM4/14/21

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Yes. The symptoms you describe are exactly like what I had sometime last
month. It lasted long enough (a few days) for me to have set up and
configured an alternative newsfeed but then just as mysteriously started
working again.

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SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 3:31:20 PM4/14/21

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Well I am now back on AIOE.....

turns out my static IP was blacklisted for 24 hours....

Once you're black listed you can't check the IP blacklist so I ended up
using a virtual machine and VPN'ed out to a differewnt country.

The I was able to browse the website and found the entry for my static
IP in the IP blacklist below:

Connection time exceeded 90000 seconds in 86400 seconds 14/04/2021
17:14:47 1 hour, 28 minutes, 48 seconds

SO I assume I broke the speed of light in being able to be connected in
excess of 90000 seconds in a time period of 86400 seconds.

(which is 25 hours connected over a 24 hours period)

Paul

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Apr 14, 2021, 4:02:53 PM4/14/21

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You already posted the clue in your above posts.

You've set up your news reader to check for new news
articles, at *way too high a frequency*. Don't
do that!

They hate it when you do that.

Set the check for new news articles, once every
15 minutes (900 seconds).

Reduce the Thunderbird max_connections, from
8 to 2 or even 1.

Thunderbird is adjustable, and with no trouble
at all, you can stay within the TOS limits of the
service.

Paul

SH

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Apr 14, 2021, 4:14:26 PM4/14/21

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Well I used to be on Virginmedia and they had their "own" news server
(which in reality was provided by Astraweb or Solarwinds over a VM proxy
IIRC).

Checking every minute was not a problem for VM.

I then switch from VM to Vodafone fibre to lower my bills AND get higher
speeds both ways.

The VM news server is not accessible from Vodafone and Vodafone do not
provide any news server service at all.

So thats how I ended up with AIOE (and now Eternal September too)

John Miller

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Apr 14, 2021, 8:22:41 PM4/14/21

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On 14/04/2021 12:58, SH wrote:

I'm using nntp.aioe.org on Port 119 - no problems so far.
John M

RJH

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Apr 15, 2021, 2:49:08 AM4/15/21

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It was for a couple of days last week - switched to Eternal September for that
time.

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#Paul

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Apr 15, 2021, 6:32:05 AM4/15/21

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This might be a different thing, but in case it's useful:

Occasionally I find that aioe seem to have decided to renumber their
articles, and so my news software ends up re downloading a great many
old articles, sometimes going back months. This then takes me over
some limit and I have to stop news fetching for a few days until I get
off their list. It hasn't happened to me recently, however.

At other times it takes a dislike to something I am posting (as well
they might, you say; but I think it's usually somthing like too wide
crossposting due to a followup, which I hadnt trimmed) and refuses
it; but then naturally at my next connect it is attempted again, so
again at some point I get blocked again for a few days. Then if I want
to actually post my followups I have to reduce the crossposts *and*
update the datestamps; otherwise they are "too old" and get blocked.

#Paul

Andrew

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Apr 15, 2021, 7:38:22 AM4/15/21

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On 14/04/2021 14:50, Andy Burns wrote:

I just let Tbird do the necessary. What is the difference
between 119 and 563 ?

Andy Burns

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Apr 15, 2021, 7:43:53 AM4/15/21

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Andrew wrote:

> I just let Tbird do the necessary. What is the difference
> between 119 and 563 ?

encryption, but I think the only reason I enabled it was one time when
port 119 was failing and 563 was working.

SH

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Apr 15, 2021, 10:55:47 AM4/15/21

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one is a plain text port and the other is encrypted SSL/TLS port I believe?

Rainer Bielefeld

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Jan 25, 2023, 1:00:27 AM1/25/23

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Stopped working for me yesterday, AIOE.ORG is down?

Brian Gaff

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Jan 25, 2023, 4:28:57 AM1/25/23

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Well I just sent it a message and its reporting after a wait, cannot
connect, so its probably done the update that ES did last week that stopped
that for a day. Just speculating.
Brian

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Pancho

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Jan 25, 2023, 5:12:53 AM1/25/23

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On 25/01/2023 06:00, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Stopped working for me yesterday, AIOE.ORG is down?

Stopped for me yesterday too, or maybe before.

I use both AIOE and Eternal-September for resilience, it's easy to set
up two news servers in Thunderbird.

Andrew

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Jan 25, 2023, 12:15:07 PM1/25/23

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Hi Rainer, it worked for me on Monday but was dead a day later and has not resurfaced since.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=aioe.org+down&kl=uk-en&t=seamonkey&ia=answer basically just says that it is down and I have not yet found a source of "inside information" as to what is going on.

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Paul

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Jan 25, 2023, 1:32:32 PM1/25/23

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On 1/25/2023 1:00 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Stopped working for me yesterday, AIOE.ORG is down?
>

< Sniffs the air... >

tracert news.aioe.org

...
4 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms toro-b3-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.171.248]
5 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms toro-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.117.229]
6 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms nyk-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.123.108]
7 99 ms 99 ms 99 ms ldn-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.113.21]
8 106 ms 105 ms 106 ms prs-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.135.25]
9 114 ms 113 ms 113 ms ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.123.12]
10 113 ms 112 ms 112 ms ffm-b1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.121.1]
11 113 ms 112 ms 113 ms leaseweb-ic150711-ffm-b1.ip.twelve99-cust.net [195.12.255.250]
12 113 ms 113 ms 113 ms be-1001.br02.fra-01.de.leaseweb.net [212.95.37.198]
13 113 ms 114 ms 112 ms po-2.ce08.fra-01.de.leaseweb.net [212.95.37.33]
14 113 ms 112 ms 113 ms gioia.aioe.org [46.165.242.91]

Trace complete.

I don't think it was doing that yesterday. Hop 14 was unreachable,
according to someone with enough sense to trace route the thing yesterday.

ping gioia.aioe.org
Ping request could not find host gioia.aioe.org. Please check the name and try again.

ping 46.165.242.91

Pinging 46.165.242.91 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52

Numeric ping works. Symbolic ping does not work. Trace Route works after a fashion.

Router problem inside leaseweb.net ? Does not paying the bill look like that ?

ping news.aioe.org

Pinging news.aioe.org [46.165.242.91] with 32 bytes of data: <=== Hmmm. <sniffs air>
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=114ms TTL=52 <=== <"I sense something">
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52

ping nntp.aioe.org

Pinging nntp.aioe.org [46.165.242.75] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.95.37.33: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 212.95.37.33: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 212.95.37.33: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 212.95.37.33: Destination host unreachable.

OK, we're half up kids :-) I hear the clank of a pipe
spanner and swearing in Italian.

That does not mean you can do news on news.aioe.org ,
but you should be able to re-test at that address. Because
that address is ping-able at the moment.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220214161125/https://news.aioe.org/

nntp.aioe.org (main server)

119 (Plain and TLS)
563 (SSL Only)
443 (SSL Only)
22 (SSL Only)
80 (Plain and TLS)

news.aioe.org (backup server, if overloaded or unreachable.
This server is slower)

119 (Plain and TLS)
563 (SSL only)

Paul

Andy Burns

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Jan 25, 2023, 2:16:34 PM1/25/23

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Paul wrote:

> On 1/25/2023 1:00 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>> Stopped working for me yesterday, AIOE.ORG is down?
>>
>
> < Sniffs the air... >
>
> tracert news.aioe.org
>

> OK, we're half up kids :-) I hear the clank of a pipe
> spanner and swearing in Italian.

previously it was timing-out for thunderbird, now it's actively refusing
connection, so I tend to agree, they've got the bonnet open ...

Brian Gaff

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Jan 26, 2023, 4:21:41 AM1/26/23

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If you recall, a couple of days earlier, ES was off, and when this sort of
coincidence occurs, one smells the phrase rogue software update in the air.

Also been noticing of late that some perfectly respectable newsgroups have
vanished as well.

Brian

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Andy Burns

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Jan 26, 2023, 12:35:54 PM1/26/23

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Brian Gaff wrote:

> If you recall, a couple of days earlier, ES was off, and when this sort of
> coincidence occurs, one smells the phrase rogue software update in the air.

dead raid controller, maybe dead discs too ...

Rod Speed

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Jan 26, 2023, 12:54:30 PM1/26/23

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On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:21:31 +1100, Brian Gaff <brian...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If you recall, a couple of days earlier, ES was off, and when this sort
> of
> coincidence occurs, one smells the phrase rogue software update in the
> air.

Then you need a new nose. The RAID controller has died.

Message has been deleted

Fred. Zwarts

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Feb 1, 2023, 5:59:33 AM2/1/23

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Op donderdag 26 januari 2023 om 18:54:30 UTC+1 schreef rod.sp...@gmail.com:

Is it expected to come back? When?

SH

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Feb 1, 2023, 6:16:34 AM2/1/23

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you seem remarkably well informed if that is the case considering AIOE's
website is unreachable....

Andy Burns

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Feb 1, 2023, 9:28:57 AM2/1/23

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SH wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> dead raid controller, maybe dead discs too ...
>
> you seem remarkably well informed if that is the case considering AIOE's
> website is unreachable....

Someone had emailed the aioe admin and reported the tale of hardware
problems in another group ...

Message has been deleted

Rod Speed

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On Wed, 01 Feb 2023 21:59:31 +1100, Fred. Zwarts <f.zw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

The email from them was too early to be able to say if it
was going to be feasible to recover although that was the
intention. Too early to say what was involved and so when.

Rod Speed

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Feb 1, 2023, 12:31:53 PM2/1/23

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He said that in an email to someone.

Rod Speed

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Feb 1, 2023, 1:03:19 PM2/1/23

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On Thu, 02 Feb 2023 03:07:30 +1100, Claudio F <claudi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It has been several days since the aioe has stopped working. (ne news.
> ne nntp). Do you have any official note if it will resume

An email from him said that is being attempted.

> or if it has been permanently shut down

He hasn't said that.

> and we will have to find another server?

Peeler

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Feb 1, 2023, 1:13:27 PM2/1/23

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On Thu, 02 Feb 2023 04:30:37 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

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asshole.
MID: <ev1p6ml7ywd5$.d...@sqwertz.com>

Peeler

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Feb 1, 2023, 1:13:50 PM2/1/23

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On Thu, 02 Feb 2023 04:28:32 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

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Pomegranate Bastard addressing the trolling senile cretin from Oz:
"Surely you can find an Australian group to pollute rather than posting
your unwanted guff here."
MID: <c1pqvgte5ldlo1rn3...@4ax.com>

Peeler

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Feb 1, 2023, 1:14:22 PM2/1/23

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"Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."

https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/

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we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?"
Message-ID: <plbf76$gfl$1...@dont-email.me>

Paul

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Feb 2, 2023, 11:18:34 PM2/2/23

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The site is reachable.

*******

ping news.aioe.org

Pinging news.aioe.org [46.165.242.91] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52
Reply from 46.165.242.91: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=52

Ping statistics for 46.165.242.91:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 113ms, Maximum = 113ms, Average = 113ms

*******

But that does not mean there is any application software
running on it. The RAID array is quite possibly separate
from the boot drive. (The COLO rental mentions a boot drive,
but no mention of any RAID on there.) When you rent a server,
it is under lock and key, you cannot visit.

Paul

John Donnelly

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Feb 17, 2023, 10:18:14 AM2/17/23

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FIXED YET ?

John Miller

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Feb 17, 2023, 8:01:18 PM2/17/23

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Not for me - not been available for a couple of weeks now. I've switched
to Eternal September.

Marco Moock

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Feb 19, 2023, 8:55:21 AM2/19/23

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Am 17.02.2023 um 07:18:10 Uhr schrieb John Donnelly:

> FIXED YET ?

No, NNTP isn't running at this time.

SH

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Feb 19, 2023, 2:05:28 PM2/19/23

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i have found another free news server...

news.cyber23.de

so I have cyber23.de as well as eternal september and AIOE in
Thunderbird......