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Mathew Newton
Apr 2, 2014, 10:05:40 AM4/2/14
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Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though my garage to the back garden.
It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but wondered if I might be missing something that could really help matters?
I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot burying the barrow in one go.
Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from the top?
It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but wondered if I might be missing something that could really help matters?
I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot burying the barrow in one go.
Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from the top?
Andy Burns
Apr 2, 2014, 10:17:32 AM4/2/14
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Mathew Newton wrote:
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags [...]
had three bulk bags of MOT1, I was able to have them delivered onto the
area where I wanted it spread, unfortunately it arrived before I was
ready to spread it, so I couldn't slit the bags while they were
suspended from the HIAB.
I briefly considered trying to save the bulk bags by shovelling the hard
core out, quickly decided that was too much effort, tried a single slice
up the centre of one side of the bag, that made getting the bottom 1/2
out of the bag difficult.
For the final two bags, I cut round the base of the bag on three of the
sides as low to the ground as I could, then cut up the centre of the
middle side, that got a good spill of the contents, and by brute force I
was able to lift/tip the remainder out.
Depends if you've got a large area to do that where your soil is
actually going to be delivered.
I've got to get about half a dozen bags round to the back soon, not
looking forward to that ...
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags [...]
> Any tips or other words of wisdom?
My recent experience probably doesn't help your situation, but anyway, I
had three bulk bags of MOT1, I was able to have them delivered onto the
area where I wanted it spread, unfortunately it arrived before I was
ready to spread it, so I couldn't slit the bags while they were
suspended from the HIAB.
I briefly considered trying to save the bulk bags by shovelling the hard
core out, quickly decided that was too much effort, tried a single slice
up the centre of one side of the bag, that made getting the bottom 1/2
out of the bag difficult.
For the final two bags, I cut round the base of the bag on three of the
sides as low to the ground as I could, then cut up the centre of the
middle side, that got a good spill of the contents, and by brute force I
was able to lift/tip the remainder out.
Depends if you've got a large area to do that where your soil is
actually going to be delivered.
I've got to get about half a dozen bags round to the back soon, not
looking forward to that ...
mogga
Apr 2, 2014, 10:18:05 AM4/2/14
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Find a few volunteers to help. Even if they only brew up.
Soil isn't too bad to move, but cover it to stop it getting rained on.
A bag a day would be reasonable if you're fairly fit.
Do a couple of barrows and have a rest. Walk about and stretch. Do a
few more and stop for a brew. Repeat.
If you aren't used to exercise then do not do more than 10 the first
day.
Clench your abs whilst lifting the barrow though and it gives them an
extra workout. :-)
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John Rumm
Apr 2, 2014, 10:49:10 AM4/2/14
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if you have the bags put down on hard standing (or some 8x4 sheets of a
suitable sheet material like OSB), then slit them up the side it will go
quicker.
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Adrian
Apr 2, 2014, 10:53:20 AM4/2/14
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 07:05:40 -0700, Mathew Newton wrote:
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags
So near-nuff 2t each.
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags
> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role
spuorg...@gowanhill.com
Apr 2, 2014, 11:30:48 AM4/2/14
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On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:05:40 PM UTC+1, Mathew Newton wrote:
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk
> bags and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though
> my garage to the back garden.
crane it over
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk
> bags and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though
> my garage to the back garden.
conveyor belt
vacuum pipe and suck it through
rugby team
Owain
Tim Watts
Apr 2, 2014, 11:33:55 AM4/2/14
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flap shut (needs to have a good grip, maybe mole grips). When the bag is
under tension, the flap will probably not meet the edge of the hole so
you may need to tie a piece of strong rope to one of the handles and
molegrip the top of the flap to that. If it's mostly closed, the soil
should stay inside.
If the soil does not run freely, cut a second 1 ft flap joining the first.
It's certainly the builder's preferred method, to slice open the bags.
Graham.
Apr 2, 2014, 12:38:19 PM4/2/14
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:30:48 -0700 (PDT), spuorg...@gowanhill.com
wrote:
#There must be 50 ways to heave your shovel#
Coat?
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Graham.
%Profound_observation%
wrote:
Coat?
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Graham.
%Profound_observation%
Mathew Newton
Apr 2, 2014, 2:23:45 PM4/2/14
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On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 15:17:32 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
> My recent experience probably doesn't help your situation, but anyway, I
> had three bulk bags of MOT1, [...]
> My recent experience probably doesn't help your situation, but anyway, I
It does help; thank you. And thanks for the other comments also.
> Depends if you've got a large area to do that where your soil is
> actually going to be delivered.
> I've got to get about half a dozen bags round to the back soon, not
> looking forward to that ...
Mathew Newton
Apr 2, 2014, 2:25:37 PM4/2/14
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On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 15:18:05 UTC+1, mogga wrote:
> A bag a day would be reasonable if you're fairly fit.
Oh dear, perhaps I'm underestimating how much work there's going to be! I had visions of me finishing within the day!
> A bag a day would be reasonable if you're fairly fit.
I'll be fine with the fitness side of things, and there's no rush time wise (noting your suggestion to protect it from rain) so it'll take as long as it takes.
Mathew Newton
Apr 2, 2014, 2:28:19 PM4/2/14
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On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 15:53:20 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
> So near-nuff 2t each.
>
>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role
>
> D'you feel lucky?
He he, I should've clarified my intentions there!
> So near-nuff 2t each.
>
>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role
>
> D'you feel lucky?
I figured that shovelling out of the top half of a bag probably wouldn't be too much of an issue, particularly given there won't be much bending over to do, and so would probably only attempt the lift-and-dump method once I'm quite a way down the bag.
Thinking about it now; I well may need to split the bags to let it all come out as the soil is consolidated and so likely not to the loose fluffy stuff that I'm picturing in my mind!
Mathew Newton
Apr 2, 2014, 2:29:53 PM4/2/14
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On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 16:33:55 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
> It's certainly the builder's preferred method, to slice open the bags.
It sounds like it's certainly going to come to that, probably sooner rather than later once the desire to get the job done 'easily' overrides that of doing it cleanly!
> It's certainly the builder's preferred method, to slice open the bags.
Mike Barnes
Apr 2, 2014, 2:31:39 PM4/2/14
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Mathew Newton wrote:
> Presumably shifting hardcore is a but more difficult than topsoil too.
The most difficult bulk material I've ever had to shift was a ton or so
> Presumably shifting hardcore is a but more difficult than topsoil too.
of smooth pebbles, orange- and lemon-sized.
--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
Mathew Newton
Apr 2, 2014, 3:07:57 PM4/2/14
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On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 19:31:39 UTC+1, Mike Barnes wrote:
> The most difficult bulk material I've ever had to shift was a ton or so
> of smooth pebbles, orange- and lemon-sized.
Ouch. Too big for easy shovelling, too small for one-by-one shifting!
> The most difficult bulk material I've ever had to shift was a ton or so
> of smooth pebbles, orange- and lemon-sized.
Tim+
Apr 2, 2014, 3:25:38 PM4/2/14
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John Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:
> On 02/04/2014 15:05, Mathew Newton wrote:
>> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags
>> and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though my garage
>> to the back garden.
>>
>> It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but
>> wondered if I might be missing something that could really help
>> matters?
>>
>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role
>> - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in
>> the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but
>> is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot
>> burying the barrow in one go.
>>
>> Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing
>> into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from
>> the top?
>
> Its much easier to shovel off a flat surface than it is out of a bag. So
> if you have the bags put down on hard standing (or some 8x4 sheets of a
> suitable sheet material like OSB), then slit them up the side it will go quicker.
>
+1. *Much* much easier to shovel it up from a hard surface. Well worth
> On 02/04/2014 15:05, Mathew Newton wrote:
>> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags
>> and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though my garage
>> to the back garden.
>>
>> It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but
>> wondered if I might be missing something that could really help
>> matters?
>>
>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role
>> - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in
>> the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but
>> is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot
>> burying the barrow in one go.
>>
>> Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing
>> into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from
>> the top?
>
> Its much easier to shovel off a flat surface than it is out of a bag. So
> if you have the bags put down on hard standing (or some 8x4 sheets of a
> suitable sheet material like OSB), then slit them up the side it will go quicker.
>
sacrificing a cheap bit of board for.
Tim
John Rumm
Apr 2, 2014, 4:02:31 PM4/2/14
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beds. While not exactly "fluffy" loamy stuff, it was not a compacted
lump of sod either. Cutting the bag, and doing the first bit from the
bag, and then tipping the remainder onto a bit of scrap ply made the
second half easier. Note that I cheated somewhat in that I was filling a
trailer that I could tow with the mower, so I could move a full bag in a
bout three trips, and I could also use the mower to tip the bag over
when half empty (rope through two handles, and pull).
Tim Lamb
Apr 2, 2014, 3:58:02 PM4/2/14
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In message <j_mdnYpNv8b-vqHO...@brightview.co.uk>, John
Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
out the top half is reasonably easy as you are working down hill. By
half way the lifting loops and bag top become a nuisance.
If you are determined to try lifting what is left you need a means of
closing off the hole you have made in the bottom. Now, pay attention at
the back, first find a piece of ply (12mm x 200mm x 1m will do) Cut the
bag bottom in the form of a T with the cross bar the same length as the
width of you ply.
When you want to stop the flow, insert the ply horizontally at the T top
and push beyond the length of your slit.
Works for free flowing fertiliser so it ought to work for soil!
>
>
--
Tim Lamb
Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
>On 02/04/2014 15:05, Mathew Newton wrote:
>> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags
>> and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though my garage
>> to the back garden.
>>
>> It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but
>> wondered if I might be missing something that could really help
>> matters?
>>
>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role
>> - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in
>> the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but
>> is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot
>> burying the barrow in one go.
>>
>> Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing
>> into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from
>> the top?
>
>Its much easier to shovel off a flat surface than it is out of a bag.
>So if you have the bags put down on hard standing (or some 8x4 sheets
>of a suitable sheet material like OSB), then slit them up the side it
>will go quicker.
Agree about the flat surface for shovelling. Failing that, shovelling
>> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags
>> and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though my garage
>> to the back garden.
>>
>> It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but
>> wondered if I might be missing something that could really help
>> matters?
>>
>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role
>> - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in
>> the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but
>> is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot
>> burying the barrow in one go.
>>
>> Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing
>> into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from
>> the top?
>
>Its much easier to shovel off a flat surface than it is out of a bag.
>So if you have the bags put down on hard standing (or some 8x4 sheets
>of a suitable sheet material like OSB), then slit them up the side it
>will go quicker.
out the top half is reasonably easy as you are working down hill. By
half way the lifting loops and bag top become a nuisance.
If you are determined to try lifting what is left you need a means of
closing off the hole you have made in the bottom. Now, pay attention at
the back, first find a piece of ply (12mm x 200mm x 1m will do) Cut the
bag bottom in the form of a T with the cross bar the same length as the
width of you ply.
When you want to stop the flow, insert the ply horizontally at the T top
and push beyond the length of your slit.
Works for free flowing fertiliser so it ought to work for soil!
>
>
--
Tim Lamb
Tim Watts
Apr 2, 2014, 5:02:14 PM4/2/14
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On 02/04/14 21:02, John Rumm wrote:
> On 02/04/2014 19:28, Mathew Newton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 15:53:20 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
>>
>>> So near-nuff 2t each.
>>>
>>>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a
>>>> role
>>>
>>> D'you feel lucky?
>>
>> He he, I should've clarified my intentions there!
>>
>> I figured that shovelling out of the top half of a bag probably
>> wouldn't be too much of an issue, particularly given there won't be
>> much bending over to do, and so would probably only attempt the
>> lift-and-dump method once I'm quite a way down the bag.
>>
>> Thinking about it now; I well may need to split the bags to let it
>> all come out as the soil is consolidated and so likely not to the
>> loose fluffy stuff that I'm picturing in my mind!
>
> I played this game last year with some soil I ordered fro filling raised
> beds. While not exactly "fluffy" loamy stuff, it was not a compacted
> lump of sod either. Cutting the bag, and doing the first bit from the
> bag, and then tipping the remainder onto a bit of scrap ply made the
> second half easier. Note that I cheated somewhat in that I was filling a
> trailer that I could tow with the mower, so I could move a full bag in a
> bout three trips, and I could also use the mower to tip the bag over
> when half empty (rope through two handles, and pull).
>
>
Even a sheet of tarpauline or heavy "DPM" type plastic can work quite
> On 02/04/2014 19:28, Mathew Newton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 15:53:20 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
>>
>>> So near-nuff 2t each.
>>>
>>>> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a
>>>> role
>>>
>>> D'you feel lucky?
>>
>> He he, I should've clarified my intentions there!
>>
>> I figured that shovelling out of the top half of a bag probably
>> wouldn't be too much of an issue, particularly given there won't be
>> much bending over to do, and so would probably only attempt the
>> lift-and-dump method once I'm quite a way down the bag.
>>
>> Thinking about it now; I well may need to split the bags to let it
>> all come out as the soil is consolidated and so likely not to the
>> loose fluffy stuff that I'm picturing in my mind!
>
> I played this game last year with some soil I ordered fro filling raised
> beds. While not exactly "fluffy" loamy stuff, it was not a compacted
> lump of sod either. Cutting the bag, and doing the first bit from the
> bag, and then tipping the remainder onto a bit of scrap ply made the
> second half easier. Note that I cheated somewhat in that I was filling a
> trailer that I could tow with the mower, so I could move a full bag in a
> bout three trips, and I could also use the mower to tip the bag over
> when half empty (rope through two handles, and pull).
>
>
well if you avoid hitting it too much with the shovel. When you are down
to the last barrowload, you can pull the corners of the plastic up and
gather the last of the soil into the centre. From experience :)
bbla...@airsource.co.uk
Apr 2, 2014, 7:26:52 PM4/2/14
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On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 19:25:37 UTC+1, Mathew Newton wrote:
> On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 15:18:05 UTC+1, mogga wrote:
>
>
>
> > A bag a day would be reasonable if you're fairly fit.
>
>
>
> Oh dear, perhaps I'm underestimating how much work there's going to be! I had visions of me finishing within the day!
Me and my dad shifted 4 tonnes of soil (I shovelled, he barrowed) and a similar amount of hardcore (he broke it out, I chucked it in the skip). He does it for a living, last time I did it regularly was when I was a kid.
> On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 15:18:05 UTC+1, mogga wrote:
>
>
>
> > A bag a day would be reasonable if you're fairly fit.
>
>
>
> Oh dear, perhaps I'm underestimating how much work there's going to be! I had visions of me finishing within the day!
I kept up, just, but my back was screaming at me by the end.
On the plus side if you shovel and barrow yourself, you'll be using different muscles each time you switch :)
Bill Wright
Apr 2, 2014, 8:01:17 PM4/2/14
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Mathew Newton wrote:
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags and I will need to transport this via a
wheelbarrow though my garage to the back garden.
The students are on holiday from the 5th. Select a couple of young fit
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags and I will need to transport this via a
wheelbarrow though my garage to the back garden.
ones and offer something irresistible such as £9 per hour.
Bill
Rod Speed
Apr 2, 2014, 9:08:40 PM4/2/14
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Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote
Bet he would find they just make an obscene gesture in
his general direction after the first couple of barrow loads.
his general direction after the first couple of barrow loads.
harryagain
Apr 3, 2014, 2:10:29 AM4/3/14
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"Mathew Newton" <mathewja...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:0d39ebeb-0c07-443d...@googlegroups.com...
BTW, you can hire conveyors if it's practical to use one.
A pointy shovel is much easier to use than a square mouth one for a job like
this. (Sticks into the soil much easier)
www.GymRatZ.co.uk
Apr 3, 2014, 4:23:50 AM4/3/14
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On 02/04/2014 19:25, Mathew Newton wrote:
> Oh dear, perhaps I'm underestimating how much work there's going to be! I had visions of me finishing within the day!
>
> I'll be fine with the fitness side of things, and there's no rush time wise (noting your suggestion to protect it from rain) so it'll take as long as it takes.
You should be fine in a day.
> Oh dear, perhaps I'm underestimating how much work there's going to be! I had visions of me finishing within the day!
>
> I'll be fine with the fitness side of things, and there's no rush time wise (noting your suggestion to protect it from rain) so it'll take as long as it takes.
I've had to shift full bags of sand from the top of the garden where it
was craned to the bottom by the pond, negotiating 7 or 8 steps which I
turned into "less" of a hazard by placing a concrete block on each step.
It's really easy as long as your strength/fitness ego doesn't get the
better of you and you start filling the wheel barrow into a heaped
mound... Did this, lost balance on the steps and trying to recover the
barrow I was catapulted into the corner of a concrete fence post. Bust a
blood vessel and a sweet 2" long gash in me skull skin that needed quite
a number of stitches.
A day should be ample.
:)
Pete@
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physical challenge. - Making strongman training equipment since 1999.
Mathew Newton
Apr 3, 2014, 5:09:43 AM4/3/14
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On Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:23:50 AM UTC+1, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
> It's really easy as long as your strength/fitness ego doesn't get the better
> of you and you start filling the wheel barrow into a heaped mound...
Yes, I know that only too well. Clearing the garden in the first place filled a 6yd skip and I was rather pleased with myself that the scaffold-plank ramp hadn't let me down... Until that is the very last barrowfull when I didn't take my tiredness into account and clearly overfilled it. As a result I ran out of momentum to reach the top so had to bail out spilling the contents everywhere (everywhere but the skip of course). Luckily there was nothing more than a bruised ego so a bit quicker healing than your injury.
> It's really easy as long as your strength/fitness ego doesn't get the better
> of you and you start filling the wheel barrow into a heaped mound...
> --
> http://www.gymratz.co.uk/strongman-wheelbarrow
> Some people like lifting wheelbarrows for no other reason than the
> physical challenge. - Making strongman training equipment since 1999.
mogga
Apr 3, 2014, 6:12:42 AM4/3/14
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I know I wouldn't want to move more than 1 bag of soil a day though.
We did have a team of 4 people move a huge muck pile in one day. It
took them 5 hours moving it though.
One of them had been digging and moving tonnes of soil for various
other projects before though.
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John Rumm
Apr 3, 2014, 4:03:25 PM4/3/14
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On 02/04/2014 19:25, Mathew Newton wrote:
Mr Fit in any sense, and yet I have done two bags of soil or, or a bag
of ballast into a mixer and out again in the space of a day without it
finishing me off completely ;-)
Mathew Newton
Apr 3, 2014, 4:27:05 PM4/3/14
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On Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:03:25 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
> You should be ok I would have thought [...]
I think I'll soon know once the stuff arrives. Whilst I can measure out a cubic metre to give me an idea it'll be no substitute to actually seeing it for real. I'm bracing myself for a sinking feeling when it becomes apparent how little a dent a full barrow load will make from a bag too!
> You should be ok I would have thought [...]
I think I'll soon know once the stuff arrives. Whilst I can measure out a cubic metre to give me an idea it'll be no substitute to actually seeing it for real. I'm bracing myself for a sinking feeling when it becomes apparent how little a dent a full barrow load will make from a bag too!
zaax
Apr 3, 2014, 4:48:25 PM4/3/14
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Mathew Newton wrote:
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though my garage to the back garden.
>
> It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but wondered if I might be missing something that could really help matters?
>
> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot burying the barrow in one go.
>
> Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from the top?
>
You'll be able them drag is when they are 2/3 empty
> Next week I've got nearly 7 tonnes of topsoil arriving in 4 bulk bags and I will need to transport this via a wheelbarrow though my garage to the back garden.
>
> It was my intention to simply fill the barrow using a spade but wondered if I might be missing something that could really help matters?
>
> I've got a 1T engine hoist and can't help feel that could play a role - perhaps by hoisting the bags in the air and my ripping a hole in the bottom above the barrow? Of course, it sounds straightforward but is bound to either not come out or will end up with the whole lot burying the barrow in one go.
>
> Any tips or other words of wisdom? Even simple things like slicing into the side of the bags and shovelling from there rather than from the top?
>
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Apr 3, 2014, 4:53:53 PM4/3/14
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On 03/04/2014 21:27, Mathew Newton wrote:
> I think I'll soon know once the stuff arrives. Whilst I can measure out a cubic metre to give me an idea it'll be no substitute to actually seeing it for real. I'm bracing myself for a sinking feeling when it becomes apparent how little a dent a full barrow load will make from a bag too!
Well.. Wickes (to choose someone at random) sells 85 litre wheelbarrows.
> I think I'll soon know once the stuff arrives. Whilst I can measure out a cubic metre to give me an idea it'll be no substitute to actually seeing it for real. I'm bracing myself for a sinking feeling when it becomes apparent how little a dent a full barrow load will make from a bag too!
A cubic metre is 1000 litres. So that's only a dozen loads.
Andy
dennis@home
Apr 4, 2014, 5:54:30 AM4/4/14
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They hold about a tonne of gravel or sand and are only about 0.8 x 0.8 x
0.8 m in size.
If they held a m3 they would weigh about 2 ton when filled with gravel.
Mathew Newton
Apr 4, 2014, 6:13:12 AM4/4/14
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On Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:53:53 PM UTC+1, Vir Campestris wrote:
> Well.. Wickes (to choose someone at random) sells 85 litre wheelbarrows.
> A cubic metre is 1000 litres. So that's only a dozen loads.
That's the theory; I'll have to see how well it translates to reality! ;-)
> Well.. Wickes (to choose someone at random) sells 85 litre wheelbarrows.
> A cubic metre is 1000 litres. So that's only a dozen loads.
Mathew Newton
Apr 4, 2014, 6:16:44 AM4/4/14
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On Friday, April 4, 2014 10:54:30 AM UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
> If he has ordered 7 "tonne" bags he will have a lot less than 7 m3.
It was ordered by volume; four, 1 cubic meter bags.
> If he has ordered 7 "tonne" bags he will have a lot less than 7 m3.
> [...] are only about 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 m in size.
And I think it is *those* bags that I've got pictured in my mind so when the cubic metre bags turn up I'm sure my thoughts will be how big they look!
> If they held a m3 they would weigh about 2 ton when filled with gravel.
Andy Burns
Apr 4, 2014, 1:34:54 PM4/4/14
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dennis@home wrote:
> If he has ordered 7 "tonne" bags he will have a lot less than 7 m3.
> They hold about a tonne of gravel or sand and are only about 0.8 x 0.8 x
> 0.8 m in size.
> If they held a m3 they would weigh about 2 ton when filled with gravel.
They tend to be sold as 850Kg bags, not 1 tonne.
> If he has ordered 7 "tonne" bags he will have a lot less than 7 m3.
> They hold about a tonne of gravel or sand and are only about 0.8 x 0.8 x
> 0.8 m in size.
> If they held a m3 they would weigh about 2 ton when filled with gravel.
Mathew Newton
Apr 9, 2014, 5:26:42 PM4/9/14
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On Thursday, 3 April 2014 09:23:50 UTC+1, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
> You should be fine in a day. [...]
You were right! They were delivered today and it's all now in place having taken about 5 hours including compaction/levelling. It wasn't too bad at all to be honest - a completely different experience to having dug the 6yd skip worth of clay out of the ground. In comparison to that, digging the topsoil out of the bags was absolutely child's play.
I must say, the quality of the soil (blended loam from Rolawn) was absolutely superb. Out of the whole lot I plucked literally only a handful of stones, a couple of twigs, and a postage stamp size of plastic. That's got to be good for something that presumably undergoes various stages of automated handling and processing.
There is however one drawback to such free flowing soil.... our cats are over the moon with their new litter tray...
Mathew
> You should be fine in a day. [...]
You were right! They were delivered today and it's all now in place having taken about 5 hours including compaction/levelling. It wasn't too bad at all to be honest - a completely different experience to having dug the 6yd skip worth of clay out of the ground. In comparison to that, digging the topsoil out of the bags was absolutely child's play.
I must say, the quality of the soil (blended loam from Rolawn) was absolutely superb. Out of the whole lot I plucked literally only a handful of stones, a couple of twigs, and a postage stamp size of plastic. That's got to be good for something that presumably undergoes various stages of automated handling and processing.
There is however one drawback to such free flowing soil.... our cats are over the moon with their new litter tray...
Mathew
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