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Timothy Murphy

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Jul 1, 2011, 6:16:43 AM7/1/11
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I want to attach a ceramic house number plate
to a plaster wall with somewhat crumbly paint.
This is an old house, and I assume the paint
is some kind of traditional whitewash
(though it is light pink in colour).

If I rub my hand on the wall some of the colour comes off.

I was given some Bostik PolyMax glue to attach the numbers.
But I'm not sure if I should scrape away the paint
where the numbers are to be attached,
or if the glue will bind the paint under the numbers.

Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.

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Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
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Tim Watts

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Jul 1, 2011, 6:51:29 AM7/1/11
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Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I want to attach a ceramic house number plate
> to a plaster wall with somewhat crumbly paint.
> This is an old house, and I assume the paint
> is some kind of traditional whitewash
> (though it is light pink in colour).
>
> If I rub my hand on the wall some of the colour comes off.
>
> I was given some Bostik PolyMax glue to attach the numbers.
> But I'm not sure if I should scrape away the paint
> where the numbers are to be attached,
> or if the glue will bind the paint under the numbers.
>
> Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.
>


Drop of old varnish, diluted with white spirit and applied to stabilise the
paint layers perhaps? Then glue to that.
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Tim Watts

Frank Erskine

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Jul 1, 2011, 8:10:10 AM7/1/11
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:16:43 +0200, Timothy Murphy
<gayl...@eircom.net> wrote:

>I want to attach a ceramic house number plate
>to a plaster wall with somewhat crumbly paint.
>This is an old house, and I assume the paint
>is some kind of traditional whitewash
>(though it is light pink in colour).
>
>If I rub my hand on the wall some of the colour comes off.
>
>I was given some Bostik PolyMax glue to attach the numbers.
>But I'm not sure if I should scrape away the paint
>where the numbers are to be attached,
>or if the glue will bind the paint under the numbers.
>
>Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.

Screws?

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Frank Erskine

Dave Liquorice

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Jul 1, 2011, 10:01:57 AM7/1/11
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:16:43 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> But I'm not sure if I should scrape away the paint where the numbers are
> to be attached, or if the glue will bind the paint under the numbers.

Well I expect the glue will bind to the paint but will the paint stay
on the wall?

I'd make sure the surface I was glueing to is sound, removing
anything loose or flakey. Do you have any of the paint to make good
any bits that come off that aren't hidden by the numbers?

Also check that the glue is suitable for outdoors, OK it's not
exposed to UV behind the numbers but what about long term damp and
temperature changes?

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Cheers
Dave.

Ret.

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Jul 1, 2011, 12:28:15 PM7/1/11
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Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I want to attach a ceramic house number plate
> to a plaster wall with somewhat crumbly paint.
> This is an old house, and I assume the paint
> is some kind of traditional whitewash
> (though it is light pink in colour).
>
> If I rub my hand on the wall some of the colour comes off.
>
> I was given some Bostik PolyMax glue to attach the numbers.
> But I'm not sure if I should scrape away the paint
> where the numbers are to be attached,
> or if the glue will bind the paint under the numbers.
>
> Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.

Cut a backboard of wood or marine ply the same size as the ceramic house
numbers and screw that to the wall. Then glue the ceramic tiles to the
backboard.

I did this but made the mistake of making the backboard from a left-over
piece of uPVC soffit. I glued the tiles to the uPVC with 'NoMoreNails' - but
after a few months the tiles dropped off and smashed! There was insufficient
grip on the shiny surface of the uPVC...

Next time we visited my wife's sister in Spain we bought another set of
numbered tiles and this time I punched a load of holes in the uPVC with a
spike in order to create a surface that the grip adhesive could hold onto!
It's been fine ever since.

--
Kev

NT

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Jul 1, 2011, 5:43:52 PM7/1/11
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On Jul 1, 11:16 am, Timothy Murphy <gayle...@eircom.net> wrote:
> I want to attach a ceramic house number plate
> to a plaster wall with somewhat crumbly paint.
> This is an old house, and I assume the paint
> is some kind of traditional whitewash
> (though it is light pink in colour).
>
> If I rub my hand on the wall some of the colour comes off.
>
> I was given some Bostik PolyMax glue to attach the numbers.
> But I'm not sure if I should scrape away the paint
> where the numbers are to be attached,
> or if the glue will bind the paint under the numbers.
>
> Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.

Place numbers against wall. Draw round them. Chisel out. Apply cement
and insrt the numbers. Tidy up. They should last a lifetime.

Glue on top of crumbling paint is pointless. Even if they dont fall
off within a week they wont last well.


NT

Frank Erskine

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Jul 1, 2011, 6:10:04 PM7/1/11
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 17:28:15 +0100, "Ret." <kev...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> I want to attach a ceramic house number plate
>> to a plaster wall with somewhat crumbly paint.
>> This is an old house, and I assume the paint
>> is some kind of traditional whitewash
>> (though it is light pink in colour).
>>
>> If I rub my hand on the wall some of the colour comes off.
>>
>> I was given some Bostik PolyMax glue to attach the numbers.
>> But I'm not sure if I should scrape away the paint
>> where the numbers are to be attached,
>> or if the glue will bind the paint under the numbers.
>>
>> Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.
>
>Cut a backboard of wood or marine ply the same size as the ceramic house
>numbers and screw that to the wall. Then glue the ceramic tiles to the
>backboard.

All the ceramic "house number" plaques I've seen have two countersunk
holes for fixing screws.

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Frank Erskine

Timothy Murphy

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Jul 2, 2011, 6:01:30 AM7/2/11
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Frank Erskine wrote:

> All the ceramic "house number" plaques I've seen have two countersunk
> holes for fixing screws.

Not these - they are an artistic Italian set ...

Timothy Murphy

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Jul 2, 2011, 6:03:47 AM7/2/11
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NT wrote:

> Place numbers against wall. Draw round them. Chisel out. Apply cement
> and insrt the numbers. Tidy up. They should last a lifetime.

That's what I'm doing.
Well, not with a chisel.
I'm just removing the whitewash/paint where the numbers will be.

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