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Brian Gaff (Sofa)
Nov 16, 2019, 3:28:11 AM11/16/19
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Yes the Evoke 1 and Sonus 1 are the same, the display lighting vanishes
eventually. At least the Sonus 1 has voice support. I was unaware of the
death of the display till somebody said your pretty pink and blue display
has gone off. Gather some other combinations were used in these radios. If
its one of the original radios, it is almost obsolete now many many stations
do not work since the hardware does not support DAB plus.
I find it very annoying that there is no replacement for these radios for
blind users. It is obviously pretty trivial to add proper text to speech
these days as most TVs have it. Its just cheapskate manufacturers buying off
the shelf solutions and putting them into their own cases.
I have had my one fixed twice, but I'm told there are no more main boards
left, and Pure are not interested nowadays. Used to be a company called
Radio changing parts, but to be honest, its cheaper now to get a new radio.
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> The display on my above digital radio has all but disappeared. In a
> darkened room, with a small torch illuminating the light sensor, it's
> just possible to make out that something is happening on the screen,
> but it is unreadable. I have tried going through the factory reset
> sequence, apparently to no avail, but as I can't actually see what's
> happening, I'm at a loss to know what I've managed to do, if anything.
> Without the display the radio is almost useless as I can't see to
> select various stations, set the alarm time or anything at all.
>
> Is it a known problem with this radio? If it's a component failure, is
> it likely to be the display unit itself, or the photo-sensor that
> controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
>
> --
>
> Chris
eventually. At least the Sonus 1 has voice support. I was unaware of the
death of the display till somebody said your pretty pink and blue display
has gone off. Gather some other combinations were used in these radios. If
its one of the original radios, it is almost obsolete now many many stations
do not work since the hardware does not support DAB plus.
I find it very annoying that there is no replacement for these radios for
blind users. It is obviously pretty trivial to add proper text to speech
these days as most TVs have it. Its just cheapskate manufacturers buying off
the shelf solutions and putting them into their own cases.
I have had my one fixed twice, but I'm told there are no more main boards
left, and Pure are not interested nowadays. Used to be a company called
Radio changing parts, but to be honest, its cheaper now to get a new radio.
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"Chris Hogg" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> The display on my above digital radio has all but disappeared. In a
> darkened room, with a small torch illuminating the light sensor, it's
> just possible to make out that something is happening on the screen,
> but it is unreadable. I have tried going through the factory reset
> sequence, apparently to no avail, but as I can't actually see what's
> happening, I'm at a loss to know what I've managed to do, if anything.
> Without the display the radio is almost useless as I can't see to
> select various stations, set the alarm time or anything at all.
>
> Is it a known problem with this radio? If it's a component failure, is
> it likely to be the display unit itself, or the photo-sensor that
> controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
>
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> Chris
Unknown
Nov 16, 2019, 3:28:52 AM11/16/19
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Chris Hogg expressed precisely :
Try snipping one of the wires to the sensor, if that doesn't make a
difference, try shorting out the sensor..
> If it's a component failure, is
> it likely to be the display unit itself, or the photo-sensor that
> controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
I assume this is an LED display?
> it likely to be the display unit itself, or the photo-sensor that
> controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
Try snipping one of the wires to the sensor, if that doesn't make a
difference, try shorting out the sensor..
Brian Gaff (Sofa)
Nov 16, 2019, 3:33:02 AM11/16/19
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That company name was radiofix.
However the whole radio is mounted on the front panel, only the amp and
voltage regulator was on a normal pcb in the normal way.
I'd have no idea if there is a way to change the illumination in the
display or whether it is a whole new display you need.
It is a common issue with those types of display though. I guess it might
just be a backlight but never ventured to that much detail.
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However the whole radio is mounted on the front panel, only the amp and
voltage regulator was on a normal pcb in the normal way.
I'd have no idea if there is a way to change the illumination in the
display or whether it is a whole new display you need.
It is a common issue with those types of display though. I guess it might
just be a backlight but never ventured to that much detail.
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GB
Nov 16, 2019, 6:22:49 AM11/16/19
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On 16/11/2019 08:12, Chris Hogg wrote:
> The display on my above digital radio has all but disappeared. In a
> darkened room, with a small torch illuminating the light sensor, it's
> just possible to make out that something is happening on the screen,
> but it is unreadable. I have tried going through the factory reset
> sequence, apparently to no avail, but as I can't actually see what's
> happening, I'm at a loss to know what I've managed to do, if anything.
> Without the display the radio is almost useless as I can't see to
> select various stations, set the alarm time or anything at all.
>
> Is it a known problem with this radio? If it's a component failure, is
> it likely to be the display unit itself, or the photo-sensor that
> controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
>
I found this review on ebay:
> The display on my above digital radio has all but disappeared. In a
> darkened room, with a small torch illuminating the light sensor, it's
> just possible to make out that something is happening on the screen,
> but it is unreadable. I have tried going through the factory reset
> sequence, apparently to no avail, but as I can't actually see what's
> happening, I'm at a loss to know what I've managed to do, if anything.
> Without the display the radio is almost useless as I can't see to
> select various stations, set the alarm time or anything at all.
>
> Is it a known problem with this radio? If it's a component failure, is
> it likely to be the display unit itself, or the photo-sensor that
> controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
>
by robhookham
19 Jul, 2019
Great sounding older radio- get the later model
These are nice sounding and looking radios.
There are two models of the Evoke 1S the older one with a square usb
socket (type B) and a later one with a mini type B.
The older one which has an Osram display is difficult to service as you
have to remove screening cans that are soldered to the board to even
change the display. The RIT display will work but you will loose 8
pixels on the right hand side. They are also prone to not powering up
except on a battery. This seems to be a AS3654 chip failure which is
very difficult to buy and replace.
The newer model uses the RIT OLED display available on Alibaba which is
easy to change without any soldering.
Since Rob seems to have a good idea what he's talking about, you might
try contacting him.
https://contact.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?FindAnswers&requested=robhookham
Brian Gaff (Bed)
Nov 16, 2019, 11:42:33 AM11/16/19
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I think its a fancy LCD with false colours to make it look pretty, or at
least mine was when I could last see it.
Brian
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least mine was when I could last see it.
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Scott
Nov 16, 2019, 1:25:09 PM11/16/19
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On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 08:12:48 +0000, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>The display on my above digital radio has all but disappeared. In a
>darkened room, with a small torch illuminating the light sensor, it's
>just possible to make out that something is happening on the screen,
>but it is unreadable. I have tried going through the factory reset
>sequence, apparently to no avail, but as I can't actually see what's
>happening, I'm at a loss to know what I've managed to do, if anything.
>Without the display the radio is almost useless as I can't see to
>select various stations, set the alarm time or anything at all.
>
>Is it a known problem with this radio? If it's a component failure, is
>The display on my above digital radio has all but disappeared. In a
>darkened room, with a small torch illuminating the light sensor, it's
>just possible to make out that something is happening on the screen,
>but it is unreadable. I have tried going through the factory reset
>sequence, apparently to no avail, but as I can't actually see what's
>happening, I'm at a loss to know what I've managed to do, if anything.
>Without the display the radio is almost useless as I can't see to
>select various stations, set the alarm time or anything at all.
>
>it likely to be the display unit itself, or the photo-sensor that
>controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
Is there a setting for bright or dim? I always have mine (a different
>controls the brightness, or something else, and is it DIY repairable?
PURE) set to dim but changing your setting to bright might solve your
immediate problem.
Broadback
Nov 17, 2019, 4:30:40 AM11/17/19
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On 16/11/2019 20:49, Chris Hogg wrote:
> The handbook offers several options for brightness adjustments, but
> they all require that you can read the display in the first place, in
> order to navigate through the menu to reach those options, which of
> course I can't do!
>
>
I have an Evode radio, when it goes tilt, as It seems here it may well
do what do you all suggest as a replacement please?
> they all require that you can read the display in the first place, in
> order to navigate through the menu to reach those options, which of
> course I can't do!
>
>
I have an Evode radio, when it goes tilt, as It seems here it may well
do what do you all suggest as a replacement please?
Andy Burns
Nov 17, 2019, 5:35:52 AM11/17/19
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Chris Hogg wrote:
> The handbook offers several options for brightness adjustments, but
> they all require that you can read the display in the first place, in
> order to navigate through the menu to reach those options, which of
> course I can't do!
Even if you shine a very bright torch on the display? (LCDs with broken
> The handbook offers several options for brightness adjustments, but
> they all require that you can read the display in the first place, in
> order to navigate through the menu to reach those options, which of
> course I can't do!
backlights can usually be seen that way)
I think my Pure Evoke3 has an EL display, which is now several
"half-lifes" old and next to useless.
Dave W
Nov 17, 2019, 12:24:46 PM11/17/19
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:35:45 +0000, Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
I have a Pure Chronos CD unit I took from my neighbour in exchange for
my Pure Evoke 1S, which sounded better (but mono), has more bass and
can be heard better by her deaf ears.
The 1S had a splendid bright green background LCD display with black
text, but the Chronos has a blue backlight shining through a negative
LCD display giving blue digits on a black background. (Later S1's had
green letters on a black background).
But the Chronos display was faint and I couldn't believe it was
intended to be that way. After investigating voltages, currents and
series resistance I came to the conclusion that the sole blue LED had
grown dim over time.
So I looked for the brightest white LED that RS sells and bought a
packet of 5, the minimum. I managed to cut the old LED out of its
pocket in the back-light light-guide and replace it with a white LED
filed down to fit.
I was disappointed that the display is still a bit dim, but at least
it's adequate now.
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wrote:
my Pure Evoke 1S, which sounded better (but mono), has more bass and
can be heard better by her deaf ears.
The 1S had a splendid bright green background LCD display with black
text, but the Chronos has a blue backlight shining through a negative
LCD display giving blue digits on a black background. (Later S1's had
green letters on a black background).
But the Chronos display was faint and I couldn't believe it was
intended to be that way. After investigating voltages, currents and
series resistance I came to the conclusion that the sole blue LED had
grown dim over time.
So I looked for the brightest white LED that RS sells and bought a
packet of 5, the minimum. I managed to cut the old LED out of its
pocket in the back-light light-guide and replace it with a white LED
filed down to fit.
I was disappointed that the display is still a bit dim, but at least
it's adequate now.
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Andy Burns
Nov 17, 2019, 12:28:56 PM11/17/19
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Dave W wrote:
> After investigating voltages, currents and
> series resistance I came to the conclusion that the sole blue LED had
> grown dim over time.
>
> So I looked for the brightest white LED that RS sells and bought a
> packet of 5, the minimum. I managed to cut the old LED out of its
> pocket in the back-light light-guide and replace it with a white LED
> filed down to fit.
>
> I was disappointed that the display is still a bit dim, but at least
> it's adequate now.
I did a similar replacement with white LEDs and epoxy on an iMon LCD
> After investigating voltages, currents and
> series resistance I came to the conclusion that the sole blue LED had
> grown dim over time.
>
> So I looked for the brightest white LED that RS sells and bought a
> packet of 5, the minimum. I managed to cut the old LED out of its
> pocket in the back-light light-guide and replace it with a white LED
> filed down to fit.
>
> I was disappointed that the display is still a bit dim, but at least
> it's adequate now.
display for my HTPC.
Annoyed
Jul 12, 2021, 9:01:31 AM7/12/21
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Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3, but I daren't try to search for any other stations....
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noth...@aolbin.com
Jul 12, 2021, 9:04:59 AM7/12/21
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On 12/07/2021 14:01, Annoyed wrote:
> Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3,
> but I daren't try to search for any other stations....
>
Why do you need any other stations? ;-)
> Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3,
> but I daren't try to search for any other stations....
>
John Bryan
Jul 12, 2021, 11:33:58 AM7/12/21
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Annoyed <9d0e0e5a455349ca...@example.com> wrote:
> Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3, but
> I daren't try to search for any other stations....
After a whole year does it really matter?
> Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3, but
> I daren't try to search for any other stations....
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Fredxx
Jul 12, 2021, 12:31:42 PM7/12/21
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On 12/07/2021 14:01, Annoyed wrote:
> Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3,
> but I daren't try to search for any other stations....
Before replying through a broken website read this first.
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3,
> but I daren't try to search for any other stations....
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub
Paul
Jul 12, 2021, 12:34:03 PM7/12/21
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Annoyed wrote:
> Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3,
> but I daren't try to search for any other stations....
>
Some kind of OLED display ?
> Anything new re this? Mine has just given up the ghost re screen! It's
> parked on Radio 4 and two small anti-clockwise turns give me Radio 3,
> but I daren't try to search for any other stations....
>
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2-36-inch-128x22-SSD1305-P21501_60762816844.html
Paul
Brian Gaff (Sofa)
Jul 13, 2021, 4:00:42 AM7/13/21
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Actually this and the Sonus 1 are well known for the brown out of their
displays, as this radio cannot do dab plus you are probably going to find
fewer and fewer radio stations to listen to anyway. You can of course simply
click through and press the control knob and listen to decide what it is,
welcome to the blind world of using dab.
Sadly although the Sonus 1 has audio tags, they are now completely out of
date and bear no resemblance to the actual station. It does have a spell
function of course but that is very difficult to understand. as it takes an
age to read the display that way. I did put a new tuner module in mine about
five years in but that display went dark brown as well and its a known
problem with the display apparently. I might suggest you look at a Roberts
portable with mains unit not only is it good sounding but can run from
batteries and charge them up. You can connect it to a stereo if you like.
Still not much use for us blindies but apparently the display seems more
robust.
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displays, as this radio cannot do dab plus you are probably going to find
fewer and fewer radio stations to listen to anyway. You can of course simply
click through and press the control knob and listen to decide what it is,
welcome to the blind world of using dab.
Sadly although the Sonus 1 has audio tags, they are now completely out of
date and bear no resemblance to the actual station. It does have a spell
function of course but that is very difficult to understand. as it takes an
age to read the display that way. I did put a new tuner module in mine about
five years in but that display went dark brown as well and its a known
problem with the display apparently. I might suggest you look at a Roberts
portable with mains unit not only is it good sounding but can run from
batteries and charge them up. You can connect it to a stereo if you like.
Still not much use for us blindies but apparently the display seems more
robust.
Brian
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Brian Gaff (Sofa)
Jul 13, 2021, 4:02:46 AM7/13/21
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Mine is a lot older and on its third display, but now I don't care since I
can't see it anyway!
As in my previous reply, it is a known issue and unfortunately since it
cannot do dab plus its really not going to be able to be fixed now.
Hardware has moved on.
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can't see it anyway!
As in my previous reply, it is a known issue and unfortunately since it
cannot do dab plus its really not going to be able to be fixed now.
Hardware has moved on.
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Jun 1, 2022, 1:02:12 PM6/1/22
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I had similar problems which led me to this hub. The display on my Evoke 1S is also badly faded but just about readable and as the radio is only ten years old but won't receive DAB+ I was going to scrap it. I found the Evoke website and found there was upgraded software for my model here:
http://upgrades.pure.com/uk/bricked-radio-recovery/evoke-1S-new?serial=403112HM000683&nid=93
I downloaded and installed it. The display is still faded but to my delight the radio now receives DAB+. Strangely, Evoke don't advertise this upgrade.
http://upgrades.pure.com/uk/bricked-radio-recovery/evoke-1S-new?serial=403112HM000683&nid=93
I downloaded and installed it. The display is still faded but to my delight the radio now receives DAB+. Strangely, Evoke don't advertise this upgrade.
BadWulf
Feb 5, 2023, 4:02:08 PM2/5/23
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Just bought a replacement lcd display from Alibaba for £17, lot of screws to get to but nothing astonishing if confident and careful. We will have to see if it works on arrival.
Brian Gaff
Feb 6, 2023, 9:05:55 AM2/6/23
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If that is the same as the one in the sonus1, they kind of go brown after a
while. Does not worry me, but might oorry those who can see. The thing that
gives me pause here, is the almost immediate redundancy of the DAB radio.
Most are now no longer able to be picked up by the pure, due to the coding
method used. I thought the display was part of the receiver pcb, and its the
chip that stops it getting DAB plus signals and decoding them. If your
replacement comes with a more up to date radio, then I'm all ears, as my one
is almost ready for the tip.
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while. Does not worry me, but might oorry those who can see. The thing that
gives me pause here, is the almost immediate redundancy of the DAB radio.
Most are now no longer able to be picked up by the pure, due to the coding
method used. I thought the display was part of the receiver pcb, and its the
chip that stops it getting DAB plus signals and decoding them. If your
replacement comes with a more up to date radio, then I'm all ears, as my one
is almost ready for the tip.
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>If that is the same as the one in the sonus1, they kind of go brown after a
>while. Does not worry me, but might oorry those who can see. The thing that
>gives me pause here, is the almost immediate redundancy of the DAB radio.
>Most are now no longer able to be picked up by the pure, due to the coding
>method used. I thought the display was part of the receiver pcb, and its the
>chip that stops it getting DAB plus signals and decoding them. If your
>replacement comes with a more up to date radio, then I'm all ears, as my one
>is almost ready for the tip.
> Brian
You worried me beause I have a Pure Evoke-1S and I didn't know it
won't pick up DAB+. So I looked on the back and see I've written "NOT
DAB+" in black marker. I tried tuning stations and can still receive
all BBC ones. Atlantis is one that I listen to on my more modern radio
on DAB+, but on the Pure, it shows in the display but is silent. The
other station I listen to is Angel Vintage, but that's not DAB+ and
works on the Pure.
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>If that is the same as the one in the sonus1, they kind of go brown after a
>while. Does not worry me, but might oorry those who can see. The thing that
>gives me pause here, is the almost immediate redundancy of the DAB radio.
>Most are now no longer able to be picked up by the pure, due to the coding
>method used. I thought the display was part of the receiver pcb, and its the
>chip that stops it getting DAB plus signals and decoding them. If your
>replacement comes with a more up to date radio, then I'm all ears, as my one
>is almost ready for the tip.
> Brian
won't pick up DAB+. So I looked on the back and see I've written "NOT
DAB+" in black marker. I tried tuning stations and can still receive
all BBC ones. Atlantis is one that I listen to on my more modern radio
on DAB+, but on the Pure, it shows in the display but is silent. The
other station I listen to is Angel Vintage, but that's not DAB+ and
works on the Pure.
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