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Mark BR

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Oct 18, 2012, 10:44:32 AM10/18/12
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I've got a metal manhole cover on my front path, and it is slippery when
wet.

I've looked at the antislip tape from toolstation at £4 - but does it stick
on such a surface or is there a better way of making it antislip?

Did wonder whether to paint it with gloss paint and sprinkle sand on the wet
paint!

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Mark BR


Nightjar

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Oct 18, 2012, 11:22:44 AM10/18/12
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On 18/10/2012 15:44, Mark BR wrote:
> I've got a metal manhole cover on my front path, and it is slippery when
> wet.
>
> I've looked at the antislip tape from toolstation at £4 - but does it stick
> on such a surface or is there a better way of making it antislip?

Whether a tape will stick will depend a lot on the quality of the
surface it is going to be stuck to. I would expect that a conformable
tape would work best on something like a manhole cover.

> Did wonder whether to paint it with gloss paint and sprinkle sand on the wet
> paint!

Probably better than nothing, but there are plenty of purpose made
non-slip paints available.

Colin Bignell

Mark BR

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Oct 18, 2012, 12:56:16 PM10/18/12
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"Nightjar" <c...@insert.my.surname.here.me.uk> wrote in message
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I looked at the non-slip paint, but it is about £28 for enough to cover some
200 sq m. I only want a cover 2' by 1' protected!

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Mark BR


Nightjar

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Oct 18, 2012, 1:32:44 PM10/18/12
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On 18/10/2012 17:56, Mark BR wrote:
> "Nightjar" <c...@insert.my.surname.here.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:apCdnTfTE6tRgx3N...@giganews.com...
>> On 18/10/2012 15:44, Mark BR wrote:
>>> I've got a metal manhole cover on my front path, and it is slippery when
>>> wet.
>>>
>>> I've looked at the antislip tape from toolstation at Ł4 - but does it
>>> stick
>>> on such a surface or is there a better way of making it antislip?
>>
>> Whether a tape will stick will depend a lot on the quality of the surface
>> it is going to be stuck to. I would expect that a conformable tape would
>> work best on something like a manhole cover.
>>
>>> Did wonder whether to paint it with gloss paint and sprinkle sand on the
>>> wet
>>> paint!
>>
>> Probably better than nothing, but there are plenty of purpose made
>> non-slip paints available.
>>
>
>
> I looked at the non-slip paint, but it is about Ł28 for enough to cover some
> 200 sq m. I only want a cover 2' by 1' protected!

I've seen it quite a lot cheaper than that and International Paints do a
pack of non-slip additive for about Ł5. Otherwise, if you want to make
your own, I would suggest using coarse carborundum powder rather than sand.

Colin Bignell

Bill Wright

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Oct 18, 2012, 3:01:24 PM10/18/12
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Mark BR wrote:

> I looked at the non-slip paint, but it is about £28 for enough to cover some
> 200 sq m. I only want a cover 2' by 1' protected!

Non slip paints are really meant for indoor use, and they aren't very
good when used outdoors, I've found. One option is to use ribbed rubber
flooring material. I have in the past used this outdoors successfully by
first painting the area with thick gloss and liberally spreading sand
on it, to give the underside of the rubber something to grip to. What
you have to do is cover the paint completely with a layer of sand (don't
just sprinkle it) then put a board over it and walk about on the board.
The wait til it's dry, then brush off the excess. Then hose it after a
day or two so there's absolutely no loose grains. The rubber mat can
have ordinary aluminium carpet edging strip around the perimeter. This
will grip the rubber firmly. Fasten the strip down with self tappers.

An alternative to the sandy paint is Evode impact adhesive, but an £8
tin will only barely do 2 sq ft.

Whatever way you fasten the rubber, warm it first because otherwise on a
hot day it will form ridges. It needs to be under v slight tension.

Bill

Andy Dingley

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Oct 18, 2012, 3:16:08 PM10/18/12
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On Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:49:16 UTC+1, Mark BR wrote:

> Did wonder whether to paint it with gloss paint and sprinkle sand on the wet
> paint!

Black tar paint (bitumen primer, cheap and very useful), then sprinkle dry sand through a coarse sieve or colander.

Nightjar

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Oct 18, 2012, 4:58:13 PM10/18/12
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On 18/10/2012 20:01, Bill Wright wrote:
> Mark BR wrote:
>
>> I looked at the non-slip paint, but it is about £28 for enough to
>> cover some 200 sq m. I only want a cover 2' by 1' protected!
>
> Non slip paints are really meant for indoor use, and they aren't very
> good when used outdoors,

I suspect that International Paints would disagree with you. They make
non-slip deck paints for ships working in Arctic conditions.

Colin Bignell

Gazz

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Oct 18, 2012, 4:59:11 PM10/18/12
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"Andy Dingley" <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
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When at school, we did the paving slabs around the outdoor pool with sand
and paint, we mixed the sand with some of the paint and applied it, then
once it was dry, put a top coat to seal in any bits of sand that had become
exposed and thus would probably get washed out over time.

It did the job just fine so i guess for the manhole it'll be ideal, and the
cheapest method,

polygonum

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:01:39 PM10/18/12
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But decks of ships in the Arctic tend not to accumulate algae growing on
retained organic and other material - which is what can happen in
ordinary gardens.

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Rod

Nightjar

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:25:54 PM10/18/12
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No, they tend to accumulate frozen sea spray.

Colin Bignell

Owain

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:31:53 PM10/18/12
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On Oct 18, 10:01 pm, polygonum wrote:
> Nightjar wrote:
> > I suspect that International Paints would disagree with you. They make
> > non-slip deck paints for ships working in Arctic conditions.
> But decks of ships in the Arctic tend not to accumulate algae growing on
> retained organic and other material - which is what can happen in
> ordinary gardens.

And tend not to buy their paint in B&Q or the local decorator centre.

Owain

John Williamson

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:32:41 PM10/18/12
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You've never seen a canal boat deck, then. They use the same
International Paints anti-slip products. They're expensive, but good.
They need hosing off fairly regularly, but that's all, and I'd expect to
do the same to manhole covers in a path.

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John.

polygonum

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Oct 18, 2012, 5:38:06 PM10/18/12
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It was exactly that which prompted my post! Saw someone painting afresh
with an ordinary paint, someone else with a newly non-slip painted deck
area and that looked fine, and a few which were very algae-covered and
at least looked slippery. Maybe it was because they were moored under
trees? And no-one had done the hosing off in a while.

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Rod

Mark BR

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Oct 19, 2012, 4:25:16 AM10/19/12
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"Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Mark BR wrote:
>
>> I looked at the non-slip paint, but it is about £28 for enough to cover
>> some 200 sq m. I only want a cover 2' by 1' protected!
>

--SNIP--
>
> An alternative to the sandy paint is Evode impact adhesive, but an £8 tin
> will only barely do 2 sq ft.
>
> Whatever way you fasten the rubber, warm it first because otherwise on a
> hot day it will form ridges. It needs to be under v slight tension.
>

Adhesive, that made me think, always a bad idea.

What would sand and PVA do? Got some in the garage so can always experiment
with that.

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Mark BR


Wesley

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Oct 19, 2012, 3:28:02 PM10/19/12
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"Mark BR" <bri...@x-privat.org> wrote in message
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I was just going to suggest that. Its cheap and easily renewable. Paint on
the PVA and sprinkle with sand before it dries.


larry....@gmail.com

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Jan 6, 2015, 11:34:04 AM1/6/15
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On Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:49:16 UTC+1, Mark BR wrote:
Hello,

One option is to look at the anti slip slip at www.heskins.com, they are a company specialising in anti slip coatings, they have done work on anti slip manhole covers.

Regards,

L

Lobster

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Jan 6, 2015, 1:12:41 PM1/6/15
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On 06 Jan 2015, larry....@gmail.com grunted:

> On Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:49:16 UTC+1, Mark BR wrote:
>> I've got a metal manhole cover on my front path, and it is slippery
>> when wet.

One would hope that Mark may have solved his problem within the past 3
years

> One option is to look at the anti slip slip at www.heskins.com, they
> are a company specialising in anti slip coatings, they have done work
> on anti slip manhole covers.

Another, preferable option is for you to think up better ways of
flogging your tat than posting to this newsgroup, YOU SPAMMING TWAT!

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-longton/20/802/657

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David

Adrian

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Jan 6, 2015, 1:43:06 PM1/6/15
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 18:12:38 +0000, Lobster wrote:

> On 06 Jan 2015, larry....@gmail.com grunted:
>> One option is to look at the anti slip slip at www.heskins.com, they
>> are a company specialising in anti slip coatings, they have done work
>> on anti slip manhole covers.

> Another, preferable option is for you to think up better ways of
> flogging your tat than posting to this newsgroup, YOU SPAMMING TWAT!
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-longton/20/802/657

Some people really do defy belief, don't they?

Still, since Lawrence David Longton 100% owns the company, there's no
point in complaining to his boss. They do say that family firms tend to
go one way or the other in the second generation.

Vir Campestris

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Jan 6, 2015, 4:19:54 PM1/6/15
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On 06/01/2015 18:43, Adrian wrote:
> Still, since Lawrence David Longton 100% owns the company, there's no
> point in complaining to his boss. They do say that family firms tend to
> go one way or the other in the second generation.

Must be getting desperate if covering one manhole cover is worth the effort.

Andy
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