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Graham Macfarlane

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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Can anyone tell me the approximate cost of Amtico flooring? Also is it
available for DIY laying, and if not how much would a professional charge to
lay it?

Are there alternative products which are significantly cheaper and (almost)
as good?

Many thanks,
Graham

Jof

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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Graham Macfarlane <graham.m...@liffe.com> wrote in article
<75nn88$sl0$1...@gatekeeper.liffe.com>...

> Can anyone tell me the approximate cost of Amtico flooring? Also is it
> available for DIY laying, and if not how much would a professional charge
to
> lay it?
>
We looked at it last year & decided it was way tooo much!!

£50+ per square metre for floring.

If you want to DIY it, you have to use their special glue / screed etc

The quoted us £5-6K to have it fitted in a 70's open plan 3 bed semi (250
sq ft approx)

I got cheap carpet instead, good job 'cus now we've had a sprog, god only
knows whats going to hapen to it & I wont feel so bad when paying £300 to
replace it when it wears out/we get bored with it


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Paul Smith

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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"Graham Macfarlane" <graham.m...@liffe.com> wrote:

>Can anyone tell me the approximate cost of Amtico flooring? Also is it
>available for DIY laying, and if not how much would a professional charge to
>lay it?
>

>Are there alternative products which are significantly cheaper and (almost)
>as good?
>
>Many thanks,
>Graham
>
>

Graham,
I'm currently awaiting delivery/fitting of some Karndean DaVinci - about £34 /
Sq m as opposed to (as I understand ~ £80 / Sq m)

I will post my thoughts after it is down.

I looked at several alternatives, including Pergo wooden laminate flooring,
Formica, Wickes, and the like. I chose the Karndean because it has the same
supposed qualities as the Amtico but at a more realistic price.

Karndean DaVinci is their heavy duty contract version, which has bevelled edges
to the planks, which in my opinion makes for an even better effect than just a
flat plank.


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Peter Parry

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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On Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:02:31 -0000, "Graham Macfarlane"
<graham.m...@liffe.com> wrote:


>Are there alternative products which are significantly cheaper and (almost)
>as good?

Marley believe it or not - especially their commercial ranges.

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Charles (Joe) Stahelin

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Dec 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/23/98
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In article <75nn88$sl0$1...@gatekeeper.liffe.com>, Graham Macfarlane
<graham.m...@liffe.com> writes

>Can anyone tell me the approximate cost of Amtico flooring? Also is it
>available for DIY laying, and if not how much would a professional charge to
>lay it?
---------------
It is not clear whether you refer to wood or to stuff supplied in a
roll. I suggest you ask Amtico for a priced catalogue and a leaflet
about laying. I am sure they would indicate a rough guide cost of
laying on a square metre/yard basis if asked.

The last time I looked Amtico had quite a variety of designs: it is
worth remembering that smooth finishes are much easier to maintain that
sculptured finishes.
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Charles (Joe) Stahelin,
Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK.

Simon Crabb

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Dec 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/23/98
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"Charles (Joe) Stahelin" wrote:

> It is not clear whether you refer to wood or to stuff supplied in a
> roll. I suggest you ask Amtico for a priced catalogue and a leaflet
> about laying. I am sure they would indicate a rough guide cost of
> laying on a square metre/yard basis if asked.

I second this; I received the said catalogue this morning, and was surprised to
see some more modern industrial/minimalist elements featured in there, as well as
more traditional types.

I have not had a good look at it yet, but I was initially confused whether the
wood flooring was wood or plastic to look like wood - I shall have a better look.

Simon.


Noelle Obcarskas

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Dec 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/27/98
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In article <75nn88$sl0$1...@gatekeeper.liffe.com>, Graham Macfarlane
<graham.m...@liffe.com> writes
>Can anyone tell me the approximate cost of Amtico flooring? Also is it
>available for DIY laying, and if not how much would a professional charge to
>lay it?
>
>Are there alternative products which are significantly cheaper and (almost)
>as good?
>
>Many thanks,
>Graham
>
>
Real Wood Flooring is possible installed or materials only. Web page
details below.
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woodfl...@unicorn-connection.co.uk
tel: +44 (0118) 940 4521
fax: +44 (0118) 940 4509
http://www.unicorn-connection.co.uk/woodflooring


Paul Smith

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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s...@compuserve.comz (Paul Smith) wrote:

>"Graham Macfarlane" <graham.m...@liffe.com> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me the approximate cost of Amtico flooring? Also is it
>>available for DIY laying, and if not how much would a professional charge to
>>lay it?
>>
>>Are there alternative products which are significantly cheaper and (almost)
>>as good?
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>Graham
>>
>>
>

>Graham,
> I'm currently awaiting delivery/fitting of some Karndean DaVinci - about £34 /
>Sq m as opposed to (as I understand ~ £80 / Sq m)
>
>I will post my thoughts after it is down.
>
>I looked at several alternatives, including Pergo wooden laminate flooring,
>Formica, Wickes, and the like. I chose the Karndean because it has the same
>supposed qualities as the Amtico but at a more realistic price.
>
>Karndean DaVinci is their heavy duty contract version, which has bevelled edges
>to the planks, which in my opinion makes for an even better effect than just a
>flat plank.
>
>
>--
>Paul Smith
>Technical Manager, SDR Systems Ltd
>Please change Compuserve.comz to Compuserve.com to respond via Email

Graham,
the finished product looks fantastic - what more can I say. I am very pleased
with my choice.

Graham Macfarlane

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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Paul,

thanks for the update

Graham

Graham Macfarlane

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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Paul,

Thanks for the update, glad you arre pleased with the result.

Graham

David Parkin

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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We had an amtico floor professionally laid in our kitchen 3 yrs ago.
From memory it cost £850 for approx 12 sq,m.
The custom pattern looks good but with all the joints (we have insets and
tramlines) it is a bitch to keep clean.
Needs stripping an re-sealing regularly, which is an afternoon's work.
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Charles (Joe) Stahelin

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Jan 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/15/99
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In article <eiUuPbBQ#GA....@upnetnews02.moswest.msn.net>, David Parkin
<david...@email.msn.com> writes

>We had an amtico floor professionally laid in our kitchen 3 yrs ago.
>From memory it cost £850 for approx 12 sq,m.
>The custom pattern looks good but with all the joints (we have insets and
>tramlines) it is a bitch to keep clean.
>Needs stripping an re-sealing regularly, which is an afternoon's work.
-------------
Are you sure your cleaning methods are right ? It sounds as if it is
figured as against being smooth. Have you tried removing surface dirt
with water and just a hint of Fairy Liquid which is then picked up by
Aqua-Vac or some similar wet pick-up machine ? This will probably be
much better than using a hand-brush or a pad under a rotary machine.
Any scrubbing or polishing will best be done with suitable brushes under
a rotary machine.

When the floor has been cleaned and is as new" three very thin coats of
buffable (as against 'dry-bright') water-based floor emulsion should be
applied, allowing coats to dry thoroughly before the second and third
coats are applied. This should last for a week or more with daily
cleaning with a dry vacuum and water-mopping or spray-cleaning with a
rotary brush in badly marked areas. Spray cleaning is cleaning with a
dry rotary brush whilst applying *very* light sprays of water+minimal
drop of Fairy Liquid, or special spray cleaner to areas which are
difficult. Best method of spraying is by trigger-bottle. The floor
should not be wetted as that will soften the polish and take up
unnecessary time polishing it out until dry.

Before applying polish clean the floor with rotary brush, pick up all
the dust with vacuum then apply however many *thin* coats of polish you
consider needed. Do not strip it unless the aforementioned does not
work for you - stripping just lifts polish which then has to be
replaced at unnecessary cost and effort.

I will send you some more elaborate notes by e-mail.

Paul Smith

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Jan 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/15/99
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"David Parkin" <david...@email.msn.com> wrote:

>We had an amtico floor professionally laid in our kitchen 3 yrs ago.
>From memory it cost £850 for approx 12 sq,m.
>The custom pattern looks good but with all the joints (we have insets and
>tramlines) it is a bitch to keep clean.
>Needs stripping an re-sealing regularly, which is an afternoon's work.

<snip>


Yes, the Karndean flooring requires similar work - there's a stripper to remove
excess glue after installation or old polish layers, then there's a "Dim Glow"
fluid you apply and let dry, to give it a sheen and a protective coat, and
finally a regular cleaning fluid to use.

The stripping of the old stuff (or in my case the excess glue) certainly does
take a long time...

Charles (Joe) Stahelin

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Jan 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/17/99
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In article <369f0b9d...@news.compuserve.com>, Paul Smith
<s...@compuserve.comz> writes

>The stripping of the old stuff (or in my case the excess glue) certainly does
>take a long time...
-----
Obviously unwanted stuff such as surplus glue must be cleaned off.
Once you start out with a clean floor stripping is absolutely
unnecessary unless the cleaning has not been done correctly or there has
been some sort of a disaster. I regret that the 'figure' just
complicates what is a relatively simple task. Even my daughter-in-law,
who was very strongly advised against it but persisted in having
imitation bricks on her kitchen floor, gets near to admitting it was the
wrong thing to do.

Think about it. You buy stripping agent to take the polish you bought
off the floor: as soon as you get it off, you spend more money
replacing it. The effort and inconvenience comes as an extra.

If you need advice and demonstration avoid the flooring sellers, go
looking for a school or hospital which has really well-kept floors (as
smooth as a baby's bottom to the touch of a gliding finger from about 18
inches from the floor edge all the way up to the skirting). Having
found such a floor talk to the person who does the cleaning or who
teaches the cleaners.

Charles (Joe) Stahelin

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Jan 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/17/99
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In article <77sfn5$6...@axalotl.demon.co.uk>, Hugh Davies
<hu...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>>If you need advice and demonstration avoid the flooring sellers, go
>>looking for a school or hospital which has really well-kept floors (as
>>smooth as a baby's bottom to the touch of a gliding finger from about 18
>>inches from the floor edge all the way up to the skirting).
>
>Try not to get arrested as you do the test ... ("Ere, Sid, there's some
>loon in reception stroking the floor.")

I think you are getting mixed up between skirts and skirting !

dscar...@gmail.com

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Sep 8, 2016, 11:33:34 AM9/8/16
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have you tried https://www.styleflooring.com/amtico-flooring.html they have an online amtico fitting price form.

Andy Burns

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Sep 8, 2016, 12:22:15 PM9/8/16
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Tim+

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Sep 8, 2016, 1:37:16 PM9/8/16
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<dscar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> have you tried https://www.spam.com/amtico-flooring.html they have an
> online amtico fitting price form.
>

We had Amtico flooring once. Delaminated horribly and looked ghastly after
a few years.

Tim

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Tim+

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Sep 8, 2016, 2:49:36 PM9/8/16
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Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <nqs7k8$u61$1...@dont-email.me>, Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> <dscar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> have you tried https://www.spam.com/amtico-flooring.html they have an
>>> online amtico fitting price form.
>>>
>>
>> We had Amtico flooring once. Delaminated horribly and looked ghastly after
>> a few years.
>
> Who installed it?
>

Kitchen fitters. Can't see how installation would affect surface
delamination though.

Tim+

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Sep 8, 2016, 3:56:00 PM9/8/16
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Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <nqsbrs$eie$1...@dont-email.me>, Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> In article <nqs7k8$u61$1...@dont-email.me>, Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <dscar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> have you tried https://www.spam.com/amtico-flooring.html they have an
>>>>> online amtico fitting price form.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We had Amtico flooring once. Delaminated horribly and looked ghastly after
>>>> a few years.
>>>
>>> Who installed it?
>>
>> Kitchen fitters. Can't see how installation would affect surface
>> delamination though.
>
> We've got two lots installed - by Amtico-trained people in both cases.
> Sure your lot knew what they were doing? Round here, everyone swears by
> (not *at*) Amtico.
>

Yeah, but I repeat my question, how do differences in installation affect
delamination of the tiles? I don't mean tiles lifting, I mean the tile
substrate itself delaminating.

Tim+

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Sep 8, 2016, 4:45:35 PM9/8/16
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Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <nqsfod$tdd$1...@dont-email.me>, Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> In article <nqsbrs$eie$1...@dont-email.me>, Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>>> In article <nqs7k8$u61$1...@dont-email.me>, Tim+ <tim.d...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <dscar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> have you tried https://www.spam.com/amtico-flooring.html they have an
>>>>>>> online amtico fitting price form.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had Amtico flooring once. Delaminated horribly and looked ghastly after
>>>>>> a few years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who installed it?
>>>>
>>>> Kitchen fitters. Can't see how installation would affect surface
>>>> delamination though.
>>>
>>> We've got two lots installed - by Amtico-trained people in both cases.
>>> Sure your lot knew what they were doing? Round here, everyone swears by
>>> (not *at*) Amtico.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, but I repeat my question, how do differences in installation affect
>> delamination of the tiles? I don't mean tiles lifting, I mean the tile
>> substrate itself delaminating.
>
> Search me. If I get a chance, I'll ask bods around here if they've
> heard of that. What did your kitchen fitters say?
>

This was year ago. House, kitchen and floor long gone

Tim


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dscar...@gmail.com

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Sep 12, 2016, 11:28:53 AM9/12/16
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Its not really intended as spam. It will really help those looking for Amtico installation costs. Yes its my company good Observation. Did you think I was going to hide behind a fake email!

dscar...@gmail.com

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Sep 12, 2016, 11:34:33 AM9/12/16
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Amtico tiles don't de laminate they are made up differently to karndean or polyflor. They are covered with a 20 year warranty and will pay for full replacements if there are faults.

Bob Eager

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Sep 12, 2016, 11:51:54 AM9/12/16
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But you obscured the fact that it was your company. You said 'they'
rather than 'I', and your email address isn't x...@styleflooring.com.

Why not be upfront about it? Being coy will lose you customers.

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rick

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Sep 12, 2016, 12:10:21 PM9/12/16
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Adverting by companies is banned from UK.d-i-y I quote from the charter
"COMMERCIAL ADVERTISING IS FORBIDDEN ON UK.D-I-Y. "

and faked questions and anonymous posting is not going to be seen as
trustworthy

dscar...@gmail.com

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Sep 12, 2016, 12:42:19 PM9/12/16
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Good point😊

GB

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Sep 13, 2016, 4:07:55 AM9/13/16
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On 12-Sep-16 5:40 PM, dscar...@gmail.com wrote:
> Good point😊
>

Hi

I tried out your online quotation system. (It worked out at around
£100/sqm, if anyone's interested.) It's a very detailed system, but I
wonder if it has a flaw? The point is that you ask for the floor area,
but not the perimeter. So, you'll quote the same for 4x5m as for 20x1m.
Most of the cutting is done at the perimeter, and that's usually the
most work. I appreciate that Amtico materials are expensive, but still
the labour is important too.

How does that work? Just interested. Thanks



GB

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Sep 13, 2016, 4:11:06 AM9/13/16
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On 12-Sep-16 4:34 PM, dscar...@gmail.com wrote:
> Amtico tiles don't de laminate they are made up differently to karndean or polyflor. They are covered with a 20 year warranty and will pay for full replacements if there are faults.
>

You think that Tim was told that he was getting Amtico, but wasn't?
That's actually a circular argument.

GB

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Sep 13, 2016, 7:15:42 AM9/13/16
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On 13-Sep-16 10:08 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <nr8cak$d8l$2...@dont-email.me>, GB <NOTso...@microsoft.com>
> I wasn't *told* I was getting Amtico. It's what I ordered from the
> flooring company.
>

Quite! That's my point.

I suppose that they might have defrauded you and put some inferior
product down instead. Did it all arrive sealed up in Amtico packaging?


dscar...@gmail.com

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Sep 14, 2016, 11:16:16 AM9/14/16
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The form adds an extra charge based on the area name ie wc plus 60 or hall plus's 80 etc.
I need to add an adjustment based on overall labour m2 charge.
If over 10m2 then m2 labour price is whatever
If over 20m2 then labour price starts to decrease etc etc.


dscar...@gmail.com

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Sep 14, 2016, 11:47:21 AM9/14/16
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here's another handy drawing tool to get your m2's ...still in working progress

https://www.styleflooring.com/floor-planner.html

GB

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Sep 14, 2016, 12:03:21 PM9/14/16
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On 14-Sep-16 4:16 PM, dscar...@gmail.com wrote:
> The form adds an extra charge based on the area name ie wc plus 60 or hall plus's 80 etc.

That's a fairly rough and ready adjustment, but you need to keep these
things fairly robust, obviously.

GB

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Sep 14, 2016, 12:05:58 PM9/14/16
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On 14-Sep-16 4:47 PM, dscar...@gmail.com wrote:
> here's another handy drawing tool to get your m2's ...still in working progress
>
> https://www.styleflooring.com/floor-planner.html
>

I like that. It did a nice triangular area. :)


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