RIP The Medway Handyman

[ARW]

David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.

He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
daughters Hayley and Beatrix.



Goodbye my friend.


--
Adam

[AJH]

A long time since I saw him posting here, at least it was a peaceful end.

[The Nomad]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:57:20 +0100, ARW <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

Bugger!

RIP!

:-(

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[Andy Burns]

AJH wrote:

> ARW wrote:
>
>> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.

>> Goodbye my friend.
>
> A long time since I saw him posting here, at least it was a peaceful end.

Yes, he was helpful while he was here, I think the brexit posts put him
off, which is a bit odd as he was pro-UKIP sometime earlier.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

He was not a friend to a council estate twat such as yourself.
Are you still trying to shag that very much used shag bag called Louise?
She tells me that you are a council estate peasant with a little dick and
that is all you ever will be.

[Owain Lastname]

I'm trying to think of a comment involving funerals, wireless doorbells and reversing cars, which isn't disrespectful.

Owain

[Alan]

That's sad, he wasnt 'old' was he.

[Tim Lamb]

In message <shg6a0$f8f$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes

Interesting poster.

How old? He didn't seem geriatric.

I've said before we need a system for such announcements but have no
idea how to make it work. My family have no knowledge of uk.d-i-y! I
suppose instructions could be packaged with the will..
>
>

--
Tim Lamb

[newshound]

On 10/09/2021 18:57, ARW wrote:

How sad. One of the posters that I would always look out for and read.
He posted good stuff.

[Andy Burns]

Tim Lamb wrote:

> Interesting poster.
> How old? He didn't seem geriatric.

70 I think.

[jkn]

Thanks for letting us know Adam, I enjoyed his posts here, most of the
time anyway. Best Regards to his family and friends

J^n

[Peter Burke]

ARW <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:shg6a0$f8f$1@dont-
email.me:

Thank you Adam, I am sorry to hear that.

I will remember him fondly as someone who was happy to share his knowledge
unselfishly on subjects he had experience of.

His enquiries related to his handyman business were targeted at giving his
customers the best possible service and I admired that.

He mentioned his family with fondness on multiple occasions and I hope you
are able feed back to them that he was well thought of here. Having known
you here for some time, perhaps under a different skin, I think that is
something that you will do.

Best, PB

[Robin]

On 10/09/2021 18:57, ARW wrote:

Sad news. He always struck me as (in the vernacular of his roots) a
diamond geezer.



--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

[John Rumm]

On 10/09/2021 18:57, ARW wrote:

> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.

Very sad and unexpected...

He always gave generously of his time and posted much that generated
lots of interest and discussion. Even his foray into crime fiction
writing was a surprisingly good read for a first book!

The few times I spoke to him he always struck me as one of the good guys.

> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.

Must be especially hard on them having lost their mum not that long ago,
he always posted with such pride in his girls.

> Goodbye my friend.

Please pass on my condolences when you get the chance.


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[Tim+]

Far too young then! How sad for his children.

Tim

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[ARW]

When Covid started and Terry Casey had just passed away I made
arrangements so that friends of mine that have no contact with my family
(or the newsgroup) could be notified.

A bit morbid but if I died tomorrow Lou would only have to make one
phone call or text and it would be sorted.

--

Adam

[Andy Burns]

ARW wrote:

> When Covid started and Terry Casey had just passed away I made
> arrangements so that friends of mine that have no contact with my family
> (or the newsgroup) could be notified.
>
> A bit morbid but if I died tomorrow Lou would only have to make one
> phone call or text and it would be sorted.

That seems a long time ago now ... multiple copies still safe BTW

[Andy Burns]

Andy Burns wrote:

> That seems a long time ago now ...

Has something changed in thunderbird 91.1.x?

That's twice it's "tricked" me into a combined email and newsgroup reply
both times I only noticed when it stuck sending ... anyone else?

[ARW]

It needs updating and swapping TMH for Rebecca

--

Adam

[Owain Lastname]

On Friday, 10 September 2021 at 20:31:39 UTC+1, Alan wrote:
> That's sad, he wasnt 'old' was he.

"our age" is the all-too-frequent thought about that now.

Owain

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Sad to here, he was about on here a long time in the past, but probably went
to forums or local whatsapp later on. 70 should be no age these days. Its
the age I am and of corse I could wake up dead tomorrow, but I know a lot of
folk who are healthy at over 90 years old so one never can tell.
Brian

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[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Yes and talking of trolls there seem to be a good few of them being their
usual silly selves in this thread.

Brian

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <shg6a0$f8f$1...@dont-email.me>,

How very sad. Can't have been that old, either. Please pass on my
condolences to his family.

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[Chris Bacon]

On 11/09/2021 09:26, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Sad to here, he was about on here a long time in the past

Yes, I remember when he was just dithering about whether or not to set
up his company. Long time passing.

[Unknown]

Dave Plowman (News) has brought this to us :

> How very sad. Can't have been that old, either. Please pass on my
> condolences to his family.
>
>

..and mine too.

[JNugent]

On 10/09/2021 06:57 pm, ARW wrote:

> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
> Goodbye my friend.

R.I.P. Mr Lang.

I can't say we agreed on everything and we did have the occasional
disagreement, but I found him consistently good-humoured and often very
amusing. Condolences to the family.

[JNugent]

I have had that trouble in the past. It was cured by deleting the
"reply" button and leaving only the "follow up" option.

[Peter Johnson]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:57:20 +0100, ARW

<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
>He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
>daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
>
>
>Goodbye my friend.

Thanks Adam. Always enjoyed his contribtions. Remember him seeking
advice for tools to carry in his van when he set up his handyman
business, and telling how his website had been copied, with very
little modification, by someone in the US.

[Pamela]

I guess he was relatively young if he was still working.

[Pamela]

On 18:57 10 Sep 2021, ARW said:
>
> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
>
> Goodbye my friend.

Sorry to hear this. Condolences to all concerned.

[RJH]

On 10 Sep 2021 at 18:57:20 BST, "ARW" <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
>
>
> Goodbye my friend.

Sad news, I appreciated his contributions here. Condolences to family and
friends.
--
Cheers, Rob

[swldx...@gmail.com]

Remember he hated cyclists and tried to get me the sack from BP by attending the 2012 AGM with "Judith" and "Mr Benn" and handing over a letter filled with lies about me. RIP.

[JNugent]

That's a *lie*.

You prefer it to the truth because the truth embarrasses you (as well it
should).

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

The letter contained no lies. You were posting from work in your employers
time and taking the piss.
You should have been sacked on the spot for gross misconduct.
And if you really believe that Judith and Mr Benn actually attended that
meeting you are more stupid than I thought.
As Judith said, "That was the icing on the cake".

[Alan]

On Sat, 11 Sep 2021 18:10:33 +0100, JNugent wrote:


>> Remember he hated cyclists and tried to get me the sack from BP by
>> attending the 2012 AGM with "Judith" and "Mr Benn" and handing over a
>> letter filled with lies about me. RIP.
>
> That's a *lie*.

What was the truth?

[swldx...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 6:18:35 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

> >
> > Remember he hated cyclists and tried to get me the sack from BP by
> > attending the 2012 AGM with "Judith" and "Mr Benn" and handing over a
> > letter filled with lies about me. RIP.
> The letter contained no lies. You were posting from work in your employers
> time and taking the piss.

We were allowed to use the Internet at work. It had nothing to do with Mr Lang or anyone else what I did at work. He was just a trouble causer, like Judith and Nuxx Bar were. Sad for his poor family though.

[Andy Burns]

JNugent wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Has something changed in thunderbird 91.1.x?
>> That's twice it's "tricked" me into a combined email and newsgroup
>> reply
>

> I have had that trouble in the past. It was cured by deleting the
> "reply" button and leaving only the "follow up" option.

I'm aware of that, I go further the hiding one icon, I hide the entire
message-pane toolbar. So I only have the main toolbar at the top, which
doesn't have the "smart reply" button, just "reply" and "reply-all".

Reply on the two toolbars behaves differently, and I was wondering if
they've some how altered how it behaves?

[GB]

On 10/09/2021 18:57, ARW wrote:

> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
>
>
> Goodbye my friend.
>
>

I'm so sorry to hear that. My condolences to you, his friend, and to his
family.

It may be some little comfort to the family to hear that so many people
who have never met David, but only read his posts on this NG, have
expressed their sadness at his passing.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

He fell empty head first straight into the obvious trap.
Pillock.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

Judith, Dave and Mr Benn did not attend that meeting.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

Of course you were allowed to use the Internet at work. But not in company
time for your own perverted entertainment. You were found out and should
have been sacked. Wankers are sacked and you are a wanker.
A "trouble causer". Can you tell us how Dave, Judith and Nxx Bar caused you
"trouble"? Don't be shy ya little wanker. Tell us all about it.

[www.GymRatZ.co.uk]

On 10/09/2021 18:57, ARW wrote:

> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
>
>
> Goodbye my friend.

Thanks Adam.
I seem to remember TMH did quite a bit of decking.
Was it he who registered for VAT, bought his van, got the VAT back then
de-registered? I like that style of thinking.

Wasn't (isn't) one of his daughters a paramedic?

[misterroy]

Pass along my condolences too.

[Owain Lastname]

On Saturday, 11 September 2021 at 21:20:17 UTC+1, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
> I seem to remember TMH did quite a bit of decking.

IIRC it was "Desmond" did the decking.

> Wasn't (isn't) one of his daughters a paramedic?

Yes, we helped to write THM's speech for the wedding :)

Owain

[swldx...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 9:20:17 PM UTC+1, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

> I seem to remember TMH did quite a bit of decking.

This was an example of his handiwork! Loose tooth!

http://www.medwaydecking.co.uk/images/decking_job_3_photo_1.jpg

[Mathew Newton]

On Friday, 10 September 2021 at 18:57:23 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
>
>
> Goodbye my friend.

Oh how sad. Thank you for letting us know Adam.

I'd never met him, but I've read hundreds of his posts over the years and so felt like I knew at least a part of him.

RIP TMH.

[JNugent]

The truth is that Mason boasted that he was posting on usenet in his
employer's time and on his employer's equipment.

TMH and another poster or two pranked Mason by pretending to buy shares
in BP (the employer) and announcing their intention to travel to London
in order to raise the issue of Mason's antics at the company's AGM.

It was pure kiddology. No shares were bought and no-one went anywhere
near London, let alone the BP AGM.

But Mason made up a story about an employee of the firm having spoken to
TMH et al at the AGM (an impressive feat, considering they weren't
there). His own conscience was running riot.

[JNugent]

I'm fairly sure that the reply button is the one to dispense with. I
only have the follow-up button visible and don't get that problem 9any
more).

[JNugent]

Indeed she was and may still be.

[JNugent]

You are sick, lad.

When are you going to regale the assembled company with a few boasts
about the massive size of your... er... pension pot?

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

Is the correct answer.
Mason is a proven liar and should hang his head in shame. But maybe a rope
around his neck would be a better idea? There yer go Mason, food for
thought.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

Not forgetting the "book" that he says he wrote. The book about his failed
suicide attempt. He could not even kill himself, what a plonker.
Better luck next time Simon.

[ARW]

She still is - but she had to shield during Covid.

--
Adam

[Andy Burns]

JNugent wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Reply on the two toolbars behaves differently, and I was wondering if
>> they've some how altered how it behaves?
>
> I'm fairly sure that the reply button is the one to dispense with.

From which toolbar? If I was getting rid of one from the 'bottom'
toolbar probably yes, but I jut get rid of that whole toolbar, and the
'top' reply button works like every other email program.

[www.GymRatZ.co.uk]

Ah that's it the "decking micro site".
:)

[Peter Keller]

On 12/09/21 01:24, JNugent wrote:

> On 10/09/2021 06:57 pm, ARW wrote:
>
>> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>>
>> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
>> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>>
>> Goodbye my friend.
>

> R.I.P. Mr Lang.
>
> I can't say we agreed on everything and we did have the occasional
> disagreement, but I found him consistently good-humoured and often very
> amusing. Condolences to the family.

+1

Sad to hear.
Condolences to the family.

[JNugent]

Fair enough.

I thought you meant that when you pressed the Reply button, Thunderbird
was either:

(a) simply trying to reply to a usenet message as an email to the PP, or

(b) trying to replay as an email to the PP AND as a usenet post.

[Andy Burns]

JNugent wrote:

> I thought you meant that when you pressed the Reply button, Thunderbird
> was either:
>
> (a) simply trying to reply to a usenet message as an email to the PP, or
>
> (b) trying to replay as an email to the PP AND as a usenet post.

It was trying to do (b)

As I said, I don't /think/ I clicked the wrong button, I would have
spotted this behaviour if TB had been doing it before because it
succeeds in the usenet post, and then hangs forever trying to send the
email from my usenet account.

[JNugent]

Well, get rid of the "Reply" button and allow yourself use of only the
"Followup" button and the problem is solved.

[GB]

Have you tried the add-in Message Header Toolbar Customize?

[Andy Burns]

JNugent wrote:

> Well, get rid of the "Reply" button and allow yourself use of only the
> "Followup" button and the problem is solved.

Originally I only asked if anyone else had noticed a change in the
latest version.

I've used thunderbird since before it was called thunderbird, I've never
had this issue in all that time, it might be fat fingers, but to have it
occur twice in a few days after not doing it for 15+ years made me
suspicious, that's all.

I do remember hearing of people apologising for sending email replies
when they didn't intend to, I couldn't understand their explanation at
the time, but eventually realised it happened to them and never to me
because they were using the "other" reply button on the toolbar I had
deliberately hidden (for other reasons).

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 12/09/2021 14:36, Andy Burns wrote:

> JNugent wrote:
>
>> I thought you meant that when you pressed the Reply button,
>> Thunderbird was either:
>>
>> (a) simply trying to reply to a usenet message as an email to the PP, or
>>
>> (b) trying to replay as an email to the PP AND as a usenet post.
>
> It was trying to do (b)
>
> As I said, I don't /think/ I clicked the wrong button,

at some level you did: that is the 'reply' behaviour not the 'followup'

I would have
> spotted this behaviour if TB had been doing it before because it
> succeeds in the usenet post, and then hangs forever trying to send the
> email from my usenet account.
>

--
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― Confucius

[Andy Burns]

GB wrote:

> Have you tried the add-in Message Header Toolbar Customize?

Oh certainly, I use it to totally hide the unwanted "lower" toolbar.

[Andy Burns]

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> As I said, I don't /think/ I clicked the wrong button,
>
> at some level you did: that is the 'reply' behaviour not the 'followup'

NO!

The reply button in the main toolbar always sends email replies to
emails, and always sends usenet replies to usenet posts. To me that's
perfect, no concept of having to press different types of reply for
different types of message.

Sounds like you use the icons in the lower toolbar? The day that thing
appeared I disabled it, due to it needlessly consuming screen area.

[williamwright]

On 11/09/2021 08:19, ARW wrote:

>
> When Covid started and Terry Casey had just passed away I made
> arrangements so that friends of mine that have no contact with my family
> (or the newsgroup) could be notified.
>
> A bit morbid but if I died tomorrow Lou would only have to make one
> phone call or text and it would be sorted.
>
> --
>
> Adam
>
>

That's a good idea.

Bill

[Richard]

Oh.
You're right!
I didn't have the "Reply" button in the main toolbar and added it. This
message was sent by clicking that button.

[Andy Burns]

Richard wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> The reply button in the main toolbar always sends email replies to
>> emails, and always sends usenet replies to usenet posts.  To me that's
>> perfect, no concept of having to press different types of reply for
>> different types of message.
>

> You're right!
> I didn't have the "Reply" button in the main toolbar and added it. This
> message was sent by clicking that button.

That button to me is how a reply button /should/ work.

I shall have to put the mistaken emails down to mouse problems, but it's
never happened before.

[ARW]

On 11/09/2021 19:37, GB wrote:

> On 10/09/2021 18:57, ARW wrote:
>> David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>>
>> He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
>> daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>>
>>
>>
>> Goodbye my friend.
>>
>>
>

> I'm so sorry to hear that. My condolences to you, his friend, and to his
> family.
>
> It may be some little comfort to the family to hear that so many people
> who have never met David, but only read his posts on this NG, have
> expressed their sadness at his passing.

Thanks.

I have passed the message on to Rebecca on behalf of everyone who has
posted here.

--

Adam

[Richard]

If I click the "Reply" button in the lower toolbar, the message has your
email address as the "To". The "Newsgroup" is optional.
In this particular reply, I have set it to uk.d-i-y

FWIW, I have always used the "Followup" in the lower toolbar for
newsgroups and "Reply" for emails.

[Andy Burns]

Richard wrote:

> FWIW, I have always used the "Followup" in the lower toolbar for
> newsgroups and "Reply" for emails.

I've never used the lower toolbar, but that is indeed how I understood
that it works, is there any advantage to it? I see only disadvantages.

[Richard]

Have to admit that I just use Thunderbird mainly as found. Only put the
"Reply" in the main toolbar when you mentioned it. I responded to your
post as others seemed to think you were doing something wrong.
As always with software, there is no right or wrong just different.

[jkn]

This seems to have become the Usenet "memorial drift" thread...

[Thomas Prufer]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:57:20 +0100, ARW <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>David Peter Lang unexpectedly peacefully passed away yesterday.
>
>He leaves behind his two daughters Rebecca and Nicola and grand
>daughters Hayley and Beatrix.
>
>
>
>Goodbye my friend.

Condolences to those left behind.

I remember him as helpful and knowledgeable. Bought a portable workbench thing
on his recommendation, and don't regret it.


Thomas Prufer

[Vir Campestris]

On 13/09/2021 17:40, ARW wrote:
>
> I have passed the message on to Rebecca on behalf of everyone who has
> posted here.
>

You can add another one to your list.

He'll be missed.

(And this is from someone who is married to a Kentish Maid)

Andy