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The Night Tripper
Jul 9, 2012, 5:13:04 PM7/9/12
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Hi all
I am wondering about becoming the scourge of my neighbours(*) and making
a garden set of tubular bells.
I'd like to find a source of suitable metal pipe. It should be:
- of decent diameter, say >= 20mm
- non-rusting (within reason)
- cheap
Scaff pipe is a bit too hefty, and something like 28mm Cu pipe is a bit
pricy. Any thoughts about something in between? I'd probably need a bit
less than 10m.
(*) not really, it would only be for when the granddaughter came round...
Thanks
J^n
I am wondering about becoming the scourge of my neighbours(*) and making
a garden set of tubular bells.
I'd like to find a source of suitable metal pipe. It should be:
- of decent diameter, say >= 20mm
- non-rusting (within reason)
- cheap
Scaff pipe is a bit too hefty, and something like 28mm Cu pipe is a bit
pricy. Any thoughts about something in between? I'd probably need a bit
less than 10m.
(*) not really, it would only be for when the granddaughter came round...
Thanks
J^n
Graham.
Jul 9, 2012, 5:29:13 PM7/9/12
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What about something like cheap shower curtain pole or aluminium
aerial mast?
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Davey
Jul 9, 2012, 5:56:41 PM7/9/12
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 22:13:04 +0100
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Davey.
Owain
Jul 9, 2012, 7:04:30 PM7/9/12
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On Jul 9, 10:13 pm, The Night Tripper wrote:
> Hi all
> I am wondering about becoming the scourge of my neighbours(*) and making
> a garden set of tubular bells.
>
> I'd like to find a source of suitable metal pipe. It should be:
>
> - of decent diameter, say >= 20mm
> - non-rusting (within reason)
> - cheap
>
> Scaff pipe is a bit too hefty, and something like 28mm Cu pipe is a bit
> pricy. Any thoughts about something in between? I'd probably need a bit
> less than 10m.
steel electrical conduit
> Hi all
> I am wondering about becoming the scourge of my neighbours(*) and making
> a garden set of tubular bells.
>
> I'd like to find a source of suitable metal pipe. It should be:
>
> - of decent diameter, say >= 20mm
> - non-rusting (within reason)
> - cheap
>
> Scaff pipe is a bit too hefty, and something like 28mm Cu pipe is a bit
> pricy. Any thoughts about something in between? I'd probably need a bit
> less than 10m.
or gas barrel
Owain
Arfa Daily
Jul 9, 2012, 8:27:05 PM7/9/12
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"Graham." <m...@privacy.net.invalid> wrote in message
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standard 15mm copper pipe. The 'ring' sounds just like any such wind chimes.
If you want to protect the pipe from the elements, spray it with Halfords
clear lacquer. This is made for protecting ally wheel rims and the like.
It's a real easy spray can, cheap, quick drying, and very tough. I use it
for all sorts of oddball uses. My three tubes are 32 cm, 37 cm and 43 cm,
which gives that nice 'mournful' slightly off-key sound combination that
makes these chimes so endearing to everyone ... :-) Each tube is
suspended using a fishing line through a pair of 3 mm holes drilled straight
through about 7 mm from the top
Arfa
The Natural Philosopher
Jul 9, 2012, 8:53:56 PM7/9/12
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brass is a possible.
--
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
Chris J Dixon
Jul 10, 2012, 2:04:21 AM7/10/12
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Arfa Daily wrote:
>It's fine. I have a set hanging in my workshop that I made years ago from
>standard 15mm copper pipe. The 'ring' sounds just like any such wind chimes.
>If you want to protect the pipe from the elements, spray it with Halfords
>clear lacquer. This is made for protecting ally wheel rims and the like.
>It's a real easy spray can, cheap, quick drying, and very tough. I use it
>for all sorts of oddball uses. My three tubes are 32 cm, 37 cm and 43 cm,
>which gives that nice 'mournful' slightly off-key sound combination that
>makes these chimes so endearing to everyone ... :-) Each tube is
>suspended using a fishing line through a pair of 3 mm holes drilled straight
>through about 7 mm from the top
>
There seems to be lots of info here:
>It's fine. I have a set hanging in my workshop that I made years ago from
>standard 15mm copper pipe. The 'ring' sounds just like any such wind chimes.
>If you want to protect the pipe from the elements, spray it with Halfords
>clear lacquer. This is made for protecting ally wheel rims and the like.
>It's a real easy spray can, cheap, quick drying, and very tough. I use it
>for all sorts of oddball uses. My three tubes are 32 cm, 37 cm and 43 cm,
>which gives that nice 'mournful' slightly off-key sound combination that
>makes these chimes so endearing to everyone ... :-) Each tube is
>suspended using a fishing line through a pair of 3 mm holes drilled straight
>through about 7 mm from the top
>
http://home.fuse.net/engineering/Chimes.htm
Chris
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Andy Dingley
Jul 10, 2012, 6:30:07 AM7/10/12
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On Jul 10, 12:04 am, Owain <spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com> wrote:
> steel electrical conduit
Conduit is usually rolled and welded, so it has a lumpy seam up one
side and sounds worse than most tubular bells. You want seamless
drawn.
I've generally used old bike frame, from scrapper bikes (either the
local dump, or the local race teams). A good steel tubeset (531 etc)
does give a "brighter" tone than a cheap bike. Titanium is good,
because it will anodise in the sort of lurid hippy colours that appeal
to the same people who like windchimes.
Bamboo windchimes sound distinctive and are made from high quality
large diameter bamboo. Such bamboo is best and most cheaply obtained
by buying windchimes, imported from China or Vietnam. They even cut
them to length for you. Make a new carrier for the top out of locally
grown timber and pass them off as local product.
Read some wind chime design theory (online) to get the lengths either
right and cheerfully hippy, mournfully Addams Family, or incredibly
grating and out of tune. If you don't like wind chimes now, just wait
until you hear a bad set.
Magnesium tube is best, because at least then the f*cker will burn
nicely.
> steel electrical conduit
Conduit is usually rolled and welded, so it has a lumpy seam up one
side and sounds worse than most tubular bells. You want seamless
drawn.
I've generally used old bike frame, from scrapper bikes (either the
local dump, or the local race teams). A good steel tubeset (531 etc)
does give a "brighter" tone than a cheap bike. Titanium is good,
because it will anodise in the sort of lurid hippy colours that appeal
to the same people who like windchimes.
Bamboo windchimes sound distinctive and are made from high quality
large diameter bamboo. Such bamboo is best and most cheaply obtained
by buying windchimes, imported from China or Vietnam. They even cut
them to length for you. Make a new carrier for the top out of locally
grown timber and pass them off as local product.
Read some wind chime design theory (online) to get the lengths either
right and cheerfully hippy, mournfully Addams Family, or incredibly
grating and out of tune. If you don't like wind chimes now, just wait
until you hear a bad set.
Magnesium tube is best, because at least then the f*cker will burn
nicely.
Grimly Curmudgeon
Jul 11, 2012, 9:37:40 AM7/11/12
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 01:27:05 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>It's fine. I have a set hanging in my workshop that I made years ago from
>standard 15mm copper pipe. The 'ring' sounds just like any such wind chimes.
>If you want to protect the pipe from the elements, spray it with Halfords
>clear lacquer
Copper pipes as chimes outside these days wouldn't be there for long.
<arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>It's fine. I have a set hanging in my workshop that I made years ago from
>standard 15mm copper pipe. The 'ring' sounds just like any such wind chimes.
>If you want to protect the pipe from the elements, spray it with Halfords
>clear lacquer
Arfa Daily
Jul 11, 2012, 11:59:28 AM7/11/12
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" <gri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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nicking for the scrap value, is it ?
Arfa
The Natural Philosopher
Jul 11, 2012, 3:06:27 PM7/11/12
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the scrappers.
Those pikeys nick anything that has metal in it.
> Arfa
The Night Tripper
Jul 11, 2012, 6:49:35 PM7/11/12
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Hi all
thansk for the many and varied responses...
For the record, I'm not making wind chimes, but something you have to
manually strike to make a sound. I like the idea of Alu Mast poles .. but
Andy Dingley's bike tubing sounds even better. If I hadn't scrapped my Bob
Jackson Super Tourist a while ago...
Will update you as the thing progresses...
Cheers
J^n
thansk for the many and varied responses...
For the record, I'm not making wind chimes, but something you have to
manually strike to make a sound. I like the idea of Alu Mast poles .. but
Andy Dingley's bike tubing sounds even better. If I hadn't scrapped my Bob
Jackson Super Tourist a while ago...
Will update you as the thing progresses...
Cheers
J^n
Owain
Jul 11, 2012, 7:28:07 PM7/11/12
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On Jul 11, 11:49 pm, The Night Tripper <jkn...@nicorp.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi all
> thansk for the many and varied responses...
>
> For the record, I'm not making wind chimes, but something you have to
> manually strike to make a sound. I like the idea of Alu Mast poles .. but
> Andy Dingley's bike tubing sounds even better. If I hadn't scrapped my Bob
> Jackson Super Tourist a while ago...
There are previous discussions online about making
> Hi all
> thansk for the many and varied responses...
>
> For the record, I'm not making wind chimes, but something you have to
> manually strike to make a sound. I like the idea of Alu Mast poles .. but
> Andy Dingley's bike tubing sounds even better. If I hadn't scrapped my Bob
> Jackson Super Tourist a while ago...
glockenspielenthingens.
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.music.makers.percussion/2006-07/msg00043.html
You can buy the chime bars in kits for assembling into your own
glockenspielenthingens.
http://www.rutlands.co.uk/cabinet-hardware/project-supplies/xylophone-kits/DK7146/glockenspiel-kit---25-note
Owain
Owain
Jul 11, 2012, 7:37:06 PM7/11/12
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On Jul 12, 12:28 am, Owain wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0njC1v8OZSA
http://www.greggpayne.com/resume.html
Owain
> On Jul 11, 11:49 pm, The Night Tripper wrote:
> > For the record, I'm not making wind chimes, but something you have to
> > manually strike to make a sound.
Or you could ask this guy what he used - probably aluminum tube
> > For the record, I'm not making wind chimes, but something you have to
> > manually strike to make a sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0njC1v8OZSA
http://www.greggpayne.com/resume.html
Owain
Rick Hughes
Jul 12, 2012, 6:09:43 AM7/12/12
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pipe.
Brass pipe might work ... chrome on brass towel rails for example ?
I have one I bought in Canada many years ago ... and it is some hard
aluminum alloy tube .. quite thin wall.
Nick Odell
Jul 12, 2012, 7:16:43 PM7/12/12
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because somebody borrowed the low 'C' and never brought it back. They
are made of thick gauge 1.5" brass tube with a brass cap brazed onto
the top. They are very heavy too. Ours are heavily chrome plated. They
are suspended on multistrand steel cable - similar to bike brake cable
- which passes through holes drilled very near the top.
Out in the playground of a local primary school they have a much
simpler set. These look like white coated wardrobe rail which I
suspect is just steel tube with white PVC coating. They have no cap
and very little tone but the children find them enjoyable at playtime.
Incidentally they also have some suspended pots and pans - Google
cacerolazo to find out how much fun people have with those!
Nick
geoff
Jul 13, 2012, 6:15:23 PM7/13/12
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In message <qvydnRJyZqBGn2PS...@brightview.co.uk>, The
Night Tripper <jkn...@nicorp.co.uk> writes
I put up the gazebo this afternoon (I just wand SOMEWHERE I can sit out
of the rain outside), £24 from Argos a couple of years ago
A lot of nice resonant steel tubing there
--
geoff
Night Tripper <jkn...@nicorp.co.uk> writes
of the rain outside), £24 from Argos a couple of years ago
A lot of nice resonant steel tubing there
--
geoff
Arfa Daily
Jul 13, 2012, 9:02:14 PM7/13/12
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"geoff" <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote in message
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down outside, and blowing a gale. Are you relying on the weight of water
that soaks into the canvas, to hold it down ? :-)
Arfa
dennis@home
Jul 14, 2012, 3:24:08 AM7/14/12
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"Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> *!#@ you're brave, Geoff. As I sit here in soggy Northants, it's pissing
> down outside, and blowing a gale. Are you relying on the weight of water
> that soaks into the canvas, to hold it down ? :-)
now.
geoff
Jul 14, 2012, 9:05:31 AM7/14/12
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In message <sy3Mr.803755$S84.4...@fx23.am4>, Arfa Daily
<arfa....@ntlworld.com> writes
Well, pissing down it is 100 miles south also, but I have a nice
sheltered garden with a couple of trees .
... but I have a few square meters that are at least dry (even if I have
yet to pluck up the courage to go and sit out there)
--
geoff
<arfa....@ntlworld.com> writes
sheltered garden with a couple of trees .
... but I have a few square meters that are at least dry (even if I have
yet to pluck up the courage to go and sit out there)
--
geoff
Old Basing Old Bloke
Nov 23, 2016, 1:44:03 PM11/23/16
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replying to The Night Tripper, Old Basing Old Bloke wrote:
Did you actually make a set of tubular bells? If you have, well done. If not,
I made a set from 28mm copper pipe and they play quite well. They are a full 3
octaves from C2 @ 1331.1mm to C5 @ 479mm, and containing 37 chimes. They have
been in the garden for about 2 years, and because copper age hardens, the tone
has become progressively brighter.
I used about 30 metres of 28mm copper tubing at about £250, and about £50
worth of timber and various bits of hardware.
If you are interested in making one, I can give you the cutting and hanging
reference I used, and some photos as a guide.
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Did you actually make a set of tubular bells? If you have, well done. If not,
I made a set from 28mm copper pipe and they play quite well. They are a full 3
octaves from C2 @ 1331.1mm to C5 @ 479mm, and containing 37 chimes. They have
been in the garden for about 2 years, and because copper age hardens, the tone
has become progressively brighter.
I used about 30 metres of 28mm copper tubing at about £250, and about £50
worth of timber and various bits of hardware.
If you are interested in making one, I can give you the cutting and hanging
reference I used, and some photos as a guide.
--
for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/d-i-y-tubular-bells-source-of-cheap-pipe-819099-.htm
Brian Gaff
Nov 23, 2016, 3:26:35 PM11/23/16
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Bet you are popular with the neighbours then!
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Old Basing Old Bloke
Nov 23, 2016, 5:14:03 PM11/23/16
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replying to Brian Gaff, Old Basing Old Bloke wrote:
Double glazing is a wonderful thing.
Anyway, soft wooden mallets are very quiet, I seldom use the hard plastic ones
which really do belt the sound out.
It is a nice simple toy for the grandchildren to play with.
Double glazing is a wonderful thing.
Anyway, soft wooden mallets are very quiet, I seldom use the hard plastic ones
which really do belt the sound out.
It is a nice simple toy for the grandchildren to play with.
MrCheerful
Nov 24, 2016, 3:46:56 AM11/24/16
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On 23/11/2016 18:44, Old Basing Old Bloke wrote:
> replying to The Night Tripper, Old Basing Old Bloke wrote:
> Did you actually make a set of tubular bells? If you have, well done. If
> not,
> I made a set from 28mm copper pipe and they play quite well. They are a
> full 3
> octaves from C2 @ 1331.1mm to C5 @ 479mm, and containing 37 chimes.
> They have
> been in the garden for about 2 years, and because copper age hardens,
> the tone
> has become progressively brighter.
> I used about 30 metres of 28mm copper tubing at about £250, and about £50
> worth of timber and various bits of hardware. If you are interested in
> making one, I can give you the cutting and hanging
> reference I used, and some photos as a guide.
30 metres of 28 mm is now 134 plus vat from BES plumbing inc delivery.
> replying to The Night Tripper, Old Basing Old Bloke wrote:
> Did you actually make a set of tubular bells? If you have, well done. If
> not,
> I made a set from 28mm copper pipe and they play quite well. They are a
> full 3
> octaves from C2 @ 1331.1mm to C5 @ 479mm, and containing 37 chimes.
> They have
> been in the garden for about 2 years, and because copper age hardens,
> the tone
> has become progressively brighter.
> I used about 30 metres of 28mm copper tubing at about £250, and about £50
> worth of timber and various bits of hardware. If you are interested in
> making one, I can give you the cutting and hanging
> reference I used, and some photos as a guide.
very fast service and cheap on all plumbing type stuff.
GB
Nov 24, 2016, 6:53:06 AM11/24/16
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On 24/11/2016 08:46, MrCheerful wrote:
> 30 metres of 28 mm is now 134 plus vat from BES plumbing inc delivery.
> very fast service and cheap on all plumbing type stuff.
The timbre would depend on things like the seams. So, possibly the BES
> 30 metres of 28 mm is now 134 plus vat from BES plumbing inc delivery.
> very fast service and cheap on all plumbing type stuff.
stuff will sound different. Is wall thickness and metal composition
completely standardised? Is copper pipe really 100% copper?
I suppose that under (son of) DSR you can return it if it doesn't sound
right. :)
The Natural Philosopher
Nov 24, 2016, 7:45:24 AM11/24/16
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On 24/11/16 11:53, GB wrote:
> On 24/11/2016 08:46, MrCheerful wrote:
>
>> 30 metres of 28 mm is now 134 plus vat from BES plumbing inc delivery.
>> very fast service and cheap on all plumbing type stuff.
>
> The timbre would depend on things like the seams. So, possibly the BES
> stuff will sound different. Is wall thickness and metal composition
> completely standardised? Is copper pipe really 100% copper?
Nope. There are traces of other stuff in it, but it is overwhelmingly
> On 24/11/2016 08:46, MrCheerful wrote:
>
>> 30 metres of 28 mm is now 134 plus vat from BES plumbing inc delivery.
>> very fast service and cheap on all plumbing type stuff.
>
> The timbre would depend on things like the seams. So, possibly the BES
> stuff will sound different. Is wall thickness and metal composition
> completely standardised? Is copper pipe really 100% copper?
copper.
>
> I suppose that under (son of) DSR you can return it if it doesn't sound
> right. :)
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"
harry
Nov 24, 2016, 12:47:41 PM11/24/16
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On Monday, 9 July 2012 22:13:04 UTC+1, The Night Tripper wrote:
> Hi all
> I am wondering about becoming the scourge of my neighbours(*) and making
> a garden set of tubular bells.
>
> I'd like to find a source of suitable metal pipe. It should be:
>
> - of decent diameter, say >= 20mm
> - non-rusting (within reason)
> - cheap
>
> Scaff pipe is a bit too hefty, and something like 28mm Cu pipe is a bit
> pricy. Any thoughts about something in between? I'd probably need a bit
> less than 10m.
>
> (*) not really, it would only be for when the granddaughter came round...
>
> Thanks
> Hi all
> I am wondering about becoming the scourge of my neighbours(*) and making
> a garden set of tubular bells.
>
> I'd like to find a source of suitable metal pipe. It should be:
>
> - of decent diameter, say >= 20mm
> - non-rusting (within reason)
> - cheap
>
> Scaff pipe is a bit too hefty, and something like 28mm Cu pipe is a bit
> pricy. Any thoughts about something in between? I'd probably need a bit
> less than 10m.
>
> (*) not really, it would only be for when the granddaughter came round...
>
> J^n
If you are in/near W Midlands, I have some surplus 28mm copper pipe.
Not sure how much, but a few meters
Sk4rocks
Dec 18, 2018, 1:44:06 PM12/18/18
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replying to Old Basing Old Bloke, Sk4rocks wrote:
I’m making these for a school project. How did you calculate the notes and
make the structure for the tubular bells?
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I’m making these for a school project. How did you calculate the notes and
make the structure for the tubular bells?
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Tim Watts
Dec 18, 2018, 2:15:22 PM12/18/18
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On 18/12/2018 18:44, Sk4rocks wrote:
> replying to Old Basing Old Bloke, Sk4rocks wrote:
> I’m making these for a school project. How did you calculate the notes and
> make the structure for the tubular bells?
>
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Tubular_bells/Construction/
> replying to Old Basing Old Bloke, Sk4rocks wrote:
> I’m making these for a school project. How did you calculate the notes and
> make the structure for the tubular bells?
>
The pitch in hertz is inversely proportional to the square of the length
which will give you some idea of teh range of lenghts you might need.
Here's a frequency table of notes to give you a general idea - but I
have no idea which scale tubular bells are tuned to.
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Old Bloke
Feb 18, 2021, 9:15:06 AM2/18/21
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I made my set of tubular bells from 28mm cu pipe. Yes it was a bit pricey, but there is an old adage that says "The quality remains long after the price is forgotten". Mine has been there for over 6 years and is still going strong.
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Jonathan
Feb 18, 2021, 10:19:18 AM2/18/21
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