If there's one thing that turns my stomach, it's cat poo on the lawn before mowing

[MM]

Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.

Have we nothing like that in Britain?

I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
effective. The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer
and the poo dries out and crumbles.

Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
cat mess.

I'm desperate for a better solution!

(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

MM

[alan_m]

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
> a shovel.
>
> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
> deal with.
>

Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
to grow flowers in the front garden. As a result I'm one of the few who
hasn't completely concreted the front for car parking. I do have and
stand for the car but also flower boarders. I get around 5 lots of cat
shit a day! Fucking antisocial cat owners that cannot be bothered to
look after their pets.


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[Andy Cap]

There's load of adverts for dog poop freeze. I don't know if it works
though but it must be worth a try.

[John Smith]

On 2016-04-17 09:43:19 +0000, MM said:

> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed.

Luxury. We currently have a family of foxes with five cubs under our
shed and they do like to play on the lawn.

[Tim Lamb]

In message <16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com>, MM
<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes

>Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
>first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
>cat mess.
>
>I'm desperate for a better solution!
>
>(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
>I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
>automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

Diversionary tactics? Provide a small area of freshly dug and raked
soil. For full authenticity, plant some valuable seeds.

Are you certain it is not Fox poo? Pointy ends. Cats prefer to bury
their gifts.

--
Tim Lamb

[Andrew]

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:

> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
> a shovel.
>
> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
> deal with.
>

> MM
>
Get a jack russell terrier.

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:51:55 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>> a shovel.
>>
>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>> deal with.
>>
>
>
>Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
>to grow flowers in the front garden.

It's worse if you are trying to grow veg. ;-(

> As a result I'm one of the few who
>hasn't completely concreted the front for car parking. I do have and
>stand for the car but also flower boarders. I get around 5 lots of cat
>shit a day!

Lovely.

<snip>

>ucking antisocial cat owners that cannot be bothered to
>look after their pets.

Quite.

My solution ... going along with the recent law regarding having all
dogs chipped, have all (supposed) 'pet cats' chipped and their DNA
registered (along with dogs of course).

You find some cat cr*p in your garden, you send a small sample off to
some service who then send the bill for the test and either the
opportunity to cleanup after their 'possession in the future, pay for
professional cleanup services or the fine(s).

It's totally ridiculous that a dog owner is fined for letting their
pet foul in a public place but not a cat owner and worse that they can
(officially) get away with their animals fouling other people
*private* gardens and areas. [1]

I feel a 'be responsible for *your* pet' social change coming on
(stronger), as it has done with smoking in public places and about
time.

The innocent parties have rights too! ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] And in these technical days there is no reason why a cat can't
wear electronic collar and you equip your boundary with a wire and
when your cat leaves your boundary it triggers an alarm in one of the
local 'Cat patrol' units (paid for out of the cat licence) and on the
cats collar itself, the cat gets collected and the owner can pay the
fine to get it back. ;-)

[alan_m]

On 17/04/2016 11:08, Tim Lamb wrote:

> Cats prefer to bury
> their gifts.
>

No they don't. If they shit on a lawn they just leave it. If they shit
on earth they may move a bit of soil but the shit remains on the surface.

[alan_m]

On 17/04/2016 11:13, Andrew wrote:

> Get a jack russell terrier.
>

Shouldn't the owner just get the cat put down if they cannot be bothered
to be responsible for their pet?

[MM]

Cats probably start out with the best of intentions, but they are lazy
and just do one or two token scratches in the earth. No way do they
bury it.

I've checked on the internet and fox poo looks different. Plus, I've
seen cats on the lawn preparing their typical squatting position. I'm
frequently too late to shoo 'em away, though.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:02:35 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 17/04/2016 11:08, Tim Lamb wrote:
>
>> Cats prefer to bury
>> their gifts.
>>
>
>No they don't. If they shit on a lawn they just leave it. If they shit
>on earth they may move a bit of soil but the shit remains on the surface.

That exactly describes what I find here.

MM

[MM]

Nope. I don't like dogs. Ever watched a relative or friend's dog
pulling its arse across the carpet on which the family toddler is
playing. Messy, filthy, smelly, drooling animals that drink out of
toilets.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:03:53 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 17/04/2016 11:13, Andrew wrote:
>
>> Get a jack russell terrier.
>>
>
>Shouldn't the owner just get the cat put down if they cannot be bothered
>to be responsible for their pet?

Actually, I think this being rural Lincs most of the cats are strays.

MM

[ARW]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0as6hb1fan1ec93ji...@4ax.com...

Get a snake then.

--
Adam

[Andy Cap]

I think that might be worth a try. A tray with loose soil in it could
provide an attractive alternative. Combine it with the freeze spray and
you could end up with easily disposed of deposits !! Not tried it though.

[R D S]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:15:39 +0100, T i m wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:51:55 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>> a shovel.
>>>
>>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>>> deal with.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
>>to grow flowers in the front garden.
>
> It's worse if you are trying to grow veg. ;-(
>

Yep, especially if it's stuff you weren't planning to cook, radish etc.

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:43:19 +0100, MM wrote:

> I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't effective.
> The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer and the poo
> dries out and crumbles.

How about a pressure washer? That'll certainly shift it. Just make sure
you stand in such a position so you don't end up getting sprayed with the
shit you're trying to remove.

> (By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn. I've
> tried everything in that department already, short of having automatic
> scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

What about those fake cats you can buy cheap? They're just two-
dimensional black cat-shaped cut-outs with green glass for eyes which you
position where the real cats can see them before entering your garden. I
gather they're quite effective.

[ARW]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com...

> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
> a shovel.

Why not just mow the fucking lawn - cat shit and all (if it really is cat
shit) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of fucking about
with the hoe?


--
Adam

[Fredxxx]

That was my thought. Any shit and I mow over it. It seems to magically
disappear!

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:49:47 -0000 (UTC), R D S <rsa...@yahoo.com>

Yup. ;-(

It was partly why I stopped growing my own.

It really is a ridiculous state of affairs.

I wonder what would happen if someone had a pet hawk and it took fancy
fish out of a neighbours pond or killed someone's pet Guinea pig or
rabbit when out in it's run?

I wonder if the owner of the hawk could simply wash their hands of
their responsibility like most cat owners seem to? I bet 'that'
particular 'roaming animal' carries some sort of responsibility of
ownership?

I think some brightly coloured die in a Supersoaker could help reveal
the owner (or some liquid chemical that really stinks as much as cat
sh1t). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com...
>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>> a shovel.
>
>
>Why not just mow the f

<snip>

> lawn - cat shit and all (if it really is cat
>shit) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of fucking about
>with the hoe?

Have you ever tried doing that OOI? Daughter was working for the local
council doing just that every day and that's why they often wear
disposable overalls, especially in the walled gardens at the back of
flats etc (that seem to suffer more with cat cr*p than 'open' communal
areas).

At least the dog owners could be asked to clear it up first or they
didn't mow it. It (and cat cr*p) doesn't always just get chopped up
and spread about, it can end up wrapped round the wheel on the mower
and that then goes back in the van ... (sometimes lifted in by two
people) ...

Even the face visor didn't prevent her wearing diced slug on her face
now and again (mainly when strimming) so basically anything could end
up anywhere.

Cheers, T i m

[ARW]

"T i m" <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote in message
news:m407hb5cig1qq7fq9...@4ax.com...

Never had a problem with it. Straight over it with the mower and it is
gone - dog shit, cat shit or fox shit. If a bit sticks to the mower blades
then so what?

The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
local pub.

--
Adam

[John Rumm]

How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?




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[T i m]

No, maybe you haven't, but I guess some people must (who may be doing
more mowing in a day than you do in a year) an I'm guessing they
wouldn't issue protective gear if they didn't need to?

>Straight over it with the mower and it is
>gone - dog shit, cat shit or fox shit.

Ok.

> If a bit sticks to the mower blades
>then so what?

No, if you think I was ever concerned with such sticking to the blades
than what might remain stuck to the wheels then you may have been
confused somewhere. ;-(

>
>The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>local pub.

Again, it depends on how you are using both. I'm not sure most touch
the handle with their mouth whilst just 'doing their job'. ;-)

No, the bottom line and I don't think an sane person would argue
otherwise ... 'most people' would consider and prefer their grass,
flower or veg bed not to be covered in any animal cr*p (other than
horse probably) and especially so for those who are working close to
such things on a daily basis (especially those who don't own the
offending animals in the first place!). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[alan_m]

On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:

>
> How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
> them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?

It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
of the cat shit.

[John Rumm]

On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
> On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:
>
>>
>> How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
>> them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?
>
> It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
> of the cat shit.

How do you propose they do that?

Do all the cats contributing to your garden even have "owners" (a loose
concept with cats anyway!)

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:29:37 +0100, John Rumm
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:

>On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
>> On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
>>> them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?
>>
>> It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
>> of the cat shit.
>
>How do you propose they do that?

As he says John, not 'our' problem. One way (for example) would be not
to take on something you aren't fully responsible for in the first
place? Or keep the things 'under control, by accompanying them when
they go outdoors, keeping them indoors or ensuring they can't leave
their own property (netting over the garden / whatever, like I said,
not my responsibility).

>
>Do all the cats contributing to your garden even have "owners" (a loose
>concept with cats anyway!)

Good point and 'possibly not'. So, like with any potentially 'stray'
animal causing people problems, can't they be rounded up and 'dealt
with', like they do with stray dogs, rats or any other vermin?

Cheers, T i m

[Richard]

"MM" wrote in message news:0as6hb1fan1ec93ji...@4ax.com...

Don't be so harsh on those toddlers.

[Andy Cap]

On 17/04/16 14:15, T i m wrote:

> No, the bottom line and I don't think an sane person would argue
> otherwise ... 'most people' would consider and prefer their grass,
> flower or veg bed not to be covered in any animal cr*p (other than
> horse probably) and especially so for those who are working close to
> such things on a daily basis (especially those who don't own the
> offending animals in the first place!). ;-)
>
> Cheers, T i m
>

Fundamentally what you're saying is ban cat ownership because they are
roaming animals and are not suitable to be locked up all day and
everyday and once out and chipping would be pointless, the owner has no
control over them. That's a bit sad because they give a lot of people a
lot of pleasure. I have badgers and foxes and cats crossing my garden
all the time and can't say it's ever been an issue, though admittedly I
prefer shrubs to flowers and vegetables.

[alan_m]

On 17/04/2016 14:29, John Rumm wrote:
> On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
>> On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
>>> them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?
>>
>> It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
>> of the cat shit.
>
> How do you propose they do that?
>

The same way as if they had a lion/alligator/hippo as a pet!

[ARW]

"Cursitor Doom" <cu...@notformail.com> wrote in message
news:nevtg3$9eq$1...@dont-email.me...

> What about those fake cats you can buy cheap? They're just two-
> dimensional black cat-shaped cut-outs with green glass for eyes which you
> position where the real cats can see them before entering your garden. I
> gather they're quite effective.

Real cats will use it as a scratching post and laugh at you.

--
Adam

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo <dnhmrq...@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> escribió:

>The same way as if they had a lion/alligator/hippo as a pet!

Set 'em on whinging neighbour for dinner. Problem solved.

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) Windows 10: less of an OS, more of a drive-by mugging.
(")_(") -- "Esme" on el Reg

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo <nf00rs$mip$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk> escribió:

>The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>local pub.

This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
you look even dodgier.

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:03:25 +0100, Andy Cap
<snruwf...@trashmail.net> wrote:

>On 17/04/16 14:15, T i m wrote:
>
>> No, the bottom line and I don't think an sane person would argue
>> otherwise ... 'most people' would consider and prefer their grass,
>> flower or veg bed not to be covered in any animal cr*p (other than
>> horse probably) and especially so for those who are working close to
>> such things on a daily basis (especially those who don't own the
>> offending animals in the first place!). ;-)
>>
>

>Fundamentally what you're saying is ban cat ownership because they are
>roaming animals and are not suitable to be locked up all day and
>everyday

(I'm not sure that's 100% true but I'll go with it)

> and once out and chipping would be pointless, the owner has no
>control over them.

I'm not saying that but many people would.

> That's a bit sad because they give a lot of people a
>lot of pleasure.

Sure, but are you then saying that the pleasure of someone doing
something (owning a cat) should have the right to outweigh the rights
(and freedom from consequence) of someone who doesn't?

Does someone's right to own a cat and have it cr*p in MY garden
outweigh my right to not own a cat and not only not suffer that but
not inflict it on anyone else?

It's just the same of me riding a motorcycle and doing to
'considerately and me owning a motorcycle with the exhaust
questionably loud and revving it late at night or early in the
morning. Very few people could (or would) complain about the former
whereas I would fully expect people to care and complain about the
latter.

> I have badgers and foxes and cats crossing my garden
>all the time and can't say it's ever been an issue, though admittedly I
>prefer shrubs to flowers and vegetables.

And of course that's 'fine' for you because (as you have just said) it
doesn't impact you. But what if it did, what if you stood in some cat
(/fox/badger) mess on your way in and had walked it round the house
before you realised. What if your grand kids ill because when helping
with the flowers they touched some infected faeces? Al I'm saying is
no one (including me) generally 'bothers' about anything until it
affects them or their friends and family, and there seem to be enough
people here (even) that are affected by even cats cr*pping on their
property to suggest that it's no a 'non-issue' for many.

The problem with cats is that more people have them than keep foxes or
badgers <g> and may non-cat owners suffer because of their roaming and
fouling (even to the point where their owners state they DON't foul in
their own gardens!) and the lack of equality / balance between the
responsibilities of dog versus cat ownership.

Like I said, I might get a 'Cat / sh1te hawk' (called that because of
it's appetite for cats and the amount of (toxic) cat-based waste it
produces) and 'keep' it here (where 'here' is wherever the feck it
want's to go killing it's prey (that's 'nature' after all) and dumping
it out all over the place (but not here)). ;-)

I wonder how soon the cat owners would want me to place more control
over my 'pet'. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:02:19 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 17/04/2016 14:29, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
>>>> them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?
>>>
>>> It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
>>> of the cat shit.
>>
>> How do you propose they do that?
>>
>
>The same way as if they had a lion/alligator/hippo as a pet!

Exactly. ;-)

Your pet, you keep in 'under control' or at least, out of my property!

;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. Better idea. Cat is chipped and the owner wears a high voltage
necklace. As soon as the cat strays into someone's garden that doesn't
welcome them, the owner' gets an electric shock! ;-)

Ok it won't stop their cat cr*pping in your garden but at least the
owner can share the pain. ;-)

[T i m]

Even real cats don't generally stand a laugh at the passive IR
triggered water jets though (as I have seen to my great pleasure). It
was especially handy when I did have a veg patch as the jet would also
water the garden, as it swept though about 100 degrees and back
(catching any warm / moving 'thing' in it's path).

Now, if I'd only been able to feed the spray with liquid fertiliser at
mains pressure ... <weg>

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:52:43 +0100, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:43:19 +0100, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
<snip>

>
>>I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
>>effective.
>

>Have you tried one of those motion-activated water sprays, something
>like this http://tinyurl.com/z37cju4 ?

I have and they work very well. You do need a local hose feed though
and they don't fare too well in the winter.
>
<snip>

>Actually, you should count yourself lucky. We get regularly visited by
>a neighbour's dog. An altogether more substantial job!

Being as you say this is a neighbours dog (and presumably it's coming
into your garden without the neighbour) and you may well therefore
know who that is, have you ever mentioned what is happening to them
and what did they say (OOI)?

Is there no way you could stop the dog getting in, especially as it
sounds like a 'bigger' dog (as they are generally easier to stop than
cats, not that you should have to of course)?

Cheers, T i m

[Rob Smith]

replying to MM, Rob Smith wrote:
I have found that keeping the grass short deters cats. I tend about 10 lawns,
some quite large and the only one that suffers is the one that I leave longer
on the insistence of its owner. All others are never longer than the second
setting on my Honda mowers.

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[ARW]

"Mike Tomlinson" <mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
news:t9Wo7iHg...@jasper.org.uk...

> En el artículo <nf00rs$mip$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
> er.co.uk> escribió:
>
>>The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>>local pub.
>
> This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
> you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
> someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
> you look even dodgier.

I suppose you could wear latex gloves before entering and look normal:-)

And FFS the OP is whinging about a bit of nature. It's a couple of small
amimal turds.



--
Adam

[Andy Cap]

I've just throttled the cat I adopted from next door, because they were
neglecting it ! I hadn't quite realised what an evil little b*****d he
was. Sorry ! ;-)

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 17/04/16 12:31, Andy Cap wrote:
> On 17/04/16 11:08, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com>, MM
>> <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>> Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
>>> first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
>>> cat mess.
>>>
>>> I'm desperate for a better solution!

>>>
>>> (By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
>>> I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
>>> automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)
>>

>> Diversionary tactics? Provide a small area of freshly dug and raked
>> soil. For full authenticity, plant some valuable seeds.
>>
>> Are you certain it is not Fox poo? Pointy ends. Cats prefer to bury
>> their gifts.
>>
>
> I think that might be worth a try. A tray with loose soil in it could
> provide an attractive alternative. Combine it with the freeze spray and
> you could end up with easily disposed of deposits !! Not tried it though.

Pile of builders sand. Lost of dried cat crap in my garden wall.


--
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

[Bob Minchin]

MM wrote:
> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
> a shovel.
>
> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
> deal with.
>

> Have we nothing like that in Britain?

>
> I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't

> effective. The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer
> and the poo dries out and crumbles.
>

> Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
> first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
> cat mess.
>
> I'm desperate for a better solution!
>
> (By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
> I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
> automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)
>

> MM
>
I have had complete success in removing the problem using an ultrasonic
cat scarer. Although designed to be battery operated, they eat batteries
so I made dummy cells to fit inside and run it from a DC wallwart inside
a nearby building with low voltage wire exiting through an airbrick. One
unit is covering about 60 sq metres mounted unobtrusively in one corner.
We our garden is completely open to the road and we don't even see any
cats taking a short cut or even a "shit cut" since installing it about 9
months ago.

hth

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:51:20 +0100, Andy Cap
<snruwf...@trashmail.net> wrote:

<snip>

>>
>> Like I said, I might get a 'Cat / sh1te hawk' (called that because of
>> it's appetite for cats and the amount of (toxic) cat-based waste it
>> produces) and 'keep' it here (where 'here' is wherever the feck it
>> want's to go killing it's prey (that's 'nature' after all) and dumping
>> it out all over the place (but not here)). ;-)
>>
>> I wonder how soon the cat owners would want me to place more control
>> over my 'pet'. ;-)
>>
>

>I've just throttled the cat I adopted from next door, because they were
>neglecting it !

That was a good thing.

> I hadn't quite realised what an evil little b*****d he
>was.

And it sounds like that may have been a good thing as well. ;-)

> Sorry ! ;-)

As long as you did so 'humanely' I think you are ok. ;-)

Daughters friend has a cat and a large dog (Alsatian). You wouldn't
want to be on the wrong end (the teeth end) of the dog but you are
very very unlikely to be in such a situation (I can't think what would
put you there, even if you were an intruder <g>). The test of any such
animal is when you try to take it food away from it and you can with
this one. ;-)

The cat on the other hand is (to us anyway) a perfectly typical 'cat'
where *it* climbs on your lap (uninvited) and then at some point later
and for no obvious reason, whacks you across the hand / arm / leg /
face, often drawing blood. I'd mark that up as a 'dangerous animal'
and have it dealt with.

Ungrateful, unpredictable and pointless poxy things! (Well, they are
predictable as they are all poxy flea / sh1t bags (to us anyway)). ;-)


Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:49:33 +0100, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

<snip>

>>Being as you say this is a neighbours dog (and presumably it's coming
>>into your garden without the neighbour) and you may well therefore
>>know who that is, have you ever mentioned what is happening to them
>>and what did they say (OOI)?
>>
>>Is there no way you could stop the dog getting in, especially as it
>>sounds like a 'bigger' dog (as they are generally easier to stop than
>>cats, not that you should have to of course)?
>>

>>

>Well of course I've mentioned it, to be greeted with 'oh it can't be
>our dog, she goes in the field' (they own a couple of fields adjacent
>to out property).

Oh.

>So I just do a quick scout round before I cut the
>grass, with one of those old style coal shovels (inherited from the
>previous owner who obviously had the same problem!),

It gets better ..

>and scoop up any
>poop and chuck it over the hedge into the field where it belongs.
>Messy ones get a can of water on them afterwards to disperse what's
>left.

I wonder what you do that inconveniences him similarly?

>Saves a lot of hassle and falling out with the neighbour, and to
>do that, doesn't really bother me anyway.

No, however, what I find strange / frustrating is you are the
'innocent party' here and yet you have to be worried about 'not
upsetting' *him*? If someone suggested to me that my dog was fouling
their property I'd take whatever steps necessary to stop it happening,
would apologise and certainly wouldn't hold anything against them?

As a mate used to say ... 'I'd rather die on my feet than live on my
knees' (not that it's that bad in this case as you seem happy to deal
with it your way).

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:44:58 +0100, Bob Minchin
<bob.minc...@YOURHATntlworld.com> wrote:

<snip>

>I have had complete success in removing the problem using an ultrasonic
>cat scarer. Although designed to be battery operated, they eat batteries
>so I made dummy cells to fit inside and run it from a DC wallwart inside
>a nearby building with low voltage wire exiting through an airbrick. One
>unit is covering about 60 sq metres mounted unobtrusively in one corner.
>We our garden is completely open to the road and we don't even see any
>cats taking a short cut or even a "shit cut" since installing it about 9
>months ago.

Result. Would you have a link to the one you actually used please Bob?

Any idea how it may impact any other creatures, like birds or people
walking past with their dogs etc (the dogs, I doubt the people could
hear it)? ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[harry]

On Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:43:23 UTC+1, MM wrote:
> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
> a shovel.
>
> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
> deal with.
>
> Have we nothing like that in Britain?
>
> I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
> effective. The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer
> and the poo dries out and crumbles.
>
> Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
> first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
> cat mess.
>
> I'm desperate for a better solution!
>
> (By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
> I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
> automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)
>
> MM

I've been told if you provide a sand pit, they will shit in that.
Never had to try it, there are no cats where I live.

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo <nf0b2i$qvt$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk> escribió:

>It's a couple of small
>amimal turds.

Although entirely accurate, that's no way to describe the OP.

[alan_m]

On 17/04/2016 17:44, Bob Minchin wrote:

>>
> I have had complete success in removing the problem using an ultrasonic
> cat scarer.

I tried one of those. It worked for around a week and then the cats took
no notice of it. And yes the box was still working.

[Bob Minchin]

I used this one http://tinyurl.com/zpsbdak

The pattern of the pir is a low level fan across the grass so birds
unless they land on the ground are not affected. We feed them from
hanging feeders so they are happy.
People need to come onto our land to trigger the PIR, passing on the
pavement will not trigger it.
My son can hear it each time and sometimes my ears will pickup the pulse
envelope not the carrier.

The battery cover screws on with minuscule screws self tapped into
plastic but with my remote power supply, everything was fitted, tested
and then sealed with neutral cure silicone and has remained working. The
PIR has a blue led for walk testing which provides an indication it
continues to work.
hth
Bob

[Tim Watts]

On 17/04/16 19:24, Chris Hogg wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:30 +0100, T i m <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> No, however, what I find strange / frustrating is you are the
>> 'innocent party' here and yet you have to be worried about 'not
>> upsetting' *him*?
>

> I'm not particularly worried about the dog shit and I don't see it as
> being worth making an issue about; I don't find it as objectionable as
> some here would and it's easily dealt with. It doesn't bother me. We
> live in the country. There's animal shit everywhere: fox, badger,
> rabbit, bird, cow, horse, sheep. It's what they do. You either deal
> with it in a matter-of-fact manner or move and become a townie.
>

Or you buy a water cannon and make a sport of it:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01358/SNN1104WC-682_1358088a.jpg

:)

Or if that's out of range, a Nerf Super Soaker and a gallon of lemon juice.

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 19:24:01 +0100, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:30 +0100, T i m <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>

>>No, however, what I find strange / frustrating is you are the
>>'innocent party' here and yet you have to be worried about 'not
>>upsetting' *him*?
>

>I'm not particularly worried about the dog shit and I don't see it as
>being worth making an issue about; I don't find it as objectionable as
>some here would and it's easily dealt with. It doesn't bother me. We
>live in the country. There's animal shit everywhere: fox, badger,
>rabbit, bird, cow, horse, sheep. It's what they do.

And all in your fenced-in back garden Chris? ;-)

> You either deal
>with it in a matter-of-fact manner or move and become a townie.

Ah, well, of course that's probably the issue, I already am (as I
suspect are most of those who do have issues with such things and
hence why the situation is different for those of us who are).

You might equally get upset by fly-tipping, stabbing's and a burning
car in your road. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[Richard]

"T i m" wrote in message news:lcn7hbldo9gu1gqqj...@4ax.com...

Never a dull moment in your neighbourhood.

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 19:47:51 +0100, Bob Minchin
<bob.minc...@YOURHATntlworld.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> Result. Would you have a link to the one you actually used please Bob?
>>
>> Any idea how it may impact any other creatures, like birds or people
>> walking past with their dogs etc (the dogs, I doubt the people could
>> hear it)? ;-)
>>
>>

>I used this one http://tinyurl.com/zpsbdak

Thanks for that Bob.

>
>The pattern of the pir is a low level fan across the grass so birds
>unless they land on the ground are not affected. We feed them from
>hanging feeders so they are happy.

That's Good.

>People need to come onto our land to trigger the PIR, passing on the
>pavement will not trigger it.

Also good.

>My son can hear it each time and sometimes my ears will pickup the pulse
>envelope not the carrier.

Our daughter will probably also hear it then (she could hear one that
was down the road).

>
>The battery cover screws on with minuscule screws self tapped into
>plastic but with my remote power supply, everything was fitted, tested
>and then sealed with neutral cure silicone and has remained working. The
>PIR has a blue led for walk testing which provides an indication it
>continues to work.

That sounds like a neat solution. Neighbour (whose garden we use and
want to also protect) has an outside socket so (after checking with
him etc) we could use that to power one of those, possibly using the
wall mounting option or mounted on a weighted box with the power unit
(to keep it dry but ventilated etc).

Or, giving they are 'supposed' to work off 4 x AA for '3-4' months, I
wonder if they were NiMh's and paralleled with a suitable (6V?) solar
panel, that might also make it self sufficient so I could run the
other at the other end of the garden (and it's also in the sun). ;-)

>hth

It may well indeed, thanks. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:14:06 +0100, "Richard"
<smit...@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:

<snip>

>>
>>You might equally get upset by fly-tipping, stabbing's and a burning
>>car in your road. ;-)
>
>Never a dull moment in your neighbourhood.

Nope. ;-)

It was funny last night ... but first I'll take you back a few years
...

We used to have some sh1te neighbours, trouble from the moment they
moved in (not directly to me for some reason <weg>) but would be
blasting up and down the road on quad bikes, no TAX, insurance or
protective gear, often with young child (just wearing shorts) sitting
on the tank etc. Old bill rarely in sight.

I rode our daughters 125cc scooter 100 yards down the road with
daughter on the back (but still displaying her L plates) and 50 yds
into the journey (to collect my bike, didn't fancy walking with all my
gear on) come face to face with a traffic car that puts the blues on
and blocks my path. I drew alongside, he lowered his window, I briefly
explained the situation (in a 'Would you believe it' type tone) and he
drove off. ;-)

Back to last night ... waited for it to get dark and was trying a
solar LED light out on the front of the house with the Mrs. We had
been out there for about 30 seconds when we hear from behind us, 'Can
I help you Sir?'. We look round and in the road was a patrol car and a
Policeman 'checking out' what we were up to (which obviously did look
a bit suspicious). ;-)

30 seconds into a 2 minute experiment and a cop comes past *and*
stops. If only they were that vigilant or present all the time ... ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:44:33 +0100, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

<snip>

>>
>>You might equally get upset by fly-tipping, stabbing's and a burning
>>car in your road. ;-)
>

>Fortunately we don't get much of those, certainly not the last two and
>only occasionally do we see fly-tipping.

Ok. ;-)
>

>Cheers!
>
>* http://tinyurl.com/jozdu9c Pics of Cornish hedges here
>http://tinyurl.com/hw4nzvx and here http://tinyurl.com/jshp8yr

Thanks for those. Very substantial and I can see how most could be
climbed by animals.

Not quite so easy with 6' of vertical panel plus 2' of trellis, as is
the norm round here.

Cheers, T i m

[John Rumm]

On 17/04/2016 14:55, T i m wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:29:37 +0100, John Rumm
> <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:
>
>> On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
>>>> them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?
>>>
>>> It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
>>> of the cat shit.
>>
>> How do you propose they do that?
>

> As he says John, not 'our' problem. One way (for example) would be not

Well clearly it *is* your problem since you are the one dealing with the
kitty turds. Since I doubt most cat owners would consider keeping them
permanently inside was a realistic option, or for that matter taking
them for a nocturnal walk on a lead for a few hours every night, there
is only a limited range of things they can plausibly do; like making
sure they have usable toilet facilities at home etc. Even then it will
not guarantee they don't also "go" elsewhere.

> to take on something you aren't fully responsible for in the first
> place? Or keep the things 'under control, by accompanying them when
> they go outdoors, keeping them indoors or ensuring they can't leave
> their own property (netting over the garden / whatever, like I said,
> not my responsibility).

Oh well, look at the bright side, at least you get the benefit of free
vermin control provided by the neighbourhood cats.

>> Do all the cats contributing to your garden even have "owners" (a loose
>> concept with cats anyway!)
>
> Good point and 'possibly not'. So, like with any potentially 'stray'
> animal causing people problems, can't they be rounded up and 'dealt
> with', like they do with stray dogs, rats or any other vermin?

Sounds like you have a new career calling ;-)

(not wishing to sound like I don't sympathise, but living out in the
sticks a bit I realise how futile it is worrying about things crapping
in your garden - by the time the foxes, badgers, cats, horses etc have
done their stuff, worrying about which "owner" is to blame does seem to
be rather pointless!)


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[alan_m]

On 17/04/2016 21:04, John Rumm wrote:

> Oh well, look at the bright side, at least you get the benefit of free
> vermin control provided by the neighbourhood cats.
>

In a urban environment they are more likely to be the cause of a lack of
bird wildlife.

[T i m]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 21:04:28 +0100, John Rumm

<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:

>On 17/04/2016 14:55, T i m wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:29:37 +0100, John Rumm
>> <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
>>>> On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
>>>>> them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?
>>>>
>>>> It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
>>>> of the cat shit.
>>>
>>> How do you propose they do that?
>>
>> As he says John, not 'our' problem. One way (for example) would be not
>
>Well clearly it *is* your problem since you are the one dealing with the
>kitty turds.

Yes, it ends up being my / our problem but the point was that it
shouldn't be?

> Since I doubt most cat owners would consider keeping them
>permanently inside was a realistic option, or for that matter taking
>them for a nocturnal walk on a lead for a few hours every night,

There is no less a reason than they couldn't than expecting me to deal
with their mess? I mean, people *do* takes cats for a walk on a lead
and maybe more would if they were held responsible for their actions?

> there
>is only a limited range of things they can plausibly do; like making
>sure they have usable toilet facilities at home etc.

Yes, that would be one, like a toilet tent in their own back garden.

> Even then it will
>not guarantee they don't also "go" elsewhere.

No, quite, but at least it would show 'good intentions' rather than
the 'meh' you typically get?

>
>> to take on something you aren't fully responsible for in the first
>> place? Or keep the things 'under control, by accompanying them when
>> they go outdoors, keeping them indoors or ensuring they can't leave
>> their own property (netting over the garden / whatever, like I said,
>> not my responsibility).
>
>Oh well, look at the bright side, at least you get the benefit of free
>vermin control provided by the neighbourhood cats.

I'd rather have the vermin thanks! ;-)

>
>>> Do all the cats contributing to your garden even have "owners" (a loose
>>> concept with cats anyway!)
>>
>> Good point and 'possibly not'. So, like with any potentially 'stray'
>> animal causing people problems, can't they be rounded up and 'dealt
>> with', like they do with stray dogs, rats or any other vermin?
>
>Sounds like you have a new career calling ;-)

If they were looking for volunteers even I think I'd sign up. I'd
consider it 'caring in the community'. ;-)

>
>(not wishing to sound like I don't sympathise, but living out in the
>sticks a bit I realise how futile it is worrying about things crapping
>in your garden - by the time the foxes, badgers, cats, horses etc have
>done their stuff, worrying about which "owner" is to blame does seem to
>be rather pointless!)

Sure, and if you do live in such a place I can see how you would (of
course) have a different and not unreasonable pov. But when you live
in a more urban environment, often with restricted space, aren't
surrounded by such a wide range of creatures, have otherwise
animal-proof boundaries and possibly a much higher density of these
'sh1t tippers', it can and often *does* become a PITA to many. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[John Rumm]

On 17/04/2016 21:54, alan_m wrote:
> On 17/04/2016 21:04, John Rumm wrote:
>
>> Oh well, look at the bright side, at least you get the benefit of free
>> vermin control provided by the neighbourhood cats.
>>
>
> In a urban environment they are more likely to be the cause of a lack of
> bird wildlife.

Result, stops you worrying about them crapping on your car...

[Richard]

"T i m" wrote in message news:f7q7hbdig30o0ed33...@4ax.com...

They know who the trouble makers are because their undercover cat squad
patrols the area 24/7.

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:29:06 +0100, "ARW"
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:0as6hb1fan1ec93ji...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:13:37 +0100, Andrew
>> <Andrew9...@mybtinternet.com> wrote:

>>
>>>On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
>>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>>> a shovel.
>>>>
>>>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>>>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>>>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>>>> deal with.
>>>>
>>>

>>>> MM
>>>>
>>>Get a jack russell terrier.
>>
>> Nope. I don't like dogs. Ever watched a relative or friend's dog
>> pulling its arse across the carpet on which the family toddler is
>> playing. Messy, filthy, smelly, drooling animals that drink out of
>> toilets.
>
>
>Get a snake then.

Good idea! I'll just pop to the snake shop right now...

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:02:51 +0100, "Richard"
<smit...@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:

>"MM" wrote in message news:0as6hb1fan1ec93ji...@4ax.com...

>>
>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:13:37 +0100, Andrew
>><Andrew9...@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
>>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>>> a shovel.
>>>>
>>>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>>>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>>>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>>>> deal with.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> MM
>>>>
>>>Get a jack russell terrier.
>>
>>Nope. I don't like dogs. Ever watched a relative or friend's dog
>>pulling its arse across the carpet on which the family toddler is
>>playing. Messy, filthy, smelly, drooling animals that drink out of
>>toilets.
>

>Don't be so harsh on those toddlers.


Good one!

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cu...@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:43:19 +0100, MM wrote:
>
>> I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't effective.
>> The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer and the poo
>> dries out and crumbles.
>

>How about a pressure washer? That'll certainly shift it. Just make sure
>you stand in such a position so you don't end up getting sprayed with the
>shit you're trying to remove.

>
>> (By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn. I've
>> tried everything in that department already, short of having automatic
>> scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)
>

>What about those fake cats you can buy cheap? They're just two-
>dimensional black cat-shaped cut-outs with green glass for eyes which you
>position where the real cats can see them before entering your garden. I
>gather they're quite effective.

I have also heard that they ~may~ be effective. But other people have
said that the visitor cats soon realise that the "dead" cat is in fact
dead, despite the glittering eyes, and then ignore it from then on.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"

<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>news:16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com...

>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>> a shovel.
>
>

>Why not just mow the fucking lawn - cat shit and all (if it really is cat
>shit) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of fucking about
>with the hoe?

We don't have green waste collection here. We have to take the grass
clippings to the local waste recycling plant in Spalding.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:35:38 +0100, T i m <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"
><adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com...
>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>> a shovel.
>>
>>
>>Why not just mow the f

><snip>

>> lawn - cat shit and all (if it really is cat
>>shit) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of fucking about
>>with the hoe?
>

>Have you ever tried doing that OOI? Daughter was working for the local
>council doing just that every day and that's why they often wear
>disposable overalls, especially in the walled gardens at the back of
>flats etc (that seem to suffer more with cat cr*p than 'open' communal
>areas).
>
>At least the dog owners could be asked to clear it up first or they
>didn't mow it. It (and cat cr*p) doesn't always just get chopped up
>and spread about, it can end up wrapped round the wheel on the mower
>and that then goes back in the van ... (sometimes lifted in by two
>people) ...
>
>Even the face visor didn't prevent her wearing diced slug on her face
>now and again (mainly when strimming) so basically anything could end
>up anywhere.

Absolutely. Disgusting suggestion from Mr ARW.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:54:18 +0100, "ARW"
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"T i m" <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote in message
>news:m407hb5cig1qq7fq9...@4ax.com...

>Never had a problem with it. Straight over it with the mower and it is
>gone - dog shit, cat shit or fox shit. If a bit sticks to the mower blades
>then so what?

What about the bags full of grass clippings that you're going to load
into the boot of your car to take to the local waste recycling centre?
Or don't you mind transporting minced cat poo 5 feet behind your head?

(We don't have a green waste collection in South Lincs.)

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:11:28 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
<mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:

>En el artículo <nf00rs$mip$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
>er.co.uk> escribió:
>
>>The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>>local pub.
>
>This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
>you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
>someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
>you look even dodgier.

Just use the sleeve of your jacket. It's not rocket sicence!

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:48:31 +0100, "ARW"
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"Mike Tomlinson" <mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:t9Wo7iHg...@jasper.org.uk...

>> En el artículo <nf00rs$mip$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
>> er.co.uk> escribió:
>>
>>>The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>>>local pub.
>>
>> This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
>> you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
>> someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
>> you look even dodgier.
>

>I suppose you could wear latex gloves before entering and look normal:-)
>
>And FFS the OP is whinging about a bit of nature. It's a couple of small
>amimal turds.

No, it's not. Sometimes it could be five or six. And they are not
usually turds, but *piles*. It's not the same thing at all. If they
were turds I could get a picker-upper/grabber specifically for cat
poo, but they're not. They are little piles of watery cat shit. (I'm
delberately trying to make it sound as disgusting as possible for you,
because I fear you may not have been brought up with sufficient regard
to hygiene. Cat poo IS revolting, and to pooh-pooh it as something on
a par with the door handles in public conveniences is rather silly.)

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:52:43 +0100, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>Actually, you should count yourself lucky. We get regularly visited by
>a neighbour's dog. An altogether more substantial job!

If it was the neigbour's dog I could complain to the council, couldn't
I? Dogs must be chipped as of a few days ago.

But even so, dog poo is slightly more amenable to being "rolled" on to
a shovel, whereas cat poo, mostly a sticky mess, cannot. You have to
*scrape* it on to the shovel.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:30 +0100, T i m <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:49:33 +0100, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>Being as you say this is a neighbours dog (and presumably it's coming
>>>into your garden without the neighbour) and you may well therefore
>>>know who that is, have you ever mentioned what is happening to them
>>>and what did they say (OOI)?
>>>
>>>Is there no way you could stop the dog getting in, especially as it
>>>sounds like a 'bigger' dog (as they are generally easier to stop than
>>>cats, not that you should have to of course)?
>>>
>
>>>
>>Well of course I've mentioned it, to be greeted with 'oh it can't be
>>our dog, she goes in the field' (they own a couple of fields adjacent
>>to out property).
>
>Oh.
>
>>So I just do a quick scout round before I cut the
>>grass, with one of those old style coal shovels (inherited from the
>>previous owner who obviously had the same problem!),
>
>It gets better ..
>
>>and scoop up any
>>poop and chuck it over the hedge into the field where it belongs.
>>Messy ones get a can of water on them afterwards to disperse what's
>>left.
>
>I wonder what you do that inconveniences him similarly?
>
>>Saves a lot of hassle and falling out with the neighbour, and to
>>do that, doesn't really bother me anyway.

>
>No, however, what I find strange / frustrating is you are the
>'innocent party' here and yet you have to be worried about 'not

>upsetting' *him*? If someone suggested to me that my dog was fouling
>their property I'd take whatever steps necessary to stop it happening,
>would apologise and certainly wouldn't hold anything against them?

It's situations like this where I can understand Americans' propensity
for being armed.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 17:44:58 +0100, Bob Minchin
<bob.minc...@YOURHATntlworld.com> wrote:

>MM wrote:
>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>> a shovel.
>>

>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>> deal with.
>>

>> Have we nothing like that in Britain?
>>

>> I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
>> effective. The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer
>> and the poo dries out and crumbles.
>>

>> Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
>> first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
>> cat mess.
>>
>> I'm desperate for a better solution!
>>

>> (By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
>> I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
>> automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)
>>

>> MM

>>
>I have had complete success in removing the problem using an ultrasonic
>cat scarer. Although designed to be battery operated, they eat batteries
>so I made dummy cells to fit inside and run it from a DC wallwart inside
>a nearby building with low voltage wire exiting through an airbrick. One
>unit is covering about 60 sq metres mounted unobtrusively in one corner.
>We our garden is completely open to the road and we don't even see any
>cats taking a short cut or even a "shit cut" since installing it about 9
>months ago.
>

>hth

Interesting. What's the make and model?

MM

[charles]

In article <kYadnQd2guvQcY7K...@brightview.co.uk>,

[Snip]

Not to mention birds

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

[PeterC]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:48:31 +0100, ARW wrote:

> "Mike Tomlinson" <mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:t9Wo7iHg...@jasper.org.uk...
>> En el artículo <nf00rs$mip$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
>> er.co.uk> escribió:
>>
>>>The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>>>local pub.
>>
>> This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
>> you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
>> someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
>> you look even dodgier.
>
> I suppose you could wear latex gloves before entering and look normal:-)
>
> And FFS the OP is whinging about a bit of nature. It's a couple of small
> amimal turds.

OK until they get elsewhere. At one time I used a push mower, no grass box
and the rear deflector had rusted off (I soon replaced that!). Hitting cat
shit that's somewhat hidden by the grass[1] could be a bit unfortunate.

As in another post, keeping the grass short seems to help; leaving the
clippings on also seems to deter cats.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 19:47:51 +0100, Bob Minchin

I've now followed the links and also found the Pestbye product on
Amazon.co.uk for £14.99 (although the eBay offer is selling TWO for
£24.99). Don't know whether I'd need two for quite a small lawn (6m x
6m approx).

But what struck me was the number of customer reviews on the Amazon
page: 2,793!

Also, the product is listed as "#1 Best Seller in Pet & Wild Animal
Control".

Looks highly likely I'll try one. However, the manufacturer reckons
that batteries should last for 3 - 4 months.

The walk testing thingie also sounds as if the company knows what it's
doing, because that would have been my next question: How to tell.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:26:28 +0100, T i m <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:

>Our daughter will probably also hear it then (she could hear one that
>was down the road).

Thankfully, this is one area in which my old, decrepit body excels, as
my hearing is crap. The NHS hearing aids whistle like one of Pete
Waterman's trains, so I only wear them at Christmas.

MM

[MM]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:46:52 -0700 (PDT), harry
<harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:43:23 UTC+1, MM wrote:
>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>> a shovel.
>>
>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>> deal with.
>>
>> Have we nothing like that in Britain?
>>
>> I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
>> effective. The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer
>> and the poo dries out and crumbles.
>>
>> Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
>> first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
>> cat mess.
>>
>> I'm desperate for a better solution!
>>
>> (By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
>> I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
>> automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)
>>
>> MM
>

>I've been told if you provide a sand pit, they will shit in that.
>Never had to try it, there are no cats where I live.

Well, I suppose I could try that, too. The cats nearly always "go" in
the same place. What does work is the deterrent granules (not the
lemon pepper stuff, which is useless, or the Wilko spray deterrent,
also useless), but that is ruddy expensive.

MM

[Mike Barnes]

Not much use if you aren't wearing a jacket.

I'd like to see hand sanitiser sprays installed outside. They'd be easy
to site because there'd no need to hide them from the gaze of
other-sex-people or passer-by.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

[Bob Eager]

Our cats' poo (which is either in the litter tray or buried in the garden)
[1] is much more solid then that. I think it depends on diet - ours get
mainly dry cat food.

[1] Yes, I'm sure. One cat is scared to go out after she got lost a while
ago. The other is old and doesn't leave the garden.

[Another John]

In article <dnh4lq...@mid.individual.net>,
alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> ... Fucking antisocial cat owners that cannot be bothered to
> look after their pets.

I've only read a dozen responses out of 81 -- life being too short and
all that, but:

I ABSOLUTELY agree with your disgust and your sentiments alan_m, except
for the last one (above). And I am a cat owner -- we inherited a cat
from our son who came home for a few months "between moves" and left his
cat with us, about six years ago.

Leaving aside everything else that could be said about cats: we have a
lovely big garden, but there is NO WAY that we can control where the
effing cat shits. (Nor, unfortunately all the other effing cats round
about, who seem to like our garden.)

Due to the awful sodding, sodden winter we've had, the cat stopped going
outside and I had to institute an effing litter tray (which *I*, not the
wife, have to look after[1]). Sometime the cat uses it, sometimes it
doesn't: there is simply no rhyme or reason to the way the buggers
behave.

My point is: a cat owner can be as socially aware as you would wish, but
they cannot control where the cat shits.

Personally I think that domestic pets should be banned entirely; keep em
back on the farm, where they belong, and contribute.

John

[1] Although I get far less (i.e. zero) out of the cat than my wife, and
although it prefers her company to mine, I seem to be the one who does
all the logistical support. And before you tell me: No, I can't get it
put down! Though I've come close to hitting it with a a Number One
shovel.

[Bob Minchin]

Based on my experience, one will be sufficient for your needs.
I chose on the basis that it had controls for pulse type and volume.
In practice mid range and full volume (why not?) seems to have worked.

[T i m]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 09:11:10 +0100, Mike Barnes
<mikeba...@gmail.com> wrote:

>MM wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:11:28 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
>> <mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> En el artículo <nf00rs$mip$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
>>> er.co.uk> escribió:
>>>
>>>> The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>>>> local pub.
>>>
>>> This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
>>> you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
>>> someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
>>> you look even dodgier.
>>
>> Just use the sleeve of your jacket. It's not rocket sicence!
>
>Not much use if you aren't wearing a jacket.
>

<snip>

Didn't such handles and knobs and push-plates used to made of brass
and that has some self-sterilising properties?

Cheers, T i m

[Brian Gaff]

This seems to be a bit emotive considering how small it actually is.Around
here its mainly fox mess that stinks.
In the case of cats on one of them vet programs a while back they said that
its often what the pets are given to eat that causes the poo to be so runny
and smelly, but I'd imagine that telling owners not to feed their cts with
whatever crap they are feeding them with might initiate a local civil war.
Brian

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[T i m]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:04:04 +0100, "Richard"
<smit...@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:

<snip>
>>

>>30 seconds into a 2 minute experiment and a cop comes past *and*
>>stops. If only they were that vigilant or present all the time ... ;-(
>
>They know who the trouble makers are because their undercover cat squad
>patrols the area 24/7.

Cool, where do I sign up (and do we get rifles or just Tazers). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

[whisky-dave]

On Sunday, 17 April 2016 12:18:51 UTC+1, MM wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:08:00 +0100, Tim Lamb
> <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In message <16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com>, MM
> ><kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes

> >>Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
> >>first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
> >>cat mess.
> >>
> >>I'm desperate for a better solution!
> >>
> >>(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
> >>I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
> >>automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)
> >

> >Diversionary tactics? Provide a small area of freshly dug and raked
> >soil. For full authenticity, plant some valuable seeds.
> >
> >Are you certain it is not Fox poo? Pointy ends. Cats prefer to bury
> >their gifts.
>
> Cats probably start out with the best of intentions, but they are lazy
> and just do one or two token scratches in the earth. No way do they
> bury it.
>
> I've checked on the internet and fox poo looks different. Plus, I've
> seen cats on the lawn preparing their typical squatting position. I'm
> frequently too late to shoo 'em away, though.


If yuo see a cat do a littel arse shuffel it;s more likely they are putting scent down than taking a shit.

[Steve Walker]

On 17/04/2016 11:15, T i m wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:51:55 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
> wrote:

>
>> On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>> a shovel.
>>>
>>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>>> deal with.
>>>
>>
>>

>> Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
>> to grow flowers in the front garden.
>
> It's worse if you are trying to grow veg. ;-(
>
>> As a result I'm one of the few who
>> hasn't completely concreted the front for car parking. I do have and
>> stand for the car but also flower boarders. I get around 5 lots of cat
>> shit a day!
>
> Lovely.
>
> <snip>

>> ucking antisocial cat owners that cannot be bothered to
>> look after their pets.
>

> Quite.
>
> My solution ... going along with the recent law regarding having all
> dogs chipped, have all (supposed) 'pet cats' chipped and their DNA
> registered (along with dogs of course).
>
> You find some cat cr*p in your garden, you send a small sample off to
> some service who then send the bill for the test and either the
> opportunity to cleanup after their 'possession in the future, pay for
> professional cleanup services or the fine(s).
>
> It's totally ridiculous that a dog owner is fined for letting their
> pet foul in a public place but not a cat owner and worse that they can
> (officially) get away with their animals fouling other people
> *private* gardens and areas. [1]

Dogs are pack animals, they will happily stay in your home and stay with
you when you walk them. Cats are solitary, their nature is to explore,
hide away, hunt and sleep.

You can control a dog simply by keeping it in and they will rarely
escape. Cats on the other hand can dive out of a door the moment you
open it, leave by the windows (even top opening ones) and if you have
children, you'll never have any chance whatsoever of stopping a cat
going wherever it wants.

As well as that, cat litter trays stink the house out. A dog can be
walked a couple of times a day, a cat cannot be trained to go only when
you want it too, so the tray can be horrible.

[Steve Walker]

On 17/04/2016 16:11, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
> En el artículo <nf00rs$mip$1...@dont-email.me>, ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyond
> er.co.uk> escribió:
>
>> The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
>> local pub.
>
> This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
> you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
> someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
> you look even dodgier.

My wife washes her hands at work, drys them with a paper towel, uses a
second towel to turn the tap off and then a third to open the doors on
the way back to her desk. Dropping the third towel in the bin at her desk.

I have often wondered why the doors to toilets all open inwards. Simply
make them open outwards and we'd all be able to go through them without
touching them with our freshly washed hands.

[Dan S. MacAbre]

Then you'd have the same concerns about the next door that you
encountered :-)

[whisky-dave]

Elbows and feed, it's why you have kick plates on doors. :)

[Tim Lamb]

In message <nf29mg$sek$1...@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
<bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes

>This seems to be a bit emotive considering how small it actually is.Around
>here its mainly fox mess that stinks.
> In the case of cats on one of them vet programs a while back they said that
>its often what the pets are given to eat that causes the poo to be so runny
>and smelly, but I'd imagine that telling owners not to feed their cts with
>whatever crap they are feeding them with might initiate a local civil war.

Target post no 100:-)

My mother, who at one time had 17 cats, used to train errant kittens by
rubbing their noses in any poo found under the settee.

--
Tim Lamb

[ARW]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:pj29hbh2bjrnjsq90...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:29:06 +0100, "ARW"
> <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>>news:0as6hb1fan1ec93ji...@4ax.com...

>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:13:37 +0100, Andrew
>>> <Andrew9...@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
>>>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>>>> a shovel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
>>>>> Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
>>>>> nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
>>>>> deal with.
>>>>>
>>>>

>>>>> MM
>>>>>
>>>>Get a jack russell terrier.
>>>
>>> Nope. I don't like dogs. Ever watched a relative or friend's dog
>>> pulling its arse across the carpet on which the family toddler is
>>> playing. Messy, filthy, smelly, drooling animals that drink out of
>>> toilets.
>>
>>
>>Get a snake then.
>
> Good idea! I'll just pop to the snake shop right now...


Just don't fuck it up by mistakenly walking into Pulse and Cocktails and
asking for a 12" black one.

Most places have reptile shops.

--
Adam

[ARW]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:fds6hb5mkpa5sfioe...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:03:53 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
> wrote:

>
>>On 17/04/2016 11:13, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> Get a jack russell terrier.
>>>
>>

>>Shouldn't the owner just get the cat put down if they cannot be bothered
>>to be responsible for their pet?
>
> Actually, I think this being rural Lincs most of the cats are strays.


Rural Lincs - the only place that makes Norfolk people look normal.

--
Adam

[Richard]

"MM" wrote in message news:bp29hbp9druiiotgt...@4ax.com...

>
>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"
><adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>>news:16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com...

>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>> a shovel.
>>
>>

>>Why not just mow the fucking lawn - cat shit and all (if it really is cat
>>shit) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of fucking about
>>with the hoe?
>
>We don't have green waste collection here. We have to take the grass
>clippings to the local waste recycling plant in Spalding.

Astroturf. Your frequent trips of god-knows-how-many-miles to Spalding from
your place (177 from mine!) is not good for the environment.

[ARW]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:7s29hb1qajbplahao...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:35:38 +0100, T i m <ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"
>><adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:16m6hbpuohmmakc78...@4ax.com...
>>>> Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
>>>> It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
>>>> only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
>>>> a shovel.
>>>
>>>
>>>Why not just mow the f

>><snip>

>>> lawn - cat shit and all (if it really is cat
>>>shit) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of fucking about
>>>with the hoe?
>>

>>Have you ever tried doing that OOI? Daughter was working for the local
>>council doing just that every day and that's why they often wear
>>disposable overalls, especially in the walled gardens at the back of
>>flats etc (that seem to suffer more with cat cr*p than 'open' communal
>>areas).
>>
>>At least the dog owners could be asked to clear it up first or they
>>didn't mow it. It (and cat cr*p) doesn't always just get chopped up
>>and spread about, it can end up wrapped round the wheel on the mower
>>and that then goes back in the van ... (sometimes lifted in by two
>>people) ...
>>
>>Even the face visor didn't prevent her wearing diced slug on her face
>>now and again (mainly when strimming) so basically anything could end
>>up anywhere.
>
> Absolutely. Disgusting suggestion from Mr ARW.


I could make worse suggestions if you want.

It's a bit of shit. Pick it up with a carrier bag etc.


--
Adam

[T i m]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:33:49 +0100, Steve Walker
<st...@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:

<snip>

>> It's totally ridiculous that a dog owner is fined for letting their
>> pet foul in a public place but not a cat owner and worse that they can
>> (officially) get away with their animals fouling other people
>> *private* gardens and areas. [1]
>
>Dogs are pack animals, they will happily stay in your home and stay with
>you when you walk them.

Yup, just how it should be if you own an animal.

> Cats are solitary, their nature is to explore,
>hide away, hunt and sleep.

Exactly, so not really 'a pet' then?

>
>You can control a dog simply by keeping it in and they will rarely
>escape.

Well, if they are the 'escaping' kind they will and do.

> Cats on the other hand can dive out of a door the moment you
>open it,

(as will some (peoples) dogs)

>leave by the windows

Ditto.

> (even top opening ones)

Ok, cat's probably have it there. ;-)

>and if you have
>children, you'll never have any chance whatsoever of stopping a cat
>going wherever it wants.

That I understand (but similar for a dog though).

>
>As well as that, cat litter trays stink the house out.

'Tough'? If you (they) don't like the smell, don't have that sort of
'pet'?

> A dog can be
>walked a couple of times a day,

As could a cat no?

> a cat cannot be trained to go only when
>you want it too,

Nor can a dog (although they generally do take the opportunity when
you present it to them).

> so the tray can be horrible.

So I can imagine.

Luckily, we have never had a cat and very few of our friends and
family have had them either.

Nor do most of the people whose gardens our daughter tends and ALL of
them suffer from and complain about cats fouling in their garden. ;-(

I'm pretty sure something will be done about it (legally) in the
future, just as I did with smoking way back then.

Cheers, T i m

[MM]

No, that's when they hold their rear ends slighltly upwards, then
shuffle.

MM

[MM]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:39:50 +0100, Chris Hogg <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 04:46:25 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
><whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>Arse shuffles in both cats and dogs are an indication either of worms,
>anal sac retention (blocked glands around the anus), or some other
>disorder in the anal region. See http://tinyurl.com/h4ra6uv and
>http://tinyurl.com/k4rzybb

I've heard it's worms. What a fun thing to have bits of canine
intestinal worm being ground into the carpet. Even worse when the dog
owner comes round to your house and wouldn't dream of leaving Fido
outside.

It's not for nothing that all food shops ban dogs, except guide dogs.

MM

[MM]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 09:11:10 +0100, Mike Barnes
<mikeba...@gmail.com> wrote:

They'd get nicked.

MM

[MM]

That's a very good point. I have also wondered often why that is.

MM

[MM]

But wouldn't the cats still crap on it? Okay, so I wouldn't be mowing
it, but I'd still have to clear the cat poop away.

MM