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george - dicegeorge

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Feb 23, 2014, 9:51:23 AM2/23/14
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How to attach scaffold to a wall?
Are there clip/bolts for sale,
if so what are they called,
or where on the interweb shall I look?

Some double brick walls,
some thick stone and lime walls.

And is there readymade flashing
so scaffold can come out of the slated roof?

[george]

fred

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Feb 23, 2014, 10:44:20 AM2/23/14
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In article <led1tb$1r6m$1...@news.enta.net>, george - dicegeorge
<diceg...@hotmail.com> writes
>How to attach scaffold to a wall?
>Are there clip/bolts for sale,
>if so what are they called,
>or where on the interweb shall I look?
>
Scaffolding eyes are the traditional way for tall scaffolds:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/m16-scaffolding-eye-kit/31670

If it was my own home and it wasn't that high I'd consider stays instead
and gaining stability by building round 2 sides (ie round a corner).
--
fred
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Bill Wright

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Feb 23, 2014, 3:25:27 PM2/23/14
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If it isn't too high, outrigger legs (diagonals from the side of the
scaffolding away from the building down to the ground) might suffice.
Otherwise, scaffolding eyes, or 10mm anchor bolts or thread forming
anchor bolts, these used with big washers and steel wire if you've nowt
else.

If there are windows in the right place you can rope through the windows
and the room doors in a big loop.

Bill

Roger Mills

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Feb 23, 2014, 4:11:39 PM2/23/14
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On 23/02/2014 20:25, Bill Wright wrote:
> george - dicegeorge wrote:
>> How to attach scaffold to a wall?
>> Are there clip/bolts for sale,
>> if so what are they called,
>> or where on the interweb shall I look?
>>
>> Some double brick walls,
>> some thick stone and lime walls.
>>
>> And is there readymade flashing
>> so scaffold can come out of the slated roof?
>>
>> [george]
>
> If it isn't too high, outrigger legs (diagonals from the side of the
> scaffolding away from the building down to the ground) might suffice.


Indeed. I recently needed some scaffolding spanning my conservatory to
provide access for (house) roof repairs - and that was just
free-standing, with outriggers etc. keeping it stable, like Bill said.
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bm

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Feb 23, 2014, 4:48:43 PM2/23/14
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"Roger Mills" <watt....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23/02/2014 20:25, Bill Wright wrote:
>> george - dicegeorge wrote:
>>> How to attach scaffold to a wall?
>>> Are there clip/bolts for sale,
>>> if so what are they called,
>>> or where on the interweb shall I look?
>>>
>>> Some double brick walls,
>>> some thick stone and lime walls.
>>>
>>> And is there readymade flashing
>>> so scaffold can come out of the slated roof?
>>>
>>> [george]
>>
>> If it isn't too high, outrigger legs (diagonals from the side of the
>> scaffolding away from the building down to the ground) might suffice.
>
>
> Indeed. I recently needed some scaffolding spanning my conservatory to
> provide access for (house) roof repairs - and that was just free-standing,
> with outriggers etc. keeping it stable, like Bill said.

I've seen thingumyjigs used where you rake out the mortar and insert a split
plate with a scaffold fitting. Tighten a screw or two to spread the split
plate. Not something I'd trust :)
On your conservatory point, I need to get above mine (lean-to, 9 feet front
to back) to re-seal it to the wall. Any suggestions without making props
etc?


Dave Liquorice

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Feb 23, 2014, 5:47:45 PM2/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:51:23 +0000, george - dicegeorge wrote:

> How to attach scaffold to a wall?

What sort of scaffold? Real steel scaffold properly put up and braced
is a) sodding heavy b) very stable. When we had proper scaffolding
put up hear to paint the walls it was free standing and no outriggers
but did form a sort of question mark shape along 4 walls. If it had
just been two or three risers and a straight run I suspect it would
have outriggers.

A lightweight ali tower is a different matter but the outriggers
ought to make it stable, if not they aren't doing their job.

> And is there readymade flashing so scaffold can come out of the slated
> roof?

Sorry, don't understand the question. Why would one want scaffold (a
temporary thing) built permenantly into the roof?

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Cheers
Dave.



Bill Wright

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Feb 23, 2014, 7:52:34 PM2/23/14
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Bill Wright wrote:

> Otherwise, scaffolding eyes, or 10mm anchor bolts or thread forming
> anchor bolts, these used with big washers and steel wire if you've nowt
> else.

I should have added that if you drill the wall for anchors, leave them
in afterwards. They aren't noticeable and they will be there for next
time. Also they will be good for the street decorations at the Coronation.

Bill

MattyF

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Feb 23, 2014, 11:38:15 PM2/23/14
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:51:23 +0000, george - dicegeorge wrote:

> How to attach scaffold to a wall?

Fortunately I have a wooden house, and it was easy to screw large bolts
through the weatherboards into the framing.
http://i39.tinypic.com/rhl7oy.jpg

I have left the bolts there for next time.

Roger Mills

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Feb 24, 2014, 6:42:54 AM2/24/14
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On 23/02/2014 21:48, bm wrote:
> "Roger Mills"<watt....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bmv6d3...@mid.individual.net...

>>
>> Indeed. I recently needed some scaffolding spanning my conservatory to
>> provide access for (house) roof repairs - and that was just free-standing,
>> with outriggers etc. keeping it stable, like Bill said.
>

> On your conservatory point, I need to get above mine (lean-to, 9 feet front
> to back) to re-seal it to the wall. Any suggestions without making props
> etc?
>

What's the construction of the conservatory? How easily can you remove
roof panels? If you can do that, you should be able to access the frame
to wall joint from the inside. That's what I did when I had some
conservatory roof leaks a few years ago.

]This latest job, with the scaffolding, didn't concern the conservatory
except for the need to get above it to access the house roof - see
http://www.mills37.plus.com/Scaffold.jpg]

bm

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Feb 24, 2014, 7:58:40 AM2/24/14
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"Roger Mills" <watt....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23/02/2014 21:48, bm wrote:
>> "Roger Mills"<watt....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:bmv6d3...@mid.individual.net...
>
>>>
>>> Indeed. I recently needed some scaffolding spanning my conservatory to
>>> provide access for (house) roof repairs - and that was just
>>> free-standing,
>>> with outriggers etc. keeping it stable, like Bill said.
>>
>
>> On your conservatory point, I need to get above mine (lean-to, 9 feet
>> front
>> to back) to re-seal it to the wall. Any suggestions without making props
>> etc?
>>
>
> What's the construction of the conservatory? How easily can you remove
> roof panels? If you can do that, you should be able to access the frame to
> wall joint from the inside. That's what I did when I had some conservatory
> roof leaks a few years ago.
>
> ]This latest job, with the scaffolding, didn't concern the conservatory
> except for the need to get above it to access the house roof - see
> http://www.mills37.plus.com/Scaffold.jpg]

Ahhh, right, I see.
I could maybe remove panels but guess I'd have a nightmare re-sealing them.
South facing, i.e, knackered :)


Andrew Gabriel

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Feb 24, 2014, 8:16:22 AM2/24/14
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In article <lee54i$6k0$3...@speranza.aioe.org>,
I asked the scaffolders to leave them in at the back, and to leave
the holes at the front but to unscrew the eyes, which I kept. I
used one to tie the top of the ladder to later on.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Roger Mills

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Feb 24, 2014, 9:05:08 AM2/24/14
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As you can probably see from the photo, my conservatory is uPVC framed
with polycarbonate roof panels. After prising off the beading, the
panels can be lifted or slid out. I managed to get some of the correct
section of rubber seals for mine, and so replaced all the roof seals
when putting the panels back.

You haven't said what yours is made of, so I've no idea how easily you
could do something similar.

Gazz

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Feb 24, 2014, 10:06:12 AM2/24/14
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"bm" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger Mills" <watt....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bmv6d3...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 23/02/2014 20:25, Bill Wright wrote:
>>> george - dicegeorge wrote:
>>>> How to attach scaffold to a wall?
>>>> Are there clip/bolts for sale,
>>>> if so what are they called,
>>>> or where on the interweb shall I look?
>>>>
>>>> Some double brick walls,
>>>> some thick stone and lime walls.
>>>>
>>>> And is there readymade flashing
>>>> so scaffold can come out of the slated roof?
>>>>
>>>> [george]
>>>
>>> If it isn't too high, outrigger legs (diagonals from the side of the
>>> scaffolding away from the building down to the ground) might suffice.
>>
>>
>> Indeed. I recently needed some scaffolding spanning my conservatory to
>> provide access for (house) roof repairs - and that was just
>> free-standing, with outriggers etc. keeping it stable, like Bill said.
>
> I've seen thingumyjigs used where you rake out the mortar and insert a
> split plate with a scaffold fitting. Tighten a screw or two to spread the
> split plate. Not something I'd trust :)

You want to see some of the devises rock climbers use to secure their ropes
as they climb,

Spring loaded serrated cams, pull the lever to retract the cams, push in a
crack in the rock, release the lever and attach rope, then rely on it 100%
because some bloke told you it could hold a double decker bus up... fuck
that.



bm

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Feb 24, 2014, 12:42:06 PM2/24/14
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"Roger Mills" <watt....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Polcarb the same but I haven't yet looked above to see how they're fitted.


GMM

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Feb 24, 2014, 3:35:21 PM2/24/14
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On 23/02/2014 21:48, bm wrote:
> "Roger Mills" <watt....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bmv6d3...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 23/02/2014 20:25, Bill Wright wrote:
>>> george - dicegeorge wrote:
>>>> How to attach scaffold to a wall?
>>>> Are there clip/bolts for sale,
>>>> if so what are they called,
>>>> or where on the interweb shall I look?
>>>>
>>>> Some double brick walls,
>>>> some thick stone and lime walls.
>>>>
>>>> And is there readymade flashing
>>>> so scaffold can come out of the slated roof?
>>>>
>>>> [george]
>>>
>>> If it isn't too high, outrigger legs (diagonals from the side of the
>>> scaffolding away from the building down to the ground) might suffice.
>>
>>
>> Indeed. I recently needed some scaffolding spanning my conservatory to
>> provide access for (house) roof repairs - and that was just free-standing,
>> with outriggers etc. keeping it stable, like Bill said.
>
> I've seen thingumyjigs used where you rake out the mortar and insert a split
> plate with a scaffold fitting. Tighten a screw or two to spread the split
> plate. Not something I'd trust :)

That's what they used at my last place when they scaffolded for the roof
job. Oddly enough, I went to look for an example online to answer this
post but couldn't see one anywhere. I wonder if that's a measure of
their reliability? They seemed to do the job fine though.

Rick Hughes

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Feb 24, 2014, 4:28:58 PM2/24/14
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Best is to have free standing self supporting scaffolding ... however if
you can't do that then one alternative is to use Putlock fittings into
the brickwork.



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bm

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Feb 24, 2014, 5:38:28 PM2/24/14
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"GMM" <GlMiMa-AT-yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I'm damned if I can find one either. Very odd.


Windmill

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Feb 28, 2014, 2:15:49 AM2/28/14
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As with unlucky pilots, the last words of a few rock climbers are said
to be 'Oh Sh***'.


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