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Building a bespoke shed from tongue and groove
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MM
Feb 16, 2012, 3:03:50 PM2/16/12
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The Billy-Oh ready-made tongue and groove sheds are shown on Amazon
with the boards horizontal, but when my father built poultry houses in
the 1950s he always placed the boards vertical so that the rain would
not accumulate in the grooves, but run down to the ground. So which is
best, vertical or horizontal? I reckon I can build my own shed cheaper
(and better) than the ready-made ones.
MM
with the boards horizontal, but when my father built poultry houses in
the 1950s he always placed the boards vertical so that the rain would
not accumulate in the grooves, but run down to the ground. So which is
best, vertical or horizontal? I reckon I can build my own shed cheaper
(and better) than the ready-made ones.
MM
Onetap
Feb 16, 2012, 3:07:24 PM2/16/12
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Ian Jackson
Feb 16, 2012, 3:16:23 PM2/16/12
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In message <33oqj7t1ecb43213b...@4ax.com>, MM
<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
With boards vertical, the wind can blow rain into grooves, and it could
creep round the tongue to the inner side.
With the boards horizontal, and the grooves downward, the rain may be
more likely to run down from board to board.
The one way which would almost certainly be the worst would be boards
horizontal, grooves upwards.
I reckon that #2 would be the way to do it.
--
Ian
<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
creep round the tongue to the inner side.
With the boards horizontal, and the grooves downward, the rain may be
more likely to run down from board to board.
The one way which would almost certainly be the worst would be boards
horizontal, grooves upwards.
I reckon that #2 would be the way to do it.
--
Ian
newshound
Feb 16, 2012, 4:52:11 PM2/16/12
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On 16/02/2012 20:16, Ian Jackson wrote:
>
> With the boards horizontal, and the grooves downward, the rain may be
> more likely to run down from board to board.
>
That's how my (commercial) stable is built. However I built my shed with
>
> With the boards horizontal, and the grooves downward, the rain may be
> more likely to run down from board to board.
>
horizontal sawn and treated feather edge (much cheaper) and that has
been fine.
harry
Feb 17, 2012, 2:43:04 AM2/17/12
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Feather edge is by far the best way to go. Price, appearance and ease
of construction. Also if there is expansion. shrinkage, it matters
not.
Easy to replace a plank if it became necessary too.
There are various sizes/thicknesses.
MM
Feb 17, 2012, 5:09:51 AM2/17/12
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:07:24 -0800 (PST), Onetap <One...@talk21.com>
wrote:
That's not tongue and groove, though.
MM
wrote:
That's not tongue and groove, though.
MM
MM
Feb 17, 2012, 5:12:08 AM2/17/12
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:43:04 -0800 (PST), harry <harol...@aol.com>
wrote:
Yes, but it looks ugly. Tongue and groove *always* looks neater. I
loathe shiplap. Always looks shoddy to me.
MM
wrote:
loathe shiplap. Always looks shoddy to me.
MM
Onetap
Feb 17, 2012, 5:29:42 AM2/17/12
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On Feb 17, 10:12 am, MM <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:43:04 -0800 (PST), harry <haroldhr...@aol.com>
The profile is intended to shed the water. T&G allows the water to
soak into the groove, it's not intended for external use.
Shiplap looks fine to me.
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:43:04 -0800 (PST), harry <haroldhr...@aol.com>
soak into the groove, it's not intended for external use.
Shiplap looks fine to me.
TMC
Feb 17, 2012, 5:49:40 AM2/17/12
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"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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several vertical timbers to best support the roof it would not make sense to
fit the cladding vertically as there would only be top and bottom fixing
Extra horizontal timbers to fix vertical boards to would just be a waste of
timber and time
Re your earlier reply shiplap is tongue and groove but with a scalloped
profile from the tongue edge rather than a V groove
I have built the occasional 'strong' shed by cladding frame with OSB sheet
first and then thin v groove t&g on top (mainly because i had access to some
free sheets of pre used OSB at the time but had to buy the cladding)
Regards
Regards
TMC
Feb 17, 2012, 6:35:09 AM2/17/12
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"Onetap" <One...@talk21.com> wrote in message
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so these have got wrong then?
http://www.silvatimber.co.uk/cladding/western-red-cedar-tongue-groove/western-red-cedar-select-tight-knot-tongue-groove-v-joint-cladding-19-x-137mm.html
What did you really mean to say?
The Natural Philosopher
Feb 17, 2012, 6:43:26 AM2/17/12
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flats. After 8 years it looks derelict already.
Horizontal is the way to go for sure.
Onetap
Feb 17, 2012, 7:01:49 AM2/17/12
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> http://www.silvatimber.co.uk/cladding/western-red-cedar-tongue-groove...
straight into the centre of the boards. The supplier's glossy brochure
picture is no guarantee of intelligent design. That's what I meant.
I wouldn't use that profile.
>
> What did you really mean to say?
IMHO they have got it wrong. Capilliary action will help draw water
> What did you really mean to say?
straight into the centre of the boards. The supplier's glossy brochure
picture is no guarantee of intelligent design. That's what I meant.
I wouldn't use that profile.
Tim Watts
Feb 17, 2012, 7:15:02 AM2/17/12
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so the issue os fairly moot AFAICS.
--
Tim Watts
The Natural Philosopher
Feb 17, 2012, 7:54:01 AM2/17/12
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If you had lived around as many shiplap, feather edge and lord knows
what else barns, sheds and buildings as long as I have you would know
that these boards do not rot from the tongues or grooves in the middle
of the wall: They rot at the base of the wall where they stay damp for
long periods and grass and plants stop air circulating and sunlight
reaching them.
wet timbper swells and seals anyway.
The Natural Philosopher
Feb 17, 2012, 7:56:15 AM2/17/12
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The condition for rot is PERMANENT dampness. Not a rain shower.
That sadly happens as dirt dust and organic detritus and mosses build up.
Not when it rains occasionally.
TMC
Feb 17, 2012, 8:25:28 AM2/17/12
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reclaimed from alterations to the offices in the engineering factory where
he worked.
Using these and some 3 x 2 timbers reclaimed from the partition walls we
built a garden shed 12 x 8
guess what
Yep it is still there not rotted and still in use
All we have done is re felted the roof
Oh and moved it up the garden when he sold the bottom bit
That was fun sheets of exterior ply and scaffold pole rollers tree winch and
rope
Regards
MM
Feb 17, 2012, 8:49:39 AM2/17/12
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better/neater than shiplap.
MM
MM
Feb 17, 2012, 8:54:35 AM2/17/12
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requirements works out cheaper that a ready-made shed? Yes, one can
get a cheapo shed off Amazon, but the comments usually only give them
1 star. Contrast that to my local timber yard to see the shed prices:
http://www.hallgate-timber.co.uk/shedslincolnshire.htm
e.g. shiplap 8' x 6' £339, log lap £419
Whereas I reckon I can get a *lot* of 5/8" tongue and groove for, say,
£200.
MM
Ian Jackson
Feb 17, 2012, 11:04:08 AM2/17/12
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In message <jmmsj7p4cha9iag35...@4ax.com>, MM
<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
Almost certainly it's a bit of swings and roundabouts. Shiplap probably
drains well. With T&G, even with tongues up, there may be some tendency
for water to creep into - and be retained in - the join. However, it's
probably a somewhat more draught-proof. Either way, it's probably a good
idea to slosh (or squirt) a bit of wood preservative on it when the
spirit moves you.
--
Ian
<kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
drains well. With T&G, even with tongues up, there may be some tendency
for water to creep into - and be retained in - the join. However, it's
probably a somewhat more draught-proof. Either way, it's probably a good
idea to slosh (or squirt) a bit of wood preservative on it when the
spirit moves you.
--
Ian
MM
Feb 17, 2012, 12:09:46 PM2/17/12
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timberwork I construct. The other, new-fangled stuff just seems to sit
on the surface.
MM
TMC
Feb 17, 2012, 12:33:55 PM2/17/12
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Normally building your own would be cheaper if you can get the materials at
'trade price' or cheaper rather that from the diy thieves
Its a bit of a time versus cost question
The most recent shed I put up a 10 x 10 apex with double doors 2 opening and
2 fixed windows cost about 900ukp delivered but took only an hour to erect.
Even the doors and windows were ready hung in the frames
Set that against the time to draw up, create cutting list, work out
quantities, price up and collect or order for delivery,
buy felt, door and window furniture and fixings,
build the frames 1 floor 2 sides (one with windows) 2 gable ends (one with
door frame) 2 roof panels and clad (I have a chop saw but no nail gun)
Then assemble
Knock up a couple of ledge and brace doors and a couple of opening windows,
hang these.
And as I would have built the whole lot on site because of the size needing
a couple of days of good weather
Buying was the best option for me as I lots of other work to do
'trade price' or cheaper rather that from the diy thieves
Its a bit of a time versus cost question
The most recent shed I put up a 10 x 10 apex with double doors 2 opening and
2 fixed windows cost about 900ukp delivered but took only an hour to erect.
Even the doors and windows were ready hung in the frames
Set that against the time to draw up, create cutting list, work out
quantities, price up and collect or order for delivery,
buy felt, door and window furniture and fixings,
build the frames 1 floor 2 sides (one with windows) 2 gable ends (one with
door frame) 2 roof panels and clad (I have a chop saw but no nail gun)
Then assemble
Knock up a couple of ledge and brace doors and a couple of opening windows,
hang these.
And as I would have built the whole lot on site because of the size needing
a couple of days of good weather
Buying was the best option for me as I lots of other work to do
Onetap
Feb 17, 2012, 3:00:55 PM2/17/12
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On Feb 17, 12:54 pm, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Where did I spout nonsense?
I wouldn't use it, I've given my reasons, that's my opinion. You may
have different opinions.
wrote:
> Onetap wrote:
> > IMHO they have got it wrong. Capilliary action will help draw water
> > straight into the centre of the boards. The supplier's glossy brochure
> > picture is no guarantee of intelligent design. That's what I meant.
>
> > I wouldn't use that profile.
>
> well once again spouting nonsense is no guarantee of intelligence or design.
Deary me. TNP got PMT?
> > IMHO they have got it wrong. Capilliary action will help draw water
> > straight into the centre of the boards. The supplier's glossy brochure
> > picture is no guarantee of intelligent design. That's what I meant.
>
> > I wouldn't use that profile.
>
> well once again spouting nonsense is no guarantee of intelligence or design.
Where did I spout nonsense?
I wouldn't use it, I've given my reasons, that's my opinion. You may
have different opinions.
Adam Funk
Feb 17, 2012, 4:17:56 PM2/17/12
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On 2012-02-17, Onetap wrote:
> On Feb 17, 10:12 am, MM <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Yes, but it looks ugly. Tongue and groove *always* looks neater. I
>> loathe shiplap. Always looks shoddy to me.
> On Feb 17, 10:12 am, MM <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Yes, but it looks ugly. Tongue and groove *always* looks neater. I
>> loathe shiplap. Always looks shoddy to me.
> The profile is intended to shed the water. T&G allows the water to
> soak into the groove, it's not intended for external use.
> Shiplap looks fine to me.
I guess the point is that shiplap "looks like somebody's shed".
> soak into the groove, it's not intended for external use.
> Shiplap looks fine to me.
;-)
Onetap
Feb 17, 2012, 4:34:18 PM2/17/12
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On Feb 17, 9:17 pm, Adam Funk <a240...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> I guess the point is that shiplap "looks like somebody's shed".
>
> ;-)
Oh I see. He wants to build a shed from T&G so it doesn't look like a
> I guess the point is that shiplap "looks like somebody's shed".
>
> ;-)
shed. A stealth shed.
Got it now, silly me.
MM
Feb 18, 2012, 4:53:28 AM2/18/12
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:17:56 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
wrote:
Actually, it reminds me of Hastings Old Town, where the boats are all
pulled up on to the shingle beach ("The Stade"). They all look like
they've been constructed from shiplap.
MM
wrote:
pulled up on to the shingle beach ("The Stade"). They all look like
they've been constructed from shiplap.
MM
MM
Feb 18, 2012, 4:54:56 AM2/18/12
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:34:18 -0800 (PST), Onetap <One...@talk21.com>
wrote:
No, I want to build a shed from T&G that looks nice. This can't be
achieved with shiplap. Shiplap may be fine for a rustic timber cabin
in the woods where hunters stay the night, but not for a garden shed.
MM
wrote:
achieved with shiplap. Shiplap may be fine for a rustic timber cabin
in the woods where hunters stay the night, but not for a garden shed.
MM
MM
Feb 18, 2012, 4:56:42 AM2/18/12
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and nearly all the ready-mades come with at least one.
MM
Bolted
Feb 18, 2012, 5:55:45 AM2/18/12
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Shiplap isn't my favourite look, but it isn't all that rustic.
Shiplap: http://www.vastern.co.uk/tc-shiplap.html
Bill Wright
Feb 18, 2012, 6:36:44 AM2/18/12
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MM wrote:
> I'm retired so I've got all day, every day! Also, I don't want windows
> and nearly all the ready-mades come with at least one.
Ready made sheds are usually terrible.
> I'm retired so I've got all day, every day! Also, I don't want windows
> and nearly all the ready-mades come with at least one.
Here's a shed my dad made completely from scratch. He was 90 at the time.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed%20for%20invite%202.jpg
Bill
Tim Watts
Feb 18, 2012, 7:27:59 AM2/18/12
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--
Tim Watts
Andy Burns
Feb 18, 2012, 7:38:18 AM2/18/12
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Bill Wright wrote:
> Here's a shed my dad made completely from scratch.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed%20for%20invite%202.jpg
> Here's a shed my dad made completely from scratch.
The plans for "shed for invite 1" makes construction look a bit tricky!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed_for_invite_1.jpg
Bill Wright
Feb 18, 2012, 8:41:40 AM2/18/12
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Albert%204.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Albert%205.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Shed%20project%2C%20Albert%201.jpg
He's 93 now and I'm writing this to sound of the mortice holes being
chopped out for a stool he's knocking up.
Bill
gri...@gmail.com
Feb 18, 2012, 9:09:13 AM2/18/12
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:41:40 +0000, Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com>
wrote:
>More pics.
>
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Albert%204.jpg
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Albert%205.jpg
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Shed%20project%2C%20Albert%201.jpg
That is fucking impressive.
wrote:
>More pics.
>
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Albert%204.jpg
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Albert%205.jpg
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Shed%20project%2C%20Albert%201.jpg
MuddyMike
Feb 18, 2012, 10:29:53 AM2/18/12
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I agree vertical T&G is the best cladding, see
http://share.ovi.com/album/Muddymike.Workshop
For how I did it.
Mike
http://share.ovi.com/album/Muddymike.Workshop
For how I did it.
Mike
MuddyMike
Feb 18, 2012, 10:27:00 AM2/18/12
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Mike
MuddyMike
Feb 18, 2012, 10:50:41 AM2/18/12
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MM
Feb 18, 2012, 12:22:21 PM2/18/12
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http://www.gardenbuildingsdirect.co.uk/images/products/11522/17691/17691n.jpg
I prefer the look of tongue and groove boards.
MM
MM
Feb 18, 2012, 12:23:56 PM2/18/12
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MM
MM
Feb 18, 2012, 12:25:18 PM2/18/12
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:36:44 +0000, Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com>
wrote:
That is one darned fine looking piece of work at any age, but for a
90-year-old it's just amazing.
MM
wrote:
90-year-old it's just amazing.
MM
MM
Feb 18, 2012, 12:27:09 PM2/18/12
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:41:40 +0000, Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com>
wrote:
Bloody hell!! I didn't realise your Dad's still with us! Jolly good.
Tell him from me, a mere 65-year-old, that I take my hat off to him
and his work.
MM
wrote:
Tell him from me, a mere 65-year-old, that I take my hat off to him
and his work.
MM
dennis@home
Feb 18, 2012, 1:52:31 PM2/18/12
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> I'm thinking of this kind of thing:
> http://www.gardenbuildingsdirect.co.uk/images/products/11522/17691/17691n.jpg
>
That is not shiplap.
> I prefer the look of tongue and groove boards.
Shiplap is a type of tongue and groove.
It just has a profile better suited to weather.
> I'm thinking of this kind of thing:
> http://www.gardenbuildingsdirect.co.uk/images/products/11522/17691/17691n.jpg
>
> I prefer the look of tongue and groove boards.
It just has a profile better suited to weather.
dennis@home
Feb 18, 2012, 1:55:23 PM2/18/12
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But that's shiplap and he hates shiplap.
>
> Bill
>
> Bill
dennis@home
Feb 18, 2012, 1:58:33 PM2/18/12
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> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Shed%20project%2C%20Albert%201.jpg
What is holding the earth up?
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/shed/Shed%20project%2C%20Albert%201.jpg
What is holding the earth up?
Adam Funk
Feb 18, 2012, 5:25:06 PM2/18/12
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Bolted
Feb 18, 2012, 6:13:23 PM2/18/12
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The link is a bit fucked, but as much of the pic that shows for me is
a weatherboard/featheredge shed, which is much more rustic than
shiplap.
Bill Wright
Feb 19, 2012, 7:09:47 PM2/19/12
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MM wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of this kind of thing:
> http://www.gardenbuildingsdirect.co.uk/images/products/11522/17691/17691n.jpg
Bloody terrible! How do you get the mower in and out? And those loose
>
> I'm thinking of this kind of thing:
> http://www.gardenbuildingsdirect.co.uk/images/products/11522/17691/17691n.jpg
stones forming the base are going to move. And how do you make those
doors burglar proof?
Bill
Bill Wright
Feb 19, 2012, 7:09:50 PM2/19/12
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moment because he's found some one-cup tea bags in the pound shop for
99p, and seen exactly the same product in Asda for £2.49.
Bill
The Medway Handyman
Feb 19, 2012, 7:54:08 PM2/19/12
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On 17/02/2012 07:43, harry wrote:
> On Feb 16, 9:52 pm, newshound<newsho...@fairadsl.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 16/02/2012 20:16, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> With the boards horizontal, and the grooves downward, the rain may be
>>> more likely to run down from board to board.
>>
>> That's how my (commercial) stable is built. However I built my shed with
>> horizontal sawn and treated feather edge (much cheaper) and that has
>> been fine.
>
>
> +1
> Feather edge is by far the best way to go. Price, appearance and ease
> of construction. Also if there is expansion. shrinkage, it matters
> not.
> Easy to replace a plank if it became necessary too.
>
> There are various sizes/thicknesses.
I'd agree. As long as you have a decent overlap F/E is the best long
> On Feb 16, 9:52 pm, newshound<newsho...@fairadsl.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 16/02/2012 20:16, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> With the boards horizontal, and the grooves downward, the rain may be
>>> more likely to run down from board to board.
>>
>> That's how my (commercial) stable is built. However I built my shed with
>> horizontal sawn and treated feather edge (much cheaper) and that has
>> been fine.
>
>
> +1
> Feather edge is by far the best way to go. Price, appearance and ease
> of construction. Also if there is expansion. shrinkage, it matters
> not.
> Easy to replace a plank if it became necessary too.
>
> There are various sizes/thicknesses.
term solution.
Shrinkage will bugger the joints on T&G and replacement is a PITA.
--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
MM
Feb 20, 2012, 5:07:47 AM2/20/12
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:09:47 +0000, Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com>
wrote:
>MM wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm thinking of this kind of thing:
>> http://www.gardenbuildingsdirect.co.uk/images/products/11522/17691/17691n.jpg
>
>Bloody terrible! How do you get the mower in and out?
Er, you OPEN the door, then you LINE UP the mower and aim for the
doorway, then you PUSH the mower over the threshold and, bingo! You've
got it in!
> And those loose
>stones forming the base are going to move.
If it might be a problem, brush some dry-ish sand/cement mixture
between the joints.
> And how do you make those
>doors burglar proof?
You erect a sign saying "Large Dog Kennel".
MM
wrote:
>MM wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm thinking of this kind of thing:
>> http://www.gardenbuildingsdirect.co.uk/images/products/11522/17691/17691n.jpg
>
>Bloody terrible! How do you get the mower in and out?
doorway, then you PUSH the mower over the threshold and, bingo! You've
got it in!
> And those loose
>stones forming the base are going to move.
between the joints.
> And how do you make those
>doors burglar proof?
MM
MM
Feb 20, 2012, 5:10:09 AM2/20/12
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:54:08 +0000, The Medway Handyman
<davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Shrinkage will bugger the joints on T&G and replacement is a PITA.
No problem with my dad's poultry houses, even after ten years.
<davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Shrinkage will bugger the joints on T&G and replacement is a PITA.
MM
dennis@home
Feb 20, 2012, 5:44:20 AM2/20/12
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I replaced my shiplap shed last year, it was 20 years old and had no
problems with the joints.
It was made with 16 foot long boards and no joints along the sides.
It had to go, the rats kept chewing through, so far they haven't got into
the concrete replacement.
problems with the joints.
It was made with 16 foot long boards and no joints along the sides.
It had to go, the rats kept chewing through, so far they haven't got into
the concrete replacement.
Owain
Feb 20, 2012, 5:59:55 AM2/20/12
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On Feb 20, 12:09 am, Bill Wright wrote:
> I'll tell him you said that. He's in a highly triumphant mood at the
> moment because he's found some one-cup tea bags in the pound shop for
> 99p
Now that *is* a bargain. Something in the pound shop for less than a
> I'll tell him you said that. He's in a highly triumphant mood at the
> moment because he's found some one-cup tea bags in the pound shop for
> 99p
pound.
> and seen exactly the same product in Asda for £2.49.
Owain
Steve Firth
Feb 20, 2012, 8:10:57 AM2/20/12
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Bill Wright
Feb 20, 2012, 12:36:01 PM2/20/12
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Steve Firth wrote:
>> I'll tell him you said that. He's in a highly triumphant mood at the
>> moment because he's found some one-cup tea bags in the pound shop for
>> 99p, and seen exactly the same product in Asda for £2.49.
>
> I hope he enjoys the tea bags that were stored with the soap and paraffin.
No, they seem to be OK.
>> I'll tell him you said that. He's in a highly triumphant mood at the
>> moment because he's found some one-cup tea bags in the pound shop for
>> 99p, and seen exactly the same product in Asda for £2.49.
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> I hope he enjoys the tea bags that were stored with the soap and paraffin.
Bill
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