Asterite for kitchen sink, any good?
jid
I'm thinking of getting a kitchen sink made out of stuff called
Asterite from a company called Astracast. It comes with a ten year
guarantee and the manufacturers claim it's jolly good. I'd be
interested in knowing whether it resists chipping, and given that
we're going for white, how does it stand up to staining?
All the best, Jon
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Peter Parry
j...@NOSPAM.chevalier.NOSPAM.demon.co.uk (jid) wrote:
>I'm thinking of getting a kitchen sink made out of stuff called
>Asterite from a company called Astracast. It comes with a ten year
>guarantee and the manufacturers claim it's jolly good. I'd be
>interested in knowing whether it resists chipping, and given that
>we're going for white, how does it stand up to staining?
If you live in a hard water area it stains within minutes, it
attracts calcium carbonate deposits like no ones business and they
pick up everything within sight especially tea, coffee etc.
It is true that the Asterite doesn't stain. Unfortunately the
deposits on it do (as they will tell you afterwards when you try to
get your money back on their 10 yr guarantee which somehow doesn't
cover this). If you have shares in companies manufacturing citric
acid or other acidic deposit removers as well as bleach suppliers you
will do well.
Chipping - its fairly impervious, hot pans will distort it (but they
do really have to be very hot).
Having had one I wouldn't have another.
--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk
jid
Any other material you'd suggest?
Is there anything other than stainless steel -my wife thinks it looks
too 'institutional'.
All the best, Jon
PS Would love to hear some other peoples' experiences with Asterlite
or Avrelle.
JHallam
problems with chipping but then again I can't recall any heavy objects
getting dropped on it. Because it's brown it clearly shows up all the
deposits once any water on the drainer has dried. I'm also in the habit of
occasionally pouring some neat bleach down the plug hole and I always have
to be really careful that I don't miss because the surface can (and has)
become bleached. I remember the do's and don'ts in the flyer that came with
the sink..... there were about two do's (including clean stains with a soft
cloth and warm water) and about a dozen don'ts (like don't use abrasive
cleaners, don't leave pots hotter than 180 deg on the sink, don't use any of
the following on your sink....strong detergents, kettle descaler,
aftershave, nail varnish, caustic soda, alcohol.....Bearing in mind that
water also leaves its residue the only way to keep it looking good appears
to be not to use it. They did however mention a cleaning solution called
Asterkleen, I got hold of a bottle once.....I think I had to get it from the
manufacturer....I was expecting this stuff to bring the sink back gleaming.
I followed the instructions but I couldn't notice any difference, so I
didn't bother to send off for anymore.
I would have to think twice before going for another one.
Steve L.
jid wrote in message <384043c...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>Hi,
>I'm thinking of getting a kitchen sink made out of stuff called
>Asterite from a company called Astracast.
I have a granitex one (similar material?) in the lounge. How do these fare,
or do I sell it before it gets into the new kitchen fairly soon :~)
Andrew
<st...@m1bjr.freeserve.co.uk> writes
being made again. I saw one in a fitted kitchen display at one of
the sheds recently. Back in my days of being a hospital lab
technician we had these installed everywhere, fitted into
teak or mahogany benches. The sinks were impervious to most of
the nasty stuff that got poured down then.
<Aside> .. then during the early '70's some well-meaning
know-alls got obsessed with Hepatitis'B' and up and down the country,
all these hardwood bench tops were ripped out and replaced with
Formica covered block board so that the work surfaces could be
swabbed with Glutaraldehyde. Sacrilege .
--
Andrew
Paul Mc Cann
and...@skydata.demon.co.uk says...
Where they had chipped and exposed the underlying material was the best
place for removing the tell tale signs of nicotine from the finger tips.
--
Paul Mc Cann
a.guz...@virgin.net
<and...@skydata.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <81r4r6$k6i$2...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Steve L.
><st...@m1bjr.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>
>>jid wrote in message <384043c...@news.demon.co.uk>...
[snip]
>>
>I believe that 'Belfast' (is that correct) china/porcelain sinks are
>being made again. I saw one in a fitted kitchen display at one of
>the sheds recently.
They are indeed available from quite a few places, as are ceramic
conventional sink/drainers and twin sink/drainers. MFI even has them
(by Armitage)
These links may be useful.
http://www.villagers-collection.co.uk/index.html
http://www.sinks.co.uk/
The latter is particularly interesting as it goes into the history
behind Belfast sinks and also into some detail about how they are
made. They have several models including a 'French Farmhouse' range.
Also Lansdowne ceramic sinks are stocked by Elon Ltd, brochure line
0181 9323063 This from an ad in one of the home design mags.
I've no experience of ceramic sinks but I'm considering putting one in
my soon-to-be-rebuilt kitchen.
I have no connection with any of these firms, nor experience of them.
Just stuff I've pulled from the web.
HTH
Dave
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Dave Liquorice
> I believe that 'Belfast' (is that correct) china/porcelain sinks are
> being made again.
Well they are fairly easyly available so I guess they must be. It's also a
fashion thing to have one with the hardwood drainers and so on. Personally a
sink is no goo if you have to think even a tiny bit about what you throw in
it. Porcelain is pretty good but drop anything heavy into it...
Stainless steel is the only real material for a sink.
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Matthew Marks
j...@NOSPAM.chevalier.NOSPAM.demon.co.uk (jid) writes:
> Is there anything other than stainless steel -my wife thinks it looks
> too 'institutional'.
Tell her to get over it and not to get carried away with silly fashions
(like Belfast sinks) that make a mockery of the practical nature necessary of
a kitchen. She will soon regret spending all her waking hours cleaning it -
or you will :-)
--
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Matthew Marks
"JHallam" <john....@virgin.net> writes:
> I'm also in the habit of
> occasionally pouring some neat bleach down the plug hole
Why? Unless there is a blockage or an unpleasant smell, all you are doing is
damaging the environment. Bleach advertisers are masters of scaremonger.
Matthew Marks
Andrew <and...@skydata.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I believe that 'Belfast' (is that correct) china/porcelain sinks are
> being made again.
Yes, it's the fashion...
> Back in my days of being a hospital lab
> technician we had these installed everywhere, fitted into
> teak or mahogany benches. The sinks were impervious to most of
> the nasty stuff that got poured down then.
But if there is a risk of this sort of use in a *kitchen*, I wouldn't be very
keen to sample what is cooked in there...!
Charles (Joe) Stahelin
<john....@virgin.net> writes
>I'm also in the habit of
>occasionally pouring some neat bleach down the plug hole
How on earth did you survive in between the 'occasions' ? If there is
no need for the stuff as part of routine cleaning what does occasional
use achieve?
I was glad to see Matthew's comment in another article. Bleach, fancy
perfumed disinfectants and anti-bacterial treatments sold on the high
street for day-to-day use are usually of value only as reinforcements to
proper cleaning methods in times of special risk. Often they may be
little more than money in the pocket of the manufacturer as the efficacy
of most of them in the face of inadequate basic cleaning can be zero, or
close to it: they are not very highly concentrated in terms of effective
anti-bacterial content and are susceptible to being exhausted before
dealing with all the problems they encounter. In any event it is
better to smell putrefaction if it is present than to have it masked
(but possibly not eradicated) by some pretty smelling concoction which
costs you extra and may give you an unwarranted sense of security.
Drains are designed to accept muck. Why pour strong chemicals down them
if and when the drains do the job for which they are intended ? If they
smell the probable cause is deposits of solids above the normal water
level: these normally respond to physical abrasion.
I wonder what I have started with this ? Having banned the routine use
of both bleach and disinfectant during my seven year stay at a 350 bed
residential establishment after discovering the extent of their use, the
tendency of cleaning staff to mix the two for added effect (!), and the
consequential and avoidable cost of replacing domestic staff equipment
sentenced to death by excessive use of bleach, I have reasonable
grounds for my comments. The same policy was carried forward to my next
post which lasted for eleven years and at no time have I had reason to
reconsider it.
--
Charles (Joe) Stahelin,
Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK.
Inge Cubitt
Is bleach really environmentally harmful? I thought it was relatively
benign?
Inge
Charles (Joe) Stahelin
Cubitt <in...@icubitt.cix.co.uk> writes
>Is bleach really environmentally harmful? I thought it was relatively
>benign?
My guess is that it knocks out a proportion of useful bacteria in the
sewage disposal chain.
Dave Liquorice
> Is bleach really environmentally harmful? I thought it was relatively
> benign?
A chlorine based bleach can't be that good for the enviroment. Oxygen based
are probably better.
Stuart Noble
>> benign?
Sainsbury's did an environmentally friendly, chlorine free, bleach (peroxide
presumably) a few years back, but they'd abandoned it next time I looked,
presumably because of safety. By today's nanny standards, I'd say peroxide
was far too dangerous to be on public sale.
The slightest contamination with alkali causes the container to swell to the
point of bursting. With the 2 pack woodworking bleach this can come about
from just using the same brush for both parts. It reacts in this way (i.e.
explosively) with many common chemicals, and a rag soaked in it and screwed
up can create enough heat to catch fire.
Also, because these reactions are gradual, you wouldn't suspect anything was
wrong.
Dr Bilge
Charles (Joe) Stahelin <j...@stahelin.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:zXXDzKA1...@stahelin.demon.co.uk...
> In article <memo.19991130...@inge.dibble.dobble.uk>, Inge
> Cubitt <in...@icubitt.cix.co.uk> writes
> >benign?
>
> sewage disposal chain.
Not a big problem per se, actually. The volumes of domestic bleach are
easily diluted by normal waste. We have far greater problems from
industrial chemicals that are illegally released that "inhibit" the
bacterial processes at our works (phenols, heavy metals, toluene and similar
solvents, certain organics).
However, you are quite right about the problems of over-use of bleach in
domestic situations, and from an environmental persepctive the use of
disinfectants is over done, so cutting down is less of a problem.
Going back to "asterite-a-like" sinks, I find it far better than stainless
steel (as some said it scratches like buggery and is noisy as hell). Rather
than spending your life trying to remove stains from it, its better to buy a
middling colour which doesn't show the muck as readily, and then clean it
less frequently than you would need to if it were a dark colour or white.
Even if you have a SS sink you still have to scrub off tannin and fat
deposits, so there ain't no easy route.
Bilge
john_h_schmitt
Stahelin" <j...@stahelin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Is bleach really environmentally harmful? I thought it was
> relatively
> >benign?
> My guess is that it knocks out a proportion of useful bacteria in
> the
> sewage disposal chain.
By a strange coincidence, I visited a sewage treatment works yesterday.
I did ask the ops manager about what problem materials he has to deal
with, and he said grit (off roads), chemical spills, (rare) unexpected
foreign bodies, (furniture, animals wood), rags, (a skipful about every
other day) and q-tips, which bung up the filters. The bacteria are in
sufficient numbers to activate and ferment, and only rarely does he
have to divert sevage, as it can take days to restart the beds. By and
large the quantity and nature of the sewage will buffer out any
reasonable amount of acid, alkali, oxidant or reducing agent. As for
the sewer bores, the biggest problem is solidified cooking fat.
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Tony Polson
in...@icubitt.cix.co.uk (Inge Cubitt) wrote:
>Is bleach really environmentally harmful? I thought it was relatively
>benign?
Use of chlorine-based bleach generates dioxins, which are some of the
most toxic chemicals known to mankind. The problem is that millions of
people use bleach, sometimes daily, and this results in a gradual
build-up in the environment over time. Dioxins also result from
industrial processes but the problem of domestic use may be greater as
so many people use it.
Dioxins are also the reason why you are recommended to leave bleach in
toilet pans, sink, basin and bath traps for no more than 20 minutes
before flushing it away. Presumably the dilution reduces the production
of dioxins, otherwise the only "benefit" of doing this would be to shift
the problem out of your home and into the general environment.
--
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
Paul Mc Cann
a...@aands.freeserve.co.ewekay says...
snip
>
> Going back to "asterite-a-like" sinks, I find it far better than stainless
> steel (as some said it scratches like buggery and is noisy as hell).
>
But then like all things in life there are stainless steel sinks and
there are stainless steel sinks, and there is nothing in this world that
somebody cannot make cheaper and worse.
The cheap ones from B&Q can be dreadful. Noisy and easily distorted.
SWMBO knew what to specify for the utility room when it was being kitted
out.
None of those problems there. (The kitchen had to have some white Franke
(?) thing installed which does seem to be very serviceable.(Incidentally
just what is the point in a 1/2 bowl ? )
--
Paul Mc Cann
Charles (Joe) Stahelin
<tp...@iol.ie> writes
>But then like all things in life there are stainless steel sinks and
>there are stainless steel sinks, and there is nothing in this world that
>somebody cannot make cheaper and worse.
If I had the pennies and the situation I would have good quality
stainless steel work tops, storage, sinks fitted splashbacks, upstands
and the rest. It may not be over beautiful and certainly does not look
like chrome but you can see what is what and it is the easiest of
materials to keep safe and hygienically clean.
>The cheap ones from B&Q can be dreadful. Noisy and easily distorted.
>SWMBO knew what to specify for the utility room when it was being kitted
>out.
>None of those problems there. (The kitchen had to have some white Franke
>(?) thing installed which does seem to be very serviceable.
>(Incidentally >just what is the point in a 1/2 bowl ? )
In my view - none.
T.Dean
Cann) wrote:
.(Incidentally
>
To wash the food in whilst the bowl is kinda full.
tim
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new...@nexus.demon.co.uk says...
> On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:35:43 GMT, Paul Mc Cann wrote:
>
> > (Incidentally just what is the point in a 1/2 bowl ? )
>
Have that
> 2) Somewhere to rinse the cutlery.
Dishwasher
> 3) Somewhere to wash your hands when the sink is full.
Not when SWMBO is around
>
>
I really meant what was the point of it in preference to a double bowl
(All else being equal).
I still think it's just a fashion statement.
--
Paul Mc Cann
Dave Liquorice
> I really meant what was the point of it in preference to a double bowl
> (All else being equal).
Lack of room for a double bowl. SHWMBO didn't like 1/2 bowls either until we
moved in here now I think the new kitchen will have one. A double bowl would
be nice but it's going to be a tight squeeze as it is.
Charles (Joe) Stahelin
>, Dave Liquorice <new...@nexus.demon.co.uk> writes
>Lack of room for a double bowl. SHWMBO didn't like 1/2 bowls either until we
>moved in here now I think the new kitchen will have one. A double bowl would
>be nice but it's going to be a tight squeeze as it is.
If you go to a specialist supplier of sinks, or to a stainless steel
fabricator, you should be able to get a sink very close to your
particular requirements.
Consider having a deeper than standard bowl. Provided the drainage
connection can be arranged this does not prevent the fitting of a waste
disposal unit, or of a second bowl of whatever size is wanted or can be
fitted in.
Have a look at "Joe's Kitchen" published with the uk.d-i-y FAQ if you
want some thoughts about design and layout.
John Armstrong
<a...@aands.freeserve.co.ewekay> wrote:
>Going back to "asterite-a-like" sinks, I find it far better than stainless
>than spending your life trying to remove stains from it, its better to buy a
>middling colour which doesn't show the muck as readily, and then clean it
>less frequently than you would need to if it were a dark colour or white.
No real problem of staining of mine. The annoying thing is that the
surface finish to most of the horizontal bits is a slightly roughened
texture, presumably for grip. Unfortunately this is where the dirty
water tends to stand and dry out, leaving the dirt behind in the
texture. Scrubbing with Jif or similar usually gets it reasonably
clean but the smooth bits just wipe clean with no problem.
--
John
Mike Barnes
>(Incidentally
>just what is the point in a 1/2 bowl ? )
Easy draining of rice, pasta, etc. A normal kitchen strainer fits
neatly onto the rim and stays put.
Also washing small quantities of fruit and veg uses less water.
--
Mike Barnes
Andy Woodward
Since finding out that the water companies make 40% profit on sales in the UK
compared to 3% in the EEC and 1% in the USA (BBC figures), I no longer see
this as a problem.........I figure I've paid in advance for the use of 15times
as much water as the average EEC citizen and 40times as much as a USA citizen.
a.guz...@virgin.net
wrote:
Careful - being a subject close to my heart you just might send me off
on one! :-)
Your sentiments about Water Company profits I share. Unfortunately the
privatisation of the water companies and debate over their subsequent
profits tends to overshadow another important factor. Water is not an
infinite resource.
I see you're in Aberystwyth so water shortages are not really a
problem for you, but in many parts of the UK it is different. Here in
East Anglia, for example, the climate is semi-arid.
Domestic water consumption rose by around 60 percent during the
1980's, due largely to the proliferation of dish washers and the
every-day use of high flow showers. We didn't get a 60 percent
increase in rainwater storage.
As a fluvial geomorphologist working in the field of river
rehabilitation, I contantly see the problems that are caused by over
abstraction from rivers and aquifer.
Here in E. Anglia, particularly, but also elsewhere, the
indiscriminate use and wastage of fresh water is IMO highly
irresponsible. That's why I agree in principle with the concept of
water meters, _provided_ that a suitably fair pricing structure is
used. Unfortunately it is seen by many as simply a way of making
greater profits for the water companies. I confess to being rather
cynical with regard to their motives, too. I would also agree that
large profits by the water companies don't encourage water
conservation, especially considering the high leakage rates which some
companies have.
Since you mention the USA - many parts of the States have very severe
water resource problems because they quite simply use far more than is
replaced through rainfall. As a consequence they have to mine water
from deeper and deeper aquifer at greater financial and environmental
cost. Some US cities are actually buying up rural land in order to
exploit the aquifer beneath them, although this just lowers the water
table everywhere else and causes a lot of friction.
Watch out for water (rather than oil) as a major cause of national and
international dispute and military conflict in the next few years.
Particularly Libya/Egypt and Turkey/Syria and everyone else downstream
on the Euphrates.
So next you wash your spuds, do it in the half bowl, eh? <grin>
</rant>
Roger Chapman
from a...@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) contains these words:
> >Also washing small quantities of fruit and veg uses less water.
>Since finding out that the water companies make 40% profit on sales in
>the UK compared to 3% in the EEC and 1% in the USA (BBC figures), I no
>longer see this as a problem.........I figure I've paid in advance for
>the use of 15times as much water as the average EEC citizen and 40times
>as much as a USA citizen.
Rumour has it that the BBC were not living up to their reputation for
even handed truthfulness on this occasion by not comparing like with
like. They also neglected to mention that a comparison of water costs
would show that we have some of the cheapest water in Europe.
Water companies would much rather people did not economise on water,
it is just politically astute not to say so. The more water they can
sell, the more potential profit there is.
Roger
Richard Yates
Roger Chapman <r.ch...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> The message <82j159$796$1...@dyfi.aber.ac.uk>
> from a...@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) contains these words:
in
> >the UK compared to 3% in the EEC and 1% in the USA (BBC figures)
> Rumour has it that the BBC were not living up to their reputation for
> even handed truthfulness on this occasion by not comparing like with
> like. They also neglected to mention that a comparison of water costs
> would show that we have some of the cheapest water in Europe.
There is no distinct water/sewerage charge in this country either,
is there? (unless you aren't on the public supply).
Richard.
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In uk.d-i-y, Paul Mc Cann <tp...@iol.ie> wrote
>(Incidentally
>just what is the point in a 1/2 bowl ? )
>
water.
Lets you run a tap to fill the kettle with cold water without cooling the
dish water.
Props up paint rollers nearly vertically during rinsing.
Catches potato peel prior to transfer to compost.
Useful drainer for wine bottles on their way to recycling.
.....
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Tony Polson
(aacdehirrsty) <r.j....@open.ac.uk> wrote:
>There is no distinct water/sewerage charge in this country either,
>is there? (unless you aren't on the public supply).
In some parts of the country water supply and sewerage are the
responsibility of different companies. Not only are the two charges
distinct, they are on separate bills from the two different companies.
This is the case in (at least) Mid Sussex and Kent.
Ellen Mizzell
> In article <199912071...@zetnet.co.uk>,
> Roger Chapman <r.ch...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> The message <82j159$796$1...@dyfi.aber.ac.uk>
>> from a...@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) contains these words:
>> >Since finding out that the water companies make 40% profit on sales
> in
>> >the UK compared to 3% in the EEC and 1% in the USA (BBC figures)
>
>> Rumour has it that the BBC were not living up to their reputation for
>> even handed truthfulness on this occasion by not comparing like with
>> like. They also neglected to mention that a comparison of water costs
>> would show that we have some of the cheapest water in Europe.
>
>
> is there? (unless you aren't on the public supply).
>
is billed by Wessex Water. It's the first time I've ever come
across separate charges, though.
--
Ellen Mizzell
Chris French
>
>
>There is no distinct water/sewerage charge in this country either,
>is there? (unless you aren't on the public supply).
>
On a water meter, Yorkshire water charge for sewage at 95% of the water
consumed, the rates for each are also different.
I have heard of a case where the % charged for sewerage was reduced (a
gardener using a lot of water) ISTR that they installed a meter on the
garden supply to prove how much they used.
--
Chris French, Leeds
Dr Bilge
Roger Chapman <r.ch...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:199912071...@zetnet.co.uk...
> Rumour has it that the BBC were not living up to their reputation for
> even handed truthfulness on this occasion by not comparing like with
> like. They also neglected to mention that a comparison of water costs
> would show that we have some of the cheapest water in Europe.
>
True. And we have the highest compliance in Europe, matched only by
Switzerland. But that isn't news worthy so far as shit-head journalists are
concerned.
> Water companies would much rather people did not economise on water,
> it is just politically astute not to say so. The more water they can
> sell, the more potential profit there is.
>
Most water is not metered, so that doesn't hold true. Also the "local
authority jobsworth/public service" ethic is still strong in the water
industry, and people using "too much" water at the wrong times is far too
great a problem to worry the companies. A further point is that the
regulator sets an overall rate of return on the capital employed by the
companies. So if they encouraged more water use AND it generated higher
income, it would simply be clawed back by the regulator.
Bilge
Paul Mc Cann
a double bowl sink. (And my original comment carried the proviso "All
things being equal")
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Matthew Marks
a.guz...@virgin.net writes:
> Domestic water consumption rose by around 60 percent during the
> 1980's, due largely to the proliferation of dish washers
I reckon I use a lot less now I have a dishwasher. I suppose most people
run them when they are quarter full, though. I think getting a washing machine
which uses 49l per cycle has halved the consumption of that appliance, too.
> and the
> every-day use of high flow showers.
I'd certainly agree with that.
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Matthew Marks
Chris French <news...@spennithorne.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I have heard of a case where the % charged for sewerage was reduced (a
> gardener using a lot of water) ISTR that they installed a meter on the
> garden supply to prove how much they used.
Interesting... I have a combined sewer, and I did wonder when I started saving
water from my roof and next door's if I should pay less on the sewerage charge.
But then I reckoned they'd just try to bill me for my past extra use of the
sewer :-)
Matthew Marks
Roger Chapman <r.ch...@zetnet.co.uk> writes:
> Rumour has it that the BBC were not living up to their reputation for
> even handed truthfulness on this occasion by not comparing like with
> like.
Quote possibly :-)
> They also neglected to mention that a comparison of water costs
> would show that we have some of the cheapest water in Europe.
To be fair, when I heard it, this response from the water companies was indeed
mentioned. But then I heard it on the radio, not the TV... :-)
Mike Barnes
>In article <384e5...@news.nwl.ac.uk>, A.Mck...@bgs.ac.uk says...
>>
>> In uk.d-i-y, Paul Mc Cann <tp...@iol.ie> wrote
>> >(Incidentally
>> >just what is the point in a 1/2 bowl ? )
>> >
>> Gives you somewhere to throw the coffee dregs without mucking up the dish
>> water.
>>
>> Lets you run a tap to fill the kettle with cold water without cooling the
>> dish water.
>>
>> Props up paint rollers nearly vertically during rinsing.
>>
>> Catches potato peel prior to transfer to compost.
>>
>> Useful drainer for wine bottles on their way to recycling.
>>
>>
>> .....
>>
>> Andy McKenzie
>>
>>
>>
>Nothing that couldn't be done, and done better, in the full size bowl of
>a double bowl sink.
Done *better*? How?
How, for instance, is a full-size bowl better for propping up a paint
roller or a wine bottle?
--
Mike Barnes
Paul Mc Cann
> In uk.d-i-y, Paul Mc Cann <tp...@iol.ie> wrote
> >In article <384e5...@news.nwl.ac.uk>, A.Mck...@bgs.ac.uk says...
> >>
> >> In uk.d-i-y, Paul Mc Cann <tp...@iol.ie> wrote
> >> >(Incidentally
> >> >just what is the point in a 1/2 bowl ? )
> >> >
> >> Gives you somewhere to throw the coffee dregs without mucking up the dish
> >> water.
> >>
> >> Lets you run a tap to fill the kettle with cold water without cooling the
> >> dish water.
> >>
> >> Props up paint rollers nearly vertically during rinsing.
> >>
> >> Catches potato peel prior to transfer to compost.
> >>
> >> Useful drainer for wine bottles on their way to recycling.
> >>
> >>
> >> .....
> >>
> >> Andy McKenzie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >Nothing that couldn't be done, and done better, in the full size bowl of
> >a double bowl sink.
>
> Done *better*? How?
>
> How, for instance, is a full-size bowl better for propping up a paint
> roller or a wine bottle?
>
>
under the table with the bottle wedged 1/2 way down my throat.
I wouldn't fancy cleaning a roller in a 1/2 bowl considering I usually
manage to saturate everything within a 2 yard radius when I use even a
full size bowl :-(
--
Paul Mc Cann
Robert
<news...@spennithorne.demon.co.uk> writes
>I have heard of a case where the % charged for sewerage was reduced (a
>gardener using a lot of water) ISTR that they installed a meter on the
>garden supply to prove how much they used.
Four years ago I managed to persuade South West Water to reduce my total
metered charges by 15 per cent on the basis that our non return to sewer
water usage was considerably higher than the 5 per cent they allowed.
I used the fact that I had previously negotiated a similar discount on a
commercial property in the area to persuade them. It was, however, an
uphill struggle and the next year they informed me that they had
subsequently made a policy decision that domestic consumers were not
entitled to any additional allowance even if it could be proved that
considerably less than 95 per cent of water used was returned to the
sewer. At GBP1.85 per cu metre for sewerage and 78.8p per cu metre for
water in this part of the world (highest in the country?) any reduction
was worth chasing.
--
Robert
Jo...@btinternet.com
> Hi,
> I'm thinking of getting a kitchen sink made out of stuff called
> Asterite from a company called Astracast. It comes with a ten year
> guarantee and the manufacturers claim it's jolly good. I'd be
> interested in knowing whether it resists chipping, and given that
> we're going for white, how does it stand up to staining?
>
> All the best, Jon
>
> (please remove NOSPAMs if replying by email)
Jon. We have had an Asterite sink for 27 years,does stain with tea etc but an overnight soak with mild bleach soon cures. Cleans easily and would buy another.
NO other problems at all.Hard water- we have to keep scale at bay by wiping dry and descaling regularly all things that have contact with water. If you look after products they last longer.
John King
tabb...@gmail.com
NT
Harry Bloomfield
> overnight soak with mild bleach soon cures. Cleans easily and would buy
> another.
> NO other problems at all.Hard water- we have to keep scale at bay by wiping
> dry and descaling regularly all things that have contact with water. If you
> look after products they last longer.
> John King
would imagine the OP has long since bought their sink and maybe even
worn it out and replaced it again since then - 17 years ago.
--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
Tim+
"oops" or similar? Makes me more convinced that these are just folk on an
IT course somewhere who are required to subscribe and post to a Usenet
group as part of their course work.
Tim
Blanco
"Tim+" <tim.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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with their tail between their legs or even just hang themselves.
