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Andrew Mawson
Dec 20, 2011, 11:30:58 AM12/20/11
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I have a sizable Yew tree that will need to come down to make room for an
extension. It's been suggested that Yew wood is much sort after by the
woodworking fraternity. Any idea of it's worth? Main trunk is perhaps 20"
diam and the is 8 ish foot before it branches, and the braches are
reasonably sizable. It would be nice to be able to offset the felling costs
against the value of the timber. It is rather close to the house and to a
bridge so it's not the easiest tree to bring down.
AWEM
extension. It's been suggested that Yew wood is much sort after by the
woodworking fraternity. Any idea of it's worth? Main trunk is perhaps 20"
diam and the is 8 ish foot before it branches, and the braches are
reasonably sizable. It would be nice to be able to offset the felling costs
against the value of the timber. It is rather close to the house and to a
bridge so it's not the easiest tree to bring down.
AWEM
harry
Dec 20, 2011, 11:48:30 AM12/20/11
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On Dec 20, 4:30 pm, "Andrew Mawson"
It depends on the grain. Ifi t is "burred" (ie lots of little knots)
then they make veneer out of it. If it has no knots, there are quite
a few bowyers about these days. The wood has to be sound and straight
grain.
Most English yew trees have some form of rot in them. Our yew bows of
old came mostly from France.
I have cut a few yew trees down, never found one of any value, ended
up as firewood (excellent).
If it is an easy felling job, a firewood firm may do the job for
nothing.
Note, every part of the tree is very poisonous,especially to grazing
animals.
then they make veneer out of it. If it has no knots, there are quite
a few bowyers about these days. The wood has to be sound and straight
grain.
Most English yew trees have some form of rot in them. Our yew bows of
old came mostly from France.
I have cut a few yew trees down, never found one of any value, ended
up as firewood (excellent).
If it is an easy felling job, a firewood firm may do the job for
nothing.
Note, every part of the tree is very poisonous,especially to grazing
animals.
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 20, 2011, 11:57:44 AM12/20/11
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Id guess a £100 or so. I've seen massive 4ft wide planks going for
several hundred..but not a bare unstripped bole less than 2 ' in diameter.
Sadly the cost is as much in the de barking and band sawing and kilning
or storing as it is in the chain sawing..
> AWEM
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Dec 20, 2011, 1:30:18 PM12/20/11
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As long as its not the one by us, which is 1600 years old.
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Dave Liquorice
Dec 20, 2011, 1:57:02 PM12/20/11
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:30:58 -0000, Andrew Mawson wrote:
> I have a sizable Yew tree that will need to come down to make room for
> an extension.
Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
> I have a sizable Yew tree that will need to come down to make room for
> an extension.
they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
felling is mentioned...
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Dec 20, 2011, 2:05:14 PM12/20/11
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dennis@home
Dec 20, 2011, 2:29:50 PM12/20/11
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>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>> felling is mentioned...
>
> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 20, 2011, 2:46:10 PM12/20/11
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years old..
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 20, 2011, 3:13:31 PM12/20/11
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Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair after a sneeze.
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Dec 20, 2011, 4:02:12 PM12/20/11
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dennis@home
Dec 20, 2011, 4:03:37 PM12/20/11
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evicted a few weeks ago.
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:29:50 -0000, dennis@home
> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
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>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>
>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>
>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>
> If you still have the extension to build, then yes. But once something's
> complete they will usually give post-event permission.
Tell that to the farmer who had to demolish his house or the travellers
> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
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>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>
>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>
>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>
> If you still have the extension to build, then yes. But once something's
> complete they will usually give post-event permission.
evicted a few weeks ago.
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 20, 2011, 5:03:43 PM12/20/11
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Lieutenant Scott
Dec 20, 2011, 5:04:01 PM12/20/11
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:03:37 -0000, dennis@home <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
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> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:29:50 -0000, dennis@home
>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>
>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>
>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>
>> If you still have the extension to build, then yes. But once something's
>> complete they will usually give post-event permission.
>
> Tell that to the farmer who had to demolish his house or the travellers
> evicted a few weeks ago.
I guess I live in a nicer council area.
>
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> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:29:50 -0000, dennis@home
>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>
>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>
>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>
>> If you still have the extension to build, then yes. But once something's
>> complete they will usually give post-event permission.
>
> Tell that to the farmer who had to demolish his house or the travellers
> evicted a few weeks ago.
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dennis@home
Dec 20, 2011, 5:16:35 PM12/20/11
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tree.
Move the house.
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:02:12 -0000, dennis@home
> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
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>> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.v6sxy00vytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>>
>>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>> 20" stem is not a really old or big one. probably no more that 300
>>> years
>>> old..
>>>
>>
>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>
> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the house
> down......
It only takes a few weeks to build a new house, it takes years to grow a new
> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
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>> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.v6sxy00vytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>>
>>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>> 20" stem is not a really old or big one. probably no more that 300
>>> years
>>> old..
>>>
>>
>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>
> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the house
> down......
tree.
Move the house.
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 20, 2011, 7:55:18 PM12/20/11
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:16:35 -0000, dennis@home <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
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> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:02:12 -0000, dennis@home
>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:02:12 -0000, dennis@home
>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>>> 20" stem is not a really old or big one. probably no more that 300
>>>> years
>>>> old..
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>>
>> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the house
>> down......
>
> It only takes a few weeks to build a new house, it takes years to grow a new
> tree.
> Move the house.
Agreed, if the house owner had infinite funds.
>>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>>> 20" stem is not a really old or big one. probably no more that 300
>>>> years
>>>> old..
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>>
>> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the house
>> down......
>
> It only takes a few weeks to build a new house, it takes years to grow a new
> tree.
> Move the house.
Except 2 weeks? You gotta be kidding me. Just building it maybe, but fitting all the electrics, painting it, furnishing it, moving all your stuff in, ..................
Confuscious say: "If you park, don't drink, accidents cause people."
Bill Wright
Dec 20, 2011, 8:43:20 PM12/20/11
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all over the planners.
Bill
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 20, 2011, 9:21:49 PM12/20/11
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In a recent survey 40% found they didn't have time to answer the
question, 25% hung up the phone when the question was being
asked, 20% couldn't speak English, and 15% gave answers that
weren't asked.
dennis@home
Dec 21, 2011, 2:58:32 AM12/21/11
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they can get Tesco to pay for.
If there is a good reason why they can't build the planners win, just having
locals objecting is *not* a good reason to refuse planning.
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 21, 2011, 6:07:39 AM12/21/11
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dennis@home wrote:
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> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.v6sxy00vytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>
>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>
>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco
>> piss all over the planners.
>
> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
Like Mexican holidays for councillors.
>
>
> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.v6sxy00vytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>
>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>
>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco
>> piss all over the planners.
>
> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
> If there is a good reason why they can't build the planners win, just
> having locals objecting is *not* a good reason to refuse planning.
seen one of those in a long time.
Been a socialist republic now for nearly 20 years.
dennis@home
Dec 21, 2011, 6:48:35 AM12/21/11
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"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:jcrdjp$d33$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.v6sxy00vytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>>
>>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco piss
>>> all over the planners.
>>
>> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
>> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
>
> Like Mexican holidays for councillors.
Or the new police station, underpass, swimming pool they are paying for
>>
>>
>> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:jcrdjp$d33$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.v6sxy00vytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably the planners have already agreed to this felling? If not
>>>>>> they may well whack a tree presevation order on it the moment it's
>>>>>> felling is mentioned...
>>>>>
>>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco piss
>>> all over the planners.
>>
>> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
>> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
>
> Like Mexican holidays for councillors.
here.
>
>> If there is a good reason why they can't build the planners win, just
>> having locals objecting is *not* a good reason to refuse planning.
>
> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have seen
> one of those in a long time.
you what do you think the outcome will be?
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 21, 2011, 8:33:42 AM12/21/11
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dennis@home
Dec 21, 2011, 9:52:15 AM12/21/11
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> dennis@home wrote:
8<
>> So if you ask 60 million people if Tesco can build a supermarket opposite
>> you what do you think the outcome will be?
>>
>
> None of them would care to answer except the 1000 who lived opposite.
1000 matter more than the rest?
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 21, 2011, 12:12:45 PM12/21/11
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Jake
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"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
corner of the junction between this road and a side road. To the rear, there
was a large back garden. Behind the back garden was No 2 of the side road
that ran off the main road at right angles, with No 1 exactly opposite to
No2. Next to No 1 was a large plain brick wall with no windows, several
metres high which is the side of a Sainsburys that also faces onto the main
road, but on the other side of road to the house that sold and the large
back garden.
The owners split the property, reducing the size of the garden that went
with the house, and also put the garden up for sale as a seperate building
plot with planning permission. This was 2008. The house sold quickly, the
signboard for the land is still there. The land is still for sale, it is
sufficient for a detached 4 bedroom property with a decent sized front and
back garden, however, the blocking point is that it would be facing the wall
of the Sainsburys across the street. I think it's going to be fairly hard to
sell it...
andrew
Dec 21, 2011, 3:03:41 PM12/21/11
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Sadly a lot less than if it was in nice seaoned planed boards..
>
Back in the days when I made a living out of roundwood and we had the
> Sadly a lot less than if it was in nice seaoned planed boards..
>
woodmizer I decided to plank a veneer grade bit of yew. Then I could have
sold it to Carl Danzer, to take it to France or Germany for veneer,
anywhere between GBP7-15/Hft.
I never managed to sell any of the planks and I suspect I could still find
some of them in the yard.
AJH
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 21, 2011, 4:37:00 PM12/21/11
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> dennis@home wrote:
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>>
>> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
> dennis@home wrote:
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>> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:jcrdjp$d33$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco
>>> piss all over the planners.
>>
>> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
>> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
>
> Like Mexican holidays for councillors.
>
>> If there is a good reason why they can't build the planners win, just
>> having locals objecting is *not* a good reason to refuse planning.
>
> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have
> seen one of those in a long time.
>
> Been a socialist republic now for nearly 20 years.
Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco
>>> piss all over the planners.
>>
>> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
>> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
>
> Like Mexican holidays for councillors.
>
>> If there is a good reason why they can't build the planners win, just
>> having locals objecting is *not* a good reason to refuse planning.
>
> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have
> seen one of those in a long time.
>
> Been a socialist republic now for nearly 20 years.
A van carrying a dozen movie stunt men on the way to a film location in the mountains spun out of control on the icy road,
crashed through a guardrail, rolled down a 90-foot embankment, turned over, and burst into flames.
There were no injuries.
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Dec 22, 2011, 3:36:47 AM12/22/11
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If breasts had no nipples, they'd be pointless.
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Dec 22, 2011, 3:37:52 AM12/22/11
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> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> dennis@home wrote:
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>>> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
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> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill Wright" <bi...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not if you p off the planners it isn't.
>>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco piss
>>>> all over the planners.
>>>
>>> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
>>> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
>>
>> Like Mexican holidays for councillors.
>
> Or the new police station, underpass, swimming pool they are paying for
> here.
Not Livingston is it?
>>>>> They have near infinite resources if they decide they don't like you.
>>>> No they don't. All council budgets are stretched. Firms like Tesco piss
>>>> all over the planners.
>>>
>>> The planners want Tesco to build.. its just a case of how much other
>>> stuff they can get Tesco to pay for.
>>
>> Like Mexican holidays for councillors.
>
> Or the new police station, underpass, swimming pool they are paying for
> here.
>>> If there is a good reason why they can't build the planners win, just
>>> having locals objecting is *not* a good reason to refuse planning.
>>
>> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have seen
>> one of those in a long time.
>
> So if you ask 60 million people if Tesco can build a supermarket opposite
> you what do you think the outcome will be?
My sex life is so bad that when I called one of those phone sex lines,
a voice came on and said, "Not tonight. I have an earache."
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 22, 2011, 3:38:12 AM12/22/11
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Two cowboys are riding along a trail in the mountains when they suddenly hear tom toms beating very close to them.
"Oh! That doesn't sound good," one says to the other.
As soon as the words were spoken, an Indian jumps out from behind a tree and said, "Yeah, our regular drummer is out sick."
dennis@home
Dec 22, 2011, 4:21:05 AM12/22/11
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weeks.
Ever been to one of the shows where they have real houses built for the
exhibition?
They certainly don't have weeks to do it.
I have even seen Barratt build and fit out a show home in about four weeks
and that is well within the few weeks I said.
If you use a modular system rather than traditional build I expect you could
do it in a few days.
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:28:17 -0000, ARWadsworth
> <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Lieutenant Scott wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:16:35 -0000, dennis@home
>>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the
>>>>> house down......
>>>>
>>>> It only takes a few weeks to build a new house, it takes years to
>>>> grow a new tree.
>>>> Move the house.
>>>
>>> Agreed, if the house owner had infinite funds.
>>>
>>> Except 2 weeks? You gotta be kidding me. Just building it maybe,
>>> but fitting all the electrics, painting it, furnishing it, moving all
>>> your stuff in, ..................
>>
>> But it only takes a few weeks in dennisworld:-)
>
> Nothing ever takes less than 5 times longer trhan anticipated. Murphy's
> 7th Law I believe.
It is quite possible to build a house including fittings in a couple of
> <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Lieutenant Scott wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:16:35 -0000, dennis@home
>>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the
>>>>> house down......
>>>>
>>>> It only takes a few weeks to build a new house, it takes years to
>>>> grow a new tree.
>>>> Move the house.
>>>
>>> Agreed, if the house owner had infinite funds.
>>>
>>> Except 2 weeks? You gotta be kidding me. Just building it maybe,
>>> but fitting all the electrics, painting it, furnishing it, moving all
>>> your stuff in, ..................
>>
>> But it only takes a few weeks in dennisworld:-)
>
> Nothing ever takes less than 5 times longer trhan anticipated. Murphy's
> 7th Law I believe.
weeks.
Ever been to one of the shows where they have real houses built for the
exhibition?
They certainly don't have weeks to do it.
I have even seen Barratt build and fit out a show home in about four weeks
and that is well within the few weeks I said.
If you use a modular system rather than traditional build I expect you could
do it in a few days.
dennis@home
Dec 22, 2011, 4:23:33 AM12/22/11
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8<
>>> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have
>>> seen
>>> one of those in a long time.
>>
>> So if you ask 60 million people if Tesco can build a supermarket opposite
>> you what do you think the outcome will be?
>
> The people aked should be the people close to it and the customer base
> (you don't go to a Tesco 150 miles away).
But if we are going to take democratic votes about planning matters I want
to be able to vote.
If I am allowed to vote then everyone should be able to vote.
If I am not then neither should others.
8<
>>> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have
>>> seen
>>> one of those in a long time.
>>
>> So if you ask 60 million people if Tesco can build a supermarket opposite
>> you what do you think the outcome will be?
>
> The people aked should be the people close to it and the customer base
> (you don't go to a Tesco 150 miles away).
to be able to vote.
If I am allowed to vote then everyone should be able to vote.
If I am not then neither should others.
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 22, 2011, 6:07:08 AM12/22/11
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If Dennis can't vote in Russia, then nor should Russians.
Mike Barnes
Dec 22, 2011, 5:41:09 AM12/22/11
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"dennis@home" <den...@killspam.kickass.net>:
>> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:28:17 -0000, ARWadsworth <adamwadsworth@bluey
six days (on-site days, that is) to build.
http://www.huf-haus.com/en/home.html
--
Mike Barnes
>> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:28:17 -0000, ARWadsworth <adamwadsworth@bluey
>>onder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Lieutenant Scott wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:16:35 -0000, dennis@home
>>>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the
>>>>>> house down......
>>>>>
>>>>> It only takes a few weeks to build a new house, it takes years to
>>>>> grow a new tree.
>>>>> Move the house.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, if the house owner had infinite funds.
>>>>
>>>> Except 2 weeks? You gotta be kidding me. Just building it maybe,
>>>> but fitting all the electrics, painting it, furnishing it, moving all
>>>> your stuff in, ..................
>>>
>>> But it only takes a few weeks in dennisworld:-)
>>
>> Nothing ever takes less than 5 times longer trhan anticipated.
>>Murphy's 7th Law I believe.
>
>
>It is quite possible to build a house including fittings in a couple of
>weeks.
I was speaking to someone only last night who said that his house took
>>
>>> Lieutenant Scott wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:16:35 -0000, dennis@home
>>>> <den...@killspam.kickass.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well its not going to get to 1600 yo if they chop it down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm all for keeping valuable trees, but if it's going to knock the
>>>>>> house down......
>>>>>
>>>>> It only takes a few weeks to build a new house, it takes years to
>>>>> grow a new tree.
>>>>> Move the house.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, if the house owner had infinite funds.
>>>>
>>>> Except 2 weeks? You gotta be kidding me. Just building it maybe,
>>>> but fitting all the electrics, painting it, furnishing it, moving all
>>>> your stuff in, ..................
>>>
>>> But it only takes a few weeks in dennisworld:-)
>>
>> Nothing ever takes less than 5 times longer trhan anticipated.
>>Murphy's 7th Law I believe.
>
>
>It is quite possible to build a house including fittings in a couple of
>weeks.
six days (on-site days, that is) to build.
http://www.huf-haus.com/en/home.html
--
Mike Barnes
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 22, 2011, 1:18:29 PM12/22/11
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As they say at Microsoft - "What do you want to reinstall today?"
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 22, 2011, 1:18:31 PM12/22/11
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> If you use a modular system rather than traditional build I expect you could
> do it in a few days.
An archaeologist is the best husband a woman can have. The older she gets the more interested in her he is.
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 22, 2011, 1:18:32 PM12/22/11
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The dandelion swayed in the gentle breeze like an oscillating electric fan set on medium.
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 22, 2011, 2:14:12 PM12/22/11
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factory shop floor making that flat pack house..
John Williamson
Dec 22, 2011, 2:38:20 PM12/22/11
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month lead time from Huf, and some "interesting" problems with the
glazing, which came from another contractor.
--
Tciao for Now!
John.
Dave - Cyclists VOR
Dec 22, 2011, 3:24:07 PM12/22/11
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On 22/12/2011 18:18, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:07:08 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.v6vt9eqgytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>>>>> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have
>>>>>> seen
>>>>>> one of those in a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you ask 60 million people if Tesco can build a supermarket
>>>>> opposite
>>>>> you what do you think the outcome will be?
>>>>
>>>> The people aked should be the people close to it and the customer base
>>>> (you don't go to a Tesco 150 miles away).
>>>
>>> But if we are going to take democratic votes about planning matters I
>>> want to be able to vote.
>>> If I am allowed to vote then everyone should be able to vote.
>>> If I am not then neither should others.
>>
>>
>> I think that the basis Stalin used in Russia.
>>
>> If Dennis can't vote in Russia, then nor should Russians.
>
> ROFL! Couldn't have put it better myself.
>
Couldn't we send Dennis to Russia?
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:07:08 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.v6vt9eqgytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>>>>> Its the ONLY good reason ultimately in a DEMOCRACY. Not that we have
>>>>>> seen
>>>>>> one of those in a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you ask 60 million people if Tesco can build a supermarket
>>>>> opposite
>>>>> you what do you think the outcome will be?
>>>>
>>>> The people aked should be the people close to it and the customer base
>>>> (you don't go to a Tesco 150 miles away).
>>>
>>> But if we are going to take democratic votes about planning matters I
>>> want to be able to vote.
>>> If I am allowed to vote then everyone should be able to vote.
>>> If I am not then neither should others.
>>
>>
>> I think that the basis Stalin used in Russia.
>>
>> If Dennis can't vote in Russia, then nor should Russians.
>
> ROFL! Couldn't have put it better myself.
>
--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University
Lieutenant Scott
Dec 22, 2011, 3:44:00 PM12/22/11
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:24:07 -0000, Dave - Cyclists VOR <davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22/12/2011 18:18, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:07:08 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.v6vt9eqgytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>>
>>>> 8<
>>>>
>>>>>
> On 22/12/2011 18:18, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:07:08 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lieutenant Scott" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.v6vt9eqgytk5n5@i7-940...
>>>>
>>>> 8<
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The people aked should be the people close to it and the customer base
>>>>> (you don't go to a Tesco 150 miles away).
>>>>
>>>> But if we are going to take democratic votes about planning matters I
>>>> want to be able to vote.
>>>> If I am allowed to vote then everyone should be able to vote.
>>>> If I am not then neither should others.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that the basis Stalin used in Russia.
>>>
>>> If Dennis can't vote in Russia, then nor should Russians.
>>
>> ROFL! Couldn't have put it better myself.
>>
> Couldn't we send Dennis to Russia?
Assuming Dennis weighs 12 stone...... oh dear:
>>>>> (you don't go to a Tesco 150 miles away).
>>>>
>>>> But if we are going to take democratic votes about planning matters I
>>>> want to be able to vote.
>>>> If I am allowed to vote then everyone should be able to vote.
>>>> If I am not then neither should others.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that the basis Stalin used in Russia.
>>>
>>> If Dennis can't vote in Russia, then nor should Russians.
>>
>> ROFL! Couldn't have put it better myself.
>>
> Couldn't we send Dennis to Russia?
http://petersphotos.com/temp/postaperson.jpg
I wonder if I should fill it in and see what they say - contents "live human".
I don't think we need the £2,500 insurance quoted at the bottom.
Marital Status: Not Good
Wife's Name: Plaintiff
The Natural Philosopher
Dec 22, 2011, 4:15:00 PM12/22/11
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Lieutenant Scott
Dec 22, 2011, 5:21:54 PM12/22/11
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Next time you wave at me, use more than one finger please.
Weatherlawyer
Dec 24, 2011, 6:14:17 PM12/24/11
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On Dec 20, 4:48 pm, harry <haroldhr...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 20, 4:30 pm, "Andrew Mawson"
>
> <andrew@please_remove_me.mawson.org.uk> wrote:
> > I have a sizable Yew tree that will need to come down to make room for an
> > extension. It's been suggested that Yew wood is much sort after by the
> > woodworking fraternity. Any idea of it's worth? Main trunk is perhaps 20"
> > diam and the is 8 ish foot before it branches, and the braches are
> > reasonably sizable. It would be nice to be able to offset the felling costs
> > against the value of the timber. It is rather close to the house and to a
> > bridge so it's not the easiest tree to bring down.
>
> > AWEM
>
> It depends on the grain. Ifi t is "burred" (ie lots of little knots)
> then they make veneer out of it. If it has no knots, there are quite
> a few bowyers about these days. The wood has to be sound and straight
> grain.
> Most English yew trees have some form of rot in them. Our yew bows of
> old came mostly from France.
The French sold the English the bows they got killed with?
> I have cut a few yew trees down, never found one of any value, ended
> up as firewood (excellent).
> If it is an easy felling job, a firewood firm may do the job for
> nothing.
Best contact a bow maker for the real gen. A timber mill will grade
and price it in situ and may even remove it too. So might the bow
maker.
If it's rotten it may be OK for use as the yew my have a good strength
gradient or whatever the term is. If the tree is so poisonous it won't
be attacked by fungi but they do die a bit at a time.
If the bowmaker isn't interested, a furniture maker will be. If he
isn't then some hobbyist with a lathe might like it. Most towns have
an archery club you can contact for better advice.
> On Dec 20, 4:30 pm, "Andrew Mawson"
>
> <andrew@please_remove_me.mawson.org.uk> wrote:
> > I have a sizable Yew tree that will need to come down to make room for an
> > extension. It's been suggested that Yew wood is much sort after by the
> > woodworking fraternity. Any idea of it's worth? Main trunk is perhaps 20"
> > diam and the is 8 ish foot before it branches, and the braches are
> > reasonably sizable. It would be nice to be able to offset the felling costs
> > against the value of the timber. It is rather close to the house and to a
> > bridge so it's not the easiest tree to bring down.
>
> > AWEM
>
> It depends on the grain. Ifi t is "burred" (ie lots of little knots)
> then they make veneer out of it. If it has no knots, there are quite
> a few bowyers about these days. The wood has to be sound and straight
> grain.
> Most English yew trees have some form of rot in them. Our yew bows of
> old came mostly from France.
The French sold the English the bows they got killed with?
> I have cut a few yew trees down, never found one of any value, ended
> up as firewood (excellent).
> If it is an easy felling job, a firewood firm may do the job for
> nothing.
Best contact a bow maker for the real gen. A timber mill will grade
and price it in situ and may even remove it too. So might the bow
maker.
If it's rotten it may be OK for use as the yew my have a good strength
gradient or whatever the term is. If the tree is so poisonous it won't
be attacked by fungi but they do die a bit at a time.
If the bowmaker isn't interested, a furniture maker will be. If he
isn't then some hobbyist with a lathe might like it. Most towns have
an archery club you can contact for better advice.
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