Strange telephone call
MuddyMike
of Microsoft! Keeps telephoning me and STWNFI insisting that our computers
are infected with a virus that is bombarding them the internet with spam. He
tried to convince me that our IP address had been identified by the
International Routing System and this had alerted Microsoft to call in his
services. I led him on a bit this afternoon and he asked me to run EVENT VWR
on my PC.
Sadly at that point the other phone rang and it was a call I was waiting for
so had to take it.
Anyone know where this was leading? I know its a crock of shit, for one
thing we don't have a static IP address that could be traced back to my
phone number.
Mike
Jim K
time you did some googling methinks
http://www.digitaltoast.co.uk/supportonclick-systemrecure-scam
Jim K
tony sayer
Andrew Gabriel
"MuddyMike" <ne...@mattishall.org.uk> writes:
> A very nice Asian sounding man called Barry from Global UK working on behalf
> of Microsoft! Keeps telephoning me and STWNFI insisting that our computers
> are infected with a virus that is bombarding them the internet with spam. He
> tried to convince me that our IP address had been identified by the
> International Routing System and this had alerted Microsoft to call in his
> services. I led him on a bit this afternoon and he asked me to run EVENT VWR
> on my PC.
Oh, I'd love to get one of those.
All I seem to get at the moment are
"Sir, we've been told that you or a member of your family were
involved in an accident recently"...
which isn't true, so I just tell them they've been ripped off by
the person who sold them the data (and this sector is now a large
business, so it's not surprising people started selling fake data).
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
ARWadsworth
How odd. I was a witness to a car accident last week. I have had 3
calls/texts already about my claim! I managed to keep one woman on the phone
for 15 minutes before she realised I was making my injuries up and was not
involved in an accident.
--
Adam
fred
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>
>How odd. I was a witness to a car accident last week. I have had 3
>calls/texts already about my claim! I managed to keep one woman on the phone
>for 15 minutes before she realised I was making my injuries up and was not
>involved in an accident.
>
are that their career in prostitution didn't work out as you're sure
they wouldn't have to work in such a low down, shitty job if it had
worked out for them. Were they too stick faced to make a go of it?
--
fred
FIVE TV's superbright logo - not the DOG's, it's bollocks
Skipweasel
adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
> How odd. I was a witness to a car accident last week. I have had 3
> calls/texts already about my claim! I managed to keep one woman on the phone
> for 15 minutes before she realised I was making my injuries up and was not
> involved in an accident.
Did you at any point give permission for your details to be passed
around?
If not, I suspect this selling of data (whether you're a witness or
directly involved) is illegal. You have no business relationship with
them and the Data Protection Registrar really ought to look into this.
IANAL - but the uk.legal nest of vipers might be worth poking.
--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.
Graham.
"ARWadsworth" <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:ik90k6$pps$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
I'm surprised they gave up so easily if they were genuine claims management people.
She would be about as bothered about how genuine your injury was as a defence
barrister is about the actual guilt or innocence of his client.
Witnessing an accident can be the cause of much mental anguish and trauma ;-) ;-) ;-)
--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%
ARWadsworth
Considering it took her 10 minutes to realise that "I poked myself in my eye
with my bellend" in the accident was a wind up, I assume that she was
stupid. Her timing was perfect, I was in the wholesalers and put the call on
hands free to amuse the staff when I realised it was a ripoff/ambulance
chaser type of call.
Adam
Robin
> directly involved) is illegal. You have no business relationship with
> them and the Data Protection Registrar really ought to look into this.
>
from India from an Indian firm working on the commission they get for
providing "leads". All such firms overseas know as well as your local
yobs that "you can't touch me".
The government tells us the £250m or so a year the UK provides in the
form of overseas aid to India improves our national security. But sadly
it does not seem to buy us any security from (in the past week alone
here) telephone offering release from my debts, savings on gas and
electricity, cheaper insurance and entry in a free draw if I'll just
answer a few questions about my savings.
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com
Graham.
"Skipweasel" <skipweas...@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.27d224e9f...@85.214.73.210...
I didn't feel that way when several firms contacted me to try and get me to make
a personal injury claim. After all, I had nothing to lose. As it happens, I didn't want to peruse
a claim.
--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%
ARWadsworth
> I'm surprised they gave up so easily if they were genuine claims
> management people. She would be about as bothered about how genuine your
> injury was as a
> defence barrister is about the actual guilt or innocence of his client.
See my reply to fred. I did take the piss out of her.
> Witnessing an accident can be the cause of much mental anguish and
> trauma ;-) ;-) ;-)
Not witnessing one is bad enough. I remember the MiL getting run over by a
snowplough and I missed it.
--
Adam
Andrew Gabriel
Skipweasel <skipweas...@googlemail.com> writes:
> In article <ik90k6$pps$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
>> How odd. I was a witness to a car accident last week. I have had 3
>> calls/texts already about my claim! I managed to keep one woman on the phone
>> for 15 minutes before she realised I was making my injuries up and was not
>> involved in an accident.
>
> Did you at any point give permission for your details to be passed
> around?
The information is sold by your insurance company in the first
instance, and yes, you did given them permission to do so - it's
a condition of your insurance, and it's a big earner for them.
Ironically, it ends up costing them much more in claims, but as
they pass that on to you, it's not their problem. It's grown
enormously in the last year, and is indirectly responsible for
all of the 30% average increase in motor insurance premiums over
the last year (a period during which accidents have dropped),
due to much higher payouts due to rapid increase in ambulance
chasers.
Many insurers have said this should be made illegal, because
they can't stop doing it unless everyone stops doing it.
Owain
> Considering it took her 10 minutes to realise that "I poked myself in my eye
> with my bellend" in the accident was a wind up,
If it wasn't for the seatbelt and the beer belly ...
Owain
The Natural Philosopher
As my wife said when asked if she could remember exactly when the
accident occurred 'No, I've lost my head and cant remember anything'
Bob Eager
> In article <MPG.27d224e9f...@85.214.73.210>,
> Skipweasel <skipweas...@googlemail.com> writes:
>> In article <ik90k6$pps$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
>>> How odd. I was a witness to a car accident last week. I have had 3
>>> calls/texts already about my claim! I managed to keep one woman on the
>>> phone for 15 minutes before she realised I was making my injuries up
>>> and was not involved in an accident.
>>
>> Did you at any point give permission for your details to be passed
>> around?
>
> The information is sold by your insurance company in the first instance,
> and yes, you did given them permission to do so - it's a condition of
> your insurance, and it's a big earner for them.
True, but he wasn't the insured, was he?
--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org
*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor
Peter Scott
Listen to past episodes of The Bob Servant Emails on BBC radio 4. Object
lessons in how wind up and waste the time of spammers. If we all did it
they'd get a real job (or go into politics I guess)
Peter Scott
John Rumm
Common story - usually leads you to letting them have remote control to
"fix" your computer and then them billing your CC either for the remote
fixing of various "problems" or flogging you some worthless (or worse)
software to do the same.
--
Cheers,
John.
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The Natural Philosopher
> On 25/02/2011 18:55, MuddyMike wrote:
>> A very nice Asian sounding man called Barry from Global UK working on
>> behalf
>> of Microsoft! Keeps telephoning me and STWNFI insisting that our
>> computers
>> are infected with a virus that is bombarding them the internet with
>> spam. He
>> tried to convince me that our IP address had been identified by the
>> International Routing System and this had alerted Microsoft to call in
>> his
>> services. I led him on a bit this afternoon and he asked me to run
>> EVENT VWR
>> on my PC.
>> Sadly at that point the other phone rang and it was a call I was
>> waiting for
>> so had to take it.
>> Anyone know where this was leading? I know its a crock of shit, for one
>> thing we don't have a static IP address that could be traced back to my
>> phone number.
>
> Common story - usually leads you to letting them have remote control to
> "fix" your computer and then them billing your CC either for the remote
> fixing of various "problems" or flogging you some worthless (or worse)
> software to do the same.
>
and having stripped all your passwords as well'
geoff
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
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geoff
fred
<adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
mileage from it.
SS
"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:ik99du$h07$2...@news.albasani.net...
purposes!
the phone usually goes down sharpish.
Cash
Mike.
I had one tell me to look in the Prefetch folder and I would find hundreds
of 'infected' files there that would need 'cleaning out' - he put the phone
done when I told him that I had disabled [1] this feature in the registry
of Windows XP SP3 and that he was trying on a f****g [2] scam to get me to
let him have remote control access [3] to my computer so that he could
download some rather useless program to clear out legitimate files for a
fee - and using my debit card to pay.
[1] Yes I have done this, and no, I don't find that the computer
noticeably takes longer to load files or causes other problems.
[2] I was in a bad mood that evening as this was the third such call in
four days - they haven't rung since.
[3] This feature is also disabled on my computer and two others in the
house.
Cash
The Medway Handyman
reply by asking him where he buys his - which seems to confuse him. I
say I'll tell him when he tells me.
--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
F Murtz
WTF is STWNFI
Alan
<pe...@peter-scott.org.uk> wrote
>Listen to past episodes of The Bob Servant Emails on BBC radio 4.
>Object lessons in how wind up and waste the time of spammers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkdoogjic4I
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk
Nightjar
I have better things to do with my time. I simply say I don't take cold
calls and put the phone down.
Colin Bignell
MuddyMike
"F Murtz" <hagg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ik9jg6$rpq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> MuddyMike wrote:
>> A very nice Asian sounding man called Barry from Global UK working on
>> behalf
>> of Microsoft! Keeps telephoning me and STWNFI insisting that our
>> computers
>> are infected with a virus that is bombarding them the internet with spam.
>> He
>> tried to convince me that our IP address had been identified by the
>>
>
>
"She That Whom No Fairer Is"
Thomas Bateson
Mike
Skipweasel
ne...@mattishall.org.uk says...
> "She That Whom No Fairer Is"
> Thomas Bateson
>
Bottle blonde?
Jim K
wrote:
> In article <MaKdnf11WdCke_XQnZ2dnUVZ8tSdn...@brightview.com>,
> n...@mattishall.org.uk says...
>
> > "She That Whom No Fairer Is"
> > Thomas Bateson
>
> Bottle blonde?
easiest way is to check muff and cuffs....
Jim K
John Weston
>
> I have better things to do with my time. I simply say I don't take cold
> calls and put the phone down.
>
> Colin Bignell
Agreed, but then they often ring back.
I prefer to put on an "official" voice and quickly say "Password please"
and/or "You shouldn't be calling here and a note has been made of your
location. Don't do it again! Goodbye"
Works for me and I'm seldom recalled. Makes me I feel better too :-)
--
John W
Peter Johnson
(Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
>
>Oh, I'd love to get one of those.
>
I had one a few weeks ago, from a woman. I replied that it was a scam
Reentrant
We started to get loads of spam calls from India not long after taking
out an ICICI ISA - hardly a coincidence I suspect.
In the end we bought a TrueCall box ("as seen on Dragons' Den") and that
filters out all junk calls.
--
Reentrant
Gill Smith
news:HImdnQTUKK-wZvrQ...@brightview.com...
>A very nice Asian sounding man called Barry from Global UK working on
>behalf of Microsoft! Keeps telephoning me and STWNFI insisting that our
>computers are infected with a virus that is bombarding them the internet
>with spam. He tried to convince me that our IP address had been identified
>EVENT VWR on my PC.
> Sadly at that point the other phone rang and it was a call I was waiting
> for so had to take it.
> Anyone know where this was leading?
your wallet......
--
http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
Peter Scott
Oh dear. It's a comedy programme.
Terry Fields
MuddyMike wrote:
>
>"F Murtz" <hagg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ik9jg6$rpq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> WTF is STWNFI
>
>"She That Whom No Fairer Is" Thomas Bateson
After a bit of a search I think that might be (for the sake of
accuracy) "...(that) she than whom no fairer is".
Needless to say, my guesses were wide of the mark, so thanks for that.
TF
Dave
Joining the telephone preference service cured it for me, now I get
annoyed by American based calls.
Dave
Skipweasel
dave...@btopenworld.com says...
> Joining the telephone preference service cured it for me, now I get
> annoyed by American based calls.
>
"Congratulations, you have won a luxury crui......ClickBRRRRRRRRR"
Tim
Simpler still if you don't ever receive legitimate overseas call, a
Truecall unit. Second best invention after the TiVo.
Tim
Skipweasel
yahoo...@news.eternal-september.org>, timdow...@yahoo.co.uk
says...
> Simpler still if you don't ever receive legitimate overseas call, a
> Truecall unit. Second best invention after the TiVo.
If it works the way I think it does, then there's a potential problem -
quite a few organisations you might want to hear from withold their
number. The local police usually do, as do most hospitals, for example.
Alan
<dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote
>Joining the telephone preference service cured it for me, now I get
>annoyed by American based calls.
It will work for most UK calls but most of the S**T I'm now getting is
international. I just let the answerphone pick up the call and 99% of
the cold callers ring off during the outgoing message.
There area few (Paris Disneyland) who will leave attempt to leave an
automated message, but will start during the outgoing message.
Barleycard credit card fraud department have a sophisticated auto phone
service. On detecting an answerphone it waits until the outgoing message
has finished and then gives a sensible message to contact them.
Owain
> If it works the way I think it does, then there's a potential problem -
> quite a few organisations you might want to hear from withold their
> number. The local police usually do, as do most hospitals, for example.
Then you can give them a bypass code which if they key it in right
gets them past the message and makes the phones ring.
http://www.truecall.co.uk/acatalog/Advanced_ICM_Code_Access.html
Owain
PeterC
'tis rumoured that Marylin Munroe was a dyed-in-the-wool blonde.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway
The Natural Philosopher
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 04:36:25 -0800 (PST), Jim K wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 12:05 pm, Skipweasel <skipweaselnos...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> In article <MaKdnf11WdCke_XQnZ2dnUVZ8tSdn...@brightview.com>,
>>> n...@mattishall.org.uk says...
>>>
>>>> "She That Whom No Fairer Is"
>>>> Thomas Bateson
>>> Bottle blonde?
>> easiest way is to check muff and cuffs....
>>
>> Jim K
>
> 'tis rumoured that Marylin Munroe was a dyed-in-the-wool blonde.
geoff
<giraffe...@homecall.co.uk> writes
>On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 04:36:25 -0800 (PST), Jim K wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 12:05 pm, Skipweasel <skipweaselnos...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> In article <MaKdnf11WdCke_XQnZ2dnUVZ8tSdn...@brightview.com>,
>>> n...@mattishall.org.uk says...
>>>
>>>> "She That Whom No Fairer Is"
>>>> Thomas Bateson
>>>
>>> Bottle blonde?
>>
>> easiest way is to check muff and cuffs....
>>
>> Jim K
>
>'tis rumoured that Marylin Munroe was a dyed-in-the-wool blonde.
I thought she died in bed ... or not
--
geoff
Skipweasel
@p11g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>, spuorg...@gowanhill.com says...
And what are the chances that the hospital ringing you to tell you
they've got your loved one on the slab will do that?
Nick Odell
In my experience, the only people who ring up saying they have got
your loved one on the slab in hospital then go on to say that they
need $10,000 to pay for life-saving treatment and a 'courier' will
collect it from you immediately. But then my experience has only been
in Latin America so YMMV. In Britain they send a policeman to your
door, don't they?
Nick
Owain
> ...In Britain they send a policeman to your
> door, don't they?
... if they can't get through on the phone.
Owain
Skipweasel
gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid says...
> In Britain they send a policeman to your door, don't they?
Dunno - but there are occasions where you might welcome a phonecall from
the dibbles or the hospital - both of which frequently withold their
number.
Adrian Simpson
<1460915519320434080.86647...@news.eternal-septemb
er.org>, Tim <timdow...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>Simpler still if you don't ever receive legitimate overseas call, a
>Truecall unit. Second best invention after the TiVo.
>
Several years ago I had a phone call from a mate of mine which had a
caller id of "overseas call" (or words to that effect). Knowing that he
did quite a bit of travelling for work, I asked him where he was.
"Home" came the reply (home being Cheshire). It seems he had a deal
with his phone company, so I don't think you could rely on not getting
legitimate overseas calls.
Adrian
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To Reply :
replace "news" with "adrian" and "nospam" with "ffoil"
Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops
Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies.
Tim
Our local hospital used to but has stopped witholding. Too many people have
anonymous caller rejection for them to reliably contact patients. All these
organisation can temporaily stop withholding their number if they need to
get yoou.
Tim
Alan
<skipweas...@googlemail.com> wrote
>In article <p0qim65rbii23nd82...@4ax.com>,
>gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid says...
>> In Britain they send a policeman to your door, don't they?
>
>Dunno - but there are occasions where you might welcome a phonecall from
>the dibbles or the hospital - both of which frequently withold their
>number.
>
>
Their problem not mine. Any withheld number is a cold call spammer and
if the NHS is withholding their number and cannot get through then just
take legal action and get millions in compensation.
Skipweasel
yahoo...@news.eternal-september.org>, timdow...@yahoo.co.uk
says...
>
> Our local hospital used to but has stopped witholding. Too many people have
> anonymous caller rejection for them to reliably contact patients. All these
> organisation can temporaily stop withholding their number if they need to
> get yoou.
Can - but perhaps won't.
Skipweasel
says...
> Their problem not mine. Any withheld number is a cold call spammer and
> if the NHS is withholding their number and cannot get through then just
> take legal action and get millions in compensation.
That might be cold comfort after the event.
Dave Liquorice
> Our local hospital used to but has stopped witholding. Too many people
> have anonymous caller rejection for them to reliably contact patients.
> All these organisation can temporaily stop withholding their number if
> they need to get yoou.
Or better still set up their systems to only present the switch board
number or if the call is coming from a department or ward the DDI to
the reception for that department/ward irrespective of the instrument
used to make the call.
--
Cheers
Dave.
Tim Downie
That's what happens with our local hospital. All outgoing calls from any
exension appear with the same 0800 number.
Tim
Theo Markettos
> We have only Macs here. Perhaps I should let the guy run on and try to
> download some software. He'll probably claim he succeeded in running it
> ...
I managed to waste 3 hours of their time by them trying to connect to my
Linux machine. Strangely it never did work. But then my imaginary credit
card number didn't work either. Funny that.
Theo
The Other Mike
>I'm surprised they gave up so easily if they were genuine claims management people.
>She would be about as bothered about how genuine your injury was as a defence
>barrister is about the actual guilt or innocence of his client.
It's not that straightforward. If a client openly discloses to their
barrister or other legal professional that they actually committed an
offence but they still want to plead not guilty then the legal bod is
no longer permitted to represent that client.
But you are probably right, all lawyers are scum.
--
The Other Mike
<inv...@earlsway.invalid> wrote:
>In article <0tKdnd79T-MMfvXQ...@giganews.com>, ""Nightjar
><\"cpb\"@" <"insertmysurnamehere>" wrote:
>>
>> I have better things to do with my time. I simply say I don't take cold
>> calls and put the phone down.
>>
>> Colin Bignell
>
>Agreed, but then they often ring back.
>
>I prefer to put on an "official" voice and quickly say "Password please"
>and/or "You shouldn't be calling here and a note has been made of your
>location. Don't do it again! Goodbye"
>
>Works for me and I'm seldom recalled. Makes me I feel better too :-)
My variation is along the lines of
"Armed Response Unit, what is the deployment location?"
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