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Vortex

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Apr 17, 2004, 9:37:51 AM4/17/04
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Are there such things as masonry drill bits that will cut wood too?

I need to drill an approx 300mm x 25mm hole through concrete that has a
50mm-ish block of timber embedded half way.

I don't particularly want to burn my way through the wood with expensive
masonry bits

I don't particularly want to destroy expensive wood bits with concrete.


Any suggestions?


Set Square

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Apr 17, 2004, 12:00:35 PM4/17/04
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Vortex <ne...@nospam.vortex.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

I've often seen demos (at Ideal Home shows etc.) of drills bits which
purport to drill through everything in sight - including steel, masonry,
wood etc. - but I have a natural suspicion of such demos, so I've never
bought any.

Has anyone else taken the plunge? Do they *really* do what they claim to do?

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Vortex

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Apr 17, 2004, 12:37:17 PM4/17/04
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"Set Square" <d...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I actually need to drill 2 holes. This morning I took the plunge, intending
to start with an 8mm bit, then 12mm, then 18mm, then 25mm.

I succeeded in drilling one hole, in the process destroying one 8mm and 2
x12mm (20 quids worth) of bits.
Only when the hole was big enough to look into did I see the wood!

My drill (Bosch 550 watt) now smells like a burnt plastic bag as well.

Unless there is a "magic" drill bit available then methinks it's time to
invest in some SDS technology, and for the second hole I'll excavate a huge
hole (to reveal the wood), probably sacrifice a high speed wood bit (to get
through the wood) then masonry thereafter.

David.


Dave Plowman

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Apr 17, 2004, 2:16:36 PM4/17/04
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In article <vMydnSHpCau...@pins.co.uk>,

Vortex <ne...@nospam.vortex.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Unless there is a "magic" drill bit available then methinks it's time to
> invest in some SDS technology, and for the second hole I'll excavate a
> huge hole (to reveal the wood), probably sacrifice a high speed wood bit
> (to get through the wood) then masonry thereafter.

IMHO, if it's proper concrete, SDS is the only thing that will touch it.

If it's a 25mm hole you're after, drill the concrete with a masonry bit
till you hit the wood, then swap to a flat wood bit - they're cheap and
easy to re-sharpen. You can get extensions if it's not long enough.

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Toby

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Apr 17, 2004, 4:46:45 PM4/17/04
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Masonry bit in SDS, goes straight through joist then wall (brick in my case)
then small gap then second joist. The hammer action pushes it through the
timber with no impediment, have to be a bit careful about excessive breakout
on the far side of the timber.

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Michael Mcneil

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Apr 17, 2004, 5:03:50 PM4/17/04
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"Vortex" <ne...@nospam.vortex.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Unless there is a "magic" drill bit available then methinks it's time to
> invest in some SDS technology, and for the second hole I'll excavate a huge
> hole (to reveal the wood), probably sacrifice a high speed wood bit (to get
> through the wood) then masonry thereafter.

SDS drill bits will go through anything including the armor on wiring so
buy a detector with your drill.

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Dave Stanton

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Apr 18, 2004, 5:21:08 AM4/18/04
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> SDS drill bits will go through anything including the armor on wiring so
> buy a detector with your drill.

Sounds like the voice of experience ! !

Dave

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stuart noble

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Apr 18, 2004, 7:24:19 AM4/18/04
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Dave Stanton wrote in message ...

>
>> SDS drill bits will go through anything including the armor on wiring so
>> buy a detector with your drill.
I have a couple of combination drill bits (from Screwfix IIRC). They have a
gold coloured thread. Very good through masonry and better than a masonry
bit through wood.


Michael Mcneil

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Apr 18, 2004, 9:04:42 AM4/18/04
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"stuart noble" <stuart'noble...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I've just come back from the local Sunday market. The sds dills on sale
there are a reincarnataion of Nu Tool/BlackSpur. I think the Chinese
gangsters who make these things must change the names of their stuff
every couple of years. If it isn't a tax dodge it must be warrantee
comebacks?

Boschman is the going phrase. They have picked on a German firm this
time and the prices reflect the German name for quality. 40 quid for the
drill 6 quid for a set of bits.

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