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Clive Page
Dec 13, 2021, 6:55:45 AM12/13/21
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I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
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John J
Dec 13, 2021, 7:53:11 AM12/13/21
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charles
Dec 13, 2021, 8:08:08 AM12/13/21
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In article <17a864de-dc22-49b5...@googlegroups.com>,
> our local supermarkets ##
Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
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Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
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Martin Brown
Dec 13, 2021, 8:13:59 AM12/13/21
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Caffeine extraction using supercritical CO2 is almost closed cycle
process so that they only need a bit of CO2 to make up for any losses.
More likely it is local difficulty with distribution. Random things do
go short supply with empty shelves appearing here and there.
Tesco online seem to be showing all decaf products as available.
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alan_m
Dec 13, 2021, 8:20:04 AM12/13/21
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required for all the frozen Christmas goods. My local supermarket now
has freezers full of turkeys.
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newshound
Dec 13, 2021, 9:49:55 AM12/13/21
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On 13/12/2021 13:05, charles wrote:
> In article <17a864de-dc22-49b5...@googlegroups.com>,
> John J <johnje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, 13 December 2021 at 11:55:45 UTC, Clive Page wrote:
>>> I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the
>>> evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In
>>> recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any
>>> brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed
>>> carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two
>>> back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clive Page
>> No idea but proper Walls Neapolitan ice cream tubs are like hens teeth in
>> our local supermarkets ##
>
> Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
>
Round here, only one of the three big supermarkets has had rinse aid in
> In article <17a864de-dc22-49b5...@googlegroups.com>,
> John J <johnje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, 13 December 2021 at 11:55:45 UTC, Clive Page wrote:
>>> I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the
>>> evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In
>>> recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any
>>> brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed
>>> carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two
>>> back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clive Page
>> No idea but proper Walls Neapolitan ice cream tubs are like hens teeth in
>> our local supermarkets ##
>
> Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
>
the past month or two, and then only one of the times I was in.
Rod Speed
Dec 13, 2021, 11:39:54 AM12/13/21
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newshound <sradcl...@gmail.com> wrote
> charles wrote
>> John J <johnje...@gmail.com> wrote
absolutely gleaming.
Soft water area tho.
> charles wrote
>> John J <johnje...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Clive Page wrote
>>>> I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the
>>>> evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In
>>>> recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any
>>>> brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed
>>>> carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two
>>>> back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
>>>>
>>>> I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the
>>>> evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In
>>>> recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any
>>>> brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed
>>>> carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two
>>>> back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
>>>>
>>> No idea but proper Walls Neapolitan ice cream tubs are like hens teeth
>>> in
>>> our local supermarkets ##
>>
>> Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
> Round here, only one of the three big supermarkets has had rinse aid in
> the past month or two, and then only one of the times I was in.
I don’t use rinse aid at all and find the stuff out of the dishwasher is
>>> in
>>> our local supermarkets ##
>>
>> Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
> Round here, only one of the three big supermarkets has had rinse aid in
> the past month or two, and then only one of the times I was in.
absolutely gleaming.
Soft water area tho.
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Dec 13, 2021, 11:57:02 AM12/13/21
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alan_m
Dec 13, 2021, 1:32:40 PM12/13/21
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On 13/12/2021 17:21, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
> poundland has no Walkers ready salted crisps...bummer
Its due to Brexit - there are now long delays delivering Walkers crisps
> poundland has no Walkers ready salted crisps...bummer
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Nick Odell
Dec 13, 2021, 1:33:26 PM12/13/21
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 11:55:40 +0000, Clive Page <use...@page2.eu>
wrote:
>I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
This being a do-it-yourself group, couldn't you just buy the regular
beans and then stir them around for a bit in a bucket of acetone?
Nick
wrote:
>I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
beans and then stir them around for a bit in a bucket of acetone?
Nick
Nick Odell
Dec 13, 2021, 1:36:05 PM12/13/21
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:05:11 +0000 (GMT), charles
<cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>In article <17a864de-dc22-49b5...@googlegroups.com>,
> John J <johnje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, 13 December 2021 at 11:55:45 UTC, Clive Page wrote:
>> > I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the
>> > evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In
>> > recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any
>> > brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed
>> > carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two
>> > back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Clive Page
>> No idea but proper Walls Neapolitan ice cream tubs are like hens teeth in
>> our local supermarkets ##
>
>Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
Dunno about Lidl but Tesco and Asda each have mulled wine - but the
<cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>In article <17a864de-dc22-49b5...@googlegroups.com>,
> John J <johnje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, 13 December 2021 at 11:55:45 UTC, Clive Page wrote:
>> > I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the
>> > evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In
>> > recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any
>> > brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed
>> > carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two
>> > back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Clive Page
>> No idea but proper Walls Neapolitan ice cream tubs are like hens teeth in
>> our local supermarkets ##
>
>Lidl don't seem to have any Mulled Wine this year
alcohol content is only 5.5% compared with 8% last year (I still have
a left-over bottle from last year) I know most of the alcohol is going
to evaporate when you heat it but - come on now? 5.5%?
Nick
Eusebius
Dec 13, 2021, 1:39:02 PM12/13/21
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> This being a do-it-yourself group, couldn't you just buy the regular
> beans and then stir them around for a bit in a bucket of acetone?
> > Nick
Ha Ha..... But seriously, there are loads of UK coffee roasters who would be very pleased to sell you decaf. Just get an Aeropress and you'll get great coffee whenever you want it. I'm still a fan though my son has recently switched to a Mokka pot.
> beans and then stir them around for a bit in a bucket of acetone?
> > Nick
alan_m
Dec 13, 2021, 1:44:38 PM12/13/21
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On 13/12/2021 18:36, Nick Odell wrote:
> Dunno about Lidl but Tesco and Asda each have mulled wine - but the
> alcohol content is only 5.5% compared with 8% last year (I still have
> a left-over bottle from last year) I know most of the alcohol is going
> to evaporate when you heat it but - come on now? 5.5%?
Didn't the duty due on the amount alcohol in wine change in the last budget?
> Dunno about Lidl but Tesco and Asda each have mulled wine - but the
> alcohol content is only 5.5% compared with 8% last year (I still have
> a left-over bottle from last year) I know most of the alcohol is going
> to evaporate when you heat it but - come on now? 5.5%?
Graeme
Dec 13, 2021, 1:44:44 PM12/13/21
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In message <j1oqls...@mid.individual.net>, Clive Page
<use...@page2.eu> writes
>none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any brand.
Not a shortage as such, just an annoyance. Years ago, bought son one of
those silly Cadburys chocolate bar dispensers, with mini bars of
chocolate, then refilled it yearly. That was OK until suddenly,
Cadburys stopped making the refills.
Similarly, we always decorate the tree with Cadburys chocolate tree
decorations, a mixture of squares and disks of solid chocolate. Not
this year though, they don't seem to be available anywhere I have
looked. Abstrads.
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Graeme
<use...@page2.eu> writes
>none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any brand.
those silly Cadburys chocolate bar dispensers, with mini bars of
chocolate, then refilled it yearly. That was OK until suddenly,
Cadburys stopped making the refills.
Similarly, we always decorate the tree with Cadburys chocolate tree
decorations, a mixture of squares and disks of solid chocolate. Not
this year though, they don't seem to be available anywhere I have
looked. Abstrads.
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Nick Odell
Dec 13, 2021, 3:18:24 PM12/13/21
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 18:44:33 +0000, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:
>On 13/12/2021 18:36, Nick Odell wrote:
>
>> Dunno about Lidl but Tesco and Asda each have mulled wine - but the
>> alcohol content is only 5.5% compared with 8% last year (I still have
>> a left-over bottle from last year) I know most of the alcohol is going
>> to evaporate when you heat it but - come on now? 5.5%?
>
>Didn't the duty due on the amount alcohol in wine change in the last budget?
I think it did. But I still don't know why they didn't go the whole
hog and label it Spiced Grape Beer.
Nick
wrote:
>On 13/12/2021 18:36, Nick Odell wrote:
>
>> Dunno about Lidl but Tesco and Asda each have mulled wine - but the
>> alcohol content is only 5.5% compared with 8% last year (I still have
>> a left-over bottle from last year) I know most of the alcohol is going
>> to evaporate when you heat it but - come on now? 5.5%?
>
>Didn't the duty due on the amount alcohol in wine change in the last budget?
hog and label it Spiced Grape Beer.
Nick
Brian Gaff (Sofa)
Dec 14, 2021, 3:41:12 AM12/14/21
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So what do they do with the co2 and the caf after its removed??
Brian
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PeterC
Dec 14, 2021, 4:46:14 AM12/14/21
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 11:55:40 +0000, Clive Page wrote:
> I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
Waitrose had som last week, first time for a couple of months.
> I usually like to have decaffinated coffee when I take it in the evening, otherwise the caffeine can make it harder to get to sleep. In recent weeks none of the supermarkets seem to have any decaf of any brand. I have an idea that the caffeine is extracted using compressed carbon dioxide, which itself was said to be hard to get a month or two back. So is that the explanation - does anyone know?
No problem though, as Aldidl were well stocked and cheaper.
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Clive Page
Dec 14, 2021, 9:52:52 AM12/14/21
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On 13/12/2021 18:36, Nick Odell wrote:
> Dunno about Lidl but Tesco and Asda each have mulled wine - but the
> alcohol content is only 5.5% compared with 8% last year (I still have
> a left-over bottle from last year) I know most of the alcohol is going
> to evaporate when you heat it but - come on now? 5.5%?
I agree that obviously needs to be topped up. Ideally with vodka I suppose. But most hand sanitiser (there's a lot of it about right now for some reason) seems to be largely ethyl alcohol so could be used if you were desperate as the spices in the mulling would surely disguise the flavour. Just make sure that there isn't any methyl alcohol in it as well as that isn't good for you.
> alcohol content is only 5.5% compared with 8% last year (I still have
> a left-over bottle from last year) I know most of the alcohol is going
> to evaporate when you heat it but - come on now? 5.5%?
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Clive Page
Dec 14, 2021, 9:56:30 AM12/14/21
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Martin Brown
Dec 14, 2021, 9:58:48 AM12/14/21
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internally either and a many gels have a fair proportion of that in too.
The ones with surfactants and antiseptics in might even be quite
dangerous. I doubt if they ever considered people might drink them!
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Clive Page
Dec 14, 2021, 9:59:43 AM12/14/21
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Dec 14, 2021, 10:03:23 AM12/14/21
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Dec 14, 2021, 11:01:00 AM12/14/21
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On 13/12/2021 18:32, alan_m wrote:
> On 13/12/2021 17:21, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>
>
>> poundland has no Walkers ready salted crisps...bummer
>
> Its due to Brexit - there are now long delays delivering Walkers crisps
> from China!
>
>
Extra OT, I was amused to discover a little while ago that almost all
> On 13/12/2021 17:21, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>
>
>> poundland has no Walkers ready salted crisps...bummer
>
> Its due to Brexit - there are now long delays delivering Walkers crisps
> from China!
>
>
Cadbury's Flakes are made in Egypt.
newshound
Dec 14, 2021, 11:02:11 AM12/14/21
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On 14/12/2021 15:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>
> My problenm ois that waitrose seems to stick almost nothing BUT decaff
> beans...
>
And you are surprised?
>>
>>
> My problenm ois that waitrose seems to stick almost nothing BUT decaff
> beans...
>
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Dec 14, 2021, 12:07:15 PM12/14/21
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Martin Brown
Dec 14, 2021, 12:19:30 PM12/14/21
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(but nothing like how impossible it was during lockdown #1)
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Rod Speed
Dec 14, 2021, 2:57:37 PM12/14/21
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newshound <sradcl...@gmail.com> wrote
> alan_m wrote
from.
> alan_m wrote
>> Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
>>> poundland has no Walkers ready salted crisps...bummer
>> Its due to Brexit - there are now long delays delivering Walkers crisps
>> from China!
> Extra OT, I was amused to discover a little while ago that almost all
> Cadbury's Flakes are made in Egypt.
Because they have lots of camel turds there and that’s what they are made
>>> poundland has no Walkers ready salted crisps...bummer
>> Its due to Brexit - there are now long delays delivering Walkers crisps
>> from China!
> Extra OT, I was amused to discover a little while ago that almost all
> Cadbury's Flakes are made in Egypt.
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Nick Odell
Dec 16, 2021, 4:11:38 PM12/16/21
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that's double the alcohol content..
...and at £5 per bottle that's double the price of the Tesco and Asda
offerings too.
Nick
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