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Harry Bloomfield

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Sep 7, 2015, 2:31:16 PM9/7/15
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The hut has a very large wasp's nest in it again this year, as it has
had for the past few years. Other than setting fire to the hut, what
would work to deter them from making a new nest next year please?

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ss

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Sep 7, 2015, 5:46:22 PM9/7/15
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On 07/09/2015 19:58, Chris Hogg wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 19:31:12 +0100, Harry Bloomfield
> <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The hut has a very large wasp's nest in it again this year, as it has
>> had for the past few years. Other than setting fire to the hut, what
>> would work to deter them from making a new nest next year please?
>
> Find out where they're coming in and put a fine mesh screen over the
> hole, or block it completely with e.g. foam filler, this winter. But I
> guess you've already tried that, as it's a pretty obvious thing to do!
>
> The textbooks will tell you that every nest is started from scratch by
> a new queen after she's emerged from winter hibernation, and that old
> nests are just empty shells with no live or active wasps in them. But
> if you've been getting nests in the same place for several years in
> succession, something must be attracting them to the site. Do you
> clear out the old nest every year before the following Spring? It may
> have a residual smell that attracts a young queen looking for a nest
> site in Spring. Painting the hut with smelly creosote, Jeys Fluid or
> diesel may repel them, but will probably repel you as well!
>

"Wasps do not generally return to the same place year after year,
however some roofs are favoured for their position and habitat."

I have had for a couple of years wasps trying to build a nest in my
shed, I catch them early and use a fly spray, then run like hell. I do
this a couple of times when there are few wasps around and it just kills
them off and stops the nest building.
I think you need to catch them at the beginning of the season before the
colony builds up as they are agressive little s....!

Tim Lamb

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Sep 7, 2015, 6:15:52 PM9/7/15
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In message <mn.3c937df94f...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk>, Harry
Bloomfield <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> writes
>The hut has a very large wasp's nest in it again this year, as it has
>had for the past few years. Other than setting fire to the hut, what
>would work to deter them from making a new nest next year please?

My wife has great faith in the imitation wasps nest hung under our
eaves. I think the theory is that the new Queen sees this humungous
established nest and decides to try elsewhere.

It didn't work very well this year:-(

They need a source of softened wood to chew up for the nest. Perhaps
your hut has reached the appropriate stage of decomposition:-)

I find Nippon nest destroyer effective if the nest is in sight. I also
try to kill the young Queens when they feed on the Cotoneaster blossom
just outside my office window.

With the funny spring this year, there were lots of alternative food
sources so we had several nests.
>

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Bob Eager

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Sep 7, 2015, 6:52:25 PM9/7/15
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 23:06:59 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

> My wife has great faith in the imitation wasps nest hung under our
> eaves. I think the theory is that the new Queen sees this humungous
> established nest and decides to try elsewhere.

We've been free of wasps for the last three years, since we put up a
Waspinator.

Not that it proves a great deal!

Bill

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Sep 7, 2015, 7:35:08 PM9/7/15
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In message <apmrua19picdvl577...@4ax.com>, Chris Hogg
<m...@privacy.net> writes
>On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 19:31:12 +0100, Harry Bloomfield
><harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>The hut has a very large wasp's nest in it again this year, as it has
>>had for the past few years. Other than setting fire to the hut, what
>>would work to deter them from making a new nest next year please?

>. Painting the hut with smelly creosote, Jeys Fluid or
>diesel may repel them, but will probably repel you as well!

The diesel will certainly make setting fire to the hut easier, but may
take a bit of explaining to the insurance company. I'm sad to say that
both Jeys Fluid and Creosote would both probably attract me, does anyone
else like the smell of these?

If you remember take a look at the beginning of next year and try to
spot a new nest in the making. We regularly had them in the stable at
home and the first time I'd notice them they were only the size of a
ping-pong ball and easily destroyed, preferable with the queen at home.
Any product with pyrethrin in it does a good job and is harmless to
people.
>

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Broadback

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Sep 8, 2015, 3:03:22 AM9/8/15
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3 find that once the wasp nest is established the best thing is to go
out after dark and spray with one of the wasp killer products. Has
worked a number of times for me with not ill effects, except on the wasps!

Tim Lamb

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Sep 8, 2015, 3:26:39 AM9/8/15
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In message <070920152330079955%timst...@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timst...@greenbee.net> writes
>>They need a source of softened wood to chew up for the nest. Perhap
>>s your hut has reached the appropriate stage of decomposition:-)
>
>Doesn't need to be that soft does it? They can scrape it off shed doors
>and suchlike.

Weathered? They seem particular about which wood will suit.
>

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Ian Jackson

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Sep 8, 2015, 5:51:55 AM9/8/15
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In message <d56ip7...@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
<news...@eager.cx> writes
There are several YouTube videos about the Waspinator.

I note that it seems to be something like 'sage green' in colour. I have
a garden seat painted sage green, and on a sunny day, it gets covered in
loads of small flies. I presume that there's something about that colour
that attracts them (possibly their eyes are particularly sensitive to
it?). As others (and the videos) have said, the wasps are probably
fooled into thinking that there are others already in possession of the
territory, so they look elsewhere to build their nest.


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michael adams

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Sep 8, 2015, 7:37:07 AM9/8/15
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"Harry Bloomfield" <harry...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The hut has a very large wasp's nest in it again this year, as it has had for the past
> few years. Other than setting fire to the hut, what would work to deter them from
> making a new nest next year please?

I've had successive wasps's nests in my shed and in my roof
space for years now and have never been troubled by them.
If there are babies or young children around who might
be at risk then obviously things would be different.
But I find their nest building activity a source of
inspiration myself, same as the did the Chinese with
the invention of paper, supposedly.




michael adams

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Sep 8, 2015, 8:25:22 AM9/8/15
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On 07/09/2015 19:31, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> The hut has a very large wasp's nest in it again this year, as it has
> had for the past few years. Other than setting fire to the hut, what
> would work to deter them from making a new nest next year please?

Leave the old one in place.
Simple.

Brian-Gaff

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Sep 8, 2015, 9:02:57 AM9/8/15
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Block every hole with narrow mesh, ie smaller than a wasp.
Brian

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Dave Liquorice

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Sep 8, 2015, 3:58:07 PM9/8/15
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 22:46:16 +0100, ss wrote:

> "Wasps do not generally return to the same place year after year,
> however some roofs are favoured for their position and habitat."
>
> I have had for a couple of years wasps trying to build a nest in my
> shed, I catch them early and use a fly spray, then run like hell.
> I do this a couple of times when there are few wasps around and it just
> kills them off and stops the nest building.

Aye, getting at 'em at the ping pong ball stage is the easiest. Also
note the hibernation bit, the queens may well be hibernating in the
shed/hut/WHY, a good dose of wasp 'n fly killer a couple of times in
the winter will put paid to them.

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Andy Burns

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Sep 8, 2015, 3:58:46 PM9/8/15
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Ian Jackson wrote:

> There are several YouTube videos about the Waspinator.

Not from the same manufacturer as the Moleinator, I presume?

Tim Lamb

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Sep 8, 2015, 4:49:47 PM9/8/15
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In message <otKdnV5pB5tuoHLI...@brightview.co.uk>, Andy
Burns <usenet....@adslpipe.co.uk> writes
>Ian Jackson wrote:
>
>> There are several YouTube videos about the Waspinator.
>
>Not from the same manufacturer as the Moleinator, I presume?

Look up rodenator pro for the ultimate solution!
>

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Tim Lamb

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Sep 8, 2015, 4:49:47 PM9/8/15
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In message <nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@srv1.howhill.co.uk>, Dave
Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> writes
Umm.. I've found them under the lap on big 6 roof sheets.
>

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Dave Liquorice

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Sep 11, 2015, 9:58:06 PM9/11/15
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 21:25:28 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

>> Also note the hibernation bit, the queens may well be hibernating
in
>> the shed/hut/WHY, a good dose of wasp 'n fly killer a couple of
times
>> in the winter will put paid to them.
>
> Umm.. I've found them under the lap on big 6 roof sheets.

If the wasp can get in so can the fly killer. It's pretty toxic
stuff, even domestic grade. Give the recomended few seconds spray in
the middle of a normal sized room with doors and windows shut and any
flys/wasps in there will be dead or dying in 30 mins.

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Ian Jackson

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Sep 12, 2015, 3:34:17 AM9/12/15
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You used to be able get those adjustable Vapona slow-release devices -
but apparently the EU decided they were too effective/useful for
domestic purposes.

I have a fair bit of moss on the roof, and in April, the tiny yellow
flowers attract the wasps. They then make their way into the loft. To
deter them, each spring I used to install three or four Vapona devices
in the loft (which would also do for any woodworm in the fly phase of
their lives). Several month later, I would replace them. I now have to
simulate them by spraying fly/wasp killer onto an opened-up newspaper,
and then re-folding the newspaper.

Unfortunately, fly/wasp killer doesn't seem to deter those pesky
'daddy-longlegs' spiders.
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