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fred

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Oct 9, 2022, 7:51:25 AM10/9/22
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Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions knickers as beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the connection. Anyone any ideas?

ARW

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Oct 9, 2022, 8:04:27 AM10/9/22
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On 09/10/2022 12:51, fred wrote:
> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions knickers as beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the connection. Anyone any ideas?

It's a word I have heard in South and West Yorkshire. Probably more to
mean underpants than knickers up here.



Colin Bignell

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Oct 9, 2022, 8:42:37 AM10/9/22
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On 09/10/2022 12:51, fred wrote:
> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions knickers as beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the connection. Anyone any ideas?

Possibly a derivation of Cockney rhyming slang for trousers or breeches.
Trousers = bags = trolley wags = trolley.

Thought to have originated with costermongers to whom trolley wag may
have meant something in relation to the carts, or trolleys, they used.


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Robin

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Oct 9, 2022, 8:59:01 AM10/9/22
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On 09/10/2022 12:51, fred wrote:
> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions knickers as beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the connection. Anyone any ideas?

The OED has it with that meaning in dialect and schoolgirl slang.

Possibly from trolly lace but also possibly from "trolley wags" (for
"bags" - ie trousers).


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JNugent

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Oct 9, 2022, 9:22:01 AM10/9/22
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Wasn't it used in that 1980s TV ad for Boddington's?

JNugent

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Oct 9, 2022, 10:16:22 AM10/9/22
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Cursitor Doom

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Oct 9, 2022, 12:42:12 PM10/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 04:51:23 -0700 (PDT), fred <tpmc...@gmail.com>
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>Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions knickers as beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the connection. Anyone any ideas?

I'm still not sure. I used the phrase, "Get yer trollies off" as a
pick up line to birds I fancied back in the day. Never worked though.

Kron

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Oct 9, 2022, 2:00:13 PM10/9/22
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 03:42:08 +1100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com>
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And still doesnt for you, that's why you had
to head off to the IoM and fuck the sheep..

Peeler

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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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SteveW

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Oct 9, 2022, 6:21:42 PM10/9/22
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I've certainly heard it used in Manchester.


Brian Gaff

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Oct 10, 2022, 3:34:43 AM10/10/22
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Maybe the definition of a trolley has changed over the years like many have.
Back in the old days in the USA a trolley was like a cable car system where
the movement was via an under the road wire that trolleys clamped to to gain
traction
Before supermarkets, trolleys could be what you used to move suitcases
around and so it goes.
Brian

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fred

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Oct 10, 2022, 4:32:55 AM10/10/22
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Thanks to all for the elucidation, especially the link to the Bodingtons ad

Peeler

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Oct 10, 2022, 4:39:08 AM10/10/22
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 08:34:37 +0100, Brainless & Daft, the TV-watching and
pity-baiting senile "blind" mole, blathered again:

> Maybe the definition of a trolley has changed over the years like many have.
> Back in the old days in the USA a trolley was like a cable car system where
> the movement was via an under the road wire that trolleys clamped to to gain
> traction
> Before supermarkets, trolleys could be what you used to move suitcases
> around and so it goes.
> Brainless & Daft

Pretending to be "blind" doesn't give you the right to bullshit constantly
about each and every topic, you disgusting handicapped cretin!

Rod Speed

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Oct 10, 2022, 4:40:22 AM10/10/22
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:34:37 +1100, Brian Gaff <brian...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Maybe the definition of a trolley has changed over the years like many
> have.

Nope, we have always had shopping trolleys even before supermarkets.

> Back in the old days in the USA a trolley was like a cable car system
> where
> the movement was via an under the road wire that trolleys clamped to to
> gain
> traction

That was just one use of that word.

> Before supermarkets, trolleys could be what you used to move suitcases
> around

And when going to the local corner shop run by Maggie Thatcher's parents.

> and so it goes.

Peeler

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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Max Demian

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Oct 10, 2022, 6:06:08 AM10/10/22
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On 10/10/2022 08:34, Brian Gaff wrote:

> Maybe the definition of a trolley has changed over the years like many have.
> Back in the old days in the USA a trolley was like a cable car system where
> the movement was via an under the road wire that trolleys clamped to to gain
> traction

I think those were (and are) called cable cars. Trolley cars (or
trolleys) are what Americans call trams, running on rails and with
trolley bars picking up power from overhead lines. Americans use the
word tram to refer to cable cars suspended from overhead wires.

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Bob Eager

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Oct 10, 2022, 6:30:18 AM10/10/22
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When I was growing up, trolleys were trolley *buses*. They superseded
what my mum called trams.

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"fred" <tpmc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions knickers as
> beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the connection. Anyone any ideas?

Mel(anie) Sykes referred to "trollies" in one of her Boddingtons (Cream of Manchester)
beer ads
which first appeared on national TV in er, 1997.

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Oct 10, 2022, 9:13:55 AM10/10/22
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Normally round here we used, "Drop yer drawers, it's Santa Claus."
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JNugent

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Oct 10, 2022, 10:00:28 AM10/10/22
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On 10/10/2022 09:32 am, fred wrote:

> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 8:34:43 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:

>> Maybe the definition of a trolley has changed over the years like many have.
>> Back in the old days in the USA a trolley was like a cable car system where
>> the movement was via an under the road wire that trolleys clamped to to gain
>> traction
>> Before supermarkets, trolleys could be what you used to move suitcases
>> around and so it goes.

>> This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
>> The Sofa of Brian Gaff...
>> bri...@blueyonder.co.uk

>> Blind user, so no pictures please
>> Note this Signature is meaningless.!
>> "fred" <tpmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions knickers
>>> as beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the connection.
>>> Anyone any ideas?
>
> Thanks to all for the elucidation, especially the link to the Bodingtons ad

You are welcome.

David

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Oct 10, 2022, 2:29:42 PM10/10/22
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On Sun, 09 Oct 2022 04:51:23 -0700, fred wrote:

> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions
> knickers as being called trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the
> connection. Anyone any ideas?

In t'North trollies and keks were slang for trousers.

No idea why.

Cheers


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Oct 10, 2022, 3:18:45 PM10/10/22
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"SteveW" <st...@walker-family.me.uk> wrote in message
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> On 09/10/2022 13:04, ARW wrote:
>> On 09/10/2022 12:51, fred wrote:
>>> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions
>>> knickers as beingcalled trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the
>>> connection. Anyone any ideas?
>>
>> It's a word I have heard in South and West Yorkshire. Probably more to
>> mean underpants than knickers up here.

In S/W Yorkshire, "kecks" (occasionally "kegs") is the more common term for
underpants. As in "he were that frightened he kacked his kecks".

JNugent

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Oct 10, 2022, 3:38:12 PM10/10/22
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In Liverpool schools, 60+ years ago, "kecks" was the normal term for
trousers. I don't remember any slang word for underpants.

The Other John

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Oct 10, 2022, 5:27:30 PM10/10/22
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 20:38:07 +0100, JNugent wrote:

> In Liverpool schools, 60+ years ago, "kecks" was the normal term for
> trousers. I don't remember any slang word for underpants.

When I was a nipper 70+ years ago down here in the sarf we called trousers
'trucks'.

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Cursitor Doom

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Oct 10, 2022, 5:46:47 PM10/10/22
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That's classy. You must have lived somewhere posh.

The Natural Philosopher

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Oct 11, 2022, 5:01:32 AM10/11/22
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On 10/10/2022 19:29, David wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Oct 2022 04:51:23 -0700, fred wrote:
>
>> Latest Kate Atkinson set in London post first world war mentions
>> knickers as being called trollies. I'm baffled by this. Cant see the
>> connection. Anyone any ideas?
>
> In t'North trollies and keks were slang for trousers.

I think keks is a sort of manging of 'breeks' = scots for breeches
>
> No idea why.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Dave R
>

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