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Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 9:42:08 AM3/9/23
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Might be OT.
Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
replacement box!
My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
Any thoughts?
--
Tim Lamb
Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
replacement box!
My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
Any thoughts?
--
Tim Lamb
Adrian Caspersz
Mar 9, 2023, 10:34:53 AM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
FWIW I'm one of a surely growing number that have totally given up
> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
watching films and drama/fiction on TV. I'm not that entertained by
people constantly screaming at each other or plotting criminal acts.
There is plenty of other content out there on services from YouTube,
Odysee to Nebula, etc...
Documentaries, News, History, Crafts... erm, D-I-Y ....
--
Adrian C
Michael Chare
Mar 9, 2023, 10:55:32 AM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
you can view old programmes. This certainly reduces the need for a PVR.
If I use the Channel 4 app I can watch the first 2023 Formula 1 race
without the adverts. Even my PVR recording still has he adverts.
--
Michael Chare
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 11:17:02 AM3/9/23
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In message <k6ucko...@mid.individual.net>, Adrian Caspersz
<em...@here.invalid> writes
John Wayne and even older Westerns.
up in here but find TV repair/furbish stuff very formulaic.
garden to play with.
>
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Tim Lamb
<em...@here.invalid> writes
>On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>input and
>
>FWIW I'm one of a surely growing number that have totally given up
>watching films and drama/fiction on TV. I'm not that entertained by
>people constantly screaming at each other or plotting criminal acts.
Indeed. I avoid watching recent action films but can enjoy re-watching
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>input and
>
>FWIW I'm one of a surely growing number that have totally given up
>watching films and drama/fiction on TV. I'm not that entertained by
>people constantly screaming at each other or plotting criminal acts.
John Wayne and even older Westerns.
>
>There is plenty of other content out there on services from YouTube,
>Odysee to Nebula, etc...
I'll watch a U-tube repair breakdown or something that has been pointed
>There is plenty of other content out there on services from YouTube,
>Odysee to Nebula, etc...
up in here but find TV repair/furbish stuff very formulaic.
>
>Documentaries, News, History, Crafts... erm, D-I-Y ....
Is that daytime TV:-) I've got an acre of farm barns and half acre
>Documentaries, News, History, Crafts... erm, D-I-Y ....
garden to play with.
>
--
Tim Lamb
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 11:17:02 AM3/9/23
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In message <tucvhg$1gnh5$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
<mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
The very nice thing about the Topfield was the ability to fast forward
through the adverts:-)
>
--
Tim Lamb
<mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
through the adverts:-)
>
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Tim Lamb
Davey
Mar 9, 2023, 11:38:06 AM3/9/23
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secs.
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Davey.
The Natural Philosopher
Mar 9, 2023, 11:51:53 AM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 15:34, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>>
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
>
> FWIW I'm one of a surely growing number that have totally given up
> watching films and drama/fiction on TV. I'm not that entertained by
> people constantly screaming at each other or plotting criminal acts.
>
Well not quite the same here - I like a nice murder, but pretty much
> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>>
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
>
> FWIW I'm one of a surely growing number that have totally given up
> watching films and drama/fiction on TV. I'm not that entertained by
> people constantly screaming at each other or plotting criminal acts.
>
given up on all BBC and ITV . Seen just anbout all the Marple and Poirot
I can handle and the new output is super woke and unwatchable,
But Talking Pictures, Film 4 and Great Movies [Action] still come up
with the odd watchable film
> There is plenty of other content out there on services from YouTube,
> Odysee to Nebula, etc...
>
> Documentaries, News, History, Crafts... erm, D-I-Y ....
>
--
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.
"Saki"
Michael Chare
Mar 9, 2023, 11:56:33 AM3/9/23
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See www.world-of-satellite.com
and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could tell
you his email address.
--
Michael Chare
GB
Mar 9, 2023, 12:11:17 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 16:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> But Talking Pictures, Film 4 and Great Movies [Action] still come up
> with the odd watchable film
>
Talking Pictures showed/shows all the old Maigret films. I remember
> But Talking Pictures, Film 4 and Great Movies [Action] still come up
> with the odd watchable film
>
those from my childhood. :)
Rod Speed
Mar 9, 2023, 12:15:05 PM3/9/23
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 02:34:47 +1100, Adrian Caspersz <em...@here.invalid>
wrote:
> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> FWIW I'm one of a surely growing number that have totally given up
> watching films and drama/fiction on TV. I'm not that entertained by
> people constantly screaming at each other or plotting criminal acts.
I was like that for years but with the dearth of anything worth
watching in our summer lull in Jan which we get every year,
did watch Line of Duty and didnt regret watching that.
> There is plenty of other content out there on services from YouTube,
> Odysee to Nebula, etc...
> Documentaries, News, History, Crafts... erm, D-I-Y ....
Not plenty imo, I found it hard to find enough in our Jan lull.
wrote:
> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> FWIW I'm one of a surely growing number that have totally given up
> watching films and drama/fiction on TV. I'm not that entertained by
> people constantly screaming at each other or plotting criminal acts.
watching in our summer lull in Jan which we get every year,
did watch Line of Duty and didnt regret watching that.
> There is plenty of other content out there on services from YouTube,
> Odysee to Nebula, etc...
> Documentaries, News, History, Crafts... erm, D-I-Y ....
alan_m
Mar 9, 2023, 12:20:56 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
> The very nice thing about the Topfield was the ability to fast forward
> through the adverts:-)
Many Topfield user migrated to the Enigma 2 boxes running OpenVix.
> through the adverts:-)
Most of the Enigma boxes are more suited to (free to air) satellite
(Freesat content) but there are a few with terrestrial tuners.
Openvix has many/most of the features of Mystuff although implemented in
a different way. fast forwarding or jumping over the adverts in delayed
play mode or recordings is easy with Openvix.
There is a learning curve with the setup and some technical knowledge is
an advantage but day to day you will probably only use a few buttons on
the remote.
Openvix
https://www.openvix.co.uk/
Enigma 2 boxes (most are enigma 2 boxes - the description of individual
boxes will confirm)
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial/digital-receivers
At least a dozen different manufactures at different price points and
specifications but even those at the £100 mark well exceed the
specification of a Toppy. An additional hard disk is required to make it
a PVR. The physically larger boxes will support internal large hard
disks but the physically small boxes require a external USB hard disk.
Enigma2/openvix supports recording to network drives.
Openvix/Enigma2 user support group
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/forum.php
--
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Peter Johnson
Mar 9, 2023, 1:12:50 PM3/9/23
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:20:52 +0000, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:
>On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>
>> The very nice thing about the Topfield was the ability to fast forward
>> through the adverts:-)
>
>Many Topfield user migrated to the Enigma 2 boxes running OpenVix.
I'm a Topfield user who migrated to the Humax Aura Freeview box, which
has three tuners, skipping the ads by configuring the keys on a
Logitech Harmony universal remote. Unfortunately while the Aura is
still available, 1Tb and 2 Tb models, Humax appear to have lost
interest it it and Logitech have given up on programmable TV remotes
although I suppose that there must be other makers.
wrote:
>On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>
>> The very nice thing about the Topfield was the ability to fast forward
>> through the adverts:-)
>
>Many Topfield user migrated to the Enigma 2 boxes running OpenVix.
has three tuners, skipping the ads by configuring the keys on a
Logitech Harmony universal remote. Unfortunately while the Aura is
still available, 1Tb and 2 Tb models, Humax appear to have lost
interest it it and Logitech have given up on programmable TV remotes
although I suppose that there must be other makers.
David Wade
Mar 9, 2023, 1:27:14 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-External-500GB-USB-Aluminum-Chromebook/dp/B07BCP3PYL/
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
perhaps?
video showing how
https://www.lg.com/uk/support/product-help/CT00008334-1435837452345
> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>
> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>
> Any thoughts?
The built in PVR in my LG works OK. Not as nice as my BT Freeview box
but OK.
Dave
R D S
Mar 9, 2023, 1:28:04 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>
>
> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
I tend to watch catch up, but we've a Humax 1100, it works well at
recording and replaying the the Freesat stuff
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 1:30:58 PM3/9/23
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In message <k6uirk...@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
At a glance that set up looks outside my technical competence:-( I
already have i-player and my daughter currently shares her Netflix
account (for how long!).
Is terrestrial TV going to see me out or should I be getting a dish? The
last installer here blew up the Toppy:-(
Current ambition is to save and time shift some of the afternoon output.
>
--
Tim Lamb
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
already have i-player and my daughter currently shares her Netflix
account (for how long!).
Is terrestrial TV going to see me out or should I be getting a dish? The
last installer here blew up the Toppy:-(
Current ambition is to save and time shift some of the afternoon output.
>
--
Tim Lamb
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 1:30:59 PM3/9/23
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In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
<mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
boosted conventional aerial.
A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
storey garage!
or thereabouts. I dare say a local computer fixer could do it. I have
the parts. I have an idea the problem stems from the supply to the
aerial booster finding a way though the aerial system.
--
Tim Lamb
<mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>
>For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>See www.world-of-satellite.com
>and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on a
>
>For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>See www.world-of-satellite.com
>and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
boosted conventional aerial.
A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
storey garage!
>
>There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could tell
>you his email address.
I have those details, thanks. ISTR they had to be posted to Southampton
>There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could tell
>you his email address.
or thereabouts. I dare say a local computer fixer could do it. I have
the parts. I have an idea the problem stems from the supply to the
aerial booster finding a way though the aerial system.
--
Tim Lamb
Peeler
Mar 9, 2023, 1:35:30 PM3/9/23
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID: <g4t0jt...@mid.individual.net>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 2:00:27 PM3/9/23
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In message <mt7k0ilf107nbe3g8...@4ax.com>, Peter Johnson
<pe...@parksidewood.nospam> writes
Humax is the fall back plan. High definition seems to need a lot of
storage. Currently I revert to channel 75 (60's pop) for the ad break.
Being forced to watch ads would be a set back!
--
Tim Lamb
<pe...@parksidewood.nospam> writes
storage. Currently I revert to channel 75 (60's pop) for the ad break.
Being forced to watch ads would be a set back!
--
Tim Lamb
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 2:00:27 PM3/9/23
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In message <tud8du$1i87f$1...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
<g4...@dave.invalid> writes
Looks possible. My LG manual doesn't cover this activity.
together with a square symbol button, purpose unknown.
I have yet to find a use for any of the 4 coloured buttons!
--
Tim Lamb
<g4...@dave.invalid> writes
>On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>invest in a replacement box!
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>
>
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-External-500GB-USB-Aluminum-Chromebook
>/dp/B07BCP3PYL/ perhaps?
Powered from the TV?
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>invest in a replacement box!
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>
>
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-External-500GB-USB-Aluminum-Chromebook
>/dp/B07BCP3PYL/ perhaps?
Looks possible. My LG manual doesn't cover this activity.
>
>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>
>not sure why you think this would be a facility..
I don't but wifi capability is marketed on almost everything else!
>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>
>not sure why you think this would be a facility..
>
>> Any thoughts?
>
>The built in PVR in my LG works OK. Not as nice as my BT Freeview box
>but OK.
Ah. My button set has Rec, Fast Forward, Play, Pause and fast rewind
>> Any thoughts?
>
>The built in PVR in my LG works OK. Not as nice as my BT Freeview box
>but OK.
together with a square symbol button, purpose unknown.
I have yet to find a use for any of the 4 coloured buttons!
--
Tim Lamb
Davey
Mar 9, 2023, 2:06:35 PM3/9/23
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--
Davey.
alan_m
Mar 9, 2023, 2:56:30 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:37, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Humax is the fall back plan. High definition seems to need a lot of
> storage.
Some SD is now broadcast on HD MUxs - that's why the Toppy with only SD
> Humax is the fall back plan. High definition seems to need a lot of
> storage.
tuners is missing some channels. The Toppy design must be around 20
years old. After very many years owning a Toppy I switched to an Engima
2 box in 2014.
Approx 2Gbytes per hour for HD - these days 1Tbyte disks are cheap (500
hours of HD recording).
500G drive approx £30
1T drive approx £50/60
A PVR doesn't require a high performance drive. A slower 2.5" drive
running at 5400rpm (rather than 7200rpm) will run quieter and cooler.
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 3:12:02 PM3/9/23
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In message <tudann$1iq7v$1...@dont-email.me>, Davey <da...@example.invalid>
writes
Snip
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Tim Lamb
writes
Snip
>> Ah. My button set has Rec, Fast Forward, Play, Pause and fast rewind
>> together with a square symbol button, purpose unknown.
>> I have yet to find a use for any of the 4 coloured buttons!
>>
>
>BBC Red Button.
Ah! Something I never use.
>> together with a square symbol button, purpose unknown.
>> I have yet to find a use for any of the 4 coloured buttons!
>>
>
>BBC Red Button.
--
Tim Lamb
Jeff Layman
Mar 9, 2023, 3:27:13 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:37, Tim Lamb wrote:
Manhattan. Panasonic no longer do a simple PVR; all have DVD/Blu-ray
built, which adds to the price. My Panasonic has been fairly reliable,
although I use a timer to switch it off for 15 minutes each day (around
5am). If I don't do that, after a week or so it locks up until it's
turned off and on again.
I've looked at the Manhattan T3-R, and it seems ok, except that it
doesn't do slo-mo! It's also not had a software update in 21 months.
Are any of these products actually available at present due to the chip
shortage?
--
Jeff
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 4:14:24 PM3/9/23
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In message <tudfep$1bud8$1...@dont-email.me>, Jeff Layman
<Je...@invalid.invalid> writes
Humax and Manhattan seem available. We don't currently have a DVD player
unless I can feed from my desktop.
Not spotted a Panasonic yet. Oh yes. John Lewis.
>
--
Tim Lamb
<Je...@invalid.invalid> writes
unless I can feed from my desktop.
Not spotted a Panasonic yet. Oh yes. John Lewis.
>
--
Tim Lamb
David Wade
Mar 9, 2023, 4:25:44 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tud8du$1i87f$1...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
> <g4...@dave.invalid> writes
>> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> Might be OT.
>>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>> my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>> input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>> invest in a replacement box!
>>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-External-500GB-USB-Aluminum-Chromebook
>> /dp/B07BCP3PYL/ perhaps?
>
> Powered from the TV?
Yes. I have used a variety of laptop drives powered from the USB port on
> In message <tud8du$1i87f$1...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
> <g4...@dave.invalid> writes
>> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> Might be OT.
>>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>> my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>> input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>> invest in a replacement box!
>>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-External-500GB-USB-Aluminum-Chromebook
>> /dp/B07BCP3PYL/ perhaps?
>
> Powered from the TV?
the TV. Both an LG and a Panasonic
>>
>> video showing how
>>
>> https://www.lg.com/uk/support/product-help/CT00008334-1435837452345
>
> Looks possible. My LG manual doesn't cover this activity.
>>
>>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>>
>> not sure why you think this would be a facility..
>
> I don't but wifi capability is marketed on almost everything else!
>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> The built in PVR in my LG works OK. Not as nice as my BT Freeview box
>> but OK.
>
> Ah. My button set has Rec, Fast Forward, Play, Pause and fast rewind
> together with a square symbol button, purpose unknown.
> I have yet to find a use for any of the 4 coloured buttons!
>
these work as expected, the square is international standard for "stop".
If you use one of the built in apps, iPlayer, All4, My5 then again as
expected.
Dave
David Wade
Mar 9, 2023, 4:31:39 PM3/9/23
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applications. Plenty available used on E-bay e.g.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114725782541
Dave
Jeff Layman
Mar 9, 2023, 4:51:31 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 21:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tudfep$1bud8$1...@dont-email.me>, Jeff Layman
>> For Freeview, I reckon you've got a choice of Humax, Panasonic, or
>> Manhattan. Panasonic no longer do a simple PVR; all have DVD/Blu-ray
>> built, which adds to the price. My Panasonic has been fairly reliable,
>> although I use a timer to switch it off for 15 minutes each day (around
>> 5am). If I don't do that, after a week or so it locks up until it's
>> turned off and on again.
>>
>> I've looked at the Manhattan T3-R, and it seems ok, except that it
>> doesn't do slo-mo! It's also not had a software update in 21 months.
>>
>> Are any of these products actually available at present due to the chip
>> shortage?
> Humax and Manhattan seem available. We don't currently have a DVD player
> unless I can feed from my desktop.
>
> Not spotted a Panasonic yet. Oh yes. John Lewis.
Richer sounds do them too.
--
Jeff
> In message <tudfep$1bud8$1...@dont-email.me>, Jeff Layman
>> For Freeview, I reckon you've got a choice of Humax, Panasonic, or
>> Manhattan. Panasonic no longer do a simple PVR; all have DVD/Blu-ray
>> built, which adds to the price. My Panasonic has been fairly reliable,
>> although I use a timer to switch it off for 15 minutes each day (around
>> 5am). If I don't do that, after a week or so it locks up until it's
>> turned off and on again.
>>
>> I've looked at the Manhattan T3-R, and it seems ok, except that it
>> doesn't do slo-mo! It's also not had a software update in 21 months.
>>
>> Are any of these products actually available at present due to the chip
>> shortage?
> Humax and Manhattan seem available. We don't currently have a DVD player
> unless I can feed from my desktop.
>
> Not spotted a Panasonic yet. Oh yes. John Lewis.
--
Jeff
Tim Lamb
Mar 9, 2023, 4:57:03 PM3/9/23
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In message <tudj7n$1k469$2...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
<g4...@dave.invalid> writes
Indeed. My sort of pricing:-)
Still get the adverts...
Thanks.
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<g4...@dave.invalid> writes
Still get the adverts...
Thanks.
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Michael Chare
Mar 9, 2023, 6:02:30 PM3/9/23
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John Miller
Mar 9, 2023, 8:11:48 PM3/9/23
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had none in stock and couldn't give me a date when they would become
available. The buttons on right and left of the OK button will jump the
recording forward or back by 15 seconds per press but if you hold the
button it will whizz forward past the adverts. Will also record up to 3
programmes at once. I've been pleased with it as a replacement for my
TalkTalk box.
John Rumm
Mar 9, 2023, 9:40:31 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
Well basically, plug in a USB hard drive, SSD drive, or thumb drive...
> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
However this kind of recording is limited. It is ok for pausing live TV,
but for recording it can probably only record the program you are
watching due to lack of tuners.
> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>
A good project for DIY
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and running
plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as collating and
organising everything while also sucking in rich media data including a
real time program guide. It makes for a very Topfield (when augmented
with better firmware / or TAP) experience but with added bells and
whistles.
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Mar 9, 2023, 9:41:09 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tucvhg$1gnh5$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
> In message <tucvhg$1gnh5$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> Might be OT.
>>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>> my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>> input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>> invest in a replacement box!
>>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>> Might be OT.
>>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>> my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>> input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>> invest in a replacement box!
>>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> If you have a TV which can run apps such as ITVX, iPlayer, Channel4
>> etc you can view old programmes. This certainly reduces the need for a
>> PVR. If I use the Channel 4 app I can watch the first 2023 Formula 1
>> race without the adverts. Even my PVR recording still has he adverts.
>
>> etc you can view old programmes. This certainly reduces the need for a
>> PVR. If I use the Channel 4 app I can watch the first 2023 Formula 1
>> race without the adverts. Even my PVR recording still has he adverts.
>
> The very nice thing about the Topfield was the ability to fast forward
> through the adverts:-)
I have plex set to skip them on recording, so I don't have to!
> through the adverts:-)
John Rumm
Mar 9, 2023, 9:43:29 PM3/9/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>
>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>
> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on a
> boosted conventional aerial.
>
> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
> storey garage!
>>
>> There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>> Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could
>> tell you his email address.
>
> I have those details, thanks. ISTR they had to be posted to Southampton
> or thereabouts.
Its usually a set of 5 electrolytic caps that does for toppy.
> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>
>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>
> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on a
> boosted conventional aerial.
>
> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
> storey garage!
>>
>> There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>> Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could
>> tell you his email address.
>
> I have those details, thanks. ISTR they had to be posted to Southampton
> or thereabouts.
> I dare say a local computer fixer could do it. I have
> the parts. I have an idea the problem stems from the supply to the
> aerial booster finding a way though the aerial system.
coax - it ought not bother anything else connected to it.
alan_m
Mar 10, 2023, 3:18:24 AM3/10/23
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On 10/03/2023 02:43, John Rumm wrote:
> On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>>
>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on
>> a boosted conventional aerial.
>>
>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>> storey garage!
>>>
>>> There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>>> Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could
>>> tell you his email address.
>>
>> I have those details, thanks. ISTR they had to be posted to
>> Southampton or thereabouts.
>
> Its usually a set of 5 electrolytic caps that does for toppy.
>
>> I dare say a local computer fixer could do it. I have the parts. I
>> have an idea the problem stems from the supply to the aerial booster
>> finding a way though the aerial system.
>
If the power supply has gone way out of spec, which was the common
> On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>>
>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on
>> a boosted conventional aerial.
>>
>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>> storey garage!
>>>
>>> There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>>> Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could
>>> tell you his email address.
>>
>> I have those details, thanks. ISTR they had to be posted to
>> Southampton or thereabouts.
>
> Its usually a set of 5 electrolytic caps that does for toppy.
>
>> I dare say a local computer fixer could do it. I have the parts. I
>> have an idea the problem stems from the supply to the aerial booster
>> finding a way though the aerial system.
>
problem on a Toppy, one of the elevated power supply voltages takes out
the transistor associated with tuning. 10 years ago it was recommended
that more than 5 capacitors were replaced in the power supply. 15 years
ago it was recommended that only one needed replacing but later it was
found that others failed, but just took a bit longer.
> It is quite common to have line power for masthead amps running up the
> coax - it ought not bother anything else connected to it.
>
Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 5:24:53 AM3/10/23
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In message <k707ec...@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
I replaced all 5.
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
>
>> It is quite common to have line power for masthead amps running up the
>> coax - it ought not bother anything else connected to it.
>>
>
>+1
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Tim Lamb
>> It is quite common to have line power for masthead amps running up the
>> coax - it ought not bother anything else connected to it.
>>
>
>+1
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Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 5:24:53 AM3/10/23
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In message <tue5gd$1n10o$3...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
time.
power supply was replaced and some possibly injudicious aerial cable
swaps. What would be the effect of 12V dc fed to the Toppy aerial input
socket?
--
Tim Lamb
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
>On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>><mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace
>>on a boosted conventional aerial.
>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>>storey garage!
>>>
>>> There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>>>Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could
>>>tell you his email address.
>> I have those details, thanks. ISTR they had to be posted to
>>Southampton or thereabouts.
>
>Its usually a set of 5 electrolytic caps that does for toppy.
Yes. I had to change mine. Said to be dodgy Chinese electrolyte at the
>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>><mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace
>>on a boosted conventional aerial.
>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>>storey garage!
>>>
>>> There was someone on Toppy.org called Andy Fraser who used to mend
>>>Toppys if that is of any interest. If you send me an email I could
>>>tell you his email address.
>> I have those details, thanks. ISTR they had to be posted to
>>Southampton or thereabouts.
>
>Its usually a set of 5 electrolytic caps that does for toppy.
time.
>
>> I dare say a local computer fixer could do it. I have the parts. I
>>have an idea the problem stems from the supply to the aerial booster
>>finding a way though the aerial system.
>
>It is quite common to have line power for masthead amps running up the
>coax - it ought not bother anything else connected to it.
No evidence other than the recorder not tunable after the mast head
>> I dare say a local computer fixer could do it. I have the parts. I
>>have an idea the problem stems from the supply to the aerial booster
>>finding a way though the aerial system.
>
>It is quite common to have line power for masthead amps running up the
>coax - it ought not bother anything else connected to it.
power supply was replaced and some possibly injudicious aerial cable
swaps. What would be the effect of 12V dc fed to the Toppy aerial input
socket?
--
Tim Lamb
Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 5:24:53 AM3/10/23
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In message <tue5aq$1n10o$1...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
Thanks
--
Tim Lamb
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
>On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>invest in a replacement box!
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
>Well basically, plug in a USB hard drive, SSD drive, or thumb drive...
>
>However this kind of recording is limited. It is ok for pausing live
>TV, but for recording it can probably only record the program you are
>watching due to lack of tuners.
Ok. As I suspected.
>> Might be OT.
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on
>>my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to
>>invest in a replacement box!
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
>Well basically, plug in a USB hard drive, SSD drive, or thumb drive...
>
>However this kind of recording is limited. It is ok for pausing live
>TV, but for recording it can probably only record the program you are
>watching due to lack of tuners.
>
>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>
>When my topfield died I decided against resuscitation and DIYed my own:
>
>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>> Any thoughts?
>
>A good project for DIY
>
>http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>
>With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and running
>plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as collating and
>organising everything while also sucking in rich media data including a
>real time program guide. It makes for a very Topfield (when augmented
>with better firmware / or TAP) experience but with added bells and
>whistles.
Ha ha! You know my limitations. I'll see how I get on with the refurbed
>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>
>When my topfield died I decided against resuscitation and DIYed my own:
>
>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>> Any thoughts?
>
>A good project for DIY
>
>http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>
>With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and running
>plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as collating and
>organising everything while also sucking in rich media data including a
>real time program guide. It makes for a very Topfield (when augmented
>with better firmware / or TAP) experience but with added bells and
>whistles.
Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
Thanks
--
Tim Lamb
Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 5:24:53 AM3/10/23
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In message <tue04g$1m305$1...@dont-email.me>, John Miller
<mille...@spamtrap.talktalk.net> writes
Good to know.
I have actually bought a refurbished Humax but can pass it on down the
family if adverts become unbearable:-)
--
Tim Lamb
<mille...@spamtrap.talktalk.net> writes
I have actually bought a refurbished Humax but can pass it on down the
family if adverts become unbearable:-)
--
Tim Lamb
alan_m
Mar 10, 2023, 5:54:05 AM3/10/23
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Max Demian
Mar 10, 2023, 6:38:58 AM3/10/23
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Max Demian
Max Demian
Mar 10, 2023, 6:57:00 AM3/10/23
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On 09/03/2023 21:25, David Wade wrote:
> On 09/03/2023 18:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tud8du$1i87f$1...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
>> <g4...@dave.invalid> writes
> On 09/03/2023 18:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tud8du$1i87f$1...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
>> <g4...@dave.invalid> writes
>>> The built in PVR in my LG works OK. Not as nice as my BT Freeview box
>>> but OK.
TVs with built-in PVR functionality usually have the disadvantage that
>>> but OK.
they only have one tuner and you can't record one programme while
watching another. They are often fussy as to what kind of external drive
they work with: usually they won't work with solid state drives (not USB
sticks anyway), and whether the external HDD needs its own power supply.
>> Ah. My button set has Rec, Fast Forward, Play, Pause and fast rewind
>> together with a square symbol button, purpose unknown.
>> I have yet to find a use for any of the 4 coloured buttons!
> These work in a variety of ways.
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Max Demian
Brian Gaff
Mar 10, 2023, 7:10:24 AM3/10/23
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Cannot the tuner just be replaced?. You don't usually mess inside uhf
tuners, as the exact placement of components is very important to stability.
Brian
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> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and I
> don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and I
> don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>
>
> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>
> Any thoughts?
> --
>
> Any thoughts?
> Tim Lamb
AnthonyL
Mar 10, 2023, 7:28:46 AM3/10/23
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 11:56:56 +0000, Max Demian
<max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>On 09/03/2023 21:25, David Wade wrote:
>> On 09/03/2023 18:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <tud8du$1i87f$1...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
>>> <g4...@dave.invalid> writes
>
>>>> The built in PVR in my LG works OK. Not as nice as my BT Freeview box
>>>> but OK.
>
>TVs with built-in PVR functionality usually have the disadvantage that
>they only have one tuner and you can't record one programme while
>watching another. They are often fussy as to what kind of external drive
>they work with: usually they won't work with solid state drives (not USB
>sticks anyway), and whether the external HDD needs its own power supply.
>
I have a LG49uj670v TV and the £20 Sonnics 250Gb solid state drive
<max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>On 09/03/2023 21:25, David Wade wrote:
>> On 09/03/2023 18:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <tud8du$1i87f$1...@dont-email.me>, David Wade
>>> <g4...@dave.invalid> writes
>
>>>> The built in PVR in my LG works OK. Not as nice as my BT Freeview box
>>>> but OK.
>
>TVs with built-in PVR functionality usually have the disadvantage that
>they only have one tuner and you can't record one programme while
>watching another. They are often fussy as to what kind of external drive
>they work with: usually they won't work with solid state drives (not USB
>sticks anyway), and whether the external HDD needs its own power supply.
>
works quite well. I don't record much on it as the one tuner in the
TV means that you have to be on the channel to record. It is however
very useful for pausing live TV or rewinding which couldn't be done
with a USB stick.
The Toppy is still the main PVR device, caps replaced, but at 12yrs
old I wonder how long it's got left.
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Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 7:41:29 AM3/10/23
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In message <tuf6nc$1v5he$1...@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
<brian...@gmail.com> writes
board involves major disassembly. Do-able but not included in my current
skill set.
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<brian...@gmail.com> writes
>Cannot the tuner just be replaced?. You don't usually mess inside uhf
>tuners, as the exact placement of components is very important to stability.
Access is the issue with the Toppy. Getting to the back of the circuit
>tuners, as the exact placement of components is very important to stability.
board involves major disassembly. Do-able but not included in my current
skill set.
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John Rumm
Mar 10, 2023, 8:16:14 AM3/10/23
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>> A good project for DIY
>>
>> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>>
>> With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and
>> running plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as
>> collating and organising everything while also sucking in rich media
>> data including a real time program guide. It makes for a very Topfield
>> (when augmented with better firmware / or TAP) experience but with
>> added bells and whistles.
>
> Ha ha! You know my limitations. I'll see how I get on with the refurbed
> Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
The complexity does vary significantly depending on where you start. If
>>
>> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>>
>> With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and
>> running plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as
>> collating and organising everything while also sucking in rich media
>> data including a real time program guide. It makes for a very Topfield
>> (when augmented with better firmware / or TAP) experience but with
>> added bells and whistles.
>
> Ha ha! You know my limitations. I'll see how I get on with the refurbed
> Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
you have a NAS or PC you don't mind leaving switched on, then the
software side is trivial, and boxed network tuners are basically fit and
forget.
(You can make it harder - by going for fully custom setups and rolling
your own on a raspberry pi, building you own NAS etc - but that is optional)
SteveW
Mar 10, 2023, 10:07:14 AM3/10/23
to
On 09/03/2023 16:38, Davey wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:13:33 +0000
> Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <tucvhg$1gnh5$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
> secs.
My OpenVix/Linux based satellite box is currently set so that 1 and 3 go
backwards and forwards 15 sec, 4 and 6 do 1 minute and 7 and 9 do 3 minutes.
There is a plug-in which I have not tried yet, that removes the ads from
a recording.
On the other hand, ITV catch-up forces every advert to run its full length.
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:13:33 +0000
> Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <tucvhg$1gnh5$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>> Might be OT.
>>>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff
>>>> on
>>>> my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>>> input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided
>>>> to invest in a replacement box!
>>>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>>>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff
>>>> on
>>>> my broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner
>>>> input and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided
>>>> to invest in a replacement box!
>>>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>>>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>>>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> If you have a TV which can run apps such as ITVX, iPlayer, Channel4
>>> etc you can view old programmes. This certainly reduces the need for
>>> a PVR. If I use the Channel 4 app I can watch the first 2023 Formula
>>> 1 race without the adverts. Even my PVR recording still has he
>>> adverts.
>>
>> The very nice thing about the Topfield was the ability to fast
>> forward through the adverts:-)
>>>
>>
>
> My Humax allows me to jump forward in a programmable period, say 15
>>> etc you can view old programmes. This certainly reduces the need for
>>> a PVR. If I use the Channel 4 app I can watch the first 2023 Formula
>>> 1 race without the adverts. Even my PVR recording still has he
>>> adverts.
>>
>> The very nice thing about the Topfield was the ability to fast
>> forward through the adverts:-)
>>>
>>
>
> secs.
My OpenVix/Linux based satellite box is currently set so that 1 and 3 go
backwards and forwards 15 sec, 4 and 6 do 1 minute and 7 and 9 do 3 minutes.
There is a plug-in which I have not tried yet, that removes the ads from
a recording.
On the other hand, ITV catch-up forces every advert to run its full length.
SteveW
Mar 10, 2023, 10:09:16 AM3/10/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
be satellite.
> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>
>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>
> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on a
> boosted conventional aerial.
>
> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
> storey garage!
OpenVix can use digital terrestrial tuners as well, it does not have to
>>
>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>
> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on a
> boosted conventional aerial.
>
> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
> storey garage!
be satellite.
Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 11:17:15 AM3/10/23
to
In message <tufaiq$1vn7u$2...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
bit is easy.
>
--
Tim Lamb
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
>On 10/03/2023 10:11, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tue5aq$1n10o$1...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>
>>> A good project for DIY
>>>
>>> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>>>
>>> With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and
>>>running plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as
>>>collating and organising everything while also sucking in rich media
>>>data including a real time program guide. It makes for a very
>>>Topfield (when augmented with better firmware / or TAP) experience
>>>but with added bells and whistles.
>> Ha ha! You know my limitations. I'll see how I get on with the
>>refurbed Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
>
>The complexity does vary significantly depending on where you start. If
>you have a NAS or PC you don't mind leaving switched on, then the
>software side is trivial, and boxed network tuners are basically fit
>and forget.
Hmm. the Silicon Dust job is £154 at Amazon. The PC is left on so that
>> In message <tue5aq$1n10o$1...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>
>>> A good project for DIY
>>>
>>> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>>>
>>> With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and
>>>running plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as
>>>collating and organising everything while also sucking in rich media
>>>data including a real time program guide. It makes for a very
>>>Topfield (when augmented with better firmware / or TAP) experience
>>>but with added bells and whistles.
>> Ha ha! You know my limitations. I'll see how I get on with the
>>refurbed Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
>
>The complexity does vary significantly depending on where you start. If
>you have a NAS or PC you don't mind leaving switched on, then the
>software side is trivial, and boxed network tuners are basically fit
>and forget.
bit is easy.
>
>(You can make it harder - by going for fully custom setups and rolling
>your own on a raspberry pi, building you own NAS etc - but that is
>optional)
Whoa!
>(You can make it harder - by going for fully custom setups and rolling
>your own on a raspberry pi, building you own NAS etc - but that is
>optional)
>
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NY
Mar 10, 2023, 11:31:15 AM3/10/23
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"Tim Lamb" <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c4F8+2+d...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk...
(terrestrial) and a DVB-S2 (satellite). I record to a USB hard disk rather
than the Pi's built-in SD card because 1) the card is small, and 2) SD cards
don't take kindly to being written to many times over (hence the advice not
to defragment them).
It works very well, especially after a recent fix to reset the Pi's
memory/cache usage periodically; previously I was getting periods of
"continuity errors" in TVH which manifested themselves as glitches in the
recording.
I don't use the Pi to store and play the programmes: I access the Pi's disk
by a Samba (SMB) share from a Windows PC which stores everything. I tend to
watch a lot of TV on the PC, but if we want anything on the big TV I use
Plex Server on the Windows PC and PLex Client built into a Roku connected to
the TV.
Very complicated, very geeky, but also very flexible: I can edit out
commercials and continuity, and when playing on a PC I can use VLC which
allows me to pause, single-step, take a screenshot and play at faster than
normal speed.
Michael Chare
Mar 10, 2023, 11:59:09 AM3/10/23
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Channel4 app without adverts and without paying. I will try and watch the
--
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Michael Chare
Mar 10, 2023, 12:01:05 PM3/10/23
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any adverts.
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Michael Chare
Mar 10, 2023, 12:08:58 PM3/10/23
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Fredxx
Mar 10, 2023, 12:24:51 PM3/10/23
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Brian
Mar 10, 2023, 12:41:40 PM3/10/23
to
Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>
> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>
> Any thoughts?
Try putting a USB memory stick in the USB port of the TV and recording a
> Might be OT.
>
> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
> replacement box!
>
> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>
> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>
> Any thoughts?
programme.
Then, pop the stick into a computer. Hunt for the file. Copy to your hard
disk.
Try changing the extension to mp4 and try viewing in with VLC, you may be
lucky. We have a couple of TVs which use .tsv extension but just changing
to mp4 works.
It isn’t a perfect method, you can’t view them in all applications.
I sometime change the extension to mpg then use Handbrake to convert the
file to mp4. This seems to give a better conversion.
The above doesn’t always work but it is worth a try.
Fredxx
Mar 10, 2023, 12:47:10 PM3/10/23
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it playable in more applications.
VLC is pretty good at playing anything that is playable. In contrast a
Microsoft players expects you to pay for a decoder that is free in VLC.
alan_m
Mar 10, 2023, 12:51:27 PM3/10/23
to
On 10/03/2023 15:07, SteveW wrote:
> There is a plug-in which I have not tried yet, that removes the ads from
> a recording.
I wonder how that works? These days on some channels there is no end of
> a recording.
part one type indication, the adverts just suddenly appear and often in
places where it's not even the end of a scene.
I find that the jump forward/ jump back buttons on my Enigma2/Openvix
box work well for jumping through adverts on timeshifted or recorded
broadcast material.
alan_m
Mar 10, 2023, 12:58:07 PM3/10/23
to
On 10/03/2023 15:09, SteveW wrote:
> On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>>
>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on
>> a boosted conventional aerial.
>>
>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>> storey garage!
It may not actually have to be that high to get a clear view of the
> On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>> <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>>
>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace on
>> a boosted conventional aerial.
>>
>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>> storey garage!
satellite. There are web sites that allow you to easily determine where
you can position a dish to clear any nearby objects.
>
> OpenVix can use digital terrestrial tuners as well, it does not have to
> be satellite.
>
tuners and the box can record from all tuners simultaneously. In fact
the box can record many other programs at the same time as long as they
share the same MUXs or transponders that are tuned in.
alan_m
Mar 10, 2023, 1:04:18 PM3/10/23
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On 10/03/2023 12:10, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Cannot the tuner just be replaced?. You don't usually mess inside uhf
> tuners, as the exact placement of components is very important to stability.
I'm not sure it's ever been available as a spare. The tuner module is
> Cannot the tuner just be replaced?. You don't usually mess inside uhf
> tuners, as the exact placement of components is very important to stability.
soldered to the main board and most (user) tuner repairs have been from
a donor machine.
Andrew
Mar 10, 2023, 1:44:00 PM3/10/23
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On 10/03/2023 02:40, John Rumm wrote:
thumb drive, even if it has the capability because of a check bit
that the TV detects and has a hissy fit over.
> However this kind of recording is limited. It is ok for pausing live TV,
> but for recording it can probably only record the program you are
> watching due to lack of tuners.
>
I use a USB2 bus-powered 2.5 inch 350Mbyte external drive on my
single-tuner HD-FOX-T2 and most of the time it doesn't restrict
my viewing. While it is recording one HD program you can still
watch any of the other HD channels because they are on the same mux.
> On 09/03/2023 14:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>>
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input
>> and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest
>> in a replacement box!
>>
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
>> Might be OT.
>>
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input
>> and I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest
>> in a replacement box!
>>
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but
>> requires external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>
> Well basically, plug in a USB hard drive, SSD drive, or thumb drive...
>
Paul gave a description of why it may not be possible to use a
>
thumb drive, even if it has the capability because of a check bit
that the TV detects and has a hissy fit over.
> However this kind of recording is limited. It is ok for pausing live TV,
> but for recording it can probably only record the program you are
> watching due to lack of tuners.
>
single-tuner HD-FOX-T2 and most of the time it doesn't restrict
my viewing. While it is recording one HD program you can still
watch any of the other HD channels because they are on the same mux.
Andrew
Mar 10, 2023, 1:45:49 PM3/10/23
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On 10/03/2023 10:11, Tim Lamb wrote:
of wobbly start.
https://myhumax.org/forum/
The Natural Philosopher
Mar 10, 2023, 2:37:20 PM3/10/23
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On 10/03/2023 16:31, NY wrote:
server will record, and I can play back via NFS mounts or indeed via a
globally accessible webs server.
--
"If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the
news paper, you are mis-informed."
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The Natural Philosopher
Mar 10, 2023, 2:38:50 PM3/10/23
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On 10/03/2023 16:59, Michael Chare wrote:
> Yes, interestingly I was able to watch a little Formula 1 on the
> Channel4 app without adverts and without paying. I will try and watch the
>
https://live1.formula1stream.cc/
> Channel4 app without adverts and without paying. I will try and watch the
>
take your pick.
I plug the laptop into a telly via HDMI...
--
"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight
and understanding".
Marshall McLuhan
SteveW
Mar 10, 2023, 3:16:48 PM3/10/23
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On 10/03/2023 17:51, alan_m wrote:
> On 10/03/2023 15:07, SteveW wrote:
>
>> There is a plug-in which I have not tried yet, that removes the ads
>> from a recording.
>
> I wonder how that works? These days on some channels there is no end of
> part one type indication, the adverts just suddenly appear and often in
> places where it's not even the end of a scene.
I don't know, but I do have an possible idea. I remember seeing a
> On 10/03/2023 15:07, SteveW wrote:
>
>> There is a plug-in which I have not tried yet, that removes the ads
>> from a recording.
>
> I wonder how that works? These days on some channels there is no end of
> part one type indication, the adverts just suddenly appear and often in
> places where it's not even the end of a scene.
circuit for cutting out the ads during recording, for back in the days
of VCRs. The channels have DOGs (Digital On-screen Graphics) in one
corner. When you set the VCR to record, you set the circuit to the
appropriate corner (usually top left) and it looked for a static part of
the picture. When that disappeared, it paused the VCR and un-paused when
it re-appeared - as all the channels remove the DOGs during the adverts.
Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 3:25:39 PM3/10/23
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In message <k719d9...@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
choice is not always beneficial:-)
--
Tim Lamb
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
>On 10/03/2023 15:09, SteveW wrote:
>> On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>>><mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>>>
>>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace
>>>on a boosted conventional aerial.
>>>
>>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>>>storey garage!
>
>It may not actually have to be that high to get a clear view of the
>satellite. There are web sites that allow you to easily determine where
>you can position a dish to clear any nearby objects.
We have a convenient gable end and this isn't a protected area.
>> On 09/03/2023 18:15, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <tud33u$1hei0$1...@dont-email.me>, Michael Chare
>>><mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> writes
>>>> On 09/03/2023 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For a PVR I would suggest any box that can run Vix.
>>>> See www.world-of-satellite.com
>>>> and www.world-of-satellite.co.uk
>>>
>>> I knew this would get technical. Current service is Crystal Palace
>>>on a boosted conventional aerial.
>>>
>>> A dish would work here if high enough to see over the neighbours 2
>>>storey garage!
>
>It may not actually have to be that high to get a clear view of the
>satellite. There are web sites that allow you to easily determine where
>you can position a dish to clear any nearby objects.
>
>> OpenVix can use digital terrestrial tuners as well, it does not have
>>to be satellite.
>>
>
>Yes, I have a box running openvix with 2 satellite and 2 terrestrial
>tuners and the box can record from all tuners simultaneously. In fact
>the box can record many other programs at the same time as long as they
>share the same MUXs or transponders that are tuned in.
I'll see how I get on with the re-furbed Humax first. I suspect more TV
>> OpenVix can use digital terrestrial tuners as well, it does not have
>>to be satellite.
>>
>
>Yes, I have a box running openvix with 2 satellite and 2 terrestrial
>tuners and the box can record from all tuners simultaneously. In fact
>the box can record many other programs at the same time as long as they
>share the same MUXs or transponders that are tuned in.
choice is not always beneficial:-)
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Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 3:25:40 PM3/10/23
to
In message <tuftsp$22eib$5...@dont-email.me>, Andrew
<Andr...@btinternet.com> writes
Not very reassuring:-(
We sold the farmhouse to a Microsoft expert so I might sound him out on
a free standing tuner set up.
>
--
Tim Lamb
<Andr...@btinternet.com> writes
We sold the farmhouse to a Microsoft expert so I might sound him out on
a free standing tuner set up.
>
--
Tim Lamb
Tim Lamb
Mar 10, 2023, 3:25:40 PM3/10/23
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In message <tufq4g$22a61$1...@dont-email.me>, Brian <no...@lid.org> writes
Brian. My TV viewing is meant to be relaxing. The above reads like
serious work:-)
>
--
Tim Lamb
serious work:-)
>
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John Rumm
Mar 10, 2023, 4:39:26 PM3/10/23
to
On 10/03/2023 16:12, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tufaiq$1vn7u$2...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
> <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
>> On 10/03/2023 10:11, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <tue5aq$1n10o$1...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>>
>>>> A good project for DIY
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>>>>
>>>> With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and
>>>> running plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as
>>>> collating and organising everything while also sucking in rich media
>>>> data including a real time program guide. It makes for a very
>>>> Topfield (when augmented with better firmware / or TAP) experience
>>>> but with added bells and whistles.
>>> Ha ha! You know my limitations. I'll see how I get on with the
>>> refurbed Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
>>
>> The complexity does vary significantly depending on where you start.
>> If you have a NAS or PC you don't mind leaving switched on, then the
>> software side is trivial, and boxed network tuners are basically fit
>> and forget.
>
> Hmm. the Silicon Dust job is £154 at Amazon. The PC is left on so that
> bit is easy.
That is probably the 4 tuner version - there is a 2 tuner one that I
> In message <tufaiq$1vn7u$2...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
> <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> writes
>> On 10/03/2023 10:11, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <tue5aq$1n10o$1...@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>>
>>>> A good project for DIY
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/DIY_Personal_Video_Recorder_(PVR)
>>>>
>>>> With a network tuner, network storage box acting as storage and
>>>> running plex, and plex doing all the nice front end as well as
>>>> collating and organising everything while also sucking in rich media
>>>> data including a real time program guide. It makes for a very
>>>> Topfield (when augmented with better firmware / or TAP) experience
>>>> but with added bells and whistles.
>>> Ha ha! You know my limitations. I'll see how I get on with the
>>> refurbed Humax and possibly save up for the Aura!
>>
>> The complexity does vary significantly depending on where you start.
>> If you have a NAS or PC you don't mind leaving switched on, then the
>> software side is trivial, and boxed network tuners are basically fit
>> and forget.
>
> Hmm. the Silicon Dust job is £154 at Amazon. The PC is left on so that
> bit is easy.
find adequate.
John Rumm
Mar 11, 2023, 3:42:16 PM3/11/23
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On 10/03/2023 17:41, Brian wrote:
> Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Might be OT.
>>
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
>> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
>> replacement box!
>>
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
>> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>
>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>>
>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> Try putting a USB memory stick in the USB port of the TV and recording a
> programme.
>
> Then, pop the stick into a computer. Hunt for the file. Copy to your hard
> disk.
>
> Try changing the extension to mp4 and try viewing in with VLC, you may be
> lucky. We have a couple of TVs which use .tsv extension but just changing
> to mp4 works.
That used to work with .rec files moved from toppy. On many TVs though
>> Might be OT.
>>
>> Growing bored of Netflix offerings and previously recorded stuff on my
>> broken Topfield (close coupled transistor failed on the tuner input and
>> I don't have skill/patience to replace) I have decided to invest in a
>> replacement box!
>>
>> My TV is an LG 32LM6300PLA which has a built in capability but requires
>> external USB storage about which I know nothing:-(
>>
>> Alternatively purchase a replacement Topfield/Humax or?
>>
>> Viewing i phone videos etc. is not a requirement.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> Try putting a USB memory stick in the USB port of the TV and recording a
> programme.
>
> Then, pop the stick into a computer. Hunt for the file. Copy to your hard
> disk.
>
> Try changing the extension to mp4 and try viewing in with VLC, you may be
> lucky. We have a couple of TVs which use .tsv extension but just changing
> to mp4 works.
they files are encypted so that they only playback on the device that
made the recording.
alan_m
Mar 11, 2023, 4:43:02 PM3/11/23
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On 11/03/2023 20:42, John Rumm wrote:
>
> That used to work with .rec files moved from toppy. On many TVs though
> they files are encypted so that they only playback on the device that
> made the recording.
The .rec file was just the transport stream with a very small added header.
>
> That used to work with .rec files moved from toppy. On many TVs though
> they files are encypted so that they only playback on the device that
> made the recording.
VLC could play a .rec file but there was also a small software utility
to remove the .rec header.
John Rumm
Mar 11, 2023, 11:37:23 PM3/11/23
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On 11/03/2023 21:42, alan_m wrote:
> On 11/03/2023 20:42, John Rumm wrote:
>
>>
>> That used to work with .rec files moved from toppy. On many TVs though
>> they files are encypted so that they only playback on the device that
>> made the recording.
>
> The .rec file was just the transport stream with a very small added header.
>
> VLC could play a .rec file but there was also a small software utility
> to remove the .rec header.
I did not bother since VLC would play them as is. I had mine setup with
> On 11/03/2023 20:42, John Rumm wrote:
>
>>
>> That used to work with .rec files moved from toppy. On many TVs though
>> they files are encypted so that they only playback on the device that
>> made the recording.
>
> The .rec file was just the transport stream with a very small added header.
>
> VLC could play a .rec file but there was also a small software utility
> to remove the .rec header.
a linksys NSLU2 USB network storage box (basically a thing designed to
mount a HDD on a network), with custom firmware to connect to toppy and
look like the PC app they supplied to copy files from it. It acted as a
network gateway to toppy. That let me FTP files over ethernet directly
from it. FTP extraction was slow - but still about 2x real time - so you
could start a transfer - wait ten secs and then start watching. The
playback would then not catchup with the FTP transfer.
Dave Plowman (News)
Mar 13, 2023, 12:29:00 PM3/13/23
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In article <tucvhg$1gnh5$1...@dont-email.me>,
through them like you can with a PVR.
--
*Lawyers believe a man is innocent until proven broke.
Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Michael Chare <mUNDERS...@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote:
> If you have a TV which can run apps such as ITVX, iPlayer, Channel4 etc
> you can view old programmes. This certainly reduces the need for a PVR.
> If I use the Channel 4 app I can watch the first 2023 Formula 1 race
> without the adverts. Even my PVR recording still has he adverts.
I used the CH4 app the other day, and it had ads. And you can't skip
> If you have a TV which can run apps such as ITVX, iPlayer, Channel4 etc
> you can view old programmes. This certainly reduces the need for a PVR.
> If I use the Channel 4 app I can watch the first 2023 Formula 1 race
> without the adverts. Even my PVR recording still has he adverts.
through them like you can with a PVR.
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To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Chris J Dixon
Mar 13, 2023, 12:38:45 PM3/13/23
to
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>I used the CH4 app the other day, and it had ads. And you can't skip
>through them like you can with a PVR.
OTOH, some of the programmes I watch on UKTV, like "The
>I used the CH4 app the other day, and it had ads. And you can't skip
>through them like you can with a PVR.
Architecture the Railways Built" can, on a good day, sail right
through without any ads at all.
Chris
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Plant amazing Acers.
Tim Lamb
Mar 19, 2023, 4:17:39 PM3/19/23
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In message <h8ku0it1iphpaaqvo...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
for advice on getting it to *talk* to the TV?
HDMI connection to my LG TV.
On screen complaint about lack of signal but the TV works happily on the
feed through connection.
On line help mentions *master pin number* but nothing in any of the
supplied documentation.
Thoughts?
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Tim Lamb
<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
>>I used the CH4 app the other day, and it had ads. And you can't skip
>>through them like you can with a PVR.
>
>OTOH, some of the programmes I watch on UKTV, like "The
>Architecture the Railways Built" can, on a good day, sail right
>through without any ads at all.
As the new owner of a Manhatten T2-R box can I ask the resident users
>
>>I used the CH4 app the other day, and it had ads. And you can't skip
>>through them like you can with a PVR.
>
>OTOH, some of the programmes I watch on UKTV, like "The
>Architecture the Railways Built" can, on a good day, sail right
>through without any ads at all.
for advice on getting it to *talk* to the TV?
HDMI connection to my LG TV.
On screen complaint about lack of signal but the TV works happily on the
feed through connection.
On line help mentions *master pin number* but nothing in any of the
supplied documentation.
Thoughts?
--
Tim Lamb
alan_m
Mar 19, 2023, 5:38:48 PM3/19/23
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On 19/03/2023 20:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Manhatten T2-R
Manhatten trying to tune into the wrong transmitter?
Entering a post code possibly doesn't correspond to which transmitter
your aerial is actually pointing.
For instance in my location most (all) the Freeview sites suggest my
local transmitter is Crystal Palace but close by where I live there are
tall building in the way. I instead use the Bluebell Hill transmitter
for Freeview. Along the road where I live TV aerials point in 3
different directions depending on which transmitter has been selected by
the householder or aerial erector. A box that selects a transmitter
based on a postcode is likely, in my area, to be wrong 2 times out of
three and for 66% of the time be selecting a transmitter to which the
arial is not pointing and resulting in a very weak, or no, signal.
> Manhatten T2-R
Manhatten trying to tune into the wrong transmitter?
Entering a post code possibly doesn't correspond to which transmitter
your aerial is actually pointing.
For instance in my location most (all) the Freeview sites suggest my
local transmitter is Crystal Palace but close by where I live there are
tall building in the way. I instead use the Bluebell Hill transmitter
for Freeview. Along the road where I live TV aerials point in 3
different directions depending on which transmitter has been selected by
the householder or aerial erector. A box that selects a transmitter
based on a postcode is likely, in my area, to be wrong 2 times out of
three and for 66% of the time be selecting a transmitter to which the
arial is not pointing and resulting in a very weak, or no, signal.
alan_m
Mar 19, 2023, 5:45:34 PM3/19/23
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On 19/03/2023 20:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
> On line help mentions *master pin number* but nothing in any of the
> supplied documentation.
Parental control pin number. Block little eyes from viewing certain tV
> supplied documentation.
channels etc. 0000 until you change it.
Quote
How do I reset my Manhattan PIN?
Your PIN can be reset using the master PIN. In order to protect minors,
we don't publish the master PIN, so please contact us and we will give
it to you. Once you have the master PIN, go to the PIN section of the
Settings menu and choose the 'Change PIN' option.
/quote
Tim Lamb
Mar 19, 2023, 7:29:53 PM3/19/23
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In message <k7pe3p...@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
Ok. I think the transmitter setting is relevant as we are nominally
Anglia but in a river valley with Crystal Palace giving the best signal.
I have yet to get a settings menu displayed:-(
Putting my post code into their channel search gives CP and includes HD
channels.
>
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Tim Lamb
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
Anglia but in a river valley with Crystal Palace giving the best signal.
I have yet to get a settings menu displayed:-(
Putting my post code into their channel search gives CP and includes HD
channels.
>
--
Tim Lamb
Paul
Mar 19, 2023, 9:02:11 PM3/19/23
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https://manhattan-tv.com/assets/img/products/gallery/manhattan-t2r-recorder/T2R-Remote-100.jpg
Paul
alan_m
Mar 20, 2023, 2:38:55 AM3/20/23
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frequencies used by an individual transmitter a problem can arise where
the aerial can pick up signals from more than one transmitter - the one
you want and the and a much weaker signal from a more distant or
different transmitter.
Say, BBC1 was on transmitter channel 21 from the transmitter with the
very weak signal and on transmitter channel 31 from the desired
transmitter with a nice strong signal. The box starts scanning from
transmitter channel 21 and immediately finds a signal, albeit weak, and
populates the BBC 1 slot in your TV channel list - the box keeps
scanning and when it gets to transmitter channel 31 finds another BBC1
but because its already populated that slot perhaps puts the duplicate
much further down the list of TV channels. You now have two instances
of BBC 1 in your channel list.
Is this the case you are seeing? Scroll through the complete list of
channels to see if there are duplicates much further towards the end of
the list of TV channels that don't give you the weak signal message.
I don't know the Manhatten box and how it scans for channels but in the
past with various boxes I've owned since digital TV started I've had to
resort to manually tuning for each Freeview MUX and/or putting an
in-line attenuator in the aerial line during scanning to make the weak
signal from the "wrong" transmitter even weaker so it's not detected by
the box. The attenuator is then removed after scanning.
Davey
Mar 20, 2023, 4:53:17 AM3/20/23
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--
Davey.
alan_m
Mar 20, 2023, 5:56:14 AM3/20/23
to
On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>
> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>
> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
Davey
Mar 20, 2023, 6:54:54 AM3/20/23
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 09:56:09 +0000
alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>
> >
> > Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>
>
> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>
>
I'm sure, but thankfully not here!
alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>
> >
> > Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>
>
> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>
>
--
Davey.
Harry Bloomfield Esq
Mar 20, 2023, 7:48:54 AM3/20/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Looks possible. My LG manual doesn't cover this activity.
I have three LG's here. A USB memory stick allows recording/playback
off-air, though not pause/play. For pause/play, an actual USB hard disk
plugged in and set to run all the time is needed.
> Looks possible. My LG manual doesn't cover this activity.
I have three LG's here. A USB memory stick allows recording/playback
off-air, though not pause/play. For pause/play, an actual USB hard disk
plugged in and set to run all the time is needed.
Harry Bloomfield Esq
Mar 20, 2023, 7:57:47 AM3/20/23
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On 09/03/2023 18:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Ah. My button set has Rec, Fast Forward, Play, Pause and fast rewind
> together with a square symbol button, purpose unknown.
> I have yet to find a use for any of the 4 coloured buttons!
Square stops the recording, after confirming.
Green works with BBC channels, to restart the current program from the
beginning, via Iplayer. The red button works on TalkingPicutures, to
call up their streaming service, As well as calling up other BBC
services, when on a BBC channel.
Tim Lamb
Mar 20, 2023, 10:02:07 AM3/20/23
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In message <tv8ba9$380o0$1...@dont-email.me>, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid>
writes
That's the kiddie!
My TV does have HDMI input.
Now if only I could get the box to talk to the TV:-(
Next move is to try their help line!
I don't see signal strength as the issue because the TV is happy to run
on the box feed through.
--
Tim Lamb
writes
My TV does have HDMI input.
Now if only I could get the box to talk to the TV:-(
Next move is to try their help line!
I don't see signal strength as the issue because the TV is happy to run
on the box feed through.
--
Tim Lamb
The Natural Philosopher
Mar 20, 2023, 3:35:33 PM3/20/23
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On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>
>>
>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>
>
> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>
>
Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>
>>
>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>
>
> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>
>
from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
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kind word alone.
Al Capone
The Natural Philosopher
Mar 20, 2023, 3:37:27 PM3/20/23
to
In general once you have a DVR or S|TB in front of the telly, you use
that for everything and throw the TV remote away
Tim Streater
Mar 20, 2023, 4:44:10 PM3/20/23
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On 20 Mar 2023 at 19:35:29 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
--
Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison."
Churchill: "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>
>>
>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>
>>
> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
I picked up BBC R4 while near Belgrade, once, in the 1970s. Does that count?
> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>
>>
>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>
>>
> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
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Churchill: "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."
Jeff Layman
Mar 20, 2023, 6:17:08 PM3/20/23
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another on the TV. The PVR remote will usually have simple up/down and
volume control buttons for the TV, but it is pretty inconvenient to
change TV channels with it. And if you want to do anything else, such as
view the TV EPG, forget it. And if you want to access the TV's menu to
update the channels or software, or even connect it to a new
router/modem, you won't be able to do it without its remote.
--
Jeff
Tim Lamb
Mar 21, 2023, 4:34:53 AM3/21/23
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In message <tvaclj$3li5o$4...@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> writes
The fundamental problem I have is that the *box* will not *talk* to the
TV. Any TV.
Help line advice was to try other digital TVs. Also does not work with
our Panasonic and a fairly ancient digital Samsung.
I am reaching the point of returning the box to Argos for a refund.
>
--
Tim Lamb
<t...@invalid.invalid> writes
TV. Any TV.
Help line advice was to try other digital TVs. Also does not work with
our Panasonic and a fairly ancient digital Samsung.
I am reaching the point of returning the box to Argos for a refund.
>
--
Tim Lamb
alan_m
Mar 21, 2023, 5:11:07 AM3/21/23
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On 21/03/2023 08:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
> The fundamental problem I have is that the *box* will not *talk* to the
> TV. Any TV.
Do you mean that the TV is not displaying menus of any kind or it's
> The fundamental problem I have is that the *box* will not *talk* to the
> TV. Any TV.
displaying menus but not a broadcast TV picture.
If the former have you tried a different HDMI cable?
Try also - from the quick start guide.
Your TV may not correctly
communicate the resolutions it is
capable of and an incompatible
resolution may be selected.
• Turn the T2•R on and wait 30 seconds
• Press MENU
• Press & hold ‘0’ for 5 seconds
• The T2•R will try each resolution for 15
seconds: 1080p then 1080i then 720p
• Select ‘Confirm’ when you see a picture
Tim Lamb
Mar 21, 2023, 7:06:57 AM3/21/23
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In message <k7tal7...@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
Topfield box as I know that works.
Whoopee!
I have a Welcome .. get started screen:-)
Can't blame Argos as it is a pre-packaged item.
Many thanks to all who contributed.
<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
>On 21/03/2023 08:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
>
>
>> The fundamental problem I have is that the *box* will not *talk* to
>>the TV. Any TV.
>
>Do you mean that the TV is not displaying menus of any kind or it's
>displaying menus but not a broadcast TV picture.
>
>If the former have you tried a different HDMI cable?
Not yet. This one was supplied with the box. I can try the one from my
>
>
>> The fundamental problem I have is that the *box* will not *talk* to
>>the TV. Any TV.
>
>Do you mean that the TV is not displaying menus of any kind or it's
>displaying menus but not a broadcast TV picture.
>
>If the former have you tried a different HDMI cable?
Topfield box as I know that works.
Whoopee!
I have a Welcome .. get started screen:-)
Can't blame Argos as it is a pre-packaged item.
Many thanks to all who contributed.
>
>Try also - from the quick start guide.
>
>Your TV may not correctly
>communicate the resolutions it is
>capable of and an incompatible
>resolution may be selected.
>
>• Turn the T2•R on and wait 30 seconds
>• Press MENU
>• Press & hold ‘0’ for 5 seconds
>• The T2•R will try each resolution for 15
>seconds: 1080p then 1080i then 720p
>• Select ‘Confirm’ when you see a picture
>
>
--
Tim Lamb
>Try also - from the quick start guide.
>
>Your TV may not correctly
>communicate the resolutions it is
>capable of and an incompatible
>resolution may be selected.
>
>• Turn the T2•R on and wait 30 seconds
>• Press MENU
>• Press & hold ‘0’ for 5 seconds
>• The T2•R will try each resolution for 15
>seconds: 1080p then 1080i then 720p
>• Select ‘Confirm’ when you see a picture
>
>
--
Davey
Mar 21, 2023, 7:45:22 AM3/21/23
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:06:41 +0000
Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >If the former have you tried a different HDMI cable?
>
> Not yet. This one was supplied with the box. I can try the one from
> my Topfield box as I know that works.
>
> Whoopee!
>
> I have a Welcome .. get started screen:-)
>
> Can't blame Argos as it is a pre-packaged item.
But if they supplied it, it is up to them to replace it.
Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >If the former have you tried a different HDMI cable?
>
> Not yet. This one was supplied with the box. I can try the one from
> my Topfield box as I know that works.
>
> Whoopee!
>
> I have a Welcome .. get started screen:-)
>
> Can't blame Argos as it is a pre-packaged item.
--
Davey.
Max Demian
Mar 21, 2023, 7:53:19 AM3/21/23
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everything, including accessing the menus.
--
Max Demian
Jeff Layman
Mar 21, 2023, 10:15:56 AM3/21/23
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to see how easy or otherwise it would be to use, it's hopeless. And if
you pause a little bit too long in selecting something, it just
disappears from the screen and you have to start again.
--
Jeff
Dave Plowman (News)
Mar 21, 2023, 10:27:27 AM3/21/23
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In article <h8ku0it1iphpaaqvo...@4ax.com>,
Chris J Dixon <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
free, obviously. But sometimes their own trailers.
--
*A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good *
Chris J Dixon <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
> Dave Plowman (Newq) wrote:
> >I used the CH4 app the other day, and it had ads. And you can't skip
> >through them like you can with a PVR.
> OTOH, some of the programmes I watch on UKTV, like "The
> Architecture the Railways Built" can, on a good day, sail right
> through without any ads at all.
Yes - it depends if anyone has bought the slot. They won't show ads for
> >I used the CH4 app the other day, and it had ads. And you can't skip
> >through them like you can with a PVR.
> OTOH, some of the programmes I watch on UKTV, like "The
> Architecture the Railways Built" can, on a good day, sail right
> through without any ads at all.
free, obviously. But sometimes their own trailers.
--
*A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good *
Andrew
Mar 25, 2023, 3:40:28 PM3/25/23
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On 20/03/2023 20:44, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2023 at 19:35:29 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>>
>>>
>> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
>> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
>
> I picked up BBC R4 while near Belgrade, once, in the 1970s. Does that count?
>
Was this the FM transmission from Germany, or would that be
> On 20 Mar 2023 at 19:35:29 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>>
>>>
>> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
>> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
>
> I picked up BBC R4 while near Belgrade, once, in the 1970s. Does that count?
>
too far away ?
Bob Eager
Mar 25, 2023, 6:17:23 PM3/25/23
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198kHz) transmission.
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Tim Streater
Mar 26, 2023, 5:02:26 AM3/26/23
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On 25 Mar 2023 at 23:17:18 GMT, "Bob Eager" <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 19:40:23 +0000, Andrew wrote:
>
>> On 20/03/2023 20:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> On 20 Mar 2023 at 19:35:29 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
>>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>>>>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>>>>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>>>>
>>>> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
>>>> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
>>>
>>> I picked up BBC R4 while near Belgrade, once, in the 1970s. Does that
>>> count?
>>>
>> Was this the FM transmission from Germany, or would that be too far away?
>
> If it was after April 1978, it could have been the 'long wave' (1500m,
> 198kHz) transmission.
It was Summer 1970, as I now recall. It faded in and out, but was perfectly
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 19:40:23 +0000, Andrew wrote:
>
>> On 20/03/2023 20:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> On 20 Mar 2023 at 19:35:29 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
>>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>>>>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>>>>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>>>>
>>>> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
>>>> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
>>>
>>> I picked up BBC R4 while near Belgrade, once, in the 1970s. Does that
>>> count?
>>>
>> Was this the FM transmission from Germany, or would that be too far away?
>
> If it was after April 1978, it could have been the 'long wave' (1500m,
> 198kHz) transmission.
audible for several minutes before fading out. Definitely FM. That was what
surprised me.
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Ian Jackson
Mar 26, 2023, 6:32:39 AM3/26/23
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In message <k8afte...@mid.individual.net>, Tim Streater
<timst...@greenbee.net> writes
summer), it's not unusual for signals between 25 and 150MHz to travel
occasionally up to around 1000 (and sometimes even more). In the UK -
and it's not unusual to hear FM radio stations (around 100MHz) from
Spain and southern Europe. Reception of UK stations in Belgrade is
certainly possible. Reception is often quite short-lived, and signals
levels are usually very unstable, and fluctuate wildly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporadic_E_propagation
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<timst...@greenbee.net> writes
>On 25 Mar 2023 at 23:17:18 GMT, "Bob Eager" <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 19:40:23 +0000, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/03/2023 20:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> On 20 Mar 2023 at 19:35:29 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
>>>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>>>>>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
>>>>> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
>>>>
>>>> I picked up BBC R4 while near Belgrade, once, in the 1970s. Does that
>>>> count?
>>>>
>>> Was this the FM transmission from Germany, or would that be too far away?
>>
>> If it was after April 1978, it could have been the 'long wave' (1500m,
>> 198kHz) transmission.
>
>It was Summer 1970, as I now recall. It faded in and out, but was perfectly
>audible for several minutes before fading out. Definitely FM. That was what
>surprised me.
>
During the 'Sporadic-E' propagation season (typically spring to early
>
>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 19:40:23 +0000, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/03/2023 20:44, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> On 20 Mar 2023 at 19:35:29 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"
>>>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/03/2023 09:56, alan_m wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/03/2023 08:53, Davey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Makes me glad I live out in the country!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure that in many places "out in the country" similar potential
>>>>>> reception or tuning/scan problems can occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. My main station is sudbury, but I have on occasion got signals
>>>>> from Sandy Heath and Tacolneston. And in cold weather. Holland
>>>>
>>>> I picked up BBC R4 while near Belgrade, once, in the 1970s. Does that
>>>> count?
>>>>
>>> Was this the FM transmission from Germany, or would that be too far away?
>>
>> If it was after April 1978, it could have been the 'long wave' (1500m,
>> 198kHz) transmission.
>
>It was Summer 1970, as I now recall. It faded in and out, but was perfectly
>audible for several minutes before fading out. Definitely FM. That was what
>surprised me.
>
summer), it's not unusual for signals between 25 and 150MHz to travel
occasionally up to around 1000 (and sometimes even more). In the UK -
and it's not unusual to hear FM radio stations (around 100MHz) from
Spain and southern Europe. Reception of UK stations in Belgrade is
certainly possible. Reception is often quite short-lived, and signals
levels are usually very unstable, and fluctuate wildly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporadic_E_propagation
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Ian
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Tim Lamb
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In message <ndsDqIG8...@brattleho.plus.com>, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> writes
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hang of using it.
Pleased to discover it does have fast forward for the adverts:-)
Transmissions wise it picked up 190 channels, inc. radio. but then
offered a choice of transmitters.
Experience so far is that it is an excellent replacement for my
Topfield.
--
Tim Lamb
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> writes
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>During the 'Sporadic-E' propagation season (typically spring to early
>summer), it's not unusual for signals between 25 and 150MHz to travel
>occasionally up to around 1000 (and sometimes even more). In the UK -
>and it's not unusual to hear FM radio stations (around 100MHz) from
>Spain and southern Europe. Reception of UK stations in Belgrade is
>certainly possible. Reception is often quite short-lived, and signals
>levels are usually very unstable, and fluctuate wildly.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporadic_E_propagation
Back on the Manhattan T2-R recorder box.. I am gradually getting the
>summer), it's not unusual for signals between 25 and 150MHz to travel
>occasionally up to around 1000 (and sometimes even more). In the UK -
>and it's not unusual to hear FM radio stations (around 100MHz) from
>Spain and southern Europe. Reception of UK stations in Belgrade is
>certainly possible. Reception is often quite short-lived, and signals
>levels are usually very unstable, and fluctuate wildly.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporadic_E_propagation
hang of using it.
Pleased to discover it does have fast forward for the adverts:-)
Transmissions wise it picked up 190 channels, inc. radio. but then
offered a choice of transmitters.
Experience so far is that it is an excellent replacement for my
Topfield.
--
Tim Lamb
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