Screw for wall plugs
asalcedo
I have found that the head of the Screwfix Turbo Gold screws sometimes
breaks off when screwing into a plug in the wall.
It seems they work better in wood.
What is the best screw for using with wall plugs?
Are the Fisher Power-Fast or the Spax better for that purpose?
Thanks,
Antonio
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asalcedo
Tim Watts
>
> I have found that the head of the Screwfix Turbo Gold screws sometimes
> breaks off when screwing into a plug in the wall.
>
> It seems they work better in wood.
>
> What is the best screw for using with wall plugs?
>
Plan old fashioned slightly tapered wood screws, IME.
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Tim Watts
The Medway Handyman
> I have found that the head of the Screwfix Turbo Gold screws sometimes
> breaks off when screwing into a plug in the wall.
>
> It seems they work better in wood.
They work exceptionally well in wood, but I've found they cut up plugs
quite badly.
>
> What is the best screw for using with wall plugs?
Quicksilver.
>
> Are the Fisher Power-Fast or the Spax better for that purpose?
Dunno, but they are mucho expensive.
All I carry on the van is Turbogold for wood & Quicksilver for plugs.
And they are Rawlplug 'Uno' which are the mutts nutts.
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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
John Rumm
> breaks off when screwing into a plug in the wall.
>
> It seems they work better in wood.
Which is what they are designed for really...
> What is the best screw for using with wall plugs?
Quicksilver twinthreads seem to work well (and are much cheaper than TG
as well)
> Are the Fisher Power-Fast or the Spax better for that purpose?
Not tried the Fisher, but the Spax are similar to TG in design, so may
suffer the same problem.
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Cheers,
John.
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asalcedo
The Medway Handyman;2674898 Wrote:
> On 09/07/2011 13:40, asalcedo wrote:-
> I have found that the head of the Screwfix Turbo Gold screws sometimes
> breaks off when screwing into a plug in the wall.
>
>
> They work exceptionally well in wood, but I've found they cut up plugs
>
> What is the best screw for using with wall plugs?-
>
> Quicksilver.
> -
>
> Are the Fisher Power-Fast or the Spax better for that purpose?-
>
> Dunno, but they are mucho expensive.
>
> All I carry on the van is Turbogold for wood & Quicksilver for plugs.
> And they are Rawlplug 'Uno' which are the mutts nutts.
>
>
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> jobs that need to be done' (http://www.medwayhandyman.co.uk)
The problem with Quicksilver screws is that the head wears out very
easily.
That is a mayor problem, especially when unscrewing that old screw that
has been fastened several times
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asalcedo
The Medway Handyman
> The Medway Handyman;2674898 Wrote:
>> On 09/07/2011 13:40, asalcedo wrote:-
>> I have found that the head of the Screwfix Turbo Gold screws sometimes
>> breaks off when screwing into a plug in the wall.
>>
>> It seems they work better in wood.-
>>
>> They work exceptionally well in wood, but I've found they cut up plugs
>> quite badly.-
>>
>> What is the best screw for using with wall plugs?-
>>
>> Quicksilver.
>> -
>>
>> Are the Fisher Power-Fast or the Spax better for that purpose?-
>>
>> Dunno, but they are mucho expensive.
>>
>> And they are Rawlplug 'Uno' which are the mutts nutts.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave - The Medway Handyman 'the medway handyman for all those little
>> jobs that need to be done' (http://www.medwayhandyman.co.uk)
>
> The problem with Quicksilver screws is that the head wears out very
> easily.
I've not experienced that in 5 years of doing this for a living.
>
> That is a mayor problem, especially when unscrewing that old screw that
> has been fastened several times
Then don't reuse screws. Or use a decent bit - pozi & phillips are
incompatible.
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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
DerbyBorn
wrote:
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I agree with Tim - an old fashioned tapered screw causes the plug to
open up and expand into the hole. A modern screw tends to merely cut
a thread into the plug without opening it up. We have gone backwards!
John Rumm
>> On 09/07/2011 13:40, asalcedo wrote:-
>> I have found that the head of the Screwfix Turbo Gold screws sometimes
>> breaks off when screwing into a plug in the wall.
>>
>> It seems they work better in wood.-
>>
>> They work exceptionally well in wood, but I've found they cut up plugs
>> quite badly.-
>>
>> What is the best screw for using with wall plugs?-
>>
>> Quicksilver.
>> -
>>
>> Are the Fisher Power-Fast or the Spax better for that purpose?-
>>
>> Dunno, but they are mucho expensive.
>>
>> And they are Rawlplug 'Uno' which are the mutts nutts.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave - The Medway Handyman 'the medway handyman for all those little
>> jobs that need to be done' (http://www.medwayhandyman.co.uk)
>
> The problem with Quicksilver screws is that the head wears out very
> easily.
Personally I have found that QS are one of the better screws for
resisting head wear. However, you *must* use a bit that fits them well.
SF own brand bits (Erbauer) seem to work well, as do Wiha and Vira.
Ordinary steel bits are not really up to it - especially with the more
powerful drills and impact drivers.
> That is a mayor problem, especially when unscrewing that old screw that
> has been fastened several times
The moral of the story is don't reuse screws - or at least not more than
once. Its a false economy. On the rare ocations that a head does get
damaged mid way through driving, I will take the screw out and use
another rather than persist in trying to drive a damaged one.
John Rumm
>> incompatible.
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>
> I agree with Tim - an old fashioned tapered screw causes the plug to
> open up and expand into the hole. A modern screw tends to merely cut
> a thread into the plug without opening it up. We have gone backwards!
The old tapered screws cause a tapered expansion of the plug - with the
taper widest at the shallowest point. They also cut a thread in the
plug, but by their nature tend to destroy it again in the process of
driving the screw further into the hole. I would say it is more
important to drill the right sized clearance hole with parallel thread
screws, but personally I have never had any problem getting a decent
fixing with them into plugs.
(modern brown plugs tend to open up at the deep end more than along the
full length of the shank - anyway, and so are well suited to modern screws)
The Medway Handyman
>> incompatible.
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>
>
> I agree with Tim - an old fashioned tapered screw causes the plug to
> open up and expand into the hole. A modern screw tends to merely cut
> a thread into the plug without opening it up. We have gone backwards!
A Quicksilver in a Uno plug - easier to pull a sailor off your sister
than pull that out.
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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk