Smallest (bed)rooms
Martin Angove
thread I admitted I'd done a survey of garage and bedroom sizes...
well... would anyone care to admit the size of their smallest bedroom?
It'd be interesting to see what is out there, and whether it varies in
the expected way with house age.
So, if you feel like it, can you tell me
a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
metric)
b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
it just for show?
To start everyone off;
a: 2m35 by 2m.
b: 1930s - 70-odd years - 3-beds.
c: although we *have* squeezed the double bed in the room (minus
headboard), it is really only suitable for a single bed. It does make a
reasonable size room for a guest or for a young child, but would be far
too small for a teenager who might also want a desk.
Hwyl!
M.
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Jonathan@Home
> To start everyone off;
>
> a: 2m35 by 2m.
>
> b: 1930s - 70-odd years - 3-beds.
>
> c: although we *have* squeezed the double bed in the room (minus
> headboard), it is really only suitable for a single bed. It does make
> a reasonable size room for a guest or for a young child, but would be
> far too small for a teenager who might also want a desk.
>
can't mesure it as I'm at work, you can get a single bed in but not really
much else. It was a room for the baby so OK for a cot, I have my computer
in there now and my two boys, 5 & 2 share a room. When all the extending is
done they will have their own rooms and my computer will be in the converted
loft space. The stairs to the loft will be in the doorway of this little
room, we are cutting a door way in from our bedroom and turning it into an
ensuite shower room thought the archi has squeexed a bath in on his
drawings.
Cheers
Jonathan
Toby
b: 1903 3 bed red brick terrace, usual L shape affair
c: beds 2 & 3 are more of less the same size
headroom of 9' sorry 2m74 gets reduced in b3 to 2m55
rooms do get reduced by the chimmney breast
window cills are too low for a 600mm radiator
Toby.
in2minds
b. 1912 terraced miners house, was 4 bed, middle bedroom (2.5m x 2.5m) was turned into
bathroom approx 10 years ago.
c. has built in wardrobe with overhead cupboards along the longest wall and the bed
underneath the cupboards. the large window makes the room look much bigger, window sill
is only 0.3m above floor and ceilings are 2.5m high. ok for guests but no use if you
have teenagers.
LJ
Owain
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| a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
| metric)
| b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
| b: 1930s - 70-odd years - 3-beds.
a. 3m x 2.75m plus window recess
b. 1890s refurbished in 1980s, tenement flats. Originally the bedroom was
one room in a 4-apartment flat (and the rest of my flat was one room in
another 4-apt flat, a room was taken from each of two flats to create a new
smaller 2-apartment flat). Originally the room would have been 3m x 3.75m
but the living-room wall was moved 1m to make the bedroom smaller and the
living-room bigger.
Big enough for double bed, double+single wardrobes, big chest of drawers,
bookcase, run of dexion shelving. But I'm glad I'm single as the flat
overall would be a squeeze for a couple with lots of posessions.
Owain
Neil Jones
felt compelled to reply to:-
a) 3.5 m x 2.25m
b) House was built early 16th century so approx 500 years old.
Extended in 1995 and I think the current upstairs layout was
implemented at that point
c) Currently study/2nd spare room. Houses PC, desk and sofa bed - I
think it's big enough for a single, some furniture and a desk. Big
enough for a child - and hopefully will cope with a teenager, but
won't test the theory for at least 13 years and 9 months
Regards
Neil
Martin Angove
Since there seems to be some interest in this, when I think I've got
enough I'll post some kind of results. Judging from the replies so far
though, I can't see any definite pattern yet!
Hwyl!
M.
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IMM
"Jonathan@Home" <jona...@familyhall.org.uk> wrote in message
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> >
> > To start everyone off;
> >
> > a: 2m35 by 2m.
> >
> > b: 1930s - 70-odd years - 3-beds.
> >
> > c: although we *have* squeezed the double bed in the room (minus
> > headboard), it is really only suitable for a single bed.
This sounds alike a closet with windows. Built 1932, and lots here were on
about new houses having small rooms!!!
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Ben Blaney
>a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
>metric)
<fx: fishes out scanned estate agent details from purchase>
10'2" x 6'6"
<fx: scratches head>
umm... about three metres by two metres.
>b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
18 years old, four bedrooms.
>c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
>it just for show?
Never used it as a bedroom; it's a study now. Probably wouldn't be any
good.
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<MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote on Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:08:06
+0100:
>a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
>metric)
3.55m x 2.89m (less a 1.1m x 1.1m airing cupboard).
>b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
5 year old, two bedrooms. Standard Crest estate home.
>c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
>it just for show?
Definitely a (potential) double bedroom.
One of the reasons I chose my house was the well proportioned
bedrooms. The architects have taken the first floor and divided it
into two almost equal sized bedrooms, with the landing & bathroom in
the middle.
If I can muddy the waters, my parents ca. 1900 three bed terrace had a
smallest bedroom of 1.98m x 2.43m which was a squeeze to get a single
bed and any storage in there. I know; I spent 18 years in that room.
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mark
about 1.90m by 2.10m...I use it as a study at present but it does have
a single bed in it.
House was built in 1893 (I have the original deeds as the last time it
exchanged hands was in the '60s before the computerised land
registry), and has 5 bedrooms, three recs.
Cheers!
Snowman
"Martin Angove" <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> metric)
>
> b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
>
> c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
> it just for show?
>
a: 2.5m x 2.55m PLUS 1m x 0.65m built-in cupboard off it over the stairs.
b: built about 1960 as 3 bedrooms, but it's now 4 after a loft conversion.
c: yes it has been used as a bedroom, but is now used as a study and
occasionally has a chairbed moved in.
Peter.
Christian McArdle
>won't test the theory for at least 13 years and 9 months
Congratulations!
Christian.
Martin Angove
Martin Angove <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> a: 2m35 by 2m.
>
Just realised that door to this room is recessed too, so it's 2m35 by
2m, but 2.3m to door. I think I'm going to ignore doors and cupboards
from now on and just consider the "square" dimensions of the rooms.
> b: 1930s - 70-odd years - 3-beds.
>
> c: although we *have* squeezed the double bed in the room (minus
> headboard), it is really only suitable for a single bed. It does make a
> reasonable size room for a guest or for a young child, but would be far
> too small for a teenager who might also want a desk.
>
> Hwyl!
>
> M.
>
Ditto.
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a: 2.4 by 2.4m (but 2.7 into door)
b: 1960s, 4-bed. Two smallest bedrooms exactly the same dimensions
though one has wardrobe off (abt 1m by 0.7m) and the other has airing
cupboard over stairs off (abt 2m by 1m overall).
c: One room has single bed plus cot plus small chest of drawers in it at
the moment, though getting into the airing cupboard is a squeeze! This
same room was originally shared by me and my sister when we moved in in
the early 70s - we used bunk beds. As soon as the lodger moved out, my
sister had the other small room, and then when my grandfather died, I
had his room (bed 2) and my sister had both the small rooms. It stayed
this way through most of our teenage years. Both small rooms fine for a
single bed plus one other item of furniture, but anything else is a
squeeze.
Hwyl!
M.
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Mary Fisher
"Martin Angove" <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Just cos it's piqued my curiosity, remember that in the "new houses"
> thread I admitted I'd done a survey of garage and bedroom sizes...
> well... would anyone care to admit the size of their smallest bedroom?
> It'd be interesting to see what is out there, and whether it varies in
> the expected way with house age.
>
> So, if you feel like it, can you tell me
>
> a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> metric)
>
> b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
>
> c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
> it just for show?
>
> To start everyone off;
>
> a: 2m35 by 2m.
>
> b: 1930s - 70-odd years - 3-beds.
>
> c: although we *have* squeezed the double bed in the room (minus
> headboard), it is really only suitable for a single bed. It does make a
> reasonable size room for a guest or for a young child, but would be far
> too small for a teenager who might also want a desk.
Ours is about the same - dimensions and house. We had two teenage girls in
an ex-army bunk bed in there until they left for university. A military
wardrobe and to chests of drawers, on over the other, were their storage.
There wasn't much floor to be messy.
Mary
Martin Angove
I'm a regular uk.d-i-y lurker without usenet posting ability from here (at
work) so perhaps you can post this for me:-
a: from memory, about 3.5 m x 2.5 m
b: built early 16th century, so about 500 years old, 4 bedroom detatched
house. The house was extended in 1995 and I think the current upstairs
layout was established at that point
c: currently used as office/2nd spare room, with double sofa bed. Couldn't
really use it as a double bedroom but I'd have thought it large enough for a
single bed + furniture + desk for a child or teenager.
Regards
Neil
Done!
Hwyl!
M.
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John Lang Wilson
4 beds built 1976
Housed 2 x preschool in bunks, then largest boy (1.92m) in single bed
until he went to University.
He was given chance to move to larger room if he kept the exisiting one
tidy but he never did.
Now PC, junk store.
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David W.E. Roberts
"Martin Angove" <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> thread I admitted I'd done a survey of garage and bedroom sizes...
> well... would anyone care to admit the size of their smallest bedroom?
> It'd be interesting to see what is out there, and whether it varies in
> the expected way with house age.
>
> So, if you feel like it, can you tell me
>
> a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> metric)
2.4m * 2.9m - but I have chopped 2.4m * 1.9m off to make an en-suite.
> b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
1930s - this is the 5th bedroom over the garage - was a sloping roof glory
hole but was converted to a flat roof proper room by a previous owner.
> c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
> it just for show?
It will be used as an office but I have measured up and we could get a 5'
double bed in - but not much storage.
Certainly fine as a single.
Cheers
Dave R
Martin Angove
"David W.E. Roberts" <nos...@talk21.com> wrote:
>
> "Martin Angove" <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:22cd6f134...@tridwr.demon.co.uk...
> >
> > a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> > metric)
>
> 2.4m * 2.9m - but I have chopped 2.4m * 1.9m off to make an en-suite.
>
That leaves a very thin room - 2.4m by 1m. Is that right, or do you mean
that you have chopped 2.4m by 1m off, leaving the room 2.4m by 1.9m?
Thanks for your measurements. We're now up to 14 rooms in uk.d-i-y, and
I have 34 from developer brochures. I'll leave this another few days and
then make some results.
Hwyl!
M.
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Bob Eager
<MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks for your measurements. We're now up to 14 rooms in uk.d-i-y, and
> I have 34 from developer brochures. I'll leave this another few days and
> then make some results.
Our smallest bedroom....3.6m by 2.1m. Five bedroom house, built in
1903, originally detached, now middle one of three in an asymmetric
terrace!
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Mary Fisher
"Bob Eager" <rd...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:15:13 UTC, Martin Angove
> <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your measurements. We're now up to 14 rooms in uk.d-i-y, and
> > I have 34 from developer brochures. I'll leave this another few days and
> > then make some results.
>
> Our smallest bedroom....3.6m by 2.1m. Five bedroom house, built in
> 1903, originally detached, now middle one of three in an asymmetric
> terrace!
Wouldn't be allowed these days :-(
Mary
Bob Eager
<mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> "Bob Eager" <rd...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:176uZD2KcidF-p...@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:15:13 UTC, Martin Angove
> > <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for your measurements. We're now up to 14 rooms in uk.d-i-y, and
> > > I have 34 from developer brochures. I'll leave this another few days and
> > > then make some results.
> >
> > Our smallest bedroom....3.6m by 2.1m. Five bedroom house, built in
> > 1903, originally detached, now middle one of three in an asymmetric
> > terrace!
>
> Wouldn't be allowed these days :-(
What wouldn't?
Mary Fisher
> > >
> > > > Thanks for your measurements. We're now up to 14 rooms in uk.d-i-y,
and
> > > > I have 34 from developer brochures. I'll leave this another few days
and
> > > > then make some results.
> > >
> > > Our smallest bedroom....3.6m by 2.1m. Five bedroom house, built in
> > > 1903, originally detached, now middle one of three in an asymmetric
> > > terrace!
> >
> > Wouldn't be allowed these days :-(
>
> What wouldn't?
The last subject you mentioned.
"originally detached, now middle one of three in an asymmetric
> > > terrace!"
Mary
David W.E. Roberts
> In message <bfbq45$celk6$1...@ID-122774.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "David W.E. Roberts" <nos...@talk21.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Martin Angove" <MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:22cd6f134...@tridwr.demon.co.uk...
> > >
> > > a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> > > metric)
> >
> > 2.4m * 2.9m - but I have chopped 2.4m * 1.9m off to make an en-suite.
> >
> That leaves a very thin room - 2.4m by 1m. Is that right, or do you mean
> that you have chopped 2.4m by 1m off, leaving the room 2.4m by 1.9m?
Errr...well we did stand the 5' bed on end so we could sleep in it - there
was about 1'6" between the headboard and the ceiling for a small beside
cabinet.
Alternatively the two rooms are:
2.4m * 2.9m bedroom/office
plus
2.4m * 1.9m en-suite
giving an original room of
2.4m * 4.7m
Choose your own view of reality :-))
This would make our 4th bedroom of approx 2.3m * 3.7m the smallest.
Again you could squeeze in a double, but not without removing the built in
wardrobe and desk/bookshelves which is across one end.
Cheers
Dave R
Mary Fisher
> > > >
> > > > a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> > > > metric)
> > >
> > > 2.4m * 2.9m - but I have chopped 2.4m * 1.9m off to make an en-suite.
> > >
> > That leaves a very thin room - 2.4m by 1m. Is that right, or do you mean
> > that you have chopped 2.4m by 1m off, leaving the room 2.4m by 1.9m?
>
> Errr...well we did stand the 5' bed on end so we could sleep in it - there
> was about 1'6" between the headboard and the ceiling for a small beside
> cabinet.
Thast reminds me of the displays of upright baths in the sheds ...
Mary
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>
> W.
>
>
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Martin Angove
figures in anyway) I think it's almost time to call things to a halt so
that I can do some working-out. Since I originally posed the question in
the afternoon of the 17th, I declare that if you want to include your
measurements in my survey, you will need to get them posted here before
8pm on Thursday the 24th.
In case you've missed the thread, or it's expired from your news server,
here is my original message again.
Hwyl!
Marin.
> Just cos it's piqued my curiosity, remember that in the "new houses"
> thread I admitted I'd done a survey of garage and bedroom sizes...
> well... would anyone care to admit the size of their smallest bedroom?
> It'd be interesting to see what is out there, and whether it varies in
> the expected way with house age.
>
> So, if you feel like it, can you tell me
>
> a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> metric)
>
> b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
>
> c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
> it just for show?
>
> To start everyone off;
>
> a: 2m35 by 2m.
>
> b: 1930s - 70-odd years - 3-beds.
>
> c: although we *have* squeezed the double bed in the room (minus
> headboard), it is really only suitable for a single bed. It does make a
> reasonable size room for a guest or for a young child, but would be far
> too small for a teenager who might also want a desk.
>
> Hwyl!
>
> M.
>
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John Armstrong
<MJAn...@tridwr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Just cos it's piqued my curiosity, remember that in the "new houses"
>thread I admitted I'd done a survey of garage and bedroom sizes...
>well... would anyone care to admit the size of their smallest bedroom?
>It'd be interesting to see what is out there, and whether it varies in
>the expected way with house age.
>
>So, if you feel like it, can you tell me
>
>a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
>metric)
Awkward one, L shaped, 2350x2600 overall with 1070x850 off one corner
(stairs bulkhead).
>
>b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
100+ years old, 3 bedroom (this 1 + 2xdouble) now but this room was
subdivided off an excessively long bedroom by me a couple of years
back.
>
>c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
>it just for show?
>
Has room for a single bed + bedside cabinet and there is a built in
wardrobe in the stairs bulkhead. I only use it for storage at the
moment though.
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Woodspoiler
built-in cupboard caps the sloping bit over the stairs, leaving a
room 2245 square plus a 730x1200 dogleg where the door and
cupboard door go.
In theory you could shoehorn a double bed into it with virtually
no space for anything else, not even standing room, but in
practice we have a single bed taking up one wall, plus small
chair and small bedside table. We give it to guests who we don't
want to get too settled in. It would also make a reasonable small
home office.
House is 4 beds, built 1976
W.
@my_last_name.org.uk Richard Caley
ma> a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
ma> metric)
The problem is, of course, which rooms you count as bedrooms, and
which as storage rooms or large cuboards. What I use as a small
bedroom I have seen in other similar flats used as a large walk-in
wardrobe and storage area.
1.96m by 2.4m x 2.87m high (yes higher than it's biggest horizontal measurement).
ma> b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
~ 100year old 2 bedroom flat.
ma> c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
ma> it just for show?
Just takes a imperial sized matress across, but not a metric 2m one. I
had to build the (double) bed. There is room for a wardrobe and a
space to get dressed, the bed is raised with storage underneath.
But I turned the big bedroom into a library, and I have to have
somewhere to lie in bed and read the books!
So it works as a bedroom, but only as literally a bedroom. It is a
functional room on a par with the kitchen and bathroom, it is used
when I want to do something which involves a bed or wardrobe, just as
the bathroom is used when I want to do things which involve a bath,
shower or toilet. If you are of the school of thought that a bedroom
is a personal living space where you go to sit and do non bed related
things away from the world, then no.
For a young child's bedroom, given a single platform bed which left
the entire space available for a couple of cupboards and a desk/table
it would probably work. Even then they'd be bouncing off the walls.
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RichardS
> Just cos it's piqued my curiosity, remember that in the "new houses"
> thread I admitted I'd done a survey of garage and bedroom sizes...
> well... would anyone care to admit the size of their smallest bedroom?
> It'd be interesting to see what is out there, and whether it varies in
> the expected way with house age.
>
> So, if you feel like it, can you tell me
>
> a: the dimensions of your smallest bedroom (better keep everything
> metric)
2.75m x 1.9m
>
> b: the approximate age of your house and how many bedrooms it has.
>
Victorian terrace C.1890 - 3 beds.
> c: whether you think that the room is really useful as a bedroom, or is
> it just for show?
>
With a single bed in, certainly useful. It's only marginally smaller than
my room was in Uni halls.
Is currently my office, with a full length work-bench and bookcases
galore....
If I wanted to sell the house with three genuine doubles I could always
convert this room to the bathroom and the bathroom into a bedroom (this was
the configuration in a previous upstairs flat, exactly same house layout),
but then I suspect the gains in value wouldnt amount to a hill of beans, and
it wouldn't be that much more expensive to convert the loft & have 4
beds....
cheers
Richard
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Martin Angove
everyone who has submitted measurements and given comments. There is a
total of 55 rooms in the "survey", and I've arranged them into size
order by square meterage, largest first - we were looking for the
smallest, remember, so this way the suspense is maintained.
The preconception is that "modern" houses have the smaller bedrooms. My
own feelings were that the smallest were likely to be in houses built in
the 70s and 80s. To be honest, I can't really see much pattern in these
results at all, but that's probably down to the very low number of
samples, and the incredible skewing in favour of "brand new" houses:
while 20 of the bedrooms are those of uk.d-i-y-ers, 19 are from
"developers", and 16 are from a single timber-frame supplier, Potton,
whose sales literature I happen to have.
The only thing it *is* possible to glean is that uk.d-i-y-ers tend to
have older houses!
Some further information on the non-d-i-y houses: I have the information
from these because I was doing a smallest bedroom survey specifically on
four-bedroom houses so, apart from one exception (Barrat Epsom has two
entries), all the rooms in this category are fourth rooms. I don't think
adding modern 3 and 5 bedroom information would make a huge difference
though as, IME, the size of the "last" bedroom is reasonably constant.
Adding 2-bed information *might* make a difference as these tend to be
larger. Oh yes, one d-i-y-er also has two entries; before and after the
creation of an en-suite.
Anyway, I know you're all on the edges of your seats with anticipation.
Here are the full results. There was a "notes" column too, but this went
over my 72 character line limit and made a mess of the formatting:
House max min age sqm
Barrat Epsom bed 4 3.55 3.21 0 11.40
Toby 3.90 2.91 100 11.35
Potton Shire Bramfield 3.30 3.20 0 10.56
Hugo Nebula 3.55 2.89 5 10.26
Westbury Swaffham 3.35 3.04 0 10.18
Potton Shire Benington 4.20 2.40 0 10.08
Potton Heritage Waresley B 3.70 2.70 0 9.99
Potton Shire Ashwell 3.10 3.10 0 9.61
Barrat Ascot 3.50 2.67 0 9.35
Westbury Hampton 3.74 2.47 0 9.24
Potton Shire Heydon 3.00 3.00 0 9.00
in2minds 3.00 2.90 90 8.70
Westbury Forge Cottage 2.95 2.94 0 8.67
David W.E Roberts 3.70 2.30 70 8.51
Potton Rectory Papplewick B 3.50 2.40 0 8.40
Potton Shire Albury 3.00 2.80 0 8.40
Owain 3.00 2.75 110 8.25
Potton Heritage Caxton G 3.00 2.70 0 8.10
Potton Shire Kelshall 3.60 2.20 0 7.92
Neil Jones 3.50 2.25 10 7.88
Potton Heritage Gamlingay C 2.90 2.70 0 7.83
Barrat Windermere 2.81 2.76 0 7.76
Wilcon Harewood 2.96 2.61 0 7.73
Wilcon Hanbury 3.00 2.55 0 7.65
Bob Eager 3.60 2.10 100 7.56
John Lang Wilson 3.00 2.50 27 7.50
Potton Heritage Gamlingay D 3.30 2.20 0 7.26
Westbury Roxton 2.83 2.49 0 7.05
Barrat Epsom study/bed5 2.96 2.36 0 6.99
David W.E Roberts 2.90 2.40 70 6.96
Potton Shire Beyfrd 3.30 2.10 0 6.93
Potton Shire Elmdon 3.00 2.30 0 6.90
Wimpey Haughton 2.84 2.42 0 6.87
Wimpey Balmoral 2.87 2.37 0 6.80
Potton Heritage Caxton D 3.20 2.10 0 6.72
Wimpey Cambridge 3.16 2.12 0 6.70
Woodspoiler 2.97 2.25 27 6.67
Potton Heritage Comberton C 3.30 2.00 0 6.60
Snowman 2.55 2.50 43 6.38
Ben Blaney 3.10 1.98 18 6.14
John Armstrong 2.60 2.35 100 6.11
Wimpey Woodhaven 3.00 2.02 0 6.06
Barrat Gloucester 2.86 2.09 0 5.98
Wilcon Welbeck 2.45 2.41 0 5.90
Persimmon Budworth 2.78 2.12 0 5.89
Martin's mum & dad 2.40 2.40 36 5.76
Wimpey Hadleigh 2.84 1.94 0 5.51
Potton Heritage Caxton SH4 2.50 2.20 0 5.50
RichardS 2.75 1.90 110 5.23
Hugo's parents 2.43 1.98 100 4.81
Richard Caley 2.40 1.96 100 4.70
Martin Angove 2.35 2.00 70 4.70
Mary Fisher 2.35 2.00 70 4.70
Wimpey Hereford 2.39 1.91 0 4.56
markiremonger 2.10 1.90 110 3.99
As they say in all the best exam papers, discuss.
Hwyl!
M.
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Martin Angove (it's Cornish for "Smith") - ARM/Digital SA110 RPC
See the Aber Valley -- http://www.tridwr.demon.co.uk/abervalley.html
... Reduce brain fat. Eat Moral Fiber.
Toby
> over my 72 character line limit and made a mess of the formatting:
>
> House max min age sqm
> Barrat Epsom bed 4 3.55 3.21 0 11.40
> Toby 3.90 2.91 100 11.35
> Potton Shire Bramfield 3.30 3.20 0 10.56
Do I get a prize?
But seriously, thanks for completing the survey, I think you may have
skipped one obvious conclusion - you have too much idle curiosity.
--
Toby.
NTL. Bringing you yesterday's news today, and a bit of last week's. Maybe.
Martin Angove
"Toby" <TobyNew...@noUCE.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Here are the full results. There was a "notes" column too, but this went
> > over my 72 character line limit and made a mess of the formatting:
> >
> > House max min age sqm
> > Barrat Epsom bed 4 3.55 3.21 0 11.40
> > Toby 3.90 2.91 100 11.35
> > Potton Shire Bramfield 3.30 3.20 0 10.56
>
> Do I get a prize?
> But seriously, thanks for completing the survey, I think you may have
> skipped one obvious conclusion - you have too much idle curiosity.
>
Aah, but it's not idle :-) I started this when we were thinking we might
be building a house within 18 months or 2 years. I needed some figures
for bedrooms (and other areas) in order to calculate "comfortable" sizes
for rooms and compare them with "acceptable".
As it happens, the build has been put off to the 3-4 year timeframe, but
all this information is neatly filed away (ummm... kind of) and will
inform our decisions when the time arrives.
Hwyl!
M.
--
Martin Angove (it's Cornish for "Smith") - ARM/Digital SA110 RPC
See the Aber Valley -- http://www.tridwr.demon.co.uk/abervalley.html
... See that snail, That's your clock speed that is.
Andy Wade
> Well, here we are. The results, for what they're worth. [...]
> As they say in all the best exam papers, discuss.
Sorry Martin, missed this thread. You may wish to add my contribution: 2460
x 2180 mm, in 4-bed detached house built 1938.
--
Andy
Martin Angove
You can probably see where you fit into the list, and I'm not going to
post a new one for just one entry :-) But I will add you into my
database... for reference of course!
Thanks for your interest.
Hwyl!
M.
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Martin Angove http://www.tridwr.demon.co.uk/