How strong are shelf brackets (London Brackets)
laven...@yahoo.com
x 14" with the wall getting the 12". I have an 80cm worktop piece on
them.
How strong are these brackets and any idea as to how much weight they
could hold. I was going to get some of those wardrobe type supports
with a 3x2 piece at the back but went for the easy cheap option
unfortunately as it was going in my shed and not the house.
Weatherlawyer
laven...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> How strong are these brackets and any idea as to how much weight they
> could hold. I was going to get some of those wardrobe type supports
> with a 3x2 piece at the back but went for the easy cheap option
> unfortunately as it was going in my shed and not the house.
>
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:tix9dfFw51TefM:www.darkens.net.nz/05%2520D3%2520London%2520Bus.jpg
If they are anything like the ones in the article they should become
iconic furniture pieces long after their designed sell by date. Your
neighbours will come from all over just to sit on them.
I'd reinforce your shed walls if I were you.
Guy King
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> Bought a couple from Wickes as they were fairly cheap. bought the 12"
> x 14" with the wall getting the 12". I have an 80cm worktop piece on
> them.
I wouldn't sit anything heavier than a three year old on it.
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> from laven...@yahoo.com contains these words:
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>> Bought a couple from Wickes as they were fairly cheap. bought the
>> 12" x 14" with the wall getting the 12". I have an 80cm worktop
>> piece on them.
>
> I wouldn't sit anything heavier than a three year old on it.
a three year old what ? squirrel ? elephant ? apple ?
John Rumm
They are "ok" but not in the same league as the perforated rail type
adjustable shelving that screwfix et al will do you. I use quite a few
of them in my shed for small shelves and also directly as hanging hooks
for some things (the ends of them can be bent up to form a hooked end
which makes them good for hanging workmates etc from the wall for storage).
I would guess that you don't want more than say 30kg on a shelf
supported by two of them.
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meow...@care2.com
adequate for general purpose, but definitely not for heavy duty work.
Heavy duty brackets are costly though.
NT
Rob Morley
Weatherlawyer <Weathe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> laven...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > How strong are these brackets and any idea as to how much weight they
> > could hold. I was going to get some of those wardrobe type supports
> > with a 3x2 piece at the back but went for the easy cheap option
> > unfortunately as it was going in my shed and not the house.
> >
> A google image search for London Brackets got me this:
> http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:tix9dfFw51TefM:www.darkens.net.nz/05%2520D3%2520London%2520Bus.jpg
>
laven...@yahoo.com
compared to £1 for these.
Rob Morley
rectangular-section channel down the middle - I don't remember how much
they cost but if they'd been expensive I probably wouldn't have bought
any.
Guy King
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> Yes i know. the heavy duty brackets were between 6-10 a piece,
> compared to £1 for these.
Get the cheap ones and weld a diagonal brace to it.
laven...@yahoo.com
they were the ones at about £6. The industrial brackets were closer
to a tenner.
Just on this topic. It would be usefel to be able to weld things
together. Is there a cheap way out there. What is used for heating
the welding. will a blow torch do? and what is the name of the metal
that needs to be melted? or is welding done a different way?
Guy King
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> or is welding done a different way?
Personally I use a MIG welder - about the size of a thick mdium sized
suitcase. Takes a spool of steel wire 0.6 or 0.8mm thick and a bottle of
shield gas - CO2, argon or a mix of the two. Wire leads up a long thick
flex to a handset with a triger and a nozzle.
When you pull the trigger the current (variable by a knob on the
machine) is connected to the wire, gas flows and the wire is pushed out
at a steady rate (variable by a knob on the machine). Current flows
through the wire which melts and spatters onto the object being welded -
the current returns via a clamp on lead - bit like a jump lead - to the
machine. The molten wire and white hot pool of molten metal on the
workpiece don't burn away because of the shield gas which is pouring out
of the shroud round the wire-feed tip.
There - simple! Except it takes a steady hand, an iron nerve[1] and a
wooden leg[2] to master it[3].
[1] Not really, but there's white hot bits of spattering metal flying
about, lots of heat and fumes and glare (though of course you'd be using
a very densely coloured bit of glass in a headshield to look through -
or loose your eyesight). It's actually not that bad but if you're of a
nervous dispostion it'll give you the willies.
[2] I made that bit up.
[3] Actually, it's not /that/ hard, but like many manual skills it gets
better with practice. It gets better if you understand what's happening
as well as just practice.
meow...@care2.com
> Yes i know. the heavy duty brackets were between 6-10 a piece,
> compared to £1 for these.
not sure where you're buying, take a look at screwfix. Quarter ton
brackets around £2 iirc. Thats for ones with no diagonal support bar,
ones with a diagonal are generally a fair bit cheaper.
DIY wood brackets are quite workable in many cases, but arent slimline
like steel, and do need the diagonal. And its wise to stand on them to
strength check if youre going to load them heavily.
NT
Guy King
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> DIY wood brackets are quite workable in many cases, but arent slimline
> like steel, and do need the diagonal. And its wise to stand on them to
> strength check if youre going to load them heavily.
Ikea do some rather nice chunky laminated shelf brackets.
meow...@care2.com
> The message <1143142937.5...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> from meow...@care2.com contains these words:
> > DIY wood brackets are quite workable in many cases, but arent slimline
> > like steel, and do need the diagonal. And its wise to stand on them to
> > strength check if youre going to load them heavily.
> Ikea do some rather nice chunky laminated shelf brackets.
I suppose it would be quite possible to cut lots of brackets out of a
sheet of 18mm ply. If theyre a hollow right angle triangle shape, with
1" wall depth, half a square foot wuold give you:
1 bracket 12x12"
1 bracket 9.5x9,5"
1 bracket 7x7"
1 bracket 4.5x4.5"
and a 2x2" piece useful for not much.
Thats 8 serious brackets per sq ft of ply, or 128 brackets per 8x4 of
ply (plus a lot of not very useful 2" ones)
4x8 of 18mm ply is £25 at wickes, so thats 20p a bracket plus a years
labour.
NT
Neil
Why re they called London Brackets???
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The Natural Philosopher
> replying to lavenders19, Neil wrote:
> Why re they called London Brackets???
>
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harry
All you need to do is put them closer together (ie more of them.)
You can make the shelf as strong as you like.
Andrew
> On 19/08/16 19:14, Neil wrote:
>> replying to lavenders19, Neil wrote:
>> Why re they called London Brackets???
>>
> Because they are made in india.
>
>
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NT
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> replying to lavenders19, Neil wrote:
> Why re they called London Brackets???
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alan_m
> The wall should get the longer side, every time!
>
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