Lifting stuff into loft alone ...
Barb
go up there. Nothing big or heavy.
I live alone - nobody to hand thing up to me - and wonder whether anyone has
any suggestions about making a sort of mesh bag with a rope I could use to
haul stuff up and down, more easily than trying to push stuff up the ladder
with me? As well as being easier, this would be safer.
I've thought of a heavy duty rubble bag with some rope, which would work,
but a mesh bag would be better.
Any suggestions gratefully accepted!
Barb.
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Barb" <blac...@non.com> saying
something like:
>Any suggestions gratefully accepted!
Get a small eclectic hoist.
d...@gglz.com
You could mount a gin wheel from the roof beams, directly above the
hatch, with a rope long enough to hang a bucket one end, and a
counterweight the other - plus an extra tail of rope to haul on,
hanging past each end.
Set the rope length so that when the counterweight hits the floor
below the hatch, the bucket is in just the right place for unloading
in the loft - but you can still grab the rope tail on the bucket to
haul it back down.
Andy Dingley
> go up there. Nothing big or heavy.
Gin pulley, light rope and a strong bag. Ikea's blue ones are pretty
good. You'll also find a cleat fastened on the wall below to be
useful, otherwise learn a good hitch and tie to the banisters.
Electric hoists are really cheap these days (Maplin had one at twenty
quid!)
stuart noble
For "nothing big or heavy" I just push it up the ladder. By the time you
get to shoulder height you can normally lean back on the hatch frame for
support and use both hands. Things where there isn't room in the opening
for you and the item you could push up with a broom.
TheScullster
"stuart noble" wrote
>
> For "nothing big or heavy" I just push it up the ladder. By the time you
> get to shoulder height you can normally lean back on the hatch frame for
> support and use both hands. Things where there isn't room in the opening
> for you and the item you could push up with a broom.
Agreed
If you can find a cardboard box of the right dimensions, you can slide it up
the ladder stiles ahead of you.
Assuming you have a ladder fitted I suspect you would need a similar box if
you were using a hoist.
The lifted object would snag the ladder steps otherwise (assuming you have a
fitted loft ladder that is)
Phil
RobertL
> Hi, I just had a ladder fitted to access my loft, and I have a few things to
> go up there. Nothing big or heavy.
Fix a small pulley to the rafters directly above the loft. This makes
things much much easier both for lifting thigns up and also for
getting them down again.
To answer the question, I just use a rope and tie it round whatever is
to be lifted, but I do know how to tie knots properly.
Robert
Andrew Mawson
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Robert
Why all these complcated solutions? All you need is a large cupboard
in a suitable place. Install "The Medway Handyman" in the cupboard.
and call on his services whenever the desire arises <G>
AWEM
Lee Nowell
As a simple option since the items are not big or heavy..... why not
get something to stand on to enable you to reach to put the items on a
board next to the loft hatch. Once you have put them up there, you
can go up the ladder yourself and put them wherever you need to in the
loft.
T i m
>You could mount a gin wheel from the roof beams, directly above the
>hatch, with a rope long enough to hang a bucket one end, and a
>counterweight the other - plus an extra tail of rope to haul on,
>hanging past each end.
>
>Set the rope length so that when the counterweight hits the floor
>below the hatch, the bucket is in just the right place for unloading
>in the loft - but you can still grab the rope tail on the bucket to
>haul it back down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUJLO6lMhI
;-)
T i m
Phil L
The biggest problem you will face with all these suggestions is the fact
that the ladder will be in the way when you are using the rope, pulley,
whatever.
Even if you just lash the rope to the bag, climb the ladder, get into the
loft with the rope and haul it up that way, the ladder will still be in the
way, and it's not 'safer' when you are in the loft and the bag has dislodged
the ladder below you and there's no one else in the house.
If you don't feel safe carrying stuff up there in say plastic carrier bags,
one at a time, then you may be better getting an extendable clothes line
prop, (the sort with a hook at the end) and hooking a bag onto it, extending
it up, climbing the ladder and lifting it off at the top.
--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008
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"Barb" <blac...@non.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, I just had a ladder fitted to access my loft, and I have a few things
> to go up there. Nothing big or heavy.
>
> I live alone - nobody to hand thing up to me
Now you live alone and have shot of your partner do like I did.
Cut the body parts into small pieces and put them out a bit at
a time for the birds/vermin etc. Any larger parts put into thick
sacks with a decent amount of lime. Keep the bag sizes small
and you should have no problem hauling the remainder into
the attic space. If it's a shared spaced or there is a break in the
party wall throw them over their side.
--
The man who smiles when things go wrong
has thought of someone to blame it on.
Dave Liquorice
> As a simple option since the items are not big or heavy..... why not
> get something to stand on to enable you to reach to put the items on a
> board next to the loft hatch.
That's what I do except that the "something to stand on" are the
lower rungs of the loft ladder. Using the ladder means you have
variable height, light things can be shoved across more or less at
arms length, heavier things you go further up.
A gin wheel with only one person isn't particulary convient, you are
always at the wrong end so you have to go fully up and down for each
load. With the lift it up and shove it across method you only go
up/down as much as you need to.
--
Cheers
Dave.
Mike Clarke
> Gin pulley, light rope and a strong bag. Ikea's blue ones are pretty
> good. You'll also find a cleat fastened on the wall below to be
> useful, otherwise learn a good hitch and tie to the banisters.
Reminds me of Gerard Hoffnung's "Bricklayer's Story".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUJLO6lMhI or
http://monologues.co.uk/004/Bricklayers_Story.htm for just the text.
--
Mike Clarke
Spamlet
Experience with large Christmas tree box which is only slightly smaller than
the opening, tells me the easiest way is first to take off any 'hand rails'
that are bolted in the way on either side of the ladder. Then to lift the
box on to the first joint, then get your head under it and walk up sliding
it before you as you go. Hoisting stuff up from above means tricky
negotiations around the ladder. Just find a suitable sized box and put your
stuff in it and slide it up in front of you.
S
Andrew Gabriel
What about a second loft hatch, or enlarging the existing one
(preferable along, rather than across, the ceiling joists)?
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Andrew Gabriel
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Spamlet
"Andrew Gabriel" <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Getting OT, but ours are a bit old for mucking about with much: though a
certain amount was necessary to fix the ladder in. In our case the hatch is
right under a corner angle of the roof too, which makes for some nifty
twists to one side as you poke things through.
S
S
Chris J Dixon
>Barb wrote:
>> Hi, I just had a ladder fitted to access my loft, and I have a few
>> things to go up there. Nothing big or heavy.
>>
>> I live alone - nobody to hand thing up to me - and wonder whether
>> anyone has any suggestions about making a sort of mesh bag with a
>> rope I could use to haul stuff up and down, more easily than trying
>> to push stuff up the ladder with me? As well as being easier, this
>> would be safer.
>The biggest problem you will face with all these suggestions is the fact
>that the ladder will be in the way when you are using the rope, pulley,
>whatever.
Indeed. My roof truss and landing layout pretty well rules out
fitting a loft ladder, but if I did, I'm not sure I could easily
get stuff through the hatch.
I have an old pair of steps which can be used in both "A" and
straight configuration. For a bulky load, use the steps in "A",
work the load up a step at a time, then get beneath it and shove
it through the hatch. Then unfold the steps, rest the top end
inside the hatch, climb up and move the load to its final resting
place.
Bringing stuff down is essentially the reverse process.
Actually, that reminds me to review why I am still keeping some
of what is up there ;-)
Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
ch...@cdixon.me.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.
Robin
> fitting a loft ladder,
>
FWIW we had that problem (small Victorian terrace with loft hatch on
landing near party wall). There was no space in the loft for the ladder
to lie flat. Solved it by using a pulley (or gin) on a rafter above one
edge of the hatch. A rope through that pulley attached to a sling
through the top rung allows it to be pulled up and then (with a pull on
the stowing pole hooked into the bottom of the ladder) tilted so the
top rungs rest on 2 big hooks screwed into the wall.
Obviously wouldn't work without vertical space in the loft for the
ladder plus somewhere to fit the hooks. But it's served us for 20-odd
years; and the mechanical advantage of the pulley makes it easier to get
the ladder up and down than with just the stowing pole. Indeed, I
wonder how wimps like me are meant to cope with just the stowing pole if
their loft ladders get as stiff as ours.
--
Robin
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Dr Hfuhruhurr
Ikea Bag 40p
Some cheap rope couple of quid.
Load up the bag and carry the rope (tied to the bag of course) into
the loft with you
Feet either side of the opening and lift. Easy Peasy.
The Medway Handyman
> Why all these complcated solutions? All you need is a large cupboard
> in a suitable place. Install "The Medway Handyman" in the cupboard.
> and call on his services whenever the desire arises <G>
How 'large'? What are you saying? :-)
--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
The Medway Handyman
>
> Ikea Bag 40p
> Some cheap rope couple of quid.
> Load up the bag and carry the rope (tied to the bag of course) into
> the loft with you
> Feet either side of the opening and lift. Easy Peasy.
At last someone came up with the obvious solution!
Barb
"The Medway Handyman" <davi...@no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Bricklayer's Story", which I'd completely forgotten about, but is still as
hilarious as ever!
I think I'll go for the Ikea bag and rope, plus a simple pulley over the
loft hatch. I can get the bag and the pulley on Ebay, and the rope from B&Q
or the like. Sorted!
I do, in fact, have a strapping son, but I don't like to ask him to do too
much as he's doing up his own house - and I want to "save" him to put me in
a breakfast bar!!! I'm the independent sort, and would simply like to get
stuff up and down by myself - as you say, xmas tree and the like.
I did consider chopping up my ex and stashing him in various places, but
I've kind of grown out of that idea, and he's moved to Chesterfield anyway
......
Barb