Reducing limescale

[Peter Percival]

Do things like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
work? If yes, how?
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Behind another Elephant
Behind /another/ Elephant who isn't really there....
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[Davey]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:46:36 +0100
Peter Percival <peterxp...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Do things like this:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
> work? If yes, how?

It has an exclamation mark at the end of the description. Instant
turn-off!!

The first answer is 'no', so there is no second answer.

--
Davey.

[Bob Minchin]

Peter Percival wrote:
> Do things like this:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
> work? If yes, how?

Is it snake oil season again? Within 30 minutes we have power reducing
transformer con (titled Miracle?) and magnetic de-scalers raising their
ugly heads!

[David.WE.Roberts]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:46:36 +0100, Peter Percival wrote:

> Do things like this:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/
B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
> work? If yes, how?

Took a similar electric one out when we refurbed the back of the house.
The short run of copper pipe with the magic wire coiled round it was
furred up on the inside.

May post a photo one day.

Cheers

Dave R

[Steve Firth]

Peter Percival <peterxp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Do things like this:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
> work?

They work for their intended purpose which is to get you to pay good money
for cheap tat.


> If yes, how?

I have this bottle of snake oil, cures all ills, does away with pills. You
can buy a case for only fifty bucks.

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[Adrian]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:18:13 +0000, Steve Firth wrote:

>> Do things like this:

>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002FKFWP6

>> work?

> They work for their intended purpose which is to get you to pay good
> money for cheap tat.

Then there's ones that plug into the mains. There's one of those lurking
in our utility room - my gut instinct is that it's a waste of space, but
you never know...

"Micro-Wave Computerised Scale Control" - typical 200mA/8v wall-wart PSU,
and a small wire that's wrapped tightly around the main water pipe in,
with both ends connected to the box. There's a little green LED to show
you that it's working, too. Woo!

I'm so tempted to take it apart and see what's inside. Bets on it just
lighting the light?

[Adrian]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:43:12 +0000, Adrian wrote:

> Then there's ones that plug into the mains. There's one of those lurking
> in our utility room - my gut instinct is that it's a waste of space, but
> you never know...
>
> "Micro-Wave Computerised Scale Control"

One of these...
http://www.watertreatmentdirect.co.uk/htmltemp/pdf/easy_to_fit/
easy_to_fit-microwave_waterwave.pdf

[Nthkentman]

"Peter Percival" wrote in message news:kp6v6e$pl4$2...@news.albasani.net...

Do things like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
work? If yes, how?

No


Invest in a water softener and enjoy the difference

[Davey]

Seconded with enthusiasm.
--
Davey.

[polygonum]

If it causes scale to precipitate out, then not having a means of
removing the scale is crap design. I'd be far more likely to believe in
them if they unscrewed and allowed cleaning out!

--
Rod

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:46:36 +0100, Peter Percival

<peterxp...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Do things like this:
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
>work?

They work at lightening your wallet.
Anyone who says they do is in the business of selling them or simply
deluding themselves, and is therefore a liar and not to be trusted.

[Dave Liquorice]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:07:23 +0100, Davey wrote:

>> Invest in a water softener and enjoy the difference
>
> Seconded with enthusiasm.

Or move to somewhere that has a decent, soft, water supply.

--
Cheers
Dave.

[alan]

On 11/06/2013 11:46, Peter Percival wrote:
> Do things like this

> work?

Yes

> If yes, how?

They are made of the purest of snake oils.


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["Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬)"]

On 11/06/2013 11:46, Peter Percival wrote:

> Do things like this:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
> work? If yes, how?

While I'd generally follow the "load of rubbish" crowd on this one I do
have to take a step back and put another point across (as of last Friday)

Many years ago (about 20) my brother fitted one of these "plumbed in"
super strong magnetic "cartridge" things to his house, I poopoo'd it at
the time however, seeing it re-fitted at his new house I questioned him
on it and why he'd actually bothered to take it with him when he moved
house.

He swears blind it makes a significant difference.

Example given: For the first 5 years of living in his first house the
kettle scaled up all the time and had to regularly be de-scaled to get
rid of the hard scale build-up. He then fitted the perma-magnet thing
and out rightly confirmed that for the next 15 years he hadn't had to
de-scale his kettle once.

(He also fitted on to our Mums house and she also doesn't have the "hard
scale" problems on the kettle that we remembered as kids)

He agreed that it didn't "remove" scale but seemed to make it softer so
the scale was more like a powder that was poured out with the boiled
water rather than left on the kettle internals.
He also said that his shower head didn't ever scale up. Whereas the
shower head on my first house had to regularly be given the viakal(sp)
treatment. (same water area)

He also went so far as to say that one of his neighbours a few doors
away fitted one of those wire-wound jobbies and he found it did actually
"descale" his kettle!

So as much as I want to disbelieve the lack of apparent research, I
can't deny the fact that my brother is adamant that the effects were so
significant he spent time actually removing it from one house to take to
the next and of course having to patch up the pipe-work where he chopped
it out! All for the sake of a £15 (20 years ago) device that "doesn't
work" !

I can't comment myself as I fitted a proper water softener although I am
now contemplating fitting a magnet jobbie to the main toilet of the
house which I didn't plumb into the soft water side as it's used so
regularly but now has a little bit of hard stuff building up either side
of the bend...

Pete@
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http://www.gymequipment.freeindex.co.uk/

[Theo Markettos]

"Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬)" <nob...@nowhere.cot> wrote:
> I can't comment myself as I fitted a proper water softener although I am
> now contemplating fitting a magnet jobbie to the main toilet of the
> house which I didn't plumb into the soft water side as it's used so
> regularly but now has a little bit of hard stuff building up either side
> of the bend...

It wouldn't be hard to run a controlled trial:

Get someone to install two taps. One has a magnetic device on the pipe run,
the other doesn't. The pipes are boxed in so you can't tell which.

Each tap fills a separate kettle. Any time you want a cup of tea, you fill
both kettles equally from the respective tap. You boil both kettles. You
make your tea from one or other kettle. You throw away the water from both
every time.

The level of scaling in the kettle should be a reasonable indicator of if it
makes a difference...

Theo

[polygonum]

Let us know the results, please.

--
Rod

[Peter Percival]

"Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;�)" wrote:

>
> He also went so far as to say that one of his neighbours a few doors
> away fitted one of those wire-wound jobbies and he found it did actually
> "descale" his kettle!

So it makes water acidic, and rather strongly acidic at that? I don't
like being negative (-:), but that paragraph alone makes me doubt the
judgement of the other people you mention in your post.

[Peter Percival]

Peter Percival wrote:
> Do things like this:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnetic-Conditioner-670-Instant-Limescale/dp/B002FKFWP6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_diy_2
> work? If yes, how?

Thank you for all replies. My doubts have been confirmed!