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MarkG

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Jun 9, 2011, 2:47:55 PM6/9/11
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Hi, had some building work done, and the existing bathroom toilet overflow
is now inside a new part of the house! I notice in B&Q most new toilets
have internal overflows. I am planning on getting the bathroom redone
eventually, but need a mean-time fix. Is it possible to convert an
existing toilet cistern to internal overflow?

Thanks!

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Gazz

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Jun 9, 2011, 2:56:02 PM6/9/11
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"MarkG" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, had some building work done, and the existing bathroom toilet overflow
> is now inside a new part of the house! I notice in B&Q most new toilets
> have internal overflows. I am planning on getting the bathroom redone
> eventually, but need a mean-time fix. Is it possible to convert an
> existing toilet cistern to internal overflow?

yup, just replace the syphon for one of the dual flush or flap type valves,
most have internal overflows as standard,

MarkG

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Jun 9, 2011, 3:05:53 PM6/9/11
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:47:55 +0100, MarkG <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Hi, had some building work done, and the existing bathroom toilet
> overflow is now inside a new part of the house! I notice in B&Q most
> new toilets have internal overflows. I am planning on getting the
> bathroom redone eventually, but need a mean-time fix. Is it possible to
> convert an existing toilet cistern to internal overflow?
>
> Thanks!
>


Ooops, forgot to include a pic of the existing cistern!!
http://i53.tinypic.com/21eq3bl.jpg

hugh

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Jun 9, 2011, 3:05:45 PM6/9/11
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In message <op.vwtnt5wf6ty74g@desktop64>, MarkG <nos...@nospam.com>
writes

>Hi, had some building work done, and the existing bathroom toilet
>overflow is now inside a new part of the house! I notice in B&Q most
>new toilets have internal overflows. I am planning on getting the
>bathroom redone eventually, but need a mean-time fix. Is it possible
>to convert an existing toilet cistern to internal overflow?
>
>Thanks!
>
Yes - by replacing it (as IBM used to say)
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Lawrence

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Jun 9, 2011, 3:40:44 PM6/9/11
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Get a dual flush kit. I bought one for £12.50 the other week. You will
also need a blanking plug for the existing overflow. Never seen one on sale
but I've never been looking for one.
I was surprised at how easy it was to fit.
Turn off water and then flush.
Undo the two screws securing it to wall.
Undo two wingnuts securing it to pan.
Undo flexible connector from supply.
Lift cistern from pan and empty remaining water.
Remove rubber doughnut from under cistern.
Remove big nut securing syphon. Remove nut on back of flush handle.
Replace with new kit - take special note of which rubber washer goes where.
(you might want to add a little smear of silicone grease)
Replace doughnut (with silicone grease)
Refit cistern. Don't overtighten screws in the back!!!)

Jobs a good one.

Lawrence

MarkG

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Jun 9, 2011, 4:03:45 PM6/9/11
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:40:44 +0100, Lawrence <l.mil...@tiscali.co.uk>
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Would I be looking form something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fluidmaster-Toilet-Conversion-kit-400UKK077-/320709655742?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item4aabc8fcbe

polygonum

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Jun 9, 2011, 4:11:54 PM6/9/11
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I have seen a piece of ordinary copper pipe fitted from the overflow
outlet down to the rim of the bowl. The end was flattened and just fitted
under the seat. Not pretty. Possibly not effective (i.e. might not manage
a full flow problem) but worked for 'ordinary' not quite cutting off
issues.

Rod

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Tim Watts

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Jun 9, 2011, 6:32:11 PM6/9/11
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polygonum wrote:

I saw one the other day where the overflow was taken down the cistern
outside, then underneath and bossed into the side of the plastic main pipe.

But as others had said, the easiest answer is to change the flush mechanism
to one with an inbuilt overflow.

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Jun 10, 2011, 9:01:19 AM6/10/11
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I saw one the other day where the overflow was taken down the cistern
outside, then underneath and bossed into the side of the plastic main pipe.

But as others had said, the easiest answer is to change the flush mechanism
to one with an inbuilt overflow.

--
Tim Watts

I once saw a couple of similar ones - using hose pipes. It made me wonder
how much water was being wasted as I guess there must have been a problem in
the first place. Amazing how fixing a ball valve seems to be rocket science
to some people and they would prefer to climb a ladder and do a bodge with a
pipe. I liked the concept of the "Warning Pipe"

Lawrence

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Jun 10, 2011, 2:48:59 PM6/10/11
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"MarkG" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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The fluidmaster kits are good but you really don't need to change the
inlet/float valve as well as the syphon. B&Q do them individually.

Lawrence

AJR

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Oct 17, 2018, 9:14:16 AM10/17/18
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replying to Tim Watts, AJR wrote:
ours is constructed like this and the result is a smell of drains coming up
through the overflow pipe and into the bathroom. would have thought an
internal overflow system is better!

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rde42

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Oct 17, 2018, 4:44:05 PM10/17/18
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replying to AJR, rde42 wrote:
Why are you replying to a post that's over seven years old?

alan_m

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Oct 17, 2018, 5:42:35 PM10/17/18
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On 17/10/2018 21:44, rde42 wrote:
> replying to AJR, rde42 wrote:
> Why are you replying to a post that's over seven years old?
>

I was under the impression that an overflow water flow had to be visible
and not hidden by connecting the overflow pipe to the soil stack as
apparently this this homeuserhub user has done.

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John Rumm

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Oct 18, 2018, 6:45:08 AM10/18/18
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On 17/10/2018 22:42, alan_m wrote:
> On 17/10/2018 21:44, rde42 wrote:
>> replying to AJR, rde42 wrote:
>> Why are you replying to a post that's over seven years old?
>>
>
> I was under the impression that an overflow water flow had to be visible

That was at one time a requirement, but ISTR the rules were changed.
Hence internal overflow into the pan is now common.




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Oct 18, 2018, 7:10:07 AM10/18/18
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"alan_m" <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 17/10/2018 21:44, rde42 wrote:
>> replying to AJR, rde42 wrote:
>> Why are you replying to a post that's over seven years old?
>>
>
> I was under the impression that an overflow water flow had to be visible
> and not hidden by connecting the overflow pipe to the soil stack as
> apparently this this homeuserhub user has done.
>
shocking


Jim GM4DHJ ...

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Oct 18, 2018, 7:13:06 AM10/18/18
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"John Rumm" <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote in message
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> On 17/10/2018 22:42, alan_m wrote:
>> On 17/10/2018 21:44, rde42 wrote:
>>> replying to AJR, rde42 wrote:
>>> Why are you replying to a post that's over seven years old?
>>>
>>
>> I was under the impression that an overflow water flow had to be visible
>
> That was at one time a requirement, but ISTR the rules were changed. Hence
> internal overflow into the pan is now common.
>
>
>
facing a high level cystern overflow down into the pan stopped people using
the cludgy and brought on a repair ..... ah the good old days...


charles

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Oct 18, 2018, 7:15:20 AM10/18/18
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In article <fPadnbEzIKms-VXG...@brightview.co.uk>,
John Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:
> On 17/10/2018 22:42, alan_m wrote:
> > On 17/10/2018 21:44, rde42 wrote:
> >> replying to AJR, rde42 wrote:
> >> Why are you replying to a post that's over seven years old?
> >>
> >
> > I was under the impression that an overflow water flow had to be
> > visible

> That was at one time a requirement, but ISTR the rules were changed.
> Hence internal overflow into the pan is now common.

but, into the pan is visible or at least audible

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