New BBC and Absolute radio streaming URLS

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 13, 2021, 11:46:12 AM3/13/21

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On 13/03/2021 13:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> For people who just want to listen and not go through the faff of 3rd
> party programs or hardware

Ohh that works good, but where's Times Radio?

Bill

Andy Burns

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Mar 13, 2021, 12:04:37 PM3/13/21

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williamwright wrote:

> Ohh that works good, but where's Times Radio?

<https://timesradio.wireless.radio/stream>

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 13, 2021, 12:16:46 PM3/13/21

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http://timesradio.wireless.radio/stream?ref=rf

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> Bill

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Robin

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Mar 13, 2021, 12:40:41 PM3/13/21

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On 13/03/2021 13:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> For people who just want to listen and not go through the faff of 3rd
> party programs or hardware
>

It's not D-I-Y but I use <http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/default.asp>
because it offers the choice of the different codecs and different
quality streams incl HLS

http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/mp3.asp
http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/other.asp
etc

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T i m

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Mar 13, 2021, 12:45:13 PM3/13/21

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:11:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society,
over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

Frédéric Bastiat"

Yup, especially re the *trillions* of animals we needlessly kill and
exploit every year and often treat in ways that would gain you
societal hatred and possibly a prison sentence if you treated *some*
animals the exact same way.

https://ibb.co/ZVXLsjL

Hypocrisy, logical inconsistency and cognitive dissonance at it's
worst.

Cheers, T i m

John Rumm

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Mar 13, 2021, 1:26:45 PM3/13/21

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On 13/03/2021 17:45, T i m wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:11:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society,
> over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
> authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
>
> Frédéric Bastiat"
>
> Yup, especially re the *trillions* of animals we needlessly kill and
> exploit every year and often treat in ways that would gain you
> societal hatred and possibly a prison sentence if you treated *some*
> animals the exact same way.

Since you are aware that the figures you quote are implausible (since
that would require that every man woman child and baby on the planet
consume thousands of animals each per year), why do keep repeating
nonsense like this?

> Hypocrisy, logical inconsistency and cognitive dissonance at it's
> worst.

Ah, sorry I missed that bit - yes you are right, that does explain your
problem.

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T i m

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Mar 13, 2021, 1:55:41 PM3/13/21

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:26:41 +0000, John Rumm
<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:

>On 13/03/2021 17:45, T i m wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:11:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society,
>> over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
>> authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
>>
>> Frédéric Bastiat"
>>
>> Yup, especially re the *trillions* of animals we needlessly kill and
>> exploit every year and often treat in ways that would gain you
>> societal hatred and possibly a prison sentence if you treated *some*
>> animals the exact same way.
>
>Since you are aware that the figures you quote are implausible (since
>that would require that every man woman child and baby on the planet
>consume thousands of animals each per year), why do keep repeating
>nonsense like this?

Because they are facts mate (and who mentioned 'consume')? Please try
to put brain in gear ... ;-)

https://www.anonymousforthevoiceless.org/kill-counter

>
>> Hypocrisy, logical inconsistency and cognitive dissonance at it's
>> worst.
>
>Ah, sorry I missed that bit - yes you are right, that does explain your
>problem.

Ah, my problem', the needless suffering and slaughter of trillions of
animals every year and all the negative side effects that go with it
are 'my problem' are they? I wonder what explains your drive for
denial then ... or why it would really matter if it were trillions or
just billions?

What were we discussing about left brainers, numbers and missing the
spirit of the point? ;-(

I wonder if you having family involved in the whole animal
exploitation process would have anything to do with your attempt to
spread FUD? ;-(

https://faunalytics.org/animal-advocacy-by-numbers/

Cheers, T i m

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 13, 2021, 2:20:55 PM3/13/21

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On 13/03/2021 17:40, Robin wrote:
> On 13/03/2021 13:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> For people who just want to listen and not go through the faff of 3rd
>> party programs or hardware
>>
>
> It's not D-I-Y but I use <http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/default.asp>
> because it offers the choice of the different codecs and different
> quality streams incl HLS
>
> http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/mp3.asp
> http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/other.asp
> etc
>

yes. I found that site - a good source.
My issue was to create a unified interface to live radio and TV,
recorded material - music and DVD and off air TV - that would be
globally accessible.

So I could ditch DVD plates, CD players. radio tuners etc etc and just
run everything of networked devices .

That list was what went into the code

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Fredxx

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Mar 13, 2021, 2:55:06 PM3/13/21

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On 13/03/2021 18:55, T i m wrote:

<snip>

> Ah, my problem', the needless suffering and slaughter of trillions of
> animals every year and all the negative side effects that go with it
> are 'my problem' are they?

What is it withy fanatical vegans. Really "trillions" of animals.

Are we talking of ants, insects or some other small single celled creatures?

On the other hand,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_slaughter

It seems only 1/14 of your trillion animals (less if you claim
trillions) are slaughtered for meat and meat products, so best think of
other candidates for your small minded abuse?

Fredxx

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Mar 13, 2021, 2:57:50 PM3/13/21

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On 13/03/2021 17:45, T i m wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:11:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society,
> over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
> authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
>
> Frédéric Bastiat"
>
> Yup, especially re the *trillions* of animals we needlessly kill and
> exploit every year and often treat in ways that would gain you
> societal hatred and possibly a prison sentence if you treated *some*
> animals the exact same way.

What is it withy fanatical vegans. Really "trillions" of animals.

Are we talking of ants, insects or some other small single celled creatures?

On the other hand,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_slaughter

It seems only 1/14 of your trillion animals (less if you claim
trillions) are slaughtered for meat and meat products, so best think of
other candidates for your small minded abuse?

> https://ibb.co/ZVXLsjL
>
> Hypocrisy, logical inconsistency and cognitive dissonance at it's
> worst.

You are the near perfect example of hypocrisy, logical inconsistency and
cognitive dissonance. Many fanatical vegans will tell you it is all 3
when you keep pets for your own personal gratification.

Roger

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Mar 13, 2021, 4:17:58 PM3/13/21

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:11:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>For people who just want to listen and not go through the faff of 3rd
>party programs or hardware
>
>this is stripped from my updated media server code but you can work out
>what's up....
>

>"BBC - Radio 4"=>"http://stream.live.vc.bbcmedia.co.uk/bbc_radio_fourfm",

I've tried only this URL; it's MP3 at 128 kbps, not the higher
quality AAC at 320 kbps. I presume that the same applies to all
the BBC URLs.
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Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Mar 14, 2021, 4:08:54 AM3/14/21

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So on those where the international feed is different from the UK what is
the difference content wise? Also why is it every few years or sooner quite
often radio services feel the need to alter their streaming addresses? Is
there some new tech they want to take advantage of? Its going to be a pain
till all the aggregators catch up particularly with the bbc ones.
Also somebody at tune in wants to grow some balls and challenge the ruling
on paying a licence for stations they have links to outside the UK, since if
you follow that logic through and there are several aggregators showing the
same station the record industry would get several payments for the same
station, but instead Tune In hands elected to pull he links in the uk, which
stopws you playing the stations, which I'm sure was not the real intention
as media companies want to plug their content surely?
Brian

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Andy Burns

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Mar 14, 2021, 4:13:17 AM3/14/21

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Brian Gaff wrote:

> So on those where the international feed is different from the UK what is
> the difference content wise?

possibly certain content will be disallowed (e.g sporting events where
they only have uk broadcast rights) and perhaps bitrate is lower for
listeners outside the uk?

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Mar 14, 2021, 4:14:18 AM3/14/21

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Is this what the little cryptic messages are on the streams apparently
randomly at the moment?

Brian

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Mar 14, 2021, 4:15:52 AM3/14/21

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I do hope it does not affect local radio since a lot of local bbc stations
late night actively encourage listeners who used to live there who are
abroad to call in.

Brian

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Mar 14, 2021, 4:50:00 AM3/14/21

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In article <s2kgai$nef$1...@dont-email.me>,

Brian Gaff (Sofa) says...

> Its going to be a pain
> till all the aggregators catch up particularly with the bbc ones.
>

Airable has done so.
https://www.airablenow.com/airable/radio/

The 320k BBC stream now identifies as BBC Radio 3 HD

This on my Yamaha AVR which uses Airable after a change from VTuner with
a firmware update a couple of years ago

Internet radio lags behind FM by a few seconds. Switching from FM on the
last Pip of the time signal I catch the last couple of pips from the
net.

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Cursitor Doom

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Mar 14, 2021, 2:36:03 PM3/14/21

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:11:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

[...]

Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
listen to the shite the BBC has to offer, given that they'd have
literally tens of thousands of better alternatives at their
fingertips.
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Axel Berger

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Mar 14, 2021, 3:33:34 PM3/14/21

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Cursitor Doom wrote:
> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
> listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,

Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the BBC.
Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?

I used to listen on longwave after the demise of the British forces'
BFBS. You can't think what a great change podcasts and streeams have
made to my listening.

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The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 14, 2021, 3:40:20 PM3/14/21

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On 14/03/2021 19:35, Axel Berger wrote:
> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
>> listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,
>
> Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the BBC.
> Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?
>

I sympathise.
In continental Europe on FM the only classical music radio was
re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in Germany

> I used to listen on longwave after the demise of the British forces'
> BFBS. You can't think what a great change podcasts and streeams have
> made to my listening.
>
>

Indeed

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A. Dumas

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Mar 14, 2021, 3:46:33 PM3/14/21

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On 14-03-2021 20:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> In continental Europe on FM the only classical music radio was
> re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in Germany

?? Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France; those are the ones I know;
they all have at least one national radio station with classical music.

(And at least until recently all on FM, now maybe DAB+, I don't know.)

charles

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Mar 14, 2021, 5:01:24 PM3/14/21

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In article <s2lor1$5qt$1...@dont-email.me>,

The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 14/03/2021 19:35, Axel Berger wrote:
> > Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
> >> listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,
> >
> > Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the BBC.
> > Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?
> >
> I sympathise.
> In continental Europe on FM the only classical music radio was
> re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in Germany

France Musique was/is in Europe.

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Axel Berger

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Mar 14, 2021, 5:03:17 PM3/14/21

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"A. Dumas" wrote:
> one national radio station with classical music.

I neither need nor want music on radio, although I agree that if it
can't be avoided classic is better than most. BBC Radio 4 is all about
content delivered through the spoken word. Not everything is to my taste
or interest, bit enough to make hard sometinmes to keep up with
listening to all the podcasts and recordings coming in.

Bob Eager

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Mar 14, 2021, 8:23:56 PM3/14/21

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 21:00:38 +0000, charles wrote:

> In article <s2lor1$5qt$1...@dont-email.me>,
> The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 14/03/2021 19:35, Axel Berger wrote:
>> > Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
>> >> listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,
>> >
>> > Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the
>> > BBC.
>> > Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?
>> >
>> I sympathise.
>> In continental Europe on FM the only classical music radio was
>> re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in Germany
>
> France Musique was/is in Europe.

Listening to Framce Musique right now. Using http://radio.garden

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Cursitor Doom

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Mar 14, 2021, 8:52:09 PM3/14/21

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 19:40:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 14/03/2021 19:35, Axel Berger wrote:
>> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
>>> listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,
>>
>> Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the BBC.
>> Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?

That's fine if you want to listen to Globalist Left-wing propaganda
and nothing else. Personally I can't bear it.

>>
>I sympathise.
>In continental Europe on FM the only classical music radio was

>re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in German.

You must be joking. When I was living in Germany ISTR there was no
shortage of classical music on both TV and radio. De Radio Kultur did
a lot of it (that's the only station name I can remember as it was a
good few years ago).

>> I used to listen on longwave after the demise of the British forces'
>> BFBS. You can't think what a great change podcasts and streeams have
>> made to my listening.
>>
>>
>Indeed

Yes indeed, but *nothing* the BBC has to offer, I'm sorry to say.

A. Dumas

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Mar 14, 2021, 10:00:04 PM3/14/21

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Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>> France Musique was/is in Europe.
>
> Listening to Framce Musique right now. Using http://radio.garden

Dave Plowman (News)

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Mar 15, 2021, 6:49:51 AM3/15/21

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In article <604E656D...@Berger-Odenthal.De>,

Axel Berger <Sp...@Berger-Odenthal.De> wrote:
> Cursitor Doom wrote:
> > Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
> > listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,

> Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the BBC.
> Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?

It's Doom. He hates all good things British. Why he fled the country.

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MB

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Mar 15, 2021, 10:52:32 AM3/15/21

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On 15/03/2021 10:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> It's Doom. He hates all good things British. Why he fled the country.

Has he got ginger hair and living in a Californian mansion?

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 16, 2021, 2:14:23 AM3/16/21

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Couldn't find em driving through Germany: Netherlands, Belgium and
France, I did.

Mostly re broadcasts of BBC radio 3....

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tony sayer

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:12:48 AM3/21/21

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In article <s2lor1$5qt$1...@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher

<t...@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus

>On 14/03/2021 19:35, Axel Berger wrote:
>> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
>>> listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,
>>
>> Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the BBC.
>> Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?
>>
>I sympathise.
>In continental Europe on FM the only classical music radio was
>re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in Germany
>
>
>> I used to listen on longwave after the demise of the British forces'
>> BFBS. You can't think what a great change podcasts and streeams have
>> made to my listening.
>>
>>
>Indeed
>
>
>

Don't quite understand what your getting at here are you saying theres
no classic stations in Germany or ones worth listening to?

Still got Bayern Klassik?..

Https://www.br-klassik.de/programm/livestream/livestream-158.html

Let alone the excellent Czech D-Dur service from Prague:)

https://www.mujrozhlas.cz/zive/d-dur?autopla

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Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 21, 2021, 10:44:23 AM3/21/21

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On 21/03/2021 14:02, tony sayer wrote:
> In article <s2lor1$5qt$1...@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>> On 14/03/2021 19:35, Axel Berger wrote:
>>> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still want to
>>>> listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,
>>>
>>> Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for the BBC.
>>> Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even comparable to them?
>>>
>> I sympathise.
>> In continental Europe on FM the only classical music radio was
>> re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in Germany
>>
>>
>>> I used to listen on longwave after the demise of the British forces'
>>> BFBS. You can't think what a great change podcasts and streeams have
>>> made to my listening.
>>>
>>>
>> Indeed
>>
>>
>>
>
> Don't quite understand what your getting at here are you saying theres
> no classic stations in Germany or ones worth listening to?
>

No, I am saying that I found none on FM radio while driving from
Dunquerque to Koblenz..after Aachen.

> Still got Bayern Klassik?..
>
> Https://www.br-klassik.de/programm/livestream/livestream-158.html
>
> Let alone the excellent Czech D-Dur service from Prague:)
>
> https://www.mujrozhlas.cz/zive/d-dur?autopla
>

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Axel Berger

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Mar 21, 2021, 8:31:59 PM3/21/21

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tony sayer wrote:
> Don't quite understand what your getting at here are you saying theres
> no classic stations in Germany or ones worth listening to?

Not sure who "you" is in your answer. In this thread I'm exclusively
speaking about radio, i.e. the spoken word, while several others are
going on about music.

Music, specifically classic music is by definition old and can come from
anywhere like a deceased relative's record collection. Radio is valuable
for its currently relevant content and must be received now. That's
where differences in quality come in. Anyone can put on records.

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 22, 2021, 3:01:01 AM3/22/21

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On 22/03/2021 00:33, Axel Berger wrote:
> tony sayer wrote:
>> Don't quite understand what your getting at here are you saying theres
>> no classic stations in Germany or ones worth listening to?
>
> Not sure who "you" is in your answer. In this thread I'm exclusively
> speaking about radio, i.e. the spoken word, while several others are
> going on about music.
>

radio does not mean, and never has meant 'the spoken word'. Especially
before the advent of recording

> Music, specifically classic music is by definition old

No, it is still being written today, mainly for film scores its true,
but it is being written..classical music is scored music for an
ensemble, with an conductor and may instruments..

and can come from
> anywhere like a deceased relative's record collection. Radio is valuable
> for its currently relevant content and must be received now. That's
> where differences in quality come in. Anyone can put on records.
>
>

And anyone can tell lies over the air as well.

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#Paul

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Mar 22, 2021, 10:32:07 PM3/22/21

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Axel Berger <Sp...@berger-odenthal.de> wrote:
> Not sure who "you" is in your answer. In this thread I'm exclusively
> speaking about radio, i.e. the spoken word, while several others are
> going on about music.

I don't know about usage in Germany, but in (IME) in
the UK, Australia, and NZ "radio" might mean any kind
of radio broadcast of audio, whether of speech, music,
weird experimental sound sculptures, etc; or combinations
thereof.

#Paul

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 23, 2021, 5:04:20 AM3/23/21

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Radio (or wireless!) in the UK effectively means 'sound transmission by
radio waves'
If it's speech, it's colloquially known as 'talk radio'. Sometimes.

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Martin Gregorie

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:05:03 AM3/23/21

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I think he means speech radio, i.e. BBC Radio 4 in the UK, WOR in New
York City and 2YA in NZ.

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Martin Gregorie

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Mar 23, 2021, 8:12:14 AM3/23/21

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We need a better description than 'talk radio': there is far too much
crap and assorted political raving around to lump it all together under
that the same heading as Radio 4 or WOR.

At least when one of the political ravers is called a 'shock jock' you
know what to expect.

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 23, 2021, 9:10:41 AM3/23/21

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On 23/03/2021 12:12, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:04:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 22/03/2021 20:15, #Paul wrote:
>>> Axel Berger <Sp...@berger-odenthal.de> wrote:
>>>> Not sure who "you" is in your answer. In this thread I'm exclusively
>>>> speaking about radio, i.e. the spoken word, while several others are
>>>> going on about music.
>>>
>>> I don't know about usage in Germany, but in (IME) in the UK, Australia,
>>> and NZ "radio" might mean any kind of radio broadcast of audio, whether
>>> of speech, music, weird experimental sound sculptures, etc; or
>>> combinations thereof.
>>>
>>> #Paul
>>>
>> Radio (or wireless!) in the UK effectively means 'sound transmission by
>> radio waves'
>> If it's speech, it's colloquially known as 'talk radio'. Sometimes.
>
> We need a better description than 'talk radio': there is far too much
> crap and assorted political raving around to lump it all together under
> that the same heading as Radio 4 or WOR.

Indeed. Radio 4 is definitely far too much crap and assorted political
raving...

>
> At least when one of the political ravers is called a 'shock jock' you
> know what to expect.
>
>

Indeed. Instead if being called an 'expert' or a 'political commentator'

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Mar 23, 2021, 9:45:21 AM3/23/21

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#Paul wrote:
> but in (IME) in
> the UK, Australia, and NZ "radio" might mean any kind
> of radio broadcast of audio, whether of speech, music,
> weird experimental sound sculptures, etc; or combinations
> thereof.

Same here of course. But this thread began with the topic of quality at
the top. Of course most stations and all the local ones offer little
more than a sound background fpr the advertisements. But BBC, especially
Radio 4 and to a far lesser degree some German programs are different.

Stephen Pelc

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Mar 23, 2021, 11:13:03 AM3/23/21

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 01:33:11 +0100, Axel Berger
<Sp...@Berger-Odenthal.De> wrote:

> specifically classic music is by definition old

Surely not true since the development of electric music.

When I listen to a Philip Glass piano piece, I'm listening to
classical music IMHO.

In the UK, the principal supporter of classical composers
for a while was the Grateful Dead.

Stephen

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Martin Gregorie

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Mar 23, 2021, 12:32:05 PM3/23/21

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On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:12:59 +0000, Stephen Pelc wrote:

> When I listen to a Philip Glass piano piece, I'm listening to classical
> music IMHO.
>

One of the best orchestral concerts I've been to was at Cambridge Corn
Exchange in 2000, when the Britten Sinfonia played a concert of pieces by
John Adams and Frank Zappa.

Definitely a good fit in the Contemporary Classical category.

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 23, 2021, 1:03:17 PM3/23/21

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On 23/03/2021 13:46, Axel Berger wrote:
> #Paul wrote:
>> but in (IME) in
>> the UK, Australia, and NZ "radio" might mean any kind
>> of radio broadcast of audio, whether of speech, music,
>> weird experimental sound sculptures, etc; or combinations
>> thereof.
>
> Same here of course. But this thread began with the topic of quality at
> the top. Of course most stations and all the local ones offer little
> more than a sound background fpr the advertisements. But BBC, especially
> Radio 4 and to a far lesser degree some German programs are different.
>
>

I would say the reverse. there is far less advertising on radio than on
television, and the BBC advertises more than anyone. Its just paid for
by the EU and by the license fee payer, and consists of wall to wall
progressive left Marxist and woke propaganda

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Charlie Gibbs

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Mar 23, 2021, 2:36:12 PM3/23/21

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On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <mar...@mydomain.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:12:59 +0000, Stephen Pelc wrote:
>
>> When I listen to a Philip Glass piano piece, I'm listening to classical
>> music IMHO.
>
> One of the best orchestral concerts I've been to was at Cambridge Corn
> Exchange in 2000, when the Britten Sinfonia played a concert of pieces by
> John Adams and Frank Zappa.
>
> Definitely a good fit in the Contemporary Classical category.

Billy Joel's album _Fantasies & Delusions_ is a collection of
classical compositions for solo piano. It was released on the
Sony Classical label. A nice touch was the way the album cover
adopted the look of the sheet music publications of G. Schirmer, Inc.

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Rink

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Op 21-3-2021 om 15:44 schreef The Natural Philosopher:

> On 21/03/2021 14:02, tony sayer wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>>> On 14/03/2021 19:35, Axel Berger wrote:
>>>> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>> Hard to believe anyone with an internet radio would still
>>>>> want to listen to the shite the BBC has to offer,
>>>>
>>>> Come to Germany and you'll see how enormously grateful I am for
>>>> the BBC. Whatever do you have in mind, that could be even
>>>> comparable to them?
>>>>
>>> I sympathise. In continental Europe on FM the only classical
>>> music radio was re-broadcasts for Radio 3 concerts and nothing in
>>> Germany
>>

>> Don't quite understand what your getting at here are you saying
>> theres no classic stations in Germany or ones worth listening to?
>>
> No, I am saying that I found none on FM radio while driving from
> Dunquerque to Koblenz..after Aachen.

In every country you were is at least one classical music station on FM.

France:
France Musique (already mentioned)

Belgium (French speaking):
RTBF Musiq 3:
<https://www.rtbf.be/musiq3/>
RTBF listening does not work on my PC, this one works:
<https://belgiefm.com/musiq3>

Belgium (Dutch speaking):
VRT Klara
<https://klara.be/>
<https://radioplus.be/#/klara/herbeluister>

Netherlands:
NPO Radio 4
<https://www.nporadio4.nl/>
<https://www.nporadio4.nl/online-radio-luisteren/gedraaid>
I hate it when the music is played in a website and not in a separate TAB.

Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen (Aachen - Köln - Bonn, etc)
WDR 3
<https://www1.wdr.de/radio/wdr3/index.html>
<https://www1.wdr.de/radio/player/radioplayer106~_layout-popupVersion.html>

Germany, Rheinland-Pfalz (Koblenz, etc)
SWR 2 (SWR = Südwest Rundfunk)
<https://www.swr.de/swr2/musik-klassik/index.html>
listening in website, or here:
<https://onlineradiobox.com/de/swr2live/?cs=de.swr2live&played=1&lang=nl>

Germany, Nationwide (DAB+, but not everywhere on FM)
Deutschlandfunk Kultur (not 24h classical music)
<https://www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/>
<https://www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/unsere-live-streams.2428.de.html>
FM-Frequencies:
<https://www.deutschlandradio.de/index.media.b32f6682d549e179b4d18fb8acc14753.pdf>

Germany, Nationwide (DAB+, but not everywhere on FM)
Klassik Radio (commercial)
<https://www.klassikradio.de/>
<https://www.klassikradio.de/#>
Not on FM in Nordrhein-Westfalen and Rheinland-Pfalz

Have fun!
Rink

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Hello

Would anyone know if there was a URL for beyond radio for the north west of the uk??

regards

Richard

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On 07/11/2022 11:52, Bay Leadership Academy wrote:

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>
> Hello
>
> Would anyone know if there was a URL for beyond radio for the north west of the uk??
>
> regards

https://www.beyondradio.co.uk/

John Rumm

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On 07/11/2022 11:52, Bay Leadership Academy wrote:

> Hello
>
> Would anyone know if there was a URL for beyond radio for the north west of the uk??

If you want the actual feed URLs, then this site is handy:

http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=Beyond+Radio+%5BBYD%5D

Looks like:

http://stream.beyondradio.co.uk:8000/med

will get you a 128Kbps mp3 stream

and

http://stream.beyondradio.co.uk:8000/high

A 192Kbps AAC one.

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Thanks, will give these a try :-)

John Rumm

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On 07/11/2022 13:57, Bay Leadership Academy wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 1:36:13 PM UTC, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 07/11/2022 11:52, Bay Leadership Academy wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Would anyone know if there was a URL for beyond radio for the north west of the uk??
>> If you want the actual feed URLs, then this site is handy:
>>
>> http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=Beyond+Radio+%5BBYD%5D
>>
>> Looks like:
>>
>> http://stream.beyondradio.co.uk:8000/med
>>
>> will get you a 128Kbps mp3 stream
>>
>> and
>>
>> http://stream.beyondradio.co.uk:8000/high
>>
>> A 192Kbps AAC one.

> Thanks, will give these a try :-)

If using on a windows PC, then you can open either of those addresses in
VLC media player as a network stream.

On Linux, you can add MPD and MPC (Music Player Demon, and Music Player
Controller), and do:

mpc add http://stream.beyondradio.co.uk:8000/high
mpc play